System is acting very strange - What do I do?

P

PCR

Re: Anger Management!

"BinaryConverted"
<chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in
message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com
| Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore.
|
| That one resolved itself.

OK. Good enough.

| But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows.
| Is there any way at all?

There is no normal way for you to get to BIOS once in Windows. Terhune
might know an abnormal one. Here is what I normally post for getting
into BIOS...

You must press a key at boot to enter BIOS Setup. If you don't know the
key to press, try "Esc" at the manufacturer's logo. Then, the key to
press to enter BIOS setup will show up. Quickly press it. For my
Compaq Presario 7470, it is F10.

In BIOS, use TAB & the arrow keys to navigate, & ENTER to select. (Well,
there may be a legend showing your keys are different.)

While in there, you'd better go through all the menus & jot down the
settings. If they are not set to defaults, and somehow, someday, they
are cleared, all these settings may need to be input again.

......Quote of Candlin about...............
......keystrokes to get to BIOS Setup....
Usually DEL, but F1, F2, F10 are also common.

Other keystrokes which might work are:

AMI BIOS: Del key during the POST
DTK BIOS: Esc key during the POST
Award BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc
Misc BIOS: Ctrl-Esc
Phoenix BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc or Ctrl-Alt-S
IBM PS/2 BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Ins after Ctrl-Alt-Del

If all else fails, shut down, power off, unplug the keyboard,
and power up again, as some older systems will default
to the CMOS Setup if a keyboard is not found.
.......End of Quote............................

And here are WEB sites I've collected here at this NG, but haven't
recently clicked...

http://sysopt.earthweb.com/biosbmc.html BIOS beeps
http://www.amptron.com/html/bios.beepcodes.html
http://www.comptechdoc.org/hardware/beepcodes/1.htm
http://www.computerhope.com/beep.htm
http://www.tcwo.com/support/new/beeps.htm BIOS beeps
http://www.bioscentral.com/ BIOS Central
http://www.extremetech.com/article/0,2299,s=1005&a=1614,00.asp
BIOS Info
http://www.itcp.net/~awsh/ BIOS & hardware Optimization Guide
ftp://ftp.heise.de/pub/ct/ctsi/ctbios15.zip ctbios Identify BIOS
http://www.cgsecurity.org/ BIOS manipulator, Password recoverer

| --
| A story of success always has a beginning.
|
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
|> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
|> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com
|> | "MEB spewed:
|> |
|> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you
|> |> as semi-intelligent,,,
|> |
|> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy
|> |
|> | "Well, let's review your history here...
|> |
|> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I
|> | was the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you
|> | didn't apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required ....
|> |
|> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group,
|> | we all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to
|> | understand and consider for your presentation... glad you picked
|> | up on SOME of that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture...
|> |
|> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in
|> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and
|> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities
|> | to understand...
|> |
|> | Shall I go through other of your posts here?????
|> |
|> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for
|> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem....
|> |
|> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to
|> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP,
|> | apply them." - MBE
|> | -----------------------------------------------------
|> |
|> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK?
|>
|> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup
|> Diskette...?...
|>
|> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from
|> "Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect
|> the diskette, put it in & turn on the computer.
|>
|> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing?
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
P

PCR

Re: Anger Management!

"BinaryConverted"
<chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in
message news:3F4B91F7-FD43-42AA-B8AC-4EE98556B8BD@microsoft.com
| Ooops...
|
| Yes, a laptop.

I see. Does it have a floppy drive? If you can boot a floppy, it might
prove you are not having a power problem. I've posted elsewhere on how
to get into BIOS. On my Compaq 7470, there is a square, blinking cursor
that jumps from the top left to the top right corners of the screen--
that is when to hit F10 to get into BIOS. But on laptops it may be
altogether different! Really, I think Brian A.'s instructions should
have gotten you there!

| --
| A story of success always has a beginning.
|
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
|> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
|> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com
|> | "MEB spewed:
|> |
|> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you
|> |> as semi-intelligent,,,
|> |
|> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy
|> |
|> | "Well, let's review your history here...
|> |
|> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I
|> | was the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you
|> | didn't apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required ....
|> |
|> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group,
|> | we all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to
|> | understand and consider for your presentation... glad you picked
|> | up on SOME of that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture...
|> |
|> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in
|> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and
|> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities
|> | to understand...
|> |
|> | Shall I go through other of your posts here?????
|> |
|> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for
|> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem....
|> |
|> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to
|> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP,
|> | apply them." - MBE
|> | -----------------------------------------------------
|> |
|> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK?
|>
|> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup
|> Diskette...?...
|>
|> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from
|> "Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect
|> the diskette, put it in & turn on the computer.
|>
|> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing?
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
J

John

Re: Anger Management!

Well, it doesn't look like you have being top-poster.

Such a 'computer techinician' should know how to diagnose really REALLY old
computers, even with Windows Vista already released.

So I can tell you what - Next time you post in another topic, wax lyrical
about the title of the post or the skill of the user before your big mouth
opens.

Go back to your graveyard.
--
A story of success always has a beginning.


"98 Guy" wrote:

> BinaryConverted wrote:
>
> > You really need a kick in the ass 98 Guy.

>
> You need a kick in the ass for being a top-poster.
>
 
J

John

Re: Anger Management!

I need to access it from Windows because F10 won't start the BIOS/CMOS setup
program.

And now, everything causes a blank screen, even at startup.
--
A story of success always has a beginning.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would you want
> to?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "BinaryConverted"
> <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in
> message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com...
> > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore.
> >
> > That one resolved itself.
> >
> > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows.
> > Is there any way at all?
> > --
> > A story of success always has a beginning.
> >
> >
> > "PCR" wrote:
> >
> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com
> >> | "MEB spewed:
> >> |
> >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you
> >> |> as semi-intelligent,,,
> >> |
> >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy
> >> |
> >> | "Well, let's review your history here...
> >> |
> >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I was
> >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't
> >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required ....
> >> |
> >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, we
> >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand and
> >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of
> >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture...
> >> |
> >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in
> >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and
> >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities
> >> | to understand...
> >> |
> >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here?????
> >> |
> >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for
> >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem....
> >> |
> >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to
> >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, apply
> >> | them." - MBE -----------------------------------------------------
> >> |
> >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK?
> >>
> >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup
> >> Diskette...?...
> >>
> >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control
> >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the
> >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer.
> >>
> >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thanks or Good Luck,
> >> There may be humor in this post, and,
> >> Naturally, you will not sue,
> >> Should things get worse after this,
> >> PCR
> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Re: Anger Management!

BinaryConverted converted to John... What's next?

