A new 'Beta' test from Panda

---Fitz--- · Aug 8, 2007

I have not a clue why you can't see my IP address. It would depend on your
newsgroup client and how it's configured, whether proxies are being used by
the sender, how the sender's ISP is set up as well as a host of other
things...probably including firewalls, routers and other things. I'm doing
nothing special to conceal my IP and I wouldn't know how to do it nor would
I care. I'm on Time Warner cable, behind a Vonage router and behind a
Belkin router. My IP is dynamic which means it changes on occasion. I'm
not on dialup or my IP would change every time I dialed in.

At any rate, your question is not virus related so it's probably better
suited to a newsgroup concerning security rather than virus.

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23j5seNf2HHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> OK - a question for you Fitz - I'm always willing to learn.
>
> I have no problem seeing IP addresses in the messages of others here. I'm
> puzzled.
> Will you please explain why I cannot see any IP address listed in the
> 'Properties' of your posts here? TIA
>
> David

BoaterDave · Aug 9, 2007

Thanks for responding again, Fitz.

If I right-click on a post in any newsgroup or email message, I see a pop-up
menu at the bottom of which is 'Properties'. If I left-click on 'Properties'
I get a pop-up window showing General and Details. If I click on Details
there is loads of information. If you do this on a message from me you will
see, 3 lines up from the bottom the following: NNTP-Posting-Host:
AC8FC59C.ipt.aol.com 172.143.197.156 - That is my me! When I carry out the
same exercise on a message from you, I *cannot* identify you. Your
explanation may be valid - but I've never come across this before.

I had no idea about any of this a couple of years ago. I'd never even
considered why anyone would even wish to identify someone who might make a
post in a newsgroup, Microsoft or any other. Now somewhat wiser, I believe
that there are 'facilities' which can scan IP addresses and identify
vulnerable/unprotected PC's (but have no idea how they work!). Scouring the
Microsoft newsgroups may well be how the 'bad guys' find new additions for
their Botnets - and thus be able to spread spyware and viruses undetected.
Perhaps that answers your last point!

Another poster here has no Reverse DNS evident from his IP address. Whilst I
am willing to be shown that my understanding of matters is incorrect, no-one
has offered an explanation yet. I fear that, if one is unprotected, these
newsgroups pose a real threat to many Internet users. Just my view!

David

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"---Fitz---" <---fitz---@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:46ba4c75$0$12241$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>I have not a clue why you can't see my IP address. It would depend on your
>newsgroup client and how it's configured, whether proxies are being used by
>the sender, how the sender's ISP is set up as well as a host of other
>things...probably including firewalls, routers and other things. I'm doing
>nothing special to conceal my IP and I wouldn't know how to do it nor would
>I care. I'm on Time Warner cable, behind a Vonage router and behind a
>Belkin router. My IP is dynamic which means it changes on occasion. I'm
>not on dialup or my IP would change every time I dialed in.
>
> At any rate, your question is not virus related so it's probably better
> suited to a newsgroup concerning security rather than virus.
>
> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23j5seNf2HHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> OK - a question for you Fitz - I'm always willing to learn.
>>
>> I have no problem seeing IP addresses in the messages of others here. I'm
>> puzzled.
>> Will you please explain why I cannot see any IP address listed in the
>> 'Properties' of your posts here? TIA
>>
>> David
>

BoaterDave · Aug 9, 2007

The truth will out!

I would have/would still appreciate replies to my queries here Peter Foldes!
You did ask me a question!

Just so I have my record absolutely straight (and so that I may be confident
that I should concentrate my effort to seek out the 'bad guys' elsewhere) I
should be most grateful if you, Peter Foldes, would confirm here, for all to
see, that you:-

A. Have never posted advice on the Annexcafe User2User newsgroups (one in
the USA and the other in the UK) and

B. Have never posted anywhere using a different posting 'name' -
especially that of Derek Feldman.

If you are a good and honest person, I can determine no reason why you will
not respond to these simple queries. I understand that you are a foreign
national living now in Canada. I'd just like to be certain that your
'business' is unconnected with helping worldwide terrorism and/or enabling
fraudulent crime on the Internet. That is my sole purpose.

I look forward to your response.

If you do /not/ respond, perhaps others here will also start to question
your integrity!

David

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"Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hello David

This will be the last time I will involve myself with this delusional query
of yours. I was born as Peter Foldes and I stay as such and post as such
across the newsgroups. If you have any doubts about this person on another
newsgroup server who is named Derek Feldman then may I suggest that you go
and ask this person there why his name is Derek and why is he\she\is posting
using his\her name as Derek Feldman.

I have nothing to do with this person and I do not wish to either. Also I do
not know who she\he is.
As far as not trusting me for the answers that I post to you on your issues
, then that is your prerogative and either you take it or you do not.

This is the last time I will involve myself with you on this name changing
subject which you keep on bringing up and waiting bandwidth here for no
reason..

Now, may I ask you , did you solve your issues as far as what you have
posted concerning your computer.

Thanks David and have a nice day and weekend
--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> No worries on timing Peter.
>
> You will no doubt read the comment between Phil and me here. PLEASE will
> you
> give a brief explanation of why I or, indeed, anyone else should trust YOU
> (especially as you are now giving advice at -
> annexcafe.general.user2user -
> using the mame of Derek Feldman) I do not understand why you would wish to
> change your posing 'nick'.

>
> David
>
>
> "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%237ttoaJ0HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Sorry I could not get back to you sooner Dave but I see that Phil has
> explained to you correctly and in detail.
>
> --
> Peter
>
> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>
> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:e8TIJCI0HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Phew! Thanks for all that, Phil! I really appreciate the time and
>> trouble
>> you have taken to respond so comprehensively.
>>
>> Dare I ask you for further comment? <g> I will anyway!
>>
>> When posting to a newsgroup on a private server, it seems that
>> anyone/everyone can identify me, regardless of user name employed. Whilst
>> I
>> fully appreciate that an individual has a certain style (which can be
>> 'fudged' - obfuscated, if you will) if the IP address changes as you say
>> (and I believe you!) can you suggest an alternate way they can identify
>> someone without having installed some form of 'reporting' malware on
>> one's
>> PC?
>>
>> I'd value your advice. TIA.
>>
>> David
>>
>> ******************************************************************************************************
>> "Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@example.com> wrote in message
>> news:Wwqqi.12398$Od7.11531@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>> 'BoaterDave' wrote, in part:
>>> | **Indeed - your memory serves you well (this time!) However, that does
>>> *not*
>>> | explain why posts from you here invariably have different IP addresses
>>> when
>>> | the day changes. You cannot, surely, be suggesting that when folk
>>> visit
>>> | /this/ group and see the name of Peter Foldes that it isn't really
>>> you?
>>> | People tend to see a name they trust and follow the advice given - how
>>> easy
>>> | it would be to mislead vulnerable folk in such a scenario. So I ask
>>> you
>>> once
>>> | again, politely., the reason for the constant change in your IP
>>> address.
>>> _____
>>>
>>> In the main, for DSL, an IP address is assigned dynamically to a
>>> customer.
>>> Each time a system (or for some setups the modem) connects to the ISP,
>>> the
>>> ISP assigns a new IP address from the block allocated to the ISP. A
>>> static
>>> IP address costs extra. If, for example, you were to examine the
>>> headers
>>> for my posts to this newsgroup, you would usually see a different IP
>>> address
>>> on posts from different days. Each IP address would be picked more or
>>> less
>>> at random from the block assigned to the ISP. With a large IP like
>>> mine,
>>> that would be from a address space of millions. If you look at my posts
>>> with time stamps more than a few days apart the IP address is different.
>>> The IP address associated with your post is from the block assigned to
>>> AOL
>>> (172.192.0.0 - 172.216.255.255), an IP address space of just over
>>> 1,500,000.
>>> My current IP address is as I make this post is 208.187.80.135. If I
>>> disconnect my DSL modem, and post again, the IP address in that second
>>> post
>>> will be different. So newsgroup identities are exactly as you thought.
>>>
>>> There is no way to identify a newsgroup poster from the IP address in
>>> the
>>> post headers, even if the headers are completely legitimate without the
>>> cooperation of the ISP because you need the records the ISP keeps to
>>> match
>>> an IP address with the customer AT THE TIME THE POST WAS MADE. Even if
>>> the
>>> customers IP address is static, though you might assume the identity of
>>> the
>>> poster, you'd still need the account records. This should take a court
>>> order or a 'national security letter' these days.
>>>
>>> Some naive trolls who use different sock puppet posting names are
>>> exposed
>>> when [they post from a small ISP (because the pool of ISP addresses is
>>> small) or when they post from a static IP address] AND the style is
>>> suspiciously similar. But that is just exposure of sock puppets, NOT
>>> actually matching a real identity to a post.
>>>
>>> As for your original question, which I think is about Panda nanoscan
>>> (ALL
>>> the information for a newsgroup post should be in the BODY of the
>>> message -
>>> the 'Subject' line should be a short phrase to indicate the content of
>>> the
>>> message). My thoughts on Panda nanoscan: there is no compelling reason
>>> to
>>> try it. On the down side it is 'Beta' (may have bugs, is not ready for
>>> release, is at present for Panda's benefit, not the user's benefit), it
>>> can't be very thorough in 20 seconds, requires installing active-x
>>> controls,
>>> really gives no assurance that the scanned system is clean, and requires
>>> an
>>> active connection to the internet. On the up side, it is very quick.
>>>
>>> Phil Weldon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:uj8F0CF0HHA.5644@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> | In-line responses
>>> |
>>> | "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> | news:OCx$NTE0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> | Sorry Dave . But I cannot comment on your request since I am not
>>> familiar
>>> at
>>> | all with the Panda software. Maybe someone will come along soon that
>>> can
>>> | comment on your question.
>>> |
>>> | **Thanks for your straight-forward reply, Peter. I'll wait patiently!
>>>

>>> |
>>> | As far as IP addresses go you do know that they can be spoofed and
>>> some
>>> | people do it .
>>> | You have been in a similar situation yourself when you had your ID
>>> stolen
>>> in
>>> | the past so you know what kind of situation it can create
>>> |
>>> | **Indeed - your memory serves you well (this time!) However, that does
>>> *not*
>>> | explain why posts from you here invariably have different IP addresses
>>> when
>>> | the day changes. You cannot, surely, be suggesting that when folk
>>> visit
>>> | /this/ group and see the name of Peter Foldes that it isn't really
>>> you?
>>> | People tend to see a name they trust and follow the advice given - how
>>> easy
>>> | it would be to mislead vulnerable folk in such a scenario. So I ask
>>> you
>>> once
>>> | again, politely., the reason for the constant change in your IP
>>> address.
>>> |
>>> | BD
>>> |
>>> |
>>> ______________________________________________________________________________________
>>> |
>>> | "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>> | news:%23%23FF5pA0HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> | > Hello Peter! Thank you for the reminder.
>>> | >
>>> | > It would, though, have been even more helpful had you also given
>>> your
>>> view
>>> | > on the new facility from Panda as I'd requested.
>>> | >
>>> | > Whilst I'm here I noted that your IP address is currently
>>> 64.228.81.234
>>> | > Having checked your other posts on this group since 31 May, each IP
>>> | > address
>>> | > is different (save for on 5 July when 3 replies were made on the
>>> same
>>> | > day).
>>> | > The previous training given by you - to me - suggested that an IP
>>> address
>>> | > may be used to identify a particular poster. Others posting here
>>> *do*
>>> | > maintain the same IP address. Will you, please, explain why yours
>>> changes?
>>> | >
>>> | > An additional query. On a separate newsgroup, on a private server,
>>> the
>>> IP
>>> | > address of a poster is shown as 127.0.0.1, viz:-
>>> | >
>>> | > X-Trace: dogagent.com 1185373384 26976 127.0.0.1 (25 Jul 2007
>>> 14:23:04
>>> | > GMT)
>>> | >
>>> | > I'd be grateful if you, or anyone else knowledgeable on such
>>> matters,
>>> | > would
>>> | > comment on this. Thank you.
>>> | >
>>> | > David
>>> | >
>>> | > ***************************************
>>> | >
>>> | >
>>> | > "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> | > news:%23e7LSG$zHHA.5152@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> | > multiposted not crossposted. Even worse
>>> | >
>>> | >
>>> | > http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> | > --
>>> | > Peter
>>> | >
>>> | > Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>>> | > Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be
>>> acknowledged.
>>> | >
>>> | > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>> | > news:uRDXih8zHHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> | >> Forgive the cross-post but, on reflection, I felt this might be a
>>> more
>>> | >> appropriate place to ask this question!
>>> | >>
>>> | >> Hi - just wondering is any of the gurus here have tried it and
>>> might
>>> wish
>>> | >> to
>>> | >> comment: See: http://www.nanoscan.com/
>>> | >>
>>> | >> David
>>> | >>
>>> | >>
>>> | >
>>> | >
>>> |
>>> |
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Dave H · Aug 9, 2007

David,
that is an old message, but you probably got my attention for the last time.
Should have really ignored it.
I can't be 'bothered' with you any more, nor can my team of 'good guys'.
'Them' that I gave the group to, can't be bothered either and wanted the
group deleted, fed up with patiently explaining to you and for you keep
maligning good people.
Nothing less than an apology from you, which can be made public, will be
considered.

