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Gary S. Terhune
Well, if it seems to run OK, it's time to leave it alone. Yes, Device
Manager isn't neat and tidy like you'd want, but a less than perfect DM is
actually pretty common.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com
"Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:OHQz12NfIHA.4608@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> See comments below:
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:OqRi97MfIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Unsigned, signed, no diff, really.
>>
>> Let's see if we can go over this one more time:
>> You have a video adapter with dual monitor capability, but only one
> monitor.
>> Is that correct? Is it a new adapter?
>
> I've had the video adapter (ATI 9200 Radeon) quite some time, the
> Viewsonic
> VP930b monitor was new to the system. I have updated the drivers for the
> video adapter on several occassions.
>
>> Or is the monitor (NOT "display") that's new and you are having a
> difficult
>> time getting it right?
>
> The supplied Win98 drivers on the CD-ROM would not install. I downloaded
> the Unsigned driver pack from Viewsonic site, and the Monitor picked up
> drivers on it's own. An unknown device was detected on the video adapter
> and a Default Monitor was also installed.
>
>> Have you removed ALL monitors and ALL video adapters? and then
> reinstalled?,
>> adapter first?
>
> Yes I've removed all monitors & adapters in device manager and then
> rebooted, but everything stays the same.
>
>> If this is a dual monitor adapter, have you looked in the instructions to
>> see if there's a way to turn it back into a single-monitor adapter?
>
> I have set the video adapter to dingle display mode.
>
>> Did you try the first three replies to your post?
>
> Yes, if you are asking if I disabled the Default Monitor
>
>> It is NOT unusual to see Default Monitor installed alongside the more up
> to
>> date drivers --- I sometimes wonder if it isn't NEEDED for certain types
> of
>> installations.
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:OzQq8yMfIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> > Yes, everything looks good except the Device Manager and it's ugly
>> > behaviour
>> > with the ICM and the extra Default Monitor attached to the video
> adapter.
>> > I
>> > think I've exhausted any doubt that it can not get any better with
> Windows
>> > 98SE. I guess that's to be expected with unsigned drivers, which is
>> > all
>> > that is available for Windows 98SE..
>> >
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> > news:uEPAKFMfIHA.6136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> Warren,
>> >>
>> >> Does your monitor look right? Does it behave properly. Anything wrong
>> >> that
>> >> you can describe (or even anything wrong that you can't put your
>> >> finger
>> > on?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >>
>> >> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:efjA9zseIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Your comments are interesting but I don't understand what you want
>> >> > me
>> >> > to
>> >> > do
>> >> > in order to completly remove the monitors. I've been trying and I
> amm
>> >> > confused as to why I'm at Monitor_16 or whatever. Do you have any
>> >> > specific
>> >> > instructions on how to delete monitors properly ?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>> >> >
>> >
> news:0de89406-5ce7-4a51-b56b-3d65c765844e@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>> >> > On Feb 27, 10:04 pm, "Warren" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >> >> I swapped drivers, it was kind of scary, but it came back. The only
>> > thing
>> >> > I
>> >> >> didn't do was reboot in between changes. Does that matter ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> >> >>
>> >> >> news:%23MRE$8beIHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > | "Warren" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > |news:eaekKAPeIHA.4464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > |> See comments below: $$$
>> >> >> > |>
>> >> >> > |> "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> > |>news:%23AFw64MeIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > |> > Warren wrote:
>> >> >> > |> > | Thanks PCR,that solved the problem perfectly. Good fix.
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > You are welcome. So... on Brian A.'s head & 1/3 the blame
> going
>> > to
>> >> >> > |> > Badour... go on and R-Clk that monster VS080114_I19.inf, &
>> > select
>> >> >> > |> > "Install".
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > (1) What happened?
>> >> >> > |> > (There's a chance you get no feedback.)
>> >> >> > |> > But do you still have both a Default Monitor & the
>> >> >> > |> > ViewSonic VP930 Series showing in Device Manager?
>> >> >> > |>
>> >> >> > |> $$$ They are still both there
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Uhuh.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |> > (2) Do this again...
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > (a) Boot to Safe Mode
>> >> >> > |> > (Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
>> >> >> > |> > (b) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System,
>> >> >> > |> > Device Manager tab"
>> >> >> > |> > (c) Open the Monitors branch,
>> >> >> > |> > & Remove all entries under it.
>> >> >> > |> > (d) Boot to Normal Mode.
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > Is the ViewSonic VP930 Series monitor rediscovered &
>> >> >> > |> > installed? Did the Default Monitor disappear?
>> >> >> > |>
>> >> >> > |> $$$ Unfortunately it picked both monitors upagain
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > That's the procedure that really should be working for this!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |> > (3) "Control Panel, Display, Settings tab, Advanced button,
>> >> >> > |> > Monitor tab"
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > (a) What monitor is stated by the monitor icon?
>> >> >> > |> > (You should see ViewSonic VP930 Series.)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > You didn't answer. You did see that there?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |> > (b) Click the Change button, & the Next button.
>> >> >> > |> > (c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
>> >> >> > |> > Does ViewSonic VP930 Series show in the Models box?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Same here.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |> > (d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
>> >> >> > |> > Examine the two panes to see what is currently
>> >> >> > |> > installed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > At this point, did Windows rebuild its "driver information
>> >> >> > database"?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |> > In the left (Manufacturers) pane, you should see ViewSonic,
>> >> >> > &
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > |> > the right (Models) pane, you should see ViewSonic VP930
> Series
>> >> >> > |> > selected & highlighted.