Seriously, F10 isn't he only way to get into BIOS. In fact, AFAIK, it's only
used on older Compaqs. Have we already gone through all this with you
recently, or was that someone else? It's a laptop? You have the make/model?
Have we been thorough all this already? (Have pity on an old man with a
brain like Swiss cheese.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote in
message news:64E8F4FE-6707-4415-8037-B27F2D78688F@microsoft.com...
>I need to access it from Windows because F10 won't start the BIOS/CMOS
>setup
> program.
>
> And now, everything causes a blank screen, even at startup.
> --
> A story of success always has a beginning.
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would you
>> want
>> to?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "BinaryConverted"
>> <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in
>> message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com...
>> > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore.
>> >
>> > That one resolved itself.
>> >
>> > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows.
>> > Is there any way at all?
>> > --
>> > A story of success always has a beginning.
>> >
>> >
>> > "PCR" wrote:
>> >
>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com
>> >> | "MEB spewed:
>> >> |
>> >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you
>> >> |> as semi-intelligent,,,
>> >> |
>> >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy
>> >> |
>> >> | "Well, let's review your history here...
>> >> |
>> >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I was
>> >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't
>> >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required ....
>> >> |
>> >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group,
>> >> we
>> >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand
>> >> and
>> >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of
>> >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture...
>> >> |
>> >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in
>> >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and
>> >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities
>> >> | to understand...
>> >> |
>> >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here?????
>> >> |
>> >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for
>> >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem....
>> >> |
>> >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to
>> >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP,
>> >> apply
>> >> | them." - MBE -----------------------------------------------------
>> >> |
>> >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK?
>> >>
>> >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup
>> >> Diskette...?...
>> >>
>> >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control
>> >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the
>> >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer.
>> >>
>> >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Thanks or Good Luck,
>> >> There may be humor in this post, and,
>> >> Naturally, you will not sue,
>> >> Should things get worse after this,
>> >> PCR
>> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>
 
B

Brian A.

"John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C1702973-B90A-4791-88B6-2DC257E2676F@microsoft.com...
> Brian A and Gary, I could not start the Compaq Utilities. The computer will
> constantly beep and I then have to shut it down.
>
> What cursor? Mouse or MS-DOS cursor (blinking cursor)?
> ---------
> "Brian A." wrote:
>
>> From the manual:
>> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/s...284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf
>> To access Computer Setup (or Diagnostics) on the Compaq Utilities menu, follow
>> these
>> steps:
>> 1. Restart the computer by clicking Shut Down on the Windows Start menu. (Or turn
>> on
>> power.)
>> 2. Press F10 as soon as the cursor appears in the upper-right corner of the
>> screen.
>>
>> IMPORTANT: The cursor is displayed on the screen for about two seconds. If you do
>> not
>> press F10 during this time, you must restart the computer and try again.

<snipped>

The cursor they mention appears in the Upper Right-hand Corner.
Do you see that cursor or only ones on the left?

From reading the manual, it's mentioned that:
<quote>
The Compaq Utilities menu will appear immediately after the computer has been turned
on and the Power-On Self-Test (POST) has been completed.
</quote>

Have you tried a continual tapping of F10 from the moment you power up?

Also the manual states:
<quote>
You can also view most of the same information in Compaq Diagnostics for Windows in
the Control Panel.
</quote>

If they are not available in CP the only way I find to enter "Setup" aka BIOS is
with F10.


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
 
B

Brian A.

Re: Anger Management!

I've supplied a link earlier to the manual for his laptop:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/s...284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf

From all I've read on it I believe it had Win95 originally installed, I may be in
err though and F10 is the only key mentioned.

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375


"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:u$k8WE64HHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> BinaryConverted converted to John... What's next?
>
> Seriously, F10 isn't he only way to get into BIOS. In fact, AFAIK, it's only used
> on older Compaqs. Have we already gone through all this with you recently, or was
> that someone else? It's a laptop? You have the make/model? Have we been thorough
> all this already? (Have pity on an old man with a brain like Swiss cheese.)
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote in message
> news:64E8F4FE-6707-4415-8037-B27F2D78688F@microsoft.com...
>>I need to access it from Windows because F10 won't start the BIOS/CMOS setup
>> program.
>>
>> And now, everything causes a blank screen, even at startup.
>> --
>> A story of success always has a beginning.
>>
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>>
>>> Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would you want
>>> to?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "BinaryConverted"
>>> <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in
>>> message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com...
>>> > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore.
>>> >
>>> > That one resolved itself.
>>> >
>>> > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows.
>>> > Is there any way at all?
>>> > --
>>> > A story of success always has a beginning.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "PCR" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com
>>> >> | "MEB spewed:
>>> >> |
>>> >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you
>>> >> |> as semi-intelligent,,,
>>> >> |
>>> >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy
>>> >> |
>>> >> | "Well, let's review your history here...
>>> >> |
>>> >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I was
>>> >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't
>>> >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required ....
>>> >> |
>>> >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, we
>>> >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand and
>>> >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of
>>> >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture...
>>> >> |
>>> >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in
>>> >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and
>>> >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities
>>> >> | to understand...
>>> >> |
>>> >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here?????
>>> >> |
>>> >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for
>>> >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem....
>>> >> |
>>> >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to
>>> >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, apply
>>> >> | them." - MBE -----------------------------------------------------
>>> >> |
>>> >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK?
>>> >>
>>> >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup
>>> >> Diskette...?...
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control
>>> >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the
>>> >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer.
>>> >>
>>> >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing?
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Thanks or Good Luck,
>>> >> There may be humor in this post, and,
>>> >> Naturally, you will not sue,
>>> >> Should things get worse after this,
>>> >> PCR
>>> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>
>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Re: Anger Management!

Yeah, I remember now. Has anyone suggested removing and replacing the mobo
battery? Or is that just too hard to deal with on that machine? Wonder if
the manual mentions it...

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
news:O$wPa664HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> I've supplied a link earlier to the manual for his laptop:
> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/s...284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf
>
> From all I've read on it I believe it had Win95 originally installed, I
> may be in err though and F10 is the only key mentioned.
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:u$k8WE64HHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> BinaryConverted converted to John... What's next?
>>
>> Seriously, F10 isn't he only way to get into BIOS. In fact, AFAIK, it's
>> only used on older Compaqs. Have we already gone through all this with
>> you recently, or was that someone else? It's a laptop? You have the
>> make/model? Have we been thorough all this already? (Have pity on an old
>> man with a brain like Swiss cheese.)
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote
>> in message news:64E8F4FE-6707-4415-8037-B27F2D78688F@microsoft.com...
>>>I need to access it from Windows because F10 won't start the BIOS/CMOS
>>>setup
>>> program.
>>>
>>> And now, everything causes a blank screen, even at startup.
>>> --
>>> A story of success always has a beginning.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would you
>>>> want
>>>> to?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>
>>>> "BinaryConverted"
>>>> <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in
>>>> message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com...
>>>> > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore.
>>>> >
>>>> > That one resolved itself.
>>>> >
>>>> > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows.
>>>> > Is there any way at all?
>>>> > --
>>>> > A story of success always has a beginning.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > "PCR" wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com
>>>> >> | "MEB spewed:
>>>> >> |
>>>> >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you
>>>> >> |> as semi-intelligent,,,
>>>> >> |
>>>> >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy
>>>> >> |
>>>> >> | "Well, let's review your history here...
>>>> >> |
>>>> >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I
>>>> >> was
>>>> >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't
>>>> >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required ....
>>>> >> |
>>>> >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group,
>>>> >> we
>>>> >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand
>>>> >> and
>>>> >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of
>>>> >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture...
>>>> >> |
>>>> >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but
>>>> >> in
>>>> >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and
>>>> >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your
>>>> >> abilities
>>>> >> | to understand...
>>>> >> |
>>>> >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here?????
>>>> >> |
>>>> >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for
>>>> >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem....
>>>> >> |
>>>> >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need
>>>> >> to
>>>> >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP,
>>>> >> apply
>>>> >> | them." - MBE -----------------------------------------------------
>>>> >> |
>>>> >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup
>>>> >> Diskette...?...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from
>>>> >> "Control
>>>> >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the
>>>> >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Thanks or Good Luck,
>>>> >> There may be humor in this post, and,
>>>> >> Naturally, you will not sue,
>>>> >> Should things get worse after this,
>>>> >> PCR
>>>> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

>>
>>

>
 
M

MEB

Re: Anger Management!