None of this has anything to do with security or virus.

Dave H

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:OXe1Uee2HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Now why on earth would people want to 'bother' you Dave?
>
> Perhaps because you gave them a newsgroup on your server ....... and then
> removed it without notice or warning?
> It seems to me, right now, that you are *not* the 'good guy' I had
> (vaguely) hoped you might be.

>
> David
>
> *****************************************************************************
> "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
> news:%23SuYBGe0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> David,
>> Occasionally I have to look for people who might cause me bother.
>> The tool I use for identifying such persons is freeware, called My Nose.
>> I would steer away from that newsgroup, they obviously have found
>> something about you that has rubbed them up the wrong way.
>>
>> Dave H
>>
>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:%23RSl$MJ0HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Hello again Phil - slight misunderstanding I fear!
>>>
>>> I'm actually using the McAfee Internet Security Suite supplied (at extra
>>> cost!) with my AOL (UK) subscription
>>> + Windows Defender, AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5 and Ad-Aware 2007 - all up to
>>> date
>>> on Windows XP Home, SP2 and all updates.
>>>
>>> I was referring in my comment to those on another newsgroup who seem
>>> adamant
>>> that they can identify me regardless of my selected 'nick' for posting
>>> purposes. If my IP doesn't give me away, I was wondering what other
>>> 'spy'
>>> might be being used to identify me.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> *************************************************************************************************
>>> "Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@example.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uRsqi.11417$rR.9799@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>> 'BoaterDave' wrote:
>>>> | So it seems that they are lying - or I have malware (again!) on my
>>>> PC!
>>>> | Now I've got to determine which it is!
>>>> _____
>>>>
>>>> No, not lying - 'Beta' is a warning label that the software may not
>>>> work
>>>> as
>>>> intended. You should not depend on 'Beta' software for critical
>>>> operations
>>>> (and keeping your system free of malware is a critical operation.) And
>>>> even
>>>> antimalware in production can give false alerts. If you are going to
>>>> use
>>>> an
>>>> on-line scan, pick one that is NOT 'beta' and that is more thorough
>>>> than
>>>> 'Nanoscan'. Symantec and other antimalware publishers have more
>>>> thorough
>>>> on-line scans
>>>>
>>>> As a comparison, the Symantec on-line virus scanner will scan every
>>>> file
>>>> on
>>>> a system and take 20 minutes or more (fast system with > 100,000 files)
>>>> while 'Nanoscan' checks, on the same system in 20 seconds, well, who
>>>> knows?
>>>> ( I would imagine 'Nanoscan' checks memory, the registry, and whatever
>>>> else
>>>> it can in 20 seconds. Something like 'Nanoscan' might eventually be an
>>>> quick supplement to other malware detectors, but only a minor
>>>> supplement.
>>>>
>>>> What antimalware protection do you use, and is it up-to-date (an in
>>>> either
>>>> the very latest definitions or definitions updated within the last two
>>>> days)?
>>>>
>>>> Phil Weldon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Phil Weldon
>>>>
>>>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:eXSXPTI0HHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> | So it seems that they are lying - or I have malware (again!) on my
>>>> PC!
>>>> | Now I've got to determine which it is!
>>>> |
>>>> | Thanks for your coments, Phil.
>>>> |
>>>> | BD
>>>> | ******************************************************
>>>> | "Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@example.com> wrote in message
>>>> | news:EBrqi.11448$tj6.10470@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>> | > 'BoaterDave' wrote, in part:
>>>> | > | When posting to a newsgroup on a private server, it seems that
>>>> | > | anyone/everyone can identify me, regardless of user name
>>>> employed.
>>>> | > Whilst
>>>> | > I
>>>> | > | fully appreciate that an individual has a certain style (which
>>>> can
>>>> be
>>>> | > | 'fudged' - obfuscated, if you will) if the IP address changes as
>>>> you
>>>> say
>>>> | > | (and I believe you!) can you suggest an alternate way they can
>>>> identify
>>>> | > | someone without having installed some form of 'reporting' malware
>>>> on
>>>> | > one's
>>>> | > | PC?
>>>> | > _____
>>>> | >
>>>> | > In the USA be George W. Bush, Alberto Gonzales, or Dick Cheney,
>>>> bribe
>>>> the
>>>> | > ISP, or actually get a court order B^)
>>>> | >
>>>> | > Phil Weldon
>>>> | >
>>>> | > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> | > news:e8TIJCI0HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> | > | Phew! Thanks for all that, Phil! I really appreciate the time
>>>> and
>>>> | > trouble
>>>> | > | you have taken to respond so comprehensively.
>>>> | > |
>>>> | > | Dare I ask you for further comment? <g> I will anyway!
>>>> | > |
>>>> | > | When posting to a newsgroup on a private server, it seems that
>>>> | > | anyone/everyone can identify me, regardless of user name
>>>> employed.
>>>> | > Whilst
>>>> | > I
>>>> | > | fully appreciate that an individual has a certain style (which
>>>> can
>>>> be
>>>> | > | 'fudged' - obfuscated, if you will) if the IP address changes as
>>>> you
>>>> say
>>>> | > | (and I believe you!) can you suggest an alternate way they can
>>>> identify
>>>> | > | someone without having installed some form of 'reporting' malware
>>>> on
>>>> | > one's
>>>> | > | PC?
>>>> | > |
>>>> | > | I'd value your advice. TIA.
>>>> | > |
>>>> | > | David
>>>> | > |
>>>> | > |
>>>> | >
>>>> ******************************************************************************************************
>>>> | > | "Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@example.com> wrote in message
>>>> | > | news:Wwqqi.12398$Od7.11531@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>> | > | > 'BoaterDave' wrote, in part:
>>>> | > | > | **Indeed - your memory serves you well (this time!) However,
>>>> that
>>>> | > does
>>>> | > | > *not*
>>>> | > | > | explain why posts from you here invariably have different IP
>>>> | > addresses
>>>> | > | > when
>>>> | > | > | the day changes. You cannot, surely, be suggesting that when
>>>> folk
>>>> | > visit
>>>> | > | > | /this/ group and see the name of Peter Foldes that it isn't
>>>> really
>>>> | > you?
>>>> | > | > | People tend to see a name they trust and follow the advice
>>>> given -
>>>> | > how
>>>> | > | > easy
>>>> | > | > | it would be to mislead vulnerable folk in such a scenario. So
>>>> I
>>>> ask
>>>> | > you
>>>> | > | > once
>>>> | > | > | again, politely., the reason for the constant change in your
>>>> IP
>>>> | > address.
>>>> | > | > _____
>>>> | > | >
>>>> | > | > In the main, for DSL, an IP address is assigned dynamically to
>>>> a
>>>> | > customer.
>>>> | > | > Each time a system (or for some setups the modem) connects to
>>>> the
>>>> ISP,
>>>> | > the
>>>> | > | > ISP assigns a new IP address from the block allocated to the
>>>> ISP.
>>>> A
>>>> | > | > static
>>>> | > | > IP address costs extra. If, for example, you were to examine
>>>> the
>>>> | > headers
>>>> | > | > for my posts to this newsgroup, you would usually see a
>>>> different
>>>> IP
>>>> | > | > address
>>>> | > | > on posts from different days. Each IP address would be picked
>>>> more
>>>> or
>>>> | > | > less
>>>> | > | > at random from the block assigned to the ISP. With a large IP
>>>> like
>>>> | > mine,
>>>> | > | > that would be from a address space of millions. If you look at
>>>> my
>>>> | > posts
>>>> | > | > with time stamps more than a few days apart the IP address is
>>>> | > different.
>>>> | > | > The IP address associated with your post is from the block
>>>> assigned
>>>> to
>>>> | > AOL
>>>> | > | > (172.192.0.0 - 172.216.255.255), an IP address space of just
>>>> over
>>>> | > | > 1,500,000.
>>>> | > | > My current IP address is as I make this post is 208.187.80.135.
>>>> If
>>>> I
>>>> | > | > disconnect my DSL modem, and post again, the IP address in that
>>>> second
>>>> | > | > post
>>>> | > | > will be different. So newsgroup identities are exactly as you
>>>> | > thought.
>>>> | > | >
>>>> | > | > There is no way to identify a newsgroup poster from the IP
>>>> address
>>>> in
>>>> | > the
>>>> | > | > post headers, even if the headers are completely legitimate
>>>> without
>>>> | > the
>>>> | > | > cooperation of the ISP because you need the records the ISP
>>>> keeps
>>>> to
>>>> | > match
>>>> | > | > an IP address with the customer AT THE TIME THE POST WAS MADE.
>>>> Even
>>>> | > if
>>>> | > | > the
>>>> | > | > customers IP address is static, though you might assume the
>>>> identity
>>>> | > of
>>>> | > | > the
>>>> | > | > poster, you'd still need the account records. This should take
>>>> a
>>>> | > court
>>>> | > | > order or a 'national security letter' these days.
>>>> | > | >
>>>> | > | > Some naive trolls who use different sock puppet posting names
>>>> are
>>>> | > exposed
>>>> | > | > when [they post from a small ISP (because the pool of ISP
>>>> addresses
>>>> is
>>>> | > | > small) or when they post from a static IP address] AND the
>>>> style
>>>> is
>>>> | > | > suspiciously similar. But that is just exposure of sock
>>>> puppets,
>>>> NOT
>>>> | > | > actually matching a real identity to a post.
>>>> | > | >
>>>> | > | > As for your original question, which I think is about Panda
>>>> nanoscan
>>>> | > (ALL
>>>> | > | > the information for a newsgroup post should be in the BODY of
>>>> the
>>>> | > | > message -
>>>> | > | > the 'Subject' line should be a short phrase to indicate the
>>>> content
>>>> of
>>>> | > the
>>>> | > | > message). My thoughts on Panda nanoscan: there is no
>>>> compelling
>>>> | > reason
>>>> | > | > to
>>>> | > | > try it. On the down side it is 'Beta' (may have bugs, is not
>>>> ready
>>>> | > for
>>>> | > | > release, is at present for Panda's benefit, not the user's
>>>> benefit),
>>>> | > it
>>>> | > | > can't be very thorough in 20 seconds, requires installing
>>>> active-x
>>>> | > | > controls,
>>>> | > | > really gives no assurance that the scanned system is clean, and
>>>> | > requires
>>>> | > | > an
>>>> | > | > active connection to the internet. On the up side, it is very
>>>> quick.
>>>> | > | >
>>>> | > | > Phil Weldon
>>>> | > | >
>>>> | > | >
>>>> | > | >
>>>> | > | > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> | > | > news:uj8F0CF0HHA.5644@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> | > | > | In-line responses
>>>> | > | > |
>>>> | > | > | "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> | > | > | news:OCx$NTE0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> | > | > | Sorry Dave . But I cannot comment on your request since I am
>>>> not
>>>> | > | > familiar
>>>> | > | > at
>>>> | > | > | all with the Panda software. Maybe someone will come along
>>>> soon
>>>> that
>>>> | > can
>>>> | > | > | comment on your question.
>>>> | > | > |
>>>> | > | > | **Thanks for your straight-forward reply, Peter. I'll wait
>>>> | > patiently!
>>>> | >