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:e6PaaG74HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| Yeah, I remember now. Has anyone suggested removing and replacing the mobo
| battery? Or is that just too hard to deal with on that machine? Wonder if
| the manual mentions it...
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com


Batteries? Yep first response. Apparently too difficult [CMOS/BIOS]. And
the main battery is dead...

From: "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
References: <FA0DFC70-F25E-4665-A5C9-319EEF1A5B5E@microsoft.com>

Message-ID: <u#gdvR4xHHA.4392@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________

|
| "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
| news:O$wPa664HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > I've supplied a link earlier to the manual for his laptop:
| >
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/s...284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf
| >
| > From all I've read on it I believe it had Win95 originally installed, I
| > may be in err though and F10 is the only key mentioned.
| >
| > --
| >
| > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
| > Conflicts start where information lacks.
| > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
| >
| > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
| >
| >
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > news:u$k8WE64HHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| >> BinaryConverted converted to John... What's next?
| >>
| >> Seriously, F10 isn't he only way to get into BIOS. In fact, AFAIK, it's
| >> only used on older Compaqs. Have we already gone through all this with
| >> you recently, or was that someone else? It's a laptop? You have the
| >> make/model? Have we been thorough all this already? (Have pity on an
old
| >> man with a brain like Swiss cheese.)
| >>
| >> --
| >> Gary S. Terhune
| >> MS-MVP Shell/User
| >> www.grystmill.com
| >>
| >> "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress>
wrote
| >> in message news:64E8F4FE-6707-4415-8037-B27F2D78688F@microsoft.com...
| >>>I need to access it from Windows because F10 won't start the BIOS/CMOS
| >>>setup
| >>> program.
| >>>
| >>> And now, everything causes a blank screen, even at startup.
| >>> --
| >>> A story of success always has a beginning.
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
| >>>
| >>>> Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would
you
| >>>> want
| >>>> to?
| >>>>
| >>>> --
| >>>> Gary S. Terhune
| >>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
| >>>> www.grystmill.com
| >>>>
| >>>> "BinaryConverted"
| >>>> <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote
in
| >>>> message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com...
| >>>> > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore.
| >>>> >
| >>>> > That one resolved itself.
| >>>> >
| >>>> > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows.
| >>>> > Is there any way at all?
| >>>> > --
| >>>> > A story of success always has a beginning.
| >>>> >
| >>>> >
| >>>> > "PCR" wrote:
| >>>> >
| >>>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| >>>> >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com
| >>>> >> | "MEB spewed:
| >>>> >> |
| >>>> >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud
you
| >>>> >> |> as semi-intelligent,,,
| >>>> >> |
| >>>> >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy
| >>>> >> |
| >>>> >> | "Well, let's review your history here...
| >>>> >> |
| >>>> >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I
| >>>> >> was
| >>>> >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you
didn't
| >>>> >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required ....
| >>>> >> |
| >>>> >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this
group,
| >>>> >> we
| >>>> >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to
understand
| >>>> >> and
| >>>> >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of
| >>>> >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture...
| >>>> >> |
| >>>> >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but
| >>>> >> in
| >>>> >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and
| >>>> >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your
| >>>> >> abilities
| >>>> >> | to understand...
| >>>> >> |
| >>>> >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here?????
| >>>> >> |
| >>>> >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for
| >>>> >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem....
| >>>> >> |
| >>>> >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need
| >>>> >> to
| >>>> >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP,
| >>>> >> apply
| >>>> >> | them." -
MBE -----------------------------------------------------
| >>>> >> |
| >>>> >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK?
| >>>> >>
| >>>> >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a
Startup
| >>>> >> Diskette...?...
| >>>> >>
| >>>> >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from
| >>>> >> "Control
| >>>> >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the
| >>>> >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer.
| >>>> >>
| >>>> >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing?
| >>>> >>
| >>>> >> --
| >>>> >> Thanks or Good Luck,
| >>>> >> There may be humor in this post, and,
| >>>> >> Naturally, you will not sue,
| >>>> >> Should things get worse after this,
| >>>> >> PCR
| >>>> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net
| >>>> >>
| >>>> >>
| >>>> >>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>
| >>
| >
|
|
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Re: Anger Management!

Nope, no mention, and no schematics... Well, F10 ought to do it, and
repeatedly tapping the key as soon as the machine is turned on is the way to
do it (as you suggested elsewhere. Since mo mention is made of it, I presume
there's nothing like an F-Lock key (may they burn in hell for that one!)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:e6PaaG74HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Yeah, I remember now. Has anyone suggested removing and replacing the mobo
> battery? Or is that just too hard to deal with on that machine? Wonder if
> the manual mentions it...
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> news:O$wPa664HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> I've supplied a link earlier to the manual for his laptop:
>> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/s...284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf
>>
>> From all I've read on it I believe it had Win95 originally installed, I
>> may be in err though and F10 is the only key mentioned.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>>
>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:u$k8WE64HHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> BinaryConverted converted to John... What's next?
>>>
>>> Seriously, F10 isn't he only way to get into BIOS. In fact, AFAIK, it's
>>> only used on older Compaqs. Have we already gone through all this with
>>> you recently, or was that someone else? It's a laptop? You have the
>>> make/model? Have we been thorough all this already? (Have pity on an old
>>> man with a brain like Swiss cheese.)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote
>>> in message news:64E8F4FE-6707-4415-8037-B27F2D78688F@microsoft.com...
>>>>I need to access it from Windows because F10 won't start the BIOS/CMOS
>>>>setup
>>>> program.
>>>>
>>>> And now, everything causes a blank screen, even at startup.
>>>> --
>>>> A story of success always has a beginning.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would you
>>>>> want
>>>>> to?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "BinaryConverted"
>>>>> <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in
>>>>> message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com...
>>>>> > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That one resolved itself.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows.
>>>>> > Is there any way at all?
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > A story of success always has a beginning.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "PCR" wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com
>>>>> >> | "MEB spewed:
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you
>>>>> >> |> as semi-intelligent,,,
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | "Well, let's review your history here...
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I
>>>>> >> was
>>>>> >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't
>>>>> >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required ....
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this
>>>>> >> group, we
>>>>> >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand
>>>>> >> and
>>>>> >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of
>>>>> >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture...
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but
>>>>> >> in
>>>>> >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and
>>>>> >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your
>>>>> >> abilities
>>>>> >> | to understand...
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here?????
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for
>>>>> >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem....
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need
>>>>> >> to
>>>>> >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP,
>>>>> >> apply
>>>>> >> | them." -
>>>>> >> MBE -----------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a
>>>>> >> Startup
>>>>> >> Diskette...?...
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from
>>>>> >> "Control
>>>>> >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the
>>>>> >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> Thanks or Good Luck,
>>>>> >> There may be humor in this post, and,
>>>>> >> Naturally, you will not sue,
>>>>> >> Should things get worse after this,
>>>>> >> PCR
>>>>> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Re: Anger Management!

Hmmm... Maybe just reach in there and pull on something, anything... JUST
KIDDING! Though I'd be tempted if it were mine...