>>>> | > | > |
>>>> | > | > | As far as IP addresses go you do know that they can be
>>>> spoofed
>>>> and
>>>>| > some
>>>> | > | > | people do it .
>>>> | > | > | You have been in a similar situation yourself when you had
>>>> your
>>>> ID
>>>> | > | > stolen
>>>> | > | > in
>>>> | > | > | the past so you know what kind of situation it can create
>>>> | > | > |
>>>> | > | > | **Indeed - your memory serves you well (this time!) However,
>>>> that
>>>> | > does
>>>> | > | > *not*
>>>> | > | > | explain why posts from you here invariably have different IP
>>>> | > addresses
>>>> | > | > when
>>>> | > | > | the day changes. You cannot, surely, be suggesting that when
>>>> folk
>>>> | > visit
>>>> | > | > | /this/ group and see the name of Peter Foldes that it isn't
>>>> really
>>>> | > you?
>>>> | > | > | People tend to see a name they trust and follow the advice
>>>> given -
>>>> | > how
>>>> | > | > easy
>>>> | > | > | it would be to mislead vulnerable folk in such a scenario. So
>>>> I
>>>> ask
>>>> | > you
>>>> | > | > once
>>>> | > | > | again, politely., the reason for the constant change in your
>>>> IP
>>>> | > address.
>>>> | > | > |
>>>> | > | > | BD
>>>> | > | > |
>>>> | > | > |
>>>> | > | >
>>>> | >
>>>> ______________________________________________________________________________________
>>>> | > | > |
>>>> | > | > | "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> | > | > | news:%23%23FF5pA0HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> | > | > | > Hello Peter! Thank you for the reminder.
>>>> | > | > | >
>>>> | > | > | > It would, though, have been even more helpful had you also
>>>> given
>>>> | > your
>>>> | > | > view
>>>> | > | > | > on the new facility from Panda as I'd requested.
>>>> | > | > | >
>>>> | > | > | > Whilst I'm here I noted that your IP address is currently
>>>> | > | > 64.228.81.234
>>>> | > | > | > Having checked your other posts on this group since 31 May,
>>>> each
>>>> | > IP
>>>> | > | > | > address
>>>> | > | > | > is different (save for on 5 July when 3 replies were made
>>>> on
>>>> the
>>>> | > same
>>>> | > | > | > day).
>>>> | > | > | > The previous training given by you - to me - suggested that
>>>> an
>>>> IP
>>>> | > | > address
>>>> | > | > | > may be used to identify a particular poster. Others posting
>>>> here
>>>> | > *do*
>>>> | > | > | > maintain the same IP address. Will you, please, explain why
>>>> yours
>>>> | > | > changes?
>>>> | > | > | >
>>>> | > | > | > An additional query. On a separate newsgroup, on a private
>>>> server,
>>>> | > the
>>>> | > | > IP
>>>> | > | > | > address of a poster is shown as 127.0.0.1, viz:-
>>>> | > | > | >
>>>> | > | > | > X-Trace: dogagent.com 1185373384 26976 127.0.0.1 (25 Jul
>>>> 2007
>>>> | > 14:23:04
>>>> | > | > | > GMT)
>>>> | > | > | >
>>>> | > | > | > I'd be grateful if you, or anyone else knowledgeable on
>>>> such
>>>> | > matters,
>>>> | > | > | > would
>>>> | > | > | > comment on this. Thank you.
>>>> | > | > | >
>>>> | > | > | > David
>>>> | > | > | >
>>>> | > | > | > ***************************************
>>>> | > | > | >
>>>> | > | > | >
>>>> | > | > | > "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> | > | > | > news:%23e7LSG$zHHA.5152@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> | > | > | > multiposted not crossposted. Even worse
>>>> | > | > | >
>>>> | > | > | >
>>>> | > | > | > http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>> | > | > | > --
>>>> | > | > | > Peter
>>>> | > | > | >
>>>> | > | > | > Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>>>> | > | > | > Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be
>>>> | > acknowledged.
>>>> | > | > | >
>>>> | > | > | > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> | > | > | > news:uRDXih8zHHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> | > | > | >> Forgive the cross-post but, on reflection, I felt this
>>>> might
>>>> be
>>>> a
>>>> | > | > more
>>>> | > | > | >> appropriate place to ask this question!
>>>> | > | > | >>
>>>> | > | > | >> Hi - just wondering is any of the gurus here have tried it
>>>> and
>>>> | > might
>>>> | > | > wish
>>>> | > | > | >> to
>>>> | > | > | >> comment: See: http://www.nanoscan.com/
>>>> | > | > | >>
>>>> | > | > | >> David
>>>> | > | > | >>
>>>> | > | > | >>
>>>> | > | > | >
>>>> | > | > | >
>>>> | > | > |
>>>> | > | > |
>>>> | > | >
>>>> | > | >
>>>> | > |
>>>> | > |
>>>> | >
>>>> | >
>>>> |
>>>> |
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

BoaterDave · Aug 9, 2007

Action Plan!

Hello Dave

Taking your last sentence of your post first, you said in your message here
on 29 July at 1849 - "You are the intruder/virus/Trojan, with your
"Crusading", attacking good people". I therefore consider that there *is* a
place for me here! <g>

I will willingly make a public apology if necessary, but I cannot do so
until I have been told exactly what it is for which you wish me to
apologise. Perhaps you could start by explaining how *you* can tell the good
guys from the bad here on the Internet, especially those posting in
newsgroups. Then, perhaps, tell me which good guys I have maligned and, of
course, exactly how you *know* that they are good guys. Are you *absolutely*
sure - or just pre-supposing?

Should you prefer to take the subject matter of my quest (to identify the
bad guys) away from the public gaze here, and you are in no way affiliated
with Cybercrime and malware propergation, perhaps you will re-open a
'boater.dave' group on your server which is NOT moderated by anyone at all.
Debate and discussion could then continue in private. Some folk from /this/
group might even come over and join in any discussion which transpires,
especially when I advertise any such new group here on the Microsoft groups.

The ball is in your court.

David

***************************************************************************************

"Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
news:OoTah4n2HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> David,
> that is an old message, but you probably got my attention for the last
> time.
> Should have really ignored it.
> I can't be 'bothered' with you any more, nor can my team of 'good guys'.
> 'Them' that I gave the group to, can't be bothered either and wanted the
> group deleted, fed up with patiently explaining to you and for you keep
> maligning good people.
> Nothing less than an apology from you, which can be made public, will be
> considered.
>
> None of this has anything to do with security or virus.
>
> Dave H
>
> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:OXe1Uee2HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Now why on earth would people want to 'bother' you Dave?
>>
>> Perhaps because you gave them a newsgroup on your server ....... and then
>> removed it without notice or warning?
>> It seems to me, right now, that you are *not* the 'good guy' I had
>> (vaguely) hoped you might be.