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O$I9AM74HHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:e6PaaG74HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | Yeah, I remember now. Has anyone suggested removing and replacing the
> mobo
> | battery? Or is that just too hard to deal with on that machine? Wonder
> if
> | the manual mentions it...
> |
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
>
>
> Batteries? Yep first response. Apparently too difficult [CMOS/BIOS]. And
> the main battery is dead...
>
> From: "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
> References: <FA0DFC70-F25E-4665-A5C9-319EEF1A5B5E@microsoft.com>
>
> Message-ID: <u#gdvR4xHHA.4392@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> ________
>
> |
> | "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> | news:O$wPa664HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > I've supplied a link earlier to the manual for his laptop:
> | >
> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/s...284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf
> | >
> | > From all I've read on it I believe it had Win95 originally installed,
> I
> | > may be in err though and F10 is the only key mentioned.
> | >
> | > --
> | >
> | > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> | > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> | >
> | > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> | > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> | >
> | >
> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > news:u$k8WE64HHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | >> BinaryConverted converted to John... What's next?
> | >>
> | >> Seriously, F10 isn't he only way to get into BIOS. In fact, AFAIK,
> it's
> | >> only used on older Compaqs. Have we already gone through all this
> with
> | >> you recently, or was that someone else? It's a laptop? You have the
> | >> make/model? Have we been thorough all this already? (Have pity on an
> old
> | >> man with a brain like Swiss cheese.)
> | >>
> | >> --
> | >> Gary S. Terhune
> | >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> | >> www.grystmill.com
> | >>
> | >> "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress>
> wrote
> | >> in message news:64E8F4FE-6707-4415-8037-B27F2D78688F@microsoft.com...
> | >>>I need to access it from Windows because F10 won't start the
> BIOS/CMOS
> | >>>setup
> | >>> program.
> | >>>
> | >>> And now, everything causes a blank screen, even at startup.
> | >>> --
> | >>> A story of success always has a beginning.
> | >>>
> | >>>
> | >>> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> | >>>
> | >>>> Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would
> you
> | >>>> want
> | >>>> to?
> | >>>>
> | >>>> --
> | >>>> Gary S. Terhune
> | >>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
> | >>>> www.grystmill.com
> | >>>>
> | >>>> "BinaryConverted"
> | >>>> <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote
> in
> | >>>> message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com...
> | >>>> > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore.
> | >>>> >
> | >>>> > That one resolved itself.
> | >>>> >
> | >>>> > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows.
> | >>>> > Is there any way at all?
> | >>>> > --
> | >>>> > A story of success always has a beginning.
> | >>>> >
> | >>>> >
> | >>>> > "PCR" wrote:
> | >>>> >
> | >>>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | >>>> >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com
> | >>>> >> | "MEB spewed:
> | >>>> >> |
> | >>>> >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud
> you
> | >>>> >> |> as semi-intelligent,,,
> | >>>> >> |
> | >>>> >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy
> | >>>> >> |
> | >>>> >> | "Well, let's review your history here...
> | >>>> >> |
> | >>>> >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks,
> I
> | >>>> >> was
> | >>>> >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you
> didn't
> | >>>> >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required ....
> | >>>> >> |
> | >>>> >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this
> group,
> | >>>> >> we
> | >>>> >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to
> understand
> | >>>> >> and
> | >>>> >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME
> of
> | >>>> >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture...
> | >>>> >> |
> | >>>> >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we
> but
> | >>>> >> in
> | >>>> >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking
> and
> | >>>> >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your
> | >>>> >> abilities
> | >>>> >> | to understand...
> | >>>> >> |
> | >>>> >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here?????
> | >>>> >> |
> | >>>> >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for
> | >>>> >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem....
> | >>>> >> |
> | >>>> >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you
> need
> | >>>> >> to
> | >>>> >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand
> SRTSP,
> | >>>> >> apply
> | >>>> >> | them." -
> MBE -----------------------------------------------------
> | >>>> >> |
> | >>>> >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK?
> | >>>> >>
> | >>>> >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a
> Startup
> | >>>> >> Diskette...?...
> | >>>> >>
> | >>>> >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from
> | >>>> >> "Control
> | >>>> >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the
> | >>>> >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer.
> | >>>> >>
> | >>>> >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a
> listing?
> | >>>> >>
> | >>>> >> --
> | >>>> >> Thanks or Good Luck,
> | >>>> >> There may be humor in this post, and,
> | >>>> >> Naturally, you will not sue,
> | >>>> >> Should things get worse after this,
> | >>>> >> PCR
> | >>>> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | >>>> >>
> | >>>> >>
> | >>>> >>
> | >>>>
> | >>>>
> | >>>>
> | >>
> | >>
> | >
> |
> |
>
>
 
B

Brian A.

Re: Anger Management!

Perhaps another "Burn in hell" is warranted, from the manual:

Problem:
Every time the computer is turned on, the date and time have to be set.

Possible cause:
Real-time clock battery is at the end of its life.

Solution:
Call your Compaq authorized service provider to replace real-time clock battery.

On another note, they do have an Fn key that they use in combo with other keys and
at least one combo locks/unlocks the kb/mouse. Couldn't find anything I thought was
relevant to locking/unlocking F keys though.

I'm going to have another go-round to see if I can find info on the CMOS battery.

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375


"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:e6PaaG74HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Yeah, I remember now. Has anyone suggested removing and replacing the mobo battery?
> Or is that just too hard to deal with on that machine? Wonder if the manual
> mentions it...
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> news:O$wPa664HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> I've supplied a link earlier to the manual for his laptop:
>> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/s...284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf
>>
>> From all I've read on it I believe it had Win95 originally installed, I may be in
>> err though and F10 is the only key mentioned.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>>
>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:u$k8WE64HHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> BinaryConverted converted to John... What's next?
>>>
>>> Seriously, F10 isn't he only way to get into BIOS. In fact, AFAIK, it's only used
>>> on older Compaqs. Have we already gone through all this with you recently, or was
>>> that someone else? It's a laptop? You have the make/model? Have we been thorough
>>> all this already? (Have pity on an old man with a brain like Swiss cheese.)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote in
>>> message news:64E8F4FE-6707-4415-8037-B27F2D78688F@microsoft.com...
>>>>I need to access it from Windows because F10 won't start the BIOS/CMOS setup
>>>> program.
>>>>
>>>> And now, everything causes a blank screen, even at startup.
>>>> --
>>>> A story of success always has a beginning.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would you want
>>>>> to?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "BinaryConverted"
>>>>> <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in
>>>>> message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com...
>>>>> > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That one resolved itself.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows.
>>>>> > Is there any way at all?
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > A story of success always has a beginning.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "PCR" wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com
>>>>> >> | "MEB spewed:
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you
>>>>> >> |> as semi-intelligent,,,
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | "Well, let's review your history here...
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I was
>>>>> >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't
>>>>> >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required ....
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, we
>>>>> >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand and
>>>>> >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of
>>>>> >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture...
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in
>>>>> >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and
>>>>> >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities
>>>>> >> | to understand...
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here?????
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for
>>>>> >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem....
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to
>>>>> >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, apply
>>>>> >> | them." - MBE -----------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup
>>>>> >> Diskette...?...
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control
>>>>> >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the
>>>>> >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> Thanks or Good Luck,
>>>>> >> There may be humor in this post, and,
>>>>> >> Naturally, you will not sue,
>>>>> >> Should things get worse after this,
>>>>> >> PCR
>>>>> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>
 
B

Brian A.