>>
>> David
>>
>> *****************************************************************************
>> "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23SuYBGe0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> David,
>>> Occasionally I have to look for people who might cause me bother.
>>> The tool I use for identifying such persons is freeware, called My Nose.
>>> I would steer away from that newsgroup, they obviously have found
>>> something about you that has rubbed them up the wrong way.
>>>
>>> Dave H
>>>
>>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:%23RSl$MJ0HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hello again Phil - slight misunderstanding I fear!
>>>>
>>>> I'm actually using the McAfee Internet Security Suite supplied (at
>>>> extra
>>>> cost!) with my AOL (UK) subscription
>>>> + Windows Defender, AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5 and Ad-Aware 2007 - all up to
>>>> date
>>>> on Windows XP Home, SP2 and all updates.
>>>>
>>>> I was referring in my comment to those on another newsgroup who seem
>>>> adamant
>>>> that they can identify me regardless of my selected 'nick' for posting
>>>> purposes. If my IP doesn't give me away, I was wondering what other
>>>> 'spy'
>>>> might be being used to identify me.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> *************************************************************************************************
>>>> "Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@example.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uRsqi.11417$rR.9799@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>>> 'BoaterDave' wrote:
>>>>> | So it seems that they are lying - or I have malware (again!) on my
>>>>> PC!
>>>>> | Now I've got to determine which it is!
>>>>> _____
>>>>>
>>>>> No, not lying - 'Beta' is a warning label that the software may not
>>>>> work
>>>>> as
>>>>> intended. You should not depend on 'Beta' software for critical
>>>>> operations
>>>>> (and keeping your system free of malware is a critical operation.)
>>>>> And
>>>>> even
>>>>> antimalware in production can give false alerts. If you are going to
>>>>> use
>>>>> an
>>>>> on-line scan, pick one that is NOT 'beta' and that is more thorough
>>>>> than
>>>>> 'Nanoscan'. Symantec and other antimalware publishers have more
>>>>> thorough
>>>>> on-line scans
>>>>>
>>>>> As a comparison, the Symantec on-line virus scanner will scan every
>>>>> file
>>>>> on
>>>>> a system and take 20 minutes or more (fast system with > 100,000
>>>>> files)
>>>>> while 'Nanoscan' checks, on the same system in 20 seconds, well, who
>>>>> knows?
>>>>> ( I would imagine 'Nanoscan' checks memory, the registry, and whatever
>>>>> else
>>>>> it can in 20 seconds. Something like 'Nanoscan' might eventually be
>>>>> an
>>>>> quick supplement to other malware detectors, but only a minor
>>>>> supplement.
>>>>>
>>>>> What antimalware protection do you use, and is it up-to-date (an in
>>>>> either
>>>>> the very latest definitions or definitions updated within the last two
>>>>> days)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil Weldon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil Weldon
>>>>>
>>>>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eXSXPTI0HHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> | So it seems that they are lying - or I have malware (again!) on my
>>>>> PC!
>>>>> | Now I've got to determine which it is!
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Thanks for your coments, Phil.
>>>>> |
>>>>> | BD
>>>>> | ******************************************************
>>>>> | "Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>> | news:EBrqi.11448$tj6.10470@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>>> | > 'BoaterDave' wrote, in part:
>>>>> | > | When posting to a newsgroup on a private server, it seems that
>>>>> | > | anyone/everyone can identify me, regardless of user name
>>>>> employed.
>>>>> | > Whilst
>>>>> | > I
>>>>> | > | fully appreciate that an individual has a certain style (which
>>>>> can
>>>>> be
>>>>> | > | 'fudged' - obfuscated, if you will) if the IP address changes as
>>>>> you
>>>>> say
>>>>> | > | (and I believe you!) can you suggest an alternate way they can
>>>>> identify
>>>>> | > | someone without having installed some form of 'reporting'
>>>>> malware on
>>>>> | > one's
>>>>> | > | PC?
>>>>> | > _____
>>>>> | >
>>>>> | > In the USA be George W. Bush, Alberto Gonzales, or Dick Cheney,
>>>>> bribe
>>>>> the
>>>>> | > ISP, or actually get a court order B^)
>>>>> | >
>>>>> | > Phil Weldon
>>>>> | >
>>>>> | > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> | > news:e8TIJCI0HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> | > | Phew! Thanks for all that, Phil! I really appreciate the time
>>>>> and
>>>>> | > trouble
>>>>> | > | you have taken to respond so comprehensively.
>>>>> | > |
>>>>> | > | Dare I ask you for further comment? <g> I will anyway!
>>>>> | > |
>>>>> | > | When posting to a newsgroup on a private server, it seems that
>>>>> | > | anyone/everyone can identify me, regardless of user name
>>>>> employed.
>>>>> | > Whilst
>>>>> | > I
>>>>> | > | fully appreciate that an individual has a certain style (which
>>>>> can
>>>>> be
>>>>> | > | 'fudged' - obfuscated, if you will) if the IP address changes as
>>>>> you
>>>>> say
>>>>> | > | (and I believe you!) can you suggest an alternate way they can
>>>>> identify
>>>>> | > | someone without having installed some form of 'reporting'
>>>>> malware on
>>>>> | > one's
>>>>> | > | PC?
>>>>> | > |
>>>>> | > | I'd value your advice. TIA.
>>>>> | > |
>>>>> | > | David
>>>>> | > |
>>>>> | > |
>>>>> | >
>>>>> ******************************************************************************************************
>>>>> | > | "Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>> | > | news:Wwqqi.12398$Od7.11531@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>>> | > | > 'BoaterDave' wrote, in part:
>>>>> | > | > | **Indeed - your memory serves you well (this time!) However,
>>>>> that
>>>>> | > does
>>>>> | > | > *not*
>>>>> | > | > | explain why posts from you here invariably have different IP
>>>>> | > addresses
>>>>> | > | > when
>>>>> | > | > | the day changes. You cannot, surely, be suggesting that when
>>>>> folk
>>>>> | > visit
>>>>> | > | > | /this/ group and see the name of Peter Foldes that it isn't
>>>>> really
>>>>> | > you?
>>>>> | > | > | People tend to see a name they trust and follow the advice
>>>>> given -
>>>>> | > how
>>>>> | > | > easy
>>>>> | > | > | it would be to mislead vulnerable folk in such a scenario.
>>>>> So I
>>>>> ask
>>>>> | > you
>>>>> | > | > once
>>>>> | > | > | again, politely., the reason for the constant change in your
>>>>> IP
>>>>> | > address.
>>>>> | > | > _____
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | > In the main, for DSL, an IP address is assigned dynamically to
>>>>> a
>>>>> | > customer.
>>>>> | > | > Each time a system (or for some setups the modem) connects to
>>>>> the
>>>>> ISP,
>>>>> | > the
>>>>> | > | > ISP assigns a new IP address from the block allocated to the
>>>>> ISP.
>>>>> A
>>>>> | > | > static
>>>>> | > | > IP address costs extra. If, for example, you were to examine
>>>>> the
>>>>> | > headers
>>>>> | > | > for my posts to this newsgroup, you would usually see a
>>>>> different
>>>>> IP
>>>>> | > | > address
>>>>> | > | > on posts from different days. Each IP address would be picked
>>>>> more
>>>>> or
>>>>> | > | > less
>>>>> | > | > at random from the block assigned to the ISP. With a large IP
>>>>> like
>>>>> | > mine,
>>>>> | > | > that would be from a address space of millions. If you look
>>>>> at my
>>>>> | > posts
>>>>> | > | > with time stamps more than a few days apart the IP address is
>>>>> | > different.
>>>>> | > | > The IP address associated with your post is from the block
>>>>> assigned
>>>>> to
>>>>> | > AOL
>>>>> | > | > (172.192.0.0 - 172.216.255.255), an IP address space of just
>>>>> over
>>>>> | > | > 1,500,000.
>>>>> | > | > My current IP address is as I make this post is
>>>>> 208.187.80.135.
>>>>> If
>>>>> I
>>>>> | > | > disconnect my DSL modem, and post again, the IP address in
>>>>> that
>>>>> second
>>>>> | > | > post
>>>>> | > | > will be different. So newsgroup identities are exactly as you
>>>>> | > thought.
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | > There is no way to identify a newsgroup poster from the IP
>>>>> address
>>>>> in
>>>>> | > the
>>>>> | > | > post headers, even if the headers are completely legitimate
>>>>> without
>>>>> | > the
>>>>> | > | > cooperation of the ISP because you need the records the ISP
>>>>> keeps
>>>>> to
>>>>> | > match
>>>>> | > | > an IP address with the customer AT THE TIME THE POST WAS MADE.
>>>>> Even
>>>>> | > if
>>>>> | > | > the
>>>>> | > | > customers IP address is static, though you might assume the
>>>>> identity
>>>>> | > of
>>>>> | > | > the
>>>>> | > | > poster, you'd still need the account records. This should
>>>>> take a
>>>>> | > court
>>>>> | > | > order or a 'national security letter' these days.
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | > Some naive trolls who use different sock puppet posting names
>>>>> are
>>>>> | > exposed
>>>>> | > | > when [they post from a small ISP (because the pool of ISP
>>>>> addresses
>>>>> is
>>>>> | > | > small) or when they post from a static IP address] AND the
>>>>> style
>>>>> is
>>>>> | > | > suspiciously similar. But that is just exposure of sock
>>>>> puppets,
>>>>> NOT
>>>>> | > | > actually matching a real identity to a post.
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | > As for your original question, which I think is about Panda
>>>>> nanoscan
>>>>> | > (ALL
>>>>> | > | > the information for a newsgroup post should be in the BODY of
>>>>> the
>>>>> | > | > message -
>>>>> | > | > the 'Subject' line should be a short phrase to indicate the
>>>>> content
>>>>> of
>>>>> | > the
>>>>> | > | > message). My thoughts on Panda nanoscan: there is no
>>>>> compelling
>>>>> | > reason
>>>>> | > | > to
>>>>> | > | > try it. On the down side it is 'Beta' (may have bugs, is not
>>>>> ready
>>>>> | > for
>>>>> | > | > release, is at present for Panda's benefit, not the user's
>>>>> benefit),
>>>>> | > it
>>>>> | > | > can't be very thorough in 20 seconds, requires installing
>>>>> active-x
>>>>> | > | > controls,
>>>>> | > | > really gives no assurance that the scanned system is clean,
>>>>> and
>>>>> | > requires
>>>>> | > | > an
>>>>> | > | > active connection to the internet. On the up side, it is very
>>>>> quick.
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | > Phil Weldon
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> | > | > news:uj8F0CF0HHA.5644@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> | > | > | In-line responses
>>>>> | > | > |
>>>>> | > | > | "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> | > | > | news:OCx$NTE0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> | > | > | Sorry Dave . But I cannot comment on your request since I am
>>>>> not
>>>>> | > | > familiar
>>>>> | > | > at
>>>>> | > | > | all with the Panda software. Maybe someone will come along
>>>>> soon
>>>>> that
>>>>> | > can
>>>>> | > | > | comment on your question.
>>>>> | > | > |
>>>>> | > | > | **Thanks for your straight-forward reply, Peter. I'll wait
>>>>> | > patiently!
>>>>> | >

>>>>> | > | > |
>>>>> | > | > | As far as IP addresses go you do know that they can be
>>>>> spoofed
>>>>> and
>>>>>| > some
>>>>> | > | > | people do it .
>>>>> | > | > | You have been in a similar situation yourself when you had
>>>>> your
>>>>> ID
>>>>> | > | > stolen
>>>>> | > | > in
>>>>> | > | > | the past so you know what kind of situation it can create
>>>>> | > | > |
>>>>> | > | > | **Indeed - your memory serves you well (this time!) However,
>>>>> that
>>>>> | > does
>>>>> | > | > *not*
>>>>> | > | > | explain why posts from you here invariably have different IP
>>>>> | > addresses
>>>>> | > | > when
>>>>> | > | > | the day changes. You cannot, surely, be suggesting that when
>>>>> folk
>>>>> | > visit
>>>>> | > | > | /this/ group and see the name of Peter Foldes that it isn't
>>>>> really
>>>>> | > you?
>>>>> | > | > | People tend to see a name they trust and follow the advice
>>>>> given -
>>>>> | > how
>>>>> | > | > easy
>>>>> | > | > | it would be to mislead vulnerable folk in such a scenario.
>>>>> So I
>>>>> ask
>>>>> | > you
>>>>> | > | > once
>>>>> | > | > | again, politely., the reason for the constant change in your
>>>>> IP
>>>>> | > address.
>>>>> | > | > |
>>>>> | > | > | BD
>>>>> | > | > |
>>>>> | > | > |
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | >
>>>>> ______________________________________________________________________________________
>>>>> | > | > |
>>>>> | > | > | "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> | > | > | news:%23%23FF5pA0HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> | > | > | > Hello Peter! Thank you for the reminder.
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > It would, though, have been even more helpful had you also
>>>>> given
>>>>> | > your
>>>>> | > | > view
>>>>> | > | > | > on the new facility from Panda as I'd requested.
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > Whilst I'm here I noted that your IP address is currently
>>>>> | > | > 64.228.81.234
>>>>> | > | > | > Having checked your other posts on this group since 31
>>>>> May,
>>>>> each
>>>>> | > IP
>>>>> | > | > | > address
>>>>> | > | > | > is different (save for on 5 July when 3 replies were made
>>>>> on
>>>>> the
>>>>> | > same
>>>>> | > | > | > day).
>>>>> | > | > | > The previous training given by you - to me - suggested
>>>>> that an
>>>>> IP
>>>>> | > | > address
>>>>> | > | > | > may be used to identify a particular poster. Others
>>>>> posting
>>>>> here
>>>>> | > *do*
>>>>> | > | > | > maintain the same IP address. Will you, please, explain
>>>>> why
>>>>> yours
>>>>> | > | > changes?
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > An additional query. On a separate newsgroup, on a private
>>>>> server,
>>>>> | > the
>>>>> | > | > IP
>>>>> | > | > | > address of a poster is shown as 127.0.0.1, viz:-
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > X-Trace: dogagent.com 1185373384 26976 127.0.0.1 (25 Jul
>>>>> 2007
>>>>> | > 14:23:04
>>>>> | > | > | > GMT)
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > I'd be grateful if you, or anyone else knowledgeable on
>>>>> such
>>>>> | > matters,
>>>>> | > | > | > would
>>>>> | > | > | > comment on this. Thank you.
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > David
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > ***************************************
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> | > | > | > news:%23e7LSG$zHHA.5152@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> | > | > | > multiposted not crossposted. Even worse
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>> | > | > | > --
>>>>> | > | > | > Peter
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>>>>> | > | > | > Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be
>>>>> | > acknowledged.
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> | > | > | > news:uRDXih8zHHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> | > | > | >> Forgive the cross-post but, on reflection, I felt this
>>>>> might
>>>>> be
>>>>> a
>>>>> | > | > more
>>>>> | > | > | >> appropriate place to ask this question!
>>>>> | > | > | >>
>>>>> | > | > | >> Hi - just wondering is any of the gurus here have tried
>>>>> it
>>>>> and
>>>>> | > might
>>>>> | > | > wish
>>>>> | > | > | >> to
>>>>> | > | > | >> comment: See: http://www.nanoscan.com/
>>>>> | > | > | >>
>>>>> | > | > | >> David
>>>>> | > | > | >>
>>>>> | > | > | >>
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > |
>>>>> | > | > |
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > |
>>>>> | > |
>>>>> | >
>>>>> | >
>>>>> |
>>>>> |
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

BoaterDave · Aug 9, 2007

Hello again Li

How goes your Meditation?