Re: Anger Management!

HAH!!!! Found and now posted.
See 7.10 Lithium Real Time Clock Battery:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c00139858/c00139858.pdf

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375


"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:e6PaaG74HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Yeah, I remember now. Has anyone suggested removing and replacing the mobo battery?
> Or is that just too hard to deal with on that machine? Wonder if the manual
> mentions it...
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> news:O$wPa664HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> I've supplied a link earlier to the manual for his laptop:
>> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/s...284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf
>>
>> From all I've read on it I believe it had Win95 originally installed, I may be in
>> err though and F10 is the only key mentioned.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>>
>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:u$k8WE64HHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> BinaryConverted converted to John... What's next?
>>>
>>> Seriously, F10 isn't he only way to get into BIOS. In fact, AFAIK, it's only used
>>> on older Compaqs. Have we already gone through all this with you recently, or was
>>> that someone else? It's a laptop? You have the make/model? Have we been thorough
>>> all this already? (Have pity on an old man with a brain like Swiss cheese.)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote in
>>> message news:64E8F4FE-6707-4415-8037-B27F2D78688F@microsoft.com...
>>>>I need to access it from Windows because F10 won't start the BIOS/CMOS setup
>>>> program.
>>>>
>>>> And now, everything causes a blank screen, even at startup.
>>>> --
>>>> A story of success always has a beginning.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would you want
>>>>> to?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "BinaryConverted"
>>>>> <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in
>>>>> message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com...
>>>>> > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That one resolved itself.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows.
>>>>> > Is there any way at all?
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > A story of success always has a beginning.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "PCR" wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com
>>>>> >> | "MEB spewed:
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you
>>>>> >> |> as semi-intelligent,,,
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | "Well, let's review your history here...
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I was
>>>>> >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't
>>>>> >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required ....
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, we
>>>>> >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand and
>>>>> >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of
>>>>> >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture...
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in
>>>>> >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and
>>>>> >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities
>>>>> >> | to understand...
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here?????
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for
>>>>> >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem....
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to
>>>>> >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, apply
>>>>> >> | them." - MBE -----------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >> |
>>>>> >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup
>>>>> >> Diskette...?...
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control
>>>>> >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the
>>>>> >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> Thanks or Good Luck,
>>>>> >> There may be humor in this post, and,
>>>>> >> Naturally, you will not sue,
>>>>> >> Should things get worse after this,
>>>>> >> PCR
>>>>> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>
 
9

98 Guy

Re: Anger Management!

John wrote:

> So I can tell you what -


No, I'll tell you what.

Why don't you stop wasting space by posting unintelligible junk?
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Re: Anger Management!

Now, THAT'S what I call dedication!!! Bravo!

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
news:%23rsrkR94HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> HAH!!!! Found and now posted.
> See 7.10 Lithium Real Time Clock Battery:
> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c00139858/c00139858.pdf
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:e6PaaG74HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Yeah, I remember now. Has anyone suggested removing and replacing the
>> mobo battery? Or is that just too hard to deal with on that machine?
>> Wonder if the manual mentions it...
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
>> news:O$wPa664HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> I've supplied a link earlier to the manual for his laptop:
>>> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/s...284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf
>>>
>>> From all I've read on it I believe it had Win95 originally installed, I
>>> may be in err though and F10 is the only key mentioned.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>>> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>>>
>>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>> news:u$k8WE64HHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> BinaryConverted converted to John... What's next?
>>>>
>>>> Seriously, F10 isn't he only way to get into BIOS. In fact, AFAIK, it's
>>>> only used on older Compaqs. Have we already gone through all this with
>>>> you recently, or was that someone else? It's a laptop? You have the
>>>> make/model? Have we been thorough all this already? (Have pity on an
>>>> old man with a brain like Swiss cheese.)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>
>>>> "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress>
>>>> wrote in message
>>>> news:64E8F4FE-6707-4415-8037-B27F2D78688F@microsoft.com...
>>>>>I need to access it from Windows because F10 won't start the BIOS/CMOS
>>>>>setup
>>>>> program.
>>>>>
>>>>> And now, everything causes a blank screen, even at startup.
>>>>> --
>>>>> A story of success always has a beginning.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would
>>>>>> you want
>>>>>> to?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "BinaryConverted"
>>>>>> <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > That one resolved itself.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows.
>>>>>> > Is there any way at all?
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > A story of success always has a beginning.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > "PCR" wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com
>>>>>> >> | "MEB spewed:
>>>>>> >> |
>>>>>> >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud
>>>>>> >> you
>>>>>> >> |> as semi-intelligent,,,
>>>>>> >> |
>>>>>> >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy
>>>>>> >> |
>>>>>> >> | "Well, let's review your history here...
>>>>>> >> |
>>>>>> >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I
>>>>>> >> was
>>>>>> >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you
>>>>>> >> didn't
>>>>>> >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required ....
>>>>>> >> |
>>>>>> >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this
>>>>>> >> group, we
>>>>>> >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to
>>>>>> >> understand and
>>>>>> >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of
>>>>>> >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture...
>>>>>> >> |
>>>>>> >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but
>>>>>> >> in
>>>>>> >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and
>>>>>> >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your
>>>>>> >> abilities
>>>>>> >> | to understand...
>>>>>> >> |
>>>>>> >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here?????
>>>>>> >> |
>>>>>> >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for
>>>>>> >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem....
>>>>>> >> |
>>>>>> >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need
>>>>>> >> to
>>>>>> >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP,
>>>>>> >> apply
>>>>>> >> | them." -
>>>>>> >> MBE -----------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> >> |
>>>>>> >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a
>>>>>> >> Startup
>>>>>> >> Diskette...?...
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from
>>>>>> >> "Control
>>>>>> >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the
>>>>>> >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>> >> Thanks or Good Luck,
>>>>>> >> There may be humor in this post, and,
>>>>>> >> Naturally, you will not sue,
>>>>>> >> Should things get worse after this,
>>>>>> >> PCR
>>>>>> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
 
J

John

Re: Anger Management!

Relax... You are tense!

> Why don't you stop wasting space by posting unintelligible junk?


Why don't you go away and bug somebody else?

> No, I'll tell you what.


Don't tell me what - You don't know ANYTHING about computers.
--
A story of success always has a beginning.
 
J

John

Thank You MEB!

It solved the problem. It looks like everything is working perfectly and the
drivers are up-to-date.
-----
Note to 98 Guy: Reply to this post and be considered UN-WELCOME.
--
A story of success always has a beginning.


"MEB" wrote:

> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...eriesId=96219&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=20 -
> Download drivers and software
>
> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...odTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=96219&taskId=135 -
> Armada general - locate files
>
>
> Check Chapters 9 and 10 of the manual which Brian directed you to.
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> ________
>
>
> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C1702973-B90A-4791-88B6-2DC257E2676F@microsoft.com...
> | Brian A and Gary, I could not start the Compaq Utilities. The computer
> will
> | constantly beep and I then have to shut it down.
> |
> | What cursor? Mouse or MS-DOS cursor (blinking cursor)?
> | ---------
> | "Brian A." wrote:
> |
> | > From the manual:
> | >
> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/s...284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf
> | > To access Computer Setup (or Diagnostics) on the Compaq Utilities menu,
> follow these
> | > steps:
> | > 1. Restart the computer by clicking Shut Down on the Windows Start menu.
> (Or turn on
> | > power.)
> | > 2. Press F10 as soon as the cursor appears in the upper-right corner of
> the screen.
> | >
> | > IMPORTANT: The cursor is displayed on the screen for about two seconds.
> If you do not
> | > press F10 during this time, you must restart the computer and try again.
> | >
> | >
> | > --
> | >
> | > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> | > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> | >
> | > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> | > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> | >
> | >
> | > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > news:6CB83C17-7A90-4C03-859A-5E71BDC0EFE5@microsoft.com...
> | > > Sorry Gary. F10 didn't work. However, you may be correct in some
> | > > circumstances. My other Compaq laptop uses the F10 key to get into
> BIOS/CMOS
> | > > setup...
> | > >
> | > > I will read the website and see what works and what doesn't!
> | > >
> | > > If I can or can't fix the problem, I will get back to the website and
> reply.
> | > > Thank you for the link.
> | > >
> | > > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> | > >
> | > >> Maybe this will help you.
> | > >> http://tinyurl.com/3xu2ap
> | > >>
> | > >> Did you manage to get into BIOS yet? F10 work?
> | > >>
> | > >> --
> | > >> Gary S. Terhune
> | > >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > >> www.grystmill.com
> | > >>
> | > >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > >> news:ED095E07-DD46-4D09-88B0-1BA8F0D0516F@microsoft.com...
> | > >> > Model Number? Sure!
> | > >> >
> | > >> > Compaq Armada 1592DT
> | > >> >
> | > >> > Hope it helps!
> | > >> >
> | > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> | > >> >
> | > >> >> The usual key for Compaq BIOSes is F10. It would be good to know
> what
> | > >> >> model
> | > >> >> number the machine is. Here's one set of instructions for
> replacing the
> | > >> >> BIOS
> | > >> >> battery that I came across:
> | > >> >> http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/armada/index.htm Kinda folksy,
> but has
> | > >> >> some interesting hints.
> | > >> >>
> | > >> >> Really, I've been into laptops a lot, and so long as you
> disconnect the
> | > >> >> main
> | > >> >> battery and give it some time for the capacitors to discharge,
> there's
> | > >> >> not
> | > >> >> really much risk, if any, other than you mucking something up --
> those
> | > >> >> things are NOT fun to work on.
> | > >> >>
> | > >> >> --
> | > >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> | > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > >> >> www.grystmill.com
> | > >> >>
> | > >> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > >> >> news:20EEA03E-7263-4DBB-BCEA-931E20C5D532@microsoft.com...
> | > >> >> > Yes, I need to get to the BIOS setup, but I do not know the key
> | > >> >> > combination!
> | > >> >> >
> | > >> >> > We got this laptop from someone else, and yet, no CD, no
> instructions,
> | > >> >> > no
> | > >> >> > recovery disk etc.
> | > >> >> >
> | > >> >> > I do not want to look at all the components in the laptop to see
> if my
> | > >> >> > battery is dead, due to the fact that capacitors can hold large
> amounts
> | > >> >> > of
> | > >> >> > electricity. I tried one key combination, but it didn't go into
> | > >> >> > BIOS/CMOS
> | > >> >> > Setup.
> | > >> >> >
> | > >> >> > I would say it was probably manafactured in between 1996 - 2000.
> | > >> >> >
> | > >> >> > "Gordon Freeman" wrote:
> | > >> >> >
> | > >> >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote:
> | > >> >> >>
> | > >> >> >> >|
> | > >> >> >> >| No, I couldn't check for CMOS/BIOS batteries. But the
> battery in
> | > >> >> >> >the
> | > >> >> >> >| laptop does not charge at all.
> | > >> >> >> >
> | > >> >> >> > That's not good. When those go bad [unless its a *new
> defect*
> | > >> >> >> > rather
> | > >> >> >> > than
> | > >> >> >> > too many deep discharges] you have a real good indication
> that the
> | > >> >> >> > interior batteries [CMOS/other] need checked.
> | > >> >> >>
> | > >> >> >>
> | > >> >> >> Yes, if the BIOS battery is dead the BIOS will probably reset
> to its
> | > >> >> >> defaults, which may assume a different configuration, e.g
> different
> | > >> >> >> hard
> | > >> >> >> drive - I had that once years ago: an 80MB disk was suddenly
> assumed
> | > >> >> >> to
> | > >> >> >> be a 60MB one by the BIOS, result being the laptop stopped
> working.
> | > >> >> >>
> | > >> >> >> I would go into BIOS setup at power on and verify all the
> settings are
> | > >> >> >> right. You may need the manual for the machine to verify what
> the
> | > >> >> >> settings should be. Note though that if the battery is dead
> then it
> | > >> >> >> will
> | > >> >> >> forget the settings again on power off, however if changing the
> BIOS
> | > >> >> >> settings fixes the problem you will at least have isolated the
> problem
> | > >> >> >> and can try and get the BIOS battery replaced.
> | > >> >> >>
> | > >> >> >> Of course it might be that the drive really is failing, having
> checked
> | > >> >> >> the
> | > >> >> >> BIOS settings and ensured the disk is being detected correctly
> you'd
> | > >> >> >> want
> | > >> >> >> to run a surface scan, (or preferably manufacturer's
> diagnostics
> | > >> >> >> program
> | > >> >> >> if
> | > >> >> >> available, these will usaully look at the SMART data etc and
> see
> | > >> >> >> information that is invisible to scandisk about failing sectors
> etc).
> | > >> >> >>
> | > >> >>
> | > >> >>
> | > >> >>
> | > >>
> | > >>
> | > >>
> | >
> | >
>
>
>
 
M

MEB

"John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote in
message news:499578E0-A64B-44E9-AA6A-4E9DB539181C@microsoft.com...
| Thank You MEB!
|
| It solved the problem. It looks like everything is working perfectly and
the
| drivers are up-to-date.
| -----
| Note to 98 Guy: Reply to this post and be considered UN-WELCOME.
| --
| A story of success always has a beginning.
|

Glad to hear that its working, though you should try to find a friend to
replace those internal batteries sometime in the future, and pick up a
replacement main battery.

There is no good reason older computers can't continue to provide
satisfaction to their users, just takes a little TLC, and an occassional
"jump start", and a bit of maintanence.