Seems to me that you are a bit of a trickster yourself, eh? <G>

BD

*************************************************
"Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message
news:uWQzxFh0HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> darn it, BD.
> i'm not changing my properties but as an Admin on Annexcafe, i will inform
> everyone that you are banned from that private server also.
> you should leave these nice folks alone to help others that really need it
> and go play in your own group that Dave H. so kindly gave you.
> TrolLi
> Asst. Admin
> AdminTeam
> www.annexcafe.com
>
>
> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%236yIQIg0HHA.4236@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hello Dave
>
> I trust you haven't followed /me/ here! (were you actively seeking ME?)
> Hundreds of MS groups aren't there - HOW /did/ you find me?
>
> Perhaps your intentions are good and you are trying to help me BUT when
> you
> say " Maybe if you don't understand the nature of things like this, you
> should leave well alone?" .......... some might interpret that as a
> veiled
> threat.
>
> You may or may not know any background. This is /not/ a game. Peter Foldes
> is a totally unknown quantity, and consistently fails to answer simple,
> polite requests. That, of course, is his prerogative but it leaves much
> room
> for doubt. Additionally, the 'Peter Foldes' who has posted on the
> Annexcafe
> sites has told lies - he was adamant that I lived in North America for
> starters. If you want more background, go here:
>
> http://www.aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=26668&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
>
> When I checked a few minutes ago, this item had been read 2383 times!
> Whilst
> there really are bad guys around, I'm confident that there are far more
> good
> and honest ones. The bad guys /will/ be caught!

>
> HTH
>
> David
>
> PS Tail left deliberately this time.
>
> ******************************************************************************************
>
> "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
> news:%237B1pBe0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I see what you are driving at, David.
>> Maybe they are educated, and making educated guesses?
>> Or maybe you should look into reasons why they stretch to doing this.
>> Are you being a nuisance, making ridiculous claims, defaming or following
>> people onto other groups or servers? Those sort of things would do it.
>>
>> BTW, when you enter a server like this, or another private nntp server,
>> you are dipping into their computer, they are allowing you to that.
>> Now I know what you are thinking, can the give you a virus or infection
>> via a download or link. No doubt it is possible, but then again many
>> people would also have done the same thing as you, and would be howling
>> for blood.
>> Maybe if you don't understand the nature of things like this, you should
>> leave well alone?
>>
>> Now I run a private nntp server myself, done for just for the pleasure of
>> sharing, and knowing I can run a safe (as any can be) place, and would
>> find it insulting that you would consider myself, or any visitors, were
>> tricking you to install something. I would have to ban you for such
>> thoughts, or make it so you can't post such disruptive/paranoid things to
>> upset a community. I would also ban anyone that harmed another's
>> computer,
>> or at least prevent them from posting.
>>
>> Dave H
>>
>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:e8TIJCI0HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Phew! Thanks for all that, Phil! I really appreciate the time and
>>> trouble you have taken to respond so comprehensively.
>>>
>>> Dare I ask you for further comment? <g> I will anyway!
>>>
>>> When posting to a newsgroup on a private server, it seems that
>>> anyone/everyone can identify me, regardless of user name employed.
>>> Whilst
>>> I fully appreciate that an individual has a certain style (which can be
>>> 'fudged' - obfuscated, if you will) if the IP address changes as you say
>>> (and I believe you!) can you suggest an alternate way they can identify
>>> someone without having installed some form of 'reporting' malware on
>>> one's PC?
>>>
>>> I'd value your advice. TIA.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> ******************************************************************************************************
>
>

Troll_Lady · Aug 10, 2007

/me smiles.....
OOOHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMM
i see you have 'hacked' again, eh?
you are a bad guy.

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:OSwYV2u2HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Hello again Li

How goes your Meditation?

Seems to me that you are a bit of a trickster yourself, eh? <G>

BD

*************************************************
"Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message
news:uWQzxFh0HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> darn it, BD.
> i'm not changing my properties but as an Admin on Annexcafe, i will inform
> everyone that you are banned from that private server also.
> you should leave these nice folks alone to help others that really need it
> and go play in your own group that Dave H. so kindly gave you.
> TrolLi
> Asst. Admin
> AdminTeam
> www.annexcafe.com
>
>
> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%236yIQIg0HHA.4236@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hello Dave
>
> I trust you haven't followed /me/ here! (were you actively seeking ME?)
> Hundreds of MS groups aren't there - HOW /did/ you find me?
>
> Perhaps your intentions are good and you are trying to help me BUT when
> you
> say " Maybe if you don't understand the nature of things like this, you
> should leave well alone?" .......... some might interpret that as a
> veiled
> threat.
>
> You may or may not know any background. This is /not/ a game. Peter Foldes
> is a totally unknown quantity, and consistently fails to answer simple,
> polite requests. That, of course, is his prerogative but it leaves much
> room
> for doubt. Additionally, the 'Peter Foldes' who has posted on the
> Annexcafe
> sites has told lies - he was adamant that I lived in North America for
> starters. If you want more background, go here:
>
> http://www.aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=26668&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
>
> When I checked a few minutes ago, this item had been read 2383 times!
> Whilst
> there really are bad guys around, I'm confident that there are far more
> good
> and honest ones. The bad guys /will/ be caught!

>
> HTH
>
> David
>
> PS Tail left deliberately this time.
>
> ******************************************************************************************
>
> "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
> news:%237B1pBe0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I see what you are driving at, David.
>> Maybe they are educated, and making educated guesses?
>> Or maybe you should look into reasons why they stretch to doing this.
>> Are you being a nuisance, making ridiculous claims, defaming or following
>> people onto other groups or servers? Those sort of things would do it.
>>
>> BTW, when you enter a server like this, or another private nntp server,
>> you are dipping into their computer, they are allowing you to that.
>> Now I know what you are thinking, can the give you a virus or infection
>> via a download or link. No doubt it is possible, but then again many
>> people would also have done the same thing as you, and would be howling
>> for blood.
>> Maybe if you don't understand the nature of things like this, you should
>> leave well alone?
>>
>> Now I run a private nntp server myself, done for just for the pleasure of
>> sharing, and knowing I can run a safe (as any can be) place, and would
>> find it insulting that you would consider myself, or any visitors, were
>> tricking you to install something. I would have to ban you for such
>> thoughts, or make it so you can't post such disruptive/paranoid things to
>> upset a community. I would also ban anyone that harmed another's
>> computer,
>> or at least prevent them from posting.
>>
>> Dave H
>>
>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:e8TIJCI0HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Phew! Thanks for all that, Phil! I really appreciate the time and
>>> trouble you have taken to respond so comprehensively.
>>>
>>> Dare I ask you for further comment? <g> I will anyway!
>>>
>>> When posting to a newsgroup on a private server, it seems that
>>> anyone/everyone can identify me, regardless of user name employed.
>>> Whilst
>>> I fully appreciate that an individual has a certain style (which can be
>>> 'fudged' - obfuscated, if you will) if the IP address changes as you say
>>> (and I believe you!) can you suggest an alternate way they can identify
>>> someone without having installed some form of 'reporting' malware on
>>> one's PC?
>>>
>>> I'd value your advice. TIA.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> ******************************************************************************************************
>
>

Troll_Lady · Aug 10, 2007

Re: Action Plan!

for myself only....
i lost my Mom in early 2006. she was an active member and owner of
support.cancer on Annexcafe. she slapped me all the time.

your comment, that she should have slapped me harder was uncalled for and
downright rude.
you are not a nice man, BD. not at all. in fact, you are cruel.

i lost my Dad in late 2006, do you have some comments about him, as well?

you want your own group? go to Usenet and search around for someone to give
you an alt.boater.dave group.
search your Usenet group list for admin.

you will not get one on either AnnexCafe nor DogAgent.
those are my homes away from home. you are not welcome in either of my
homes.

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:On6DHQq2HHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Hello Dave

Taking your last sentence of your post first, you said in your message here
on 29 July at 1849 - "You are the intruder/virus/Trojan, with your
"Crusading", attacking good people". I therefore consider that there *is* a
place for me here! <g>

I will willingly make a public apology if necessary, but I cannot do so
until I have been told exactly what it is for which you wish me to
apologise. Perhaps you could start by explaining how *you* can tell the good
guys from the bad here on the Internet, especially those posting in
newsgroups. Then, perhaps, tell me which good guys I have maligned and, of
course, exactly how you *know* that they are good guys. Are you *absolutely*
sure - or just pre-supposing?

Should you prefer to take the subject matter of my quest (to identify the
bad guys) away from the public gaze here, and you are in no way affiliated
with Cybercrime and malware propergation, perhaps you will re-open a
'boater.dave' group on your server which is NOT moderated by anyone at all.
Debate and discussion could then continue in private. Some folk from /this/
group might even come over and join in any discussion which transpires,
especially when I advertise any such new group here on the Microsoft groups.

The ball is in your court.

David

***************************************************************************************

"Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
news:OoTah4n2HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> David,
> that is an old message, but you probably got my attention for the last
> time.
> Should have really ignored it.
> I can't be 'bothered' with you any more, nor can my team of 'good guys'.
> 'Them' that I gave the group to, can't be bothered either and wanted the
> group deleted, fed up with patiently explaining to you and for you keep
> maligning good people.
> Nothing less than an apology from you, which can be made public, will be
> considered.
>
> None of this has anything to do with security or virus.
>
> Dave H
>
> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:OXe1Uee2HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Now why on earth would people want to 'bother' you Dave?
>>
>> Perhaps because you gave them a newsgroup on your server ....... and then
>> removed it without notice or warning?
>> It seems to me, right now, that you are *not* the 'good guy' I had
>> (vaguely) hoped you might be.