And my thanks to all who provided additional help to John.

|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| >
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...eriesId=96219&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=20 -
| > Download drivers and software
| >
| >
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...odTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=96219&taskId=135 -
| > Armada general - locate files
| >
| >
| > Check Chapters 9 and 10 of the manual which Brian directed you to.
| >
| > --
| > MEB
| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > ________
| >
| >
| > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:C1702973-B90A-4791-88B6-2DC257E2676F@microsoft.com...
| > | Brian A and Gary, I could not start the Compaq Utilities. The computer
| > will
| > | constantly beep and I then have to shut it down.
| > |
| > | What cursor? Mouse or MS-DOS cursor (blinking cursor)?
| > | ---------
| > | "Brian A." wrote:
| > |
| > | > From the manual:
| > | >
| >
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/s...284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf
| > | > To access Computer Setup (or Diagnostics) on the Compaq Utilities
menu,
| > follow these
| > | > steps:
| > | > 1. Restart the computer by clicking Shut Down on the Windows Start
menu.
| > (Or turn on
| > | > power.)
| > | > 2. Press F10 as soon as the cursor appears in the upper-right corner
of
| > the screen.
| > | >
| > | > IMPORTANT: The cursor is displayed on the screen for about two
seconds.
| > If you do not
| > | > press F10 during this time, you must restart the computer and try
again.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
| > | > Conflicts start where information lacks.
| > | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
| > | >
| > | > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| > | > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:6CB83C17-7A90-4C03-859A-5E71BDC0EFE5@microsoft.com...
| > | > > Sorry Gary. F10 didn't work. However, you may be correct in some
| > | > > circumstances. My other Compaq laptop uses the F10 key to get into
| > BIOS/CMOS
| > | > > setup...
| > | > >
| > | > > I will read the website and see what works and what doesn't!
| > | > >
| > | > > If I can or can't fix the problem, I will get back to the website
and
| > reply.
| > | > > Thank you for the link.
| > | > >
| > | > > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
| > | > >
| > | > >> Maybe this will help you.
| > | > >> http://tinyurl.com/3xu2ap
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Did you manage to get into BIOS yet? F10 work?
| > | > >>
| > | > >> --
| > | > >> Gary S. Terhune
| > | > >> MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > >> www.grystmill.com
| > | > >>
| > | > >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > >> news:ED095E07-DD46-4D09-88B0-1BA8F0D0516F@microsoft.com...
| > | > >> > Model Number? Sure!
| > | > >> >
| > | > >> > Compaq Armada 1592DT
| > | > >> >
| > | > >> > Hope it helps!
| > | > >> >
| > | > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
| > | > >> >
| > | > >> >> The usual key for Compaq BIOSes is F10. It would be good to
know
| > what
| > | > >> >> model
| > | > >> >> number the machine is. Here's one set of instructions for
| > replacing the
| > | > >> >> BIOS
| > | > >> >> battery that I came across:
| > | > >> >> http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/armada/index.htm Kinda
folksy,
| > but has
| > | > >> >> some interesting hints.
| > | > >> >>
| > | > >> >> Really, I've been into laptops a lot, and so long as you
| > disconnect the
| > | > >> >> main
| > | > >> >> battery and give it some time for the capacitors to discharge,
| > there's
| > | > >> >> not
| > | > >> >> really much risk, if any, other than you mucking something
up --
| > those
| > | > >> >> things are NOT fun to work on.
| > | > >> >>
| > | > >> >> --
| > | > >> >> Gary S. Terhune
| > | > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > >> >> www.grystmill.com
| > | > >> >>
| > | > >> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > >> >> news:20EEA03E-7263-4DBB-BCEA-931E20C5D532@microsoft.com...
| > | > >> >> > Yes, I need to get to the BIOS setup, but I do not know the
key
| > | > >> >> > combination!
| > | > >> >> >
| > | > >> >> > We got this laptop from someone else, and yet, no CD, no
| > instructions,
| > | > >> >> > no
| > | > >> >> > recovery disk etc.
| > | > >> >> >
| > | > >> >> > I do not want to look at all the components in the laptop to
see
| > if my
| > | > >> >> > battery is dead, due to the fact that capacitors can hold
large
| > amounts
| > | > >> >> > of
| > | > >> >> > electricity. I tried one key combination, but it didn't go
into
| > | > >> >> > BIOS/CMOS
| > | > >> >> > Setup.
| > | > >> >> >
| > | > >> >> > I would say it was probably manafactured in between 1996 -
2000.
| > | > >> >> >
| > | > >> >> > "Gordon Freeman" wrote:
| > | > >> >> >
| > | > >> >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote:
| > | > >> >> >>
| > | > >> >> >> >|
| > | > >> >> >> >| No, I couldn't check for CMOS/BIOS batteries. But the
| > battery in
| > | > >> >> >> >the
| > | > >> >> >> >| laptop does not charge at all.
| > | > >> >> >> >
| > | > >> >> >> > That's not good. When those go bad [unless its a *new
| > defect*
| > | > >> >> >> > rather
| > | > >> >> >> > than
| > | > >> >> >> > too many deep discharges] you have a real good
indication
| > that the
| > | > >> >> >> > interior batteries [CMOS/other] need checked.
| > | > >> >> >>
| > | > >> >> >>
| > | > >> >> >> Yes, if the BIOS battery is dead the BIOS will probably
reset
| > to its
| > | > >> >> >> defaults, which may assume a different configuration, e.g
| > different
| > | > >> >> >> hard
| > | > >> >> >> drive - I had that once years ago: an 80MB disk was
suddenly
| > assumed
| > | > >> >> >> to
| > | > >> >> >> be a 60MB one by the BIOS, result being the laptop stopped
| > working.
| > | > >> >> >>
| > | > >> >> >> I would go into BIOS setup at power on and verify all the
| > settings are
| > | > >> >> >> right. You may need the manual for the machine to verify
what
| > the
| > | > >> >> >> settings should be. Note though that if the battery is dead
| > then it
| > | > >> >> >> will
| > | > >> >> >> forget the settings again on power off, however if changing
the
| > BIOS
| > | > >> >> >> settings fixes the problem you will at least have isolated
the
| > problem
| > | > >> >> >> and can try and get the BIOS battery replaced.
| > | > >> >> >>
| > | > >> >> >> Of course it might be that the drive really is failing,
having
| > checked
| > | > >> >> >> the
| > | > >> >> >> BIOS settings and ensured the disk is being detected
correctly
| > you'd
| > | > >> >> >> want
| > | > >> >> >> to run a surface scan, (or preferably manufacturer's
| > diagnostics
| > | > >> >> >> program
| > | > >> >> >> if
| > | > >> >> >> available, these will usaully look at the SMART data etc
and
| > see
| > | > >> >> >> information that is invisible to scandisk about failing
sectors
| > etc).
| > | > >> >> >>