>>
>> David
>>
>> *****************************************************************************
>> "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23SuYBGe0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> David,
>>> Occasionally I have to look for people who might cause me bother.
>>> The tool I use for identifying such persons is freeware, called My Nose.
>>> I would steer away from that newsgroup, they obviously have found
>>> something about you that has rubbed them up the wrong way.
>>>
>>> Dave H
>>>
>>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:%23RSl$MJ0HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hello again Phil - slight misunderstanding I fear!
>>>>
>>>> I'm actually using the McAfee Internet Security Suite supplied (at
>>>> extra
>>>> cost!) with my AOL (UK) subscription
>>>> + Windows Defender, AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5 and Ad-Aware 2007 - all up to
>>>> date
>>>> on Windows XP Home, SP2 and all updates.
>>>>
>>>> I was referring in my comment to those on another newsgroup who seem
>>>> adamant
>>>> that they can identify me regardless of my selected 'nick' for posting
>>>> purposes. If my IP doesn't give me away, I was wondering what other
>>>> 'spy'
>>>> might be being used to identify me.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> *************************************************************************************************
>>>> "Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@example.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uRsqi.11417$rR.9799@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>>> 'BoaterDave' wrote:
>>>>> | So it seems that they are lying - or I have malware (again!) on my
>>>>> PC!
>>>>> | Now I've got to determine which it is!
>>>>> _____
>>>>>
>>>>> No, not lying - 'Beta' is a warning label that the software may not
>>>>> work
>>>>> as
>>>>> intended. You should not depend on 'Beta' software for critical
>>>>> operations
>>>>> (and keeping your system free of malware is a critical operation.)
>>>>> And
>>>>> even
>>>>> antimalware in production can give false alerts. If you are going to
>>>>> use
>>>>> an
>>>>> on-line scan, pick one that is NOT 'beta' and that is more thorough
>>>>> than
>>>>> 'Nanoscan'. Symantec and other antimalware publishers have more
>>>>> thorough
>>>>> on-line scans
>>>>>
>>>>> As a comparison, the Symantec on-line virus scanner will scan every
>>>>> file
>>>>> on
>>>>> a system and take 20 minutes or more (fast system with > 100,000
>>>>> files)
>>>>> while 'Nanoscan' checks, on the same system in 20 seconds, well, who
>>>>> knows?
>>>>> ( I would imagine 'Nanoscan' checks memory, the registry, and whatever
>>>>> else
>>>>> it can in 20 seconds. Something like 'Nanoscan' might eventually be
>>>>> an
>>>>> quick supplement to other malware detectors, but only a minor
>>>>> supplement.
>>>>>
>>>>> What antimalware protection do you use, and is it up-to-date (an in
>>>>> either
>>>>> the very latest definitions or definitions updated within the last two
>>>>> days)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil Weldon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil Weldon
>>>>>
>>>>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eXSXPTI0HHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> | So it seems that they are lying - or I have malware (again!) on my
>>>>> PC!
>>>>> | Now I've got to determine which it is!
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Thanks for your coments, Phil.
>>>>> |
>>>>> | BD
>>>>> | ******************************************************
>>>>> | "Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>> | news:EBrqi.11448$tj6.10470@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>>> | > 'BoaterDave' wrote, in part:
>>>>> | > | When posting to a newsgroup on a private server, it seems that
>>>>> | > | anyone/everyone can identify me, regardless of user name
>>>>> employed.
>>>>> | > Whilst
>>>>> | > I
>>>>> | > | fully appreciate that an individual has a certain style (which
>>>>> can
>>>>> be
>>>>> | > | 'fudged' - obfuscated, if you will) if the IP address changes as
>>>>> you
>>>>> say
>>>>> | > | (and I believe you!) can you suggest an alternate way they can
>>>>> identify
>>>>> | > | someone without having installed some form of 'reporting'
>>>>> malware on
>>>>> | > one's
>>>>> | > | PC?
>>>>> | > _____
>>>>> | >
>>>>> | > In the USA be George W. Bush, Alberto Gonzales, or Dick Cheney,
>>>>> bribe
>>>>> the
>>>>> | > ISP, or actually get a court order B^)
>>>>> | >
>>>>> | > Phil Weldon
>>>>> | >
>>>>> | > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> | > news:e8TIJCI0HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> | > | Phew! Thanks for all that, Phil! I really appreciate the time
>>>>> and
>>>>> | > trouble
>>>>> | > | you have taken to respond so comprehensively.
>>>>> | > |
>>>>> | > | Dare I ask you for further comment? <g> I will anyway!
>>>>> | > |
>>>>> | > | When posting to a newsgroup on a private server, it seems that
>>>>> | > | anyone/everyone can identify me, regardless of user name
>>>>> employed.
>>>>> | > Whilst
>>>>> | > I
>>>>> | > | fully appreciate that an individual has a certain style (which
>>>>> can
>>>>> be
>>>>> | > | 'fudged' - obfuscated, if you will) if the IP address changes as
>>>>> you
>>>>> say
>>>>> | > | (and I believe you!) can you suggest an alternate way they can
>>>>> identify
>>>>> | > | someone without having installed some form of 'reporting'
>>>>> malware on
>>>>> | > one's
>>>>> | > | PC?
>>>>> | > |
>>>>> | > | I'd value your advice. TIA.
>>>>> | > |
>>>>> | > | David
>>>>> | > |
>>>>> | > |
>>>>> | >
>>>>> ******************************************************************************************************
>>>>> | > | "Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>> | > | news:Wwqqi.12398$Od7.11531@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>>> | > | > 'BoaterDave' wrote, in part:
>>>>> | > | > | **Indeed - your memory serves you well (this time!) However,
>>>>> that
>>>>> | > does
>>>>> | > | > *not*
>>>>> | > | > | explain why posts from you here invariably have different IP
>>>>> | > addresses
>>>>> | > | > when
>>>>> | > | > | the day changes. You cannot, surely, be suggesting that when
>>>>> folk
>>>>> | > visit
>>>>> | > | > | /this/ group and see the name of Peter Foldes that it isn't
>>>>> really
>>>>> | > you?
>>>>> | > | > | People tend to see a name they trust and follow the advice
>>>>> given -
>>>>> | > how
>>>>> | > | > easy
>>>>> | > | > | it would be to mislead vulnerable folk in such a scenario.
>>>>> So I
>>>>> ask
>>>>> | > you
>>>>> | > | > once
>>>>> | > | > | again, politely., the reason for the constant change in your
>>>>> IP
>>>>> | > address.
>>>>> | > | > _____
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | > In the main, for DSL, an IP address is assigned dynamically to
>>>>> a
>>>>> | > customer.
>>>>> | > | > Each time a system (or for some setups the modem) connects to
>>>>> the
>>>>> ISP,
>>>>> | > the
>>>>> | > | > ISP assigns a new IP address from the block allocated to the
>>>>> ISP.
>>>>> A
>>>>> | > | > static
>>>>> | > | > IP address costs extra. If, for example, you were to examine
>>>>> the
>>>>> | > headers
>>>>> | > | > for my posts to this newsgroup, you would usually see a
>>>>> different
>>>>> IP
>>>>> | > | > address
>>>>> | > | > on posts from different days. Each IP address would be picked
>>>>> more
>>>>> or
>>>>> | > | > less
>>>>> | > | > at random from the block assigned to the ISP. With a large IP
>>>>> like
>>>>> | > mine,
>>>>> | > | > that would be from a address space of millions. If you look
>>>>> at my
>>>>> | > posts
>>>>> | > | > with time stamps more than a few days apart the IP address is
>>>>> | > different.
>>>>> | > | > The IP address associated with your post is from the block
>>>>> assigned
>>>>> to
>>>>> | > AOL
>>>>> | > | > (172.192.0.0 - 172.216.255.255), an IP address space of just
>>>>> over
>>>>> | > | > 1,500,000.
>>>>> | > | > My current IP address is as I make this post is
>>>>> 208.187.80.135.
>>>>> If
>>>>> I
>>>>> | > | > disconnect my DSL modem, and post again, the IP address in
>>>>> that
>>>>> second
>>>>> | > | > post
>>>>> | > | > will be different. So newsgroup identities are exactly as you
>>>>> | > thought.
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | > There is no way to identify a newsgroup poster from the IP
>>>>> address
>>>>> in
>>>>> | > the
>>>>> | > | > post headers, even if the headers are completely legitimate
>>>>> without
>>>>> | > the
>>>>> | > | > cooperation of the ISP because you need the records the ISP
>>>>> keeps
>>>>> to
>>>>> | > match
>>>>> | > | > an IP address with the customer AT THE TIME THE POST WAS MADE.
>>>>> Even
>>>>> | > if
>>>>> | > | > the
>>>>> | > | > customers IP address is static, though you might assume the
>>>>> identity
>>>>> | > of
>>>>> | > | > the
>>>>> | > | > poster, you'd still need the account records. This should
>>>>> take a
>>>>> | > court
>>>>> | > | > order or a 'national security letter' these days.
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | > Some naive trolls who use different sock puppet posting names
>>>>> are
>>>>> | > exposed
>>>>> | > | > when [they post from a small ISP (because the pool of ISP
>>>>> addresses
>>>>> is
>>>>> | > | > small) or when they post from a static IP address] AND the
>>>>> style
>>>>> is
>>>>> | > | > suspiciously similar. But that is just exposure of sock
>>>>> puppets,
>>>>> NOT
>>>>> | > | > actually matching a real identity to a post.
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | > As for your original question, which I think is about Panda
>>>>> nanoscan
>>>>> | > (ALL
>>>>> | > | > the information for a newsgroup post should be in the BODY of
>>>>> the
>>>>> | > | > message -
>>>>> | > | > the 'Subject' line should be a short phrase to indicate the
>>>>> content
>>>>> of
>>>>> | > the
>>>>> | > | > message). My thoughts on Panda nanoscan: there is no
>>>>> compelling
>>>>> | > reason
>>>>> | > | > to
>>>>> | > | > try it. On the down side it is 'Beta' (may have bugs, is not
>>>>> ready
>>>>> | > for
>>>>> | > | > release, is at present for Panda's benefit, not the user's
>>>>> benefit),
>>>>> | > it
>>>>> | > | > can't be very thorough in 20 seconds, requires installing
>>>>> active-x
>>>>> | > | > controls,
>>>>> | > | > really gives no assurance that the scanned system is clean,
>>>>> and
>>>>> | > requires
>>>>> | > | > an
>>>>> | > | > active connection to the internet. On the up side, it is very
>>>>> quick.
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | > Phil Weldon
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> | > | > news:uj8F0CF0HHA.5644@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> | > | > | In-line responses
>>>>> | > | > |
>>>>> | > | > | "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> | > | > | news:OCx$NTE0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> | > | > | Sorry Dave . But I cannot comment on your request since I am
>>>>> not
>>>>> | > | > familiar
>>>>> | > | > at
>>>>> | > | > | all with the Panda software. Maybe someone will come along
>>>>> soon
>>>>> that
>>>>> | > can
>>>>> | > | > | comment on your question.
>>>>> | > | > |
>>>>> | > | > | **Thanks for your straight-forward reply, Peter. I'll wait
>>>>> | > patiently!
>>>>> | >