--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

YW, <gd&r>.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O6DyImg5HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote
> in
> message news:499578E0-A64B-44E9-AA6A-4E9DB539181C@microsoft.com...
> | Thank You MEB!
> |
> | It solved the problem. It looks like everything is working perfectly and
> the
> | drivers are up-to-date.
> | -----
> | Note to 98 Guy: Reply to this post and be considered UN-WELCOME.
> | --
> | A story of success always has a beginning.
> |
>
> Glad to hear that its working, though you should try to find a friend to
> replace those internal batteries sometime in the future, and pick up a
> replacement main battery.
>
> There is no good reason older computers can't continue to provide
> satisfaction to their users, just takes a little TLC, and an occassional
> "jump start", and a bit of maintanence.
>
> And my thanks to all who provided additional help to John.
>
> |
> | "MEB" wrote:
> |
> | >
> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...eriesId=96219&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=20 -
> | > Download drivers and software
> | >
> | >
> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...odTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=96219&taskId=135 -
> | > Armada general - locate files
> | >
> | >
> | > Check Chapters 9 and 10 of the manual which Brian directed you to.
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB
> | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > ________
> | >
> | >
> | > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > news:C1702973-B90A-4791-88B6-2DC257E2676F@microsoft.com...
> | > | Brian A and Gary, I could not start the Compaq Utilities. The
> computer
> | > will
> | > | constantly beep and I then have to shut it down.
> | > |
> | > | What cursor? Mouse or MS-DOS cursor (blinking cursor)?
> | > | ---------
> | > | "Brian A." wrote:
> | > |
> | > | > From the manual:
> | > | >
> | >
> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/s...284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf
> | > | > To access Computer Setup (or Diagnostics) on the Compaq Utilities
> menu,
> | > follow these
> | > | > steps:
> | > | > 1. Restart the computer by clicking Shut Down on the Windows Start
> menu.
> | > (Or turn on
> | > | > power.)
> | > | > 2. Press F10 as soon as the cursor appears in the upper-right
> corner
> of
> | > the screen.
> | > | >
> | > | > IMPORTANT: The cursor is displayed on the screen for about two
> seconds.
> | > If you do not
> | > | > press F10 during this time, you must restart the computer and try
> again.
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | >
> | > | > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> | > | > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> | > | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> | > | >
> | > | > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> | > | > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > news:6CB83C17-7A90-4C03-859A-5E71BDC0EFE5@microsoft.com...
> | > | > > Sorry Gary. F10 didn't work. However, you may be correct in some
> | > | > > circumstances. My other Compaq laptop uses the F10 key to get
> into
> | > BIOS/CMOS
> | > | > > setup...
> | > | > >
> | > | > > I will read the website and see what works and what doesn't!
> | > | > >
> | > | > > If I can or can't fix the problem, I will get back to the
> website
> and
> | > reply.
> | > | > > Thank you for the link.
> | > | > >
> | > | > > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> | > | > >
> | > | > >> Maybe this will help you.
> | > | > >> http://tinyurl.com/3xu2ap
> | > | > >>
> | > | > >> Did you manage to get into BIOS yet? F10 work?
> | > | > >>
> | > | > >> --
> | > | > >> Gary S. Terhune
> | > | > >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | > >> www.grystmill.com
> | > | > >>
> | > | > >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > >> news:ED095E07-DD46-4D09-88B0-1BA8F0D0516F@microsoft.com...
> | > | > >> > Model Number? Sure!
> | > | > >> >
> | > | > >> > Compaq Armada 1592DT
> | > | > >> >
> | > | > >> > Hope it helps!
> | > | > >> >
> | > | > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> | > | > >> >
> | > | > >> >> The usual key for Compaq BIOSes is F10. It would be good to
> know
> | > what
> | > | > >> >> model
> | > | > >> >> number the machine is. Here's one set of instructions for
> | > replacing the
> | > | > >> >> BIOS
> | > | > >> >> battery that I came across:
> | > | > >> >> http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/armada/index.htm Kinda
> folksy,
> | > but has
> | > | > >> >> some interesting hints.
> | > | > >> >>
> | > | > >> >> Really, I've been into laptops a lot, and so long as you
> | > disconnect the
> | > | > >> >> main
> | > | > >> >> battery and give it some time for the capacitors to
> discharge,
> | > there's
> | > | > >> >> not
> | > | > >> >> really much risk, if any, other than you mucking something
> up --
> | > those
> | > | > >> >> things are NOT fun to work on.
> | > | > >> >>
> | > | > >> >> --
> | > | > >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> | > | > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | > >> >> www.grystmill.com
> | > | > >> >>
> | > | > >> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > >> >> news:20EEA03E-7263-4DBB-BCEA-931E20C5D532@microsoft.com...
> | > | > >> >> > Yes, I need to get to the BIOS setup, but I do not know
> the
> key
> | > | > >> >> > combination!
> | > | > >> >> >
> | > | > >> >> > We got this laptop from someone else, and yet, no CD, no
> | > instructions,
> | > | > >> >> > no
> | > | > >> >> > recovery disk etc.
> | > | > >> >> >
> | > | > >> >> > I do not want to look at all the components in the laptop
> to
> see
> | > if my
> | > | > >> >> > battery is dead, due to the fact that capacitors can hold
> large
> | > amounts
> | > | > >> >> > of
> | > | > >> >> > electricity. I tried one key combination, but it didn't go
> into
> | > | > >> >> > BIOS/CMOS
> | > | > >> >> > Setup.
> | > | > >> >> >
> | > | > >> >> > I would say it was probably manafactured in between 1996 -
> 2000.
> | > | > >> >> >
> | > | > >> >> > "Gordon Freeman" wrote:
> | > | > >> >> >
> | > | > >> >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote:
> | > | > >> >> >>
> | > | > >> >> >> >|
> | > | > >> >> >> >| No, I couldn't check for CMOS/BIOS batteries. But the
> | > battery in
> | > | > >> >> >> >the
> | > | > >> >> >> >| laptop does not charge at all.
> | > | > >> >> >> >
> | > | > >> >> >> > That's not good. When those go bad [unless its a *new
> | > defect*
> | > | > >> >> >> > rather
> | > | > >> >> >> > than
> | > | > >> >> >> > too many deep discharges] you have a real good
> indication
> | > that the
> | > | > >> >> >> > interior batteries [CMOS/other] need checked.
> | > | > >> >> >>
> | > | > >> >> >>
> | > | > >> >> >> Yes, if the BIOS battery is dead the BIOS will probably
> reset
> | > to its
> | > | > >> >> >> defaults, which may assume a different configuration, e.g
> | > different
> | > | > >> >> >> hard
> | > | > >> >> >> drive - I had that once years ago: an 80MB disk was
> suddenly
> | > assumed
> | > | > >> >> >> to
> | > | > >> >> >> be a 60MB one by the BIOS, result being the laptop
> stopped
> | > working.
> | > | > >> >> >>
> | > | > >> >> >> I would go into BIOS setup at power on and verify all the
> | > settings are
> | > | > >> >> >> right. You may need the manual for the machine to verify
> what
> | > the
> | > | > >> >> >> settings should be. Note though that if the battery is
> dead
> | > then it
> | > | > >> >> >> will
> | > | > >> >> >> forget the settings again on power off, however if
> changing
> the
> | > BIOS
> | > | > >> >> >> settings fixes the problem you will at least have
> isolated
> the
> | > problem
> | > | > >> >> >> and can try and get the BIOS battery replaced.
> | > | > >> >> >>
> | > | > >> >> >> Of course it might be that the drive really is failing,
> having
> | > checked
> | > | > >> >> >> the
> | > | > >> >> >> BIOS settings and ensured the disk is being detected
> correctly
> | > you'd
> | > | > >> >> >> want
> | > | > >> >> >> to run a surface scan, (or preferably manufacturer's
> | > diagnostics
> | > | > >> >> >> program
> | > | > >> >> >> if
> | > | > >> >> >> available, these will usaully look at the SMART data etc
> and
> | > see
> | > | > >> >> >> information that is invisible to scandisk about failing
> sectors
> | > etc).
> | > | > >> >> >>
>
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> ________
>
>
>
 
R

Roger Pearse

On 7 Aug, 04:08, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
> The usual key for Compaq BIOSes is F10. It would be good to know what model
> number the machine is. Here's one set of instructions for replacing the BIOS
> battery that I came across:http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/armada/index.htmKinda folksy, but has
> some interesting hints.
>
> Really, I've been into laptops a lot, and so long as you disconnect the main
> battery and give it some time for the capacitors to discharge, there's not
> really much risk, if any, other than you mucking something up -- those
> things are NOT fun to work on.


I wrote that page, and on the whole I wouldn't want to do this job
again. I ended up with a laptop with a battery held in with a bit of
tape, which tended to come off if I moved the laptop around. The
plastic brackets inside the laptop were just too fragile.

All the best,

Roger Pearse
 
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