>>>>> | > | > |
>>>>> | > | > | As far as IP addresses go you do know that they can be
>>>>> spoofed
>>>>> and
>>>>>| > some
>>>>> | > | > | people do it .
>>>>> | > | > | You have been in a similar situation yourself when you had
>>>>> your
>>>>> ID
>>>>> | > | > stolen
>>>>> | > | > in
>>>>> | > | > | the past so you know what kind of situation it can create
>>>>> | > | > |
>>>>> | > | > | **Indeed - your memory serves you well (this time!) However,
>>>>> that
>>>>> | > does
>>>>> | > | > *not*
>>>>> | > | > | explain why posts from you here invariably have different IP
>>>>> | > addresses
>>>>> | > | > when
>>>>> | > | > | the day changes. You cannot, surely, be suggesting that when
>>>>> folk
>>>>> | > visit
>>>>> | > | > | /this/ group and see the name of Peter Foldes that it isn't
>>>>> really
>>>>> | > you?
>>>>> | > | > | People tend to see a name they trust and follow the advice
>>>>> given -
>>>>> | > how
>>>>> | > | > easy
>>>>> | > | > | it would be to mislead vulnerable folk in such a scenario.
>>>>> So I
>>>>> ask
>>>>> | > you
>>>>> | > | > once
>>>>> | > | > | again, politely., the reason for the constant change in your
>>>>> IP
>>>>> | > address.
>>>>> | > | > |
>>>>> | > | > | BD
>>>>> | > | > |
>>>>> | > | > |
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | >
>>>>> ______________________________________________________________________________________
>>>>> | > | > |
>>>>> | > | > | "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> | > | > | news:%23%23FF5pA0HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> | > | > | > Hello Peter! Thank you for the reminder.
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > It would, though, have been even more helpful had you also
>>>>> given
>>>>> | > your
>>>>> | > | > view
>>>>> | > | > | > on the new facility from Panda as I'd requested.
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > Whilst I'm here I noted that your IP address is currently
>>>>> | > | > 64.228.81.234
>>>>> | > | > | > Having checked your other posts on this group since 31
>>>>> May,
>>>>> each
>>>>> | > IP
>>>>> | > | > | > address
>>>>> | > | > | > is different (save for on 5 July when 3 replies were made
>>>>> on
>>>>> the
>>>>> | > same
>>>>> | > | > | > day).
>>>>> | > | > | > The previous training given by you - to me - suggested
>>>>> that an
>>>>> IP
>>>>> | > | > address
>>>>> | > | > | > may be used to identify a particular poster. Others
>>>>> posting
>>>>> here
>>>>> | > *do*
>>>>> | > | > | > maintain the same IP address. Will you, please, explain
>>>>> why
>>>>> yours
>>>>> | > | > changes?
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > An additional query. On a separate newsgroup, on a private
>>>>> server,
>>>>> | > the
>>>>> | > | > IP
>>>>> | > | > | > address of a poster is shown as 127.0.0.1, viz:-
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > X-Trace: dogagent.com 1185373384 26976 127.0.0.1 (25 Jul
>>>>> 2007
>>>>> | > 14:23:04
>>>>> | > | > | > GMT)
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > I'd be grateful if you, or anyone else knowledgeable on
>>>>> such
>>>>> | > matters,
>>>>> | > | > | > would
>>>>> | > | > | > comment on this. Thank you.
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > David
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > ***************************************
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> | > | > | > news:%23e7LSG$zHHA.5152@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> | > | > | > multiposted not crossposted. Even worse
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>> | > | > | > --
>>>>> | > | > | > Peter
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>>>>> | > | > | > Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be
>>>>> | > acknowledged.
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> | > | > | > news:uRDXih8zHHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> | > | > | >> Forgive the cross-post but, on reflection, I felt this
>>>>> might
>>>>> be
>>>>> a
>>>>> | > | > more
>>>>> | > | > | >> appropriate place to ask this question!
>>>>> | > | > | >>
>>>>> | > | > | >> Hi - just wondering is any of the gurus here have tried
>>>>> it
>>>>> and
>>>>> | > might
>>>>> | > | > wish
>>>>> | > | > | >> to
>>>>> | > | > | >> comment: See: http://www.nanoscan.com/
>>>>> | > | > | >>
>>>>> | > | > | >> David
>>>>> | > | > | >>
>>>>> | > | > | >>
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > | >
>>>>> | > | > |
>>>>> | > | > |
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > |
>>>>> | > |
>>>>> | >
>>>>> | >
>>>>> |
>>>>> |
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

MrSlartybartfast · Aug 11, 2007

After suffering through reading this thread I cannot help but to say how
astounded I am. BoaterDave You need to be ashamed.

I do not know if this newsgroup is moderated, so I take it upon myself to
say, "Your harassment is not wanted here". You are a nuisance. Contribute
to the community or Go Away. Do not clog up the newsgroup with your
conspiracy theories. Do not attack the creditability of the other members.
Do not hijack other people's topics to continue this personal vendetta you
have against Peter Foldes.

The choice is yours. Should you choose to stay I would expect you to
apologise at least to Peter Foldes for the libelous things you have said.
Otherwise go back to AUMHA or wherever it is you belong.

To help you distuinguish between the 'good guys' and the 'bad guys' on the
internet here is some advice. Look in the mirror, think about what you have
written here over the past fortnight, and ask yourself, "Am I one of the
'good guys'?" The 'good guys' contribute to the internet, making it a better
place. The 'bad guys' exploit it for their own personal gain. So which one
are you? [rhetorical]

Do not ask for a further response from me. I do not normally respond to
trolls except for in this extreme circumstance, the worst internet manner I
have ever seen.

BoaterDave · Aug 11, 2007

Calling on a Guru to explain if I'm mistaken!

Well - another concern for me here - IP address of this poster.

I'm willing to learn if I really have misunderstood matters, but I'm fairly
certain that all *genuine* IP's /should/ have a PTR record.

Help and advice welcomed. TIA.

David

____________________________________________________________________________________________________
Reverse DNS for 10.40.244.148
Generated by www.DNSstuff.com
When the server was last reloaded, we had 107052 IP addresses banned.
Remember, you are not allowed to use automated programs to access our tools,
unless you have a purchased a DNSstuff automated usage plan.
Please email sales@dnsstuff.com to learn more.

Location: Unknown

Preparation:
The reverse DNS entry for an IP is found by reversing the IP, adding it to
"in-addr.arpa", and looking up the PTR record.
So, the reverse DNS entry for 10.40.244.148 is found by looking up the PTR
record for
148.244.40.10.in-addr.arpa.
All DNS requests start by asking the root servers, and they let us know what
to do next.
See How Reverse DNS Lookups Work for more information.

How I am searching:
Asking b.root-servers.net for 148.244.40.10.in-addr.arpa PTR record:
b.root-servers.net says to go to blackhole-1.iana.org. (zone:
10.in-addr.arpa.)
Asking blackhole-1.iana.org. for 148.244.40.10.in-addr.arpa PTR record:
Reports that no PTR records exist [from 192.175.48.6].

Answer:
No PTR records exist for 10.40.244.148. [Neg TTL=604800 seconds]

"MrSlartybartfast" <MrSlartybartfast@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:78A7DAA6-660C-431A-BEC6-A84A3E874D13@microsoft.com...

<sni

MrSlartybartfast · Aug 11, 2007

RE: Calling on a Guru to explain if I'm mistaken!

You do not get my IP address because I do not use an email client to post in
the newsgroup, I post through my web browser.

If you enter that IP address into a google search, you would see from the
results it is the IP address of the Microsoft Public Newsgroups.

Enlighten yourself. Follow this link to the Microsoft Public Forums, then
you too will not show your IP address when you post through your web browser.
http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...b85-5bde-4e6f-b9f4-c199b934c707&lang=en&cr=US

You are now aware of dynamic IP addresses. You are aware that the IP is
changed when posting through a web browser. Now will you please call of the
assault. I do not believe anyone appreciates your suspicious accusations.

In reply to your original post regarding http://www.nanoscan.com/, I would
never use any online virus scanner unless it was first recommended to me by
many well known and trusted software review sites. In fact, I would never
use any antivirus at all, I view antivirus software as more of a hassle than
they are worth. If I get a virus I will delete my hard drive and reinstall
windows. I do not care if a hacker steals my information, I have nothing of
value to steal.

The End.

BoaterDave · Aug 11, 2007

Re: Calling on a Guru to explain if I'm mistaken!

Well - I'm so sorry Mr Slartybartfast. Do you know, the link you so kindly
provided took me right back to the place where I started my enquiries more
than 18 months ago! At that time I actually used my real email address until
I was advised not to do so. My take is that the posters there (and here) are
highly vulnerable and easy prey for some.

If you are going to criticise me, please make sure you are 100% correct
yourself.
You said ...... "Now will you please call of the assault". I belive you
meant 'call *off'* .......... '

How's this for a suitable recommendation?
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28091

Your approach is, if nothing else, quite novel! <g>

A question. If you get a virus or similar on a partitioned hard disk (to
give you, say, a C: and a D: drive) if you wipe C: and re-install windows
there, are you sure that any malware on D: cannot re-emerge and infect the
C: drive once again (perhaps without your knowledge)?

Similarly, if you take a 'snapshot' of your PC, with Norton Ghost for
example, would not any virus/malware be captured too? (and then
re-introduced)

Always wondering! <g>

David

*********************************************************************************************************************

"MrSlartybartfast" <MrSlartybartfast@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:6407A561-5B1B-4F9A-944D-71B1C3467F0C@microsoft.com...
> You do not get my IP address because I do not use an email client to post
> in
> the newsgroup, I post through my web browser.
>
> If you enter that IP address into a google search, you would see from the
> results it is the IP address of the Microsoft Public Newsgroups.
>
> Enlighten yourself. Follow this link to the Microsoft Public Forums, then
> you too will not show your IP address when you post through your web
> browser.
> http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...b85-5bde-4e6f-b9f4-c199b934c707&lang=en&cr=US
>
> You are now aware of dynamic IP addresses. You are aware that the IP is
> changed when posting through a web browser. Now will you please call of
> the
> assault. I do not believe anyone appreciates your suspicious accusations.
>
> In reply to your original post regarding http://www.nanoscan.com/, I would
> never use any online virus scanner unless it was first recommended to me
> by
> many well known and trusted software review sites. In fact, I would never
> use any antivirus at all, I view antivirus software as more of a hassle
> than
> they are worth. If I get a virus I will delete my hard drive and
> reinstall
> windows. I do not care if a hacker steals my information, I have nothing
> of
> value to steal.
>
> The End.

BoaterDave · Aug 11, 2007

Re: Action Plan!

Hi Li

So sorry to hear about the loss of your parents.

Perhaps you will explain, though, why you have come here to harrass me.

My understanding is that Dave H. runs the server(s) at Dogagent.com. Surely
he is not beholden to you. Perhaps you are responding on Dave's behalf - are
you? Can he not fend for himself? I didn't ask for a newsgroup of my own,
neither do I want one. It was provided simply so that you might try to
malign and bait me, a skill which you have obviously developed over many
years. Perhaps, even, to incapacitate my PC as was done last year.

I have been called many things, Li - but cruel is one I cannot recall having
been attributed to me. I love people and animals and do my very best to help
others every day. I sleep peacefully in my bed each night, knowing that 'the
bad guys' will, eventually, be caught. How well do you sleep, Li?

David

************************************************************************************
"Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message
news:uNqlPg02HHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> for myself only....
> i lost my Mom in early 2006. she was an active member and owner of
> support.cancer on Annexcafe. she slapped me all the time.
>
> your comment, that she should have slapped me harder was uncalled for and
> downright rude.
> you are not a nice man, BD. not at all. in fact, you are cruel.
>
> i lost my Dad in late 2006, do you have some comments about him, as well?
>
> you want your own group? go to Usenet and search around for someone to
> give
> you an alt.boater.dave group.
> search your Usenet group list for admin.
>
> you will not get one on either AnnexCafe nor DogAgent.
> those are my homes away from home. you are not welcome in either of my
> homes.
>
>
> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:On6DHQq2HHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hello Dave
>
> Taking your last sentence of your post first, you said in your message
> here
> on 29 July at 1849 - "You are the intruder/virus/Trojan, with your
> "Crusading", attacking good people". I therefore consider that there *is*
> a
> place for me here! <g>
>
> I will willingly make a public apology if necessary, but I cannot do so
> until I have been told exactly what it is for which you wish me to
> apologise. Perhaps you could start by explaining how *you* can tell the
> good
> guys from the bad here on the Internet, especially those posting in
> newsgroups. Then, perhaps, tell me which good guys I have maligned and, of
> course, exactly how you *know* that they are good guys. Are you
> *absolutely*
> sure - or just pre-supposing?
>
> Should you prefer to take the subject matter of my quest (to identify the
> bad guys) away from the public gaze here, and you are in no way affiliated
> with Cybercrime and malware propergation, perhaps you will re-open a
> 'boater.dave' group on your server which is NOT moderated by anyone at
> all.
> Debate and discussion could then continue in private. Some folk from
> /this/
> group might even come over and join in any discussion which transpires,
> especially when I advertise any such new group here on the Microsoft
> groups.
>
> The ball is in your court.
>
> David

<snip>

BoaterDavesEvilTwin · Aug 11, 2007

Re: Calling on a Guru to explain if I'm mistaken!

If you are going to criticize those who criticize you, please make sure YOU are 100% correct!

Mr should have a period after it (as in Mr.). Criticise is misspelled (criticize is correct). Belive is misspelled (believe is correct). (and then re-introduced) should be before the ? mark.

What makes you think you're qualified to correct other peoples grammar and spelling with mistakes like these? You appear to be as good at that as you are at identifying the good guys from the bad guys.

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:u%23xpaPG3HHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Well - I'm so sorry Mr Slartybartfast. Do you know, the link you so kindly
provided took me right back to the place where I started my enquiries more
than 18 months ago! At that time I actually used my real email address until
I was advised not to do so. My take is that the posters there (and here) are
highly vulnerable and easy prey for some.

If you are going to criticise me, please make sure you are 100% correct
yourself.
You said ...... "Now will you please call of the assault". I belive you
meant 'call *off'* .......... '

How's this for a suitable recommendation?
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28091

Your approach is, if nothing else, quite novel! <g>

A question. If you get a virus or similar on a partitioned hard disk (to
give you, say, a C: and a D: drive) if you wipe C: and re-install windows
there, are you sure that any malware on D: cannot re-emerge and infect the
C: drive once again (perhaps without your knowledge)?

Similarly, if you take a 'snapshot' of your PC, with Norton Ghost for
example, would not any virus/malware be captured too? (and then
re-introduced)

Always wondering! <g>

David

*********************************************************************************************************************

"MrSlartybartfast" <MrSlartybartfast@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:6407A561-5B1B-4F9A-944D-71B1C3467F0C@microsoft.com...
> You do not get my IP address because I do not use an email client to post
> in
> the newsgroup, I post through my web browser.
>
> If you enter that IP address into a google search, you would see from the
> results it is the IP address of the Microsoft Public Newsgroups.
>
> Enlighten yourself. Follow this link to the Microsoft Public Forums, then
> you too will not show your IP address when you post through your web
> browser.
> http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...b85-5bde-4e6f-b9f4-c199b934c707&lang=en&cr=US
>
> You are now aware of dynamic IP addresses. You are aware that the IP is
> changed when posting through a web browser. Now will you please call of
> the
> assault. I do not believe anyone appreciates your suspicious accusations.
>
> In reply to your original post regarding http://www.nanoscan.com/, I would
> never use any online virus scanner unless it was first recommended to me
> by
> many well known and trusted software review sites. In fact, I would never
> use any antivirus at all, I view antivirus software as more of a hassle
> than
> they are worth. If I get a virus I will delete my hard drive and
> reinstall
> windows. I do not care if a hacker steals my information, I have nothing
> of
> value to steal.
>
> The End.

antioch · Aug 11, 2007

Re: Calling on a Guru to explain if I'm mistaken!

"BoaterDavesEvilTwin" <boaterdave@idiotville.info> wrote in message
news:etZx1pG3HHA.5852@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
If you are going to criticize those who criticize you, please make sure YOU
are 100% correct!

Mr should have a period after it (as in Mr.). Criticise is misspelled
(criticize is correct). Belive is misspelled (believe is correct). (and
then re-introduced) should be before the ? mark.

BD
For your edification -
Criticise is correctly 'spelt'

as in proper English English, as is
'caponise' which, no doubt, many would like to see happen to the pair of
you.
Why cannot you both go peddle your pedantry in a chat room?
Antioch

BoaterDavesEvilTwin · Aug 11, 2007

Re: Calling on a Guru to explain if I'm mistaken!

Your large vocabulary is impressive, antioch. I hope it serves you well as BD drives the knowledgeable people from the group with his forthcoming non-stop questioning of every piece of advice posted and his claims that people are not what they seem to be simply because they will not divulge personal information about themselves. I'm done responding to him. Not because of your comments, but because he simply isn't worth it.

"antioch" <antioch@home.com> wrote in message news:eRRYn5G3HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

"BoaterDavesEvilTwin" <boaterdave@idiotville.info> wrote in message
news:etZx1pG3HHA.5852@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
If you are going to criticize those who criticize you, please make sure YOU
are 100% correct!

Mr should have a period after it (as in Mr.). Criticise is misspelled
(criticize is correct). Belive is misspelled (believe is correct). (and
then re-introduced) should be before the ? mark.

BD
For your edification -
Criticise is correctly 'spelt'

as in proper English English, as is
'caponise' which, no doubt, many would like to see happen to the pair of
you.
Why cannot you both go peddle your pedantry in a chat room?
Antioch

BoaterDave · Aug 12, 2007

Re: Calling on a Guru to explain if I'm mistaken!

I'll try to answer. I believe that these MS newsgroups (hundreds of them)
are used as a source for finding some of the most vulnerable of Internet
users.

When I have established that Peter Foldes is *not* involved in malicious
practices, then I'll go from here. I cannot prevent others posting.

It would also help is folk answered my questions!

David

***********************************************************************************
"antioch" <antioch@home.com> wrote in message
news:eRRYn5G3HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Why cannot you both go peddle your pedantry in a chat room?
> Antioch

MrSlartybartfast · Aug 12, 2007

Re: Calling on a Guru to explain if I'm mistaken!

Yes, creating an image of a hard drive which has malware would include the
malware in the image. When copying this image back to the hard drive, the
malware would also be copied back resulting in net gain of zero. When I
reinstall Windows, I reinstall off the original DVD which has no malware,
unless you call Windows itself malware

If the malware is on drive D:\ then it possibly could be reactivated on to
drive C:\. You normally need to access the files on D:\ to reactivate the
malware.

No antivirus is perfect either, antivirus programs can often miss finding
some malware. I tend to find antivirus programs clunky and annoying and
prefer not to use them.

On my D:\ I compress my files individually which makes it hard for malware
to emerge. I also back up my D:\ drive onto DVD's, sometimes malware also
finds its way onto these backups but not often. Then I wipe D:\ and C:\
using killdisk before installing Windows again. It is a painful process and
takes a few hours so I do not do this very often. I do find this much
easier than trying to live with an antivirus program installed. My choice is
not for everyone, as I said before I have no valuable information stored on
my PC, I do not own a credit card and do not use internet banking. If I have
malware then I can live with it.

The AUMHA forum you linked to as a recommendation for Nanoscan and Totalscan
does nothing for me, it is hardly a review. Panda Software is well known, so
this is not one of the fake virus scans which is on the web. Out of
curiosity I started to run it anyway, I did not continue since I do not yet
fully understand the software and am not prepared to install the files on my
PC. You may use this if you wish but it is not for me.

For the record, criticising spelling and punctuation is only argumentative,
it achieves nothing other than to take the discussion off the topic.
Criticise(UK) and Criticize(US) is the same word. I misspelled off[of] and
am sorry, you still understand the meaning so it's no big deal.

I am not liking posting in this topic. It is a haven for trolls, which
maybe I am one also. I gave you my opinion of the software and also of my
antivirus usage, there is nothing left for me to say. I do hope you give up
on your conspiracy theory soon, when I look at the posts of Peter Foldes I
find them to be all helpful, for me at least this is enough reason to
consider him as a good person.

The bots which harvest email addresses off the internet are just that, bots.
They scour the entire internet, not just microsoft newsgroups. To be safe,
never use your real name, never give your address, phone number or contact
details, create temporary email accounts to use to sign up to forums and
newsgroups,
For further details, contact me at:

Ralph Slartybartfast
123 Fake St
Fakeville, West Australia, 6018
ph: 61+ 08 91318188
email: ulickdogsbutts@hotmail.com

BoaterDave · Aug 12, 2007

Re: Calling on a Guru to explain if I'm mistaken!

Thank you for your oft amusing and helpful post. In turn, I apologise for
nit-picking spelling errors, but I was unsure of your credibility with a
user name such as yours!

I have become quite adept at re-installing
Windows over the last 18 months and, like you, have nothing of value on this
PC. I've tried lots of different anti-virus programmes, on-line scanners and
security suites and do now better understand the dreadful problem of
'malware'.

Everything Peter Foldes has said with regard to correcting errors - on the
MS groups - has seemed to work for me too. I just wish he would
categorically state that he has *not* been posting on the Annexcafe.com
newsgroups. I am now aware that it is possible to 'fake' IP addresses, so it
seems feasible that whoever has posted on the user2user newsgroups as Peter
Foldes *could*, in fact, have been an imposter, simply using the same
posting style. It might, in fact, not be one individual at all - a team of
people could be invoved. I noticed that answers from the 'Peter Foldes' of
A/C were issued at any time, day or night, and I did question when 'he'
might sleep! <g>

I do now understand about Botnets. I am also aware that individuals from
Annexcafe scour the Microsoft newsgroups personally. I wonder just why they
do so.
Not to provide helpful advice to the unwary, I'm convinced of that! As I've
said elsewhere, 'the truth will out'!

Thanks for taking the time and trouble to reply at length. It is
appreciated. I have already actioned just about all the precautions you
mentioned, but I fear it is somewhat too late - Google knows all!

BD

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"MrSlartybartfast" <MrSlartybartfast@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:7F5ED3B4-4808-4A89-BD0A-0B2ADD8B810E@microsoft.com...
> Yes, creating an image of a hard drive which has malware would include the
> malware in the image. When copying this image back to the hard drive, the
> malware would also be copied back resulting in net gain of zero. When I
> reinstall Windows, I reinstall off the original DVD which has no malware,
> unless you call Windows itself malware

>
> If the malware is on drive D:\ then it possibly could be reactivated on to
> drive C:\. You normally need to access the files on D:\ to reactivate the
> malware.
>
> No antivirus is perfect either, antivirus programs can often miss finding
> some malware. I tend to find antivirus programs clunky and annoying and
> prefer not to use them.
>
> On my D:\ I compress my files individually which makes it hard for malware
> to emerge. I also back up my D:\ drive onto DVD's, sometimes malware also
> finds its way onto these backups but not often. Then I wipe D:\ and C:\
> using killdisk before installing Windows again. It is a painful process
> and
> takes a few hours so I do not do this very often. I do find this much
> easier than trying to live with an antivirus program installed. My choice
> is
> not for everyone, as I said before I have no valuable information stored
> on
> my PC, I do not own a credit card and do not use internet banking. If I
> have
> malware then I can live with it.
>
> The AUMHA forum you linked to as a recommendation for Nanoscan and
> Totalscan
> does nothing for me, it is hardly a review. Panda Software is well known,
> so
> this is not one of the fake virus scans which is on the web. Out of
> curiosity I started to run it anyway, I did not continue since I do not
> yet
> fully understand the software and am not prepared to install the files on
> my
> PC. You may use this if you wish but it is not for me.
>
> For the record, criticising spelling and punctuation is only
> argumentative,
> it achieves nothing other than to take the discussion off the topic.
> Criticise(UK) and Criticize(US) is the same word. I misspelled off[of]
> and
> am sorry, you still understand the meaning so it's no big deal.
>
> I am not liking posting in this topic. It is a haven for trolls, which
> maybe I am one also. I gave you my opinion of the software and also of my
> antivirus usage, there is nothing left for me to say. I do hope you give
> up
> on your conspiracy theory soon, when I look at the posts of Peter Foldes I
> find them to be all helpful, for me at least this is enough reason to
> consider him as a good person.
>
> The bots which harvest email addresses off the internet are just that,
> bots.
> They scour the entire internet, not just microsoft newsgroups. To be
> safe,
> never use your real name, never give your address, phone number or contact
> details, create temporary email accounts to use to sign up to forums and
> newsgroups,
> For further details, contact me at:
>
> Ralph Slartybartfast
> 123 Fake St
> Fakeville, West Australia, 6018
> ph: 61+ 08 91318188
> email: ulickdogsbutts@hotmail.com

BoaterDave · Aug 12, 2007

Re: Calling on a Guru to explain if I'm mistaken!

I apologise for yet another mistake in my post of this morning (I said
"...help is folk ..." instead of " ...help IF folk ..." )

Perhaps you will take note of my recent post to Mr.Slartybartfast and,
maybe, repond with your thoughts 'antoch'. I have no arguement with you.

BD

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