>> >> >> > |>
>> >> >> > |> $$$ It is just highlighting the first Viewsonic monitor in the
>> >> >> > |> driver list "OPTIQUEST 1000S"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Uhuh. That's the top one, & is the one mine points to when I
>> >> >> > click
>> >> >> > ViewSonic in the left pane. Yours should be pointing at the
>> >> >> > VP930,
>> >> >> > because that was installed! That's what normally happens at that
>> >> >> > requestor!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > We have to try Registry deletes again, I guess. I'll post it
>> > elsewhere
>> >> >> > in this thread. Maybe try removing the adapter first.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Warren wrote:
>> >> >> > | One thought I've had is that the Device Manager may be
>> >> >> > insisting
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > | building a second monitor is because the video adapter has
>> > provision
>> >> >> > | for two monitors. I have set the video card for having only one
>> >> >> > | monitor, but maybe the Device Manager doesn't look at this
> setting
>> > on
>> >> >> > | the video adapter ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Where do you see a setting for that? Here is how to remove the
>> > Adapter,
>> >> >> > as I posted elsewhere, (but it's something I, myself, might be a
> tad
>> >> >> > fearful to do)...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Important: At the point below where you "bolt
>> >> >> > 'Show all hardware'", ensure you copy down what is in the left &
>> > right
>> >> >> > panes. Then, if you have no other way to get back your current
>> > display
>> >> >> > adapter, you may go back into that screen to select it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > ......Quote..........
>> >> >> > The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have
>> >> >> > installed. Right-click on the desktop choose "Properties" from
> the
>> >> >> > drop-down menu select "Settings" click on the "Advanced"
>> >> >> > button
>> > and
>> >> >> > click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that tells Windows
>> >> >> > how
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > deal with a specific video card. Make note of the adapter that is
>> >> >> > currently installed. Then, change the adapter to "Standard
>> >> >> > Display
>> >> >> > Adapter (VGA)" and restart the system.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > [That is: Click "Change button, Next, bolt 'Display a List...',
>> >> >> > Next,
>> >> >> > bolt 'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select
> '(Standard
>> >> >> > display types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter (VGA)' in right
>> > pane,
>> >> >> > click 'Next'"... PCR]
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a
>> >> >> > generic
>> > VGA
>> >> >> > adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like VGA
>> > because
>> >> >> > it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of installing it is
>> >> >> > to
>> > get
>> >> >> > rid of whatever was there before.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that
>> > matches
>> >> >> > your video card. This may or may not be the adapter that you are
>> >> >> > using now. Examine the materials you received with your computer
> to
>> >> >> > see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains the
>> >> >> > correct
>> >> >> > video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and see if they have
> an
>> >> >> > adapter for you to download. Or check the website of the company
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > made your video card.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Bill Starbuck (MVP)
>> >> >> > ......End....of quote....
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |>
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > | "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> > |> > |news:O$5VlXCeIHA.288@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > ...snip
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Thanks or Good Luck,
>> >> >> > There may be humor in this post, and,
>> >> >> > Naturally, you will not sue,
>> >> >> > Should things get worse after this,
>> >> >> > PCR
>> >> >> > pcr...@netzero.net- Hide quoted text -
>> >> >>
>> >> >> - Show quoted text -
>> >> >
>> >> >>The only thing I
>> >> >> didn't do was reboot in between changes. Does that matter ?
>> >> > Rebooting is only the most important part of the whole process.
>> >> > That
>> >> > and deleting the correct things, take the line below for an example.
>> >> >
>> >> > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Monitor
>> >> > \0015
>> >> >
>> >> > When the hardware item for monitors is properly deleted, the
>> >> > registry
>> >> > should be missing the entire Monitor key itself along with the 0016
>> >> > copies of non-functioning monitor bloat in the registry. When you
>> >> > then reboot, Windows notices that there is NO monitor info (valid or
>> >> > otherwise) in the registry and sets about looking through the inf
>> >> > files to install one (or two) that matches the seen hardware pronto.
>> >> > And this is HOW to do it in the first place. Gee whiz. You can't
>> >> > just delete the ones you want to or the ones you happen to don't
>> >> > like
>> >> > - it's not up to you at all. That's why you wound up with so many
>> >> > because everytime you piddle with it wrong Windows has to chuck all
>> >> > those monitors and start counting from the last good entry all over
>> >> > again. Which is why we clear the bloat out of the registry at times
>> >> > like this.
>> >> >
>> >> > You can't manually install hardware inf files with a right click.
> Any
>> >> > inf file with the word "Base" in it is hands off and you can't get
>> >> > there from here anyway - so just fugetaboutit. You have only one
>> >> > option and that is to do it the right way. Remove the hardware from
>> >> > the Device Mangler and reboot to redetect it and install the proper
>> >> > files for it. If that doesn't work then you didn't remove enough
>> >> > hardware the first time around.
>> >> >
>> >> > The only exception is when custom hardware installation disks
>> >> > require
>> >> > you to do it the way they say to do it. In such cases - read the
>> >> > manual and do it how they say.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Manager isn't neat and tidy like you'd want, but a less than perfect DM is
actually pretty common.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com
"Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:OHQz12NfIHA.4608@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> See comments below:
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:OqRi97MfIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Unsigned, signed, no diff, really.
>>
>> Let's see if we can go over this one more time:
>> You have a video adapter with dual monitor capability, but only one
> monitor.
>> Is that correct? Is it a new adapter?
>
> I've had the video adapter (ATI 9200 Radeon) quite some time, the
> Viewsonic
> VP930b monitor was new to the system. I have updated the drivers for the
> video adapter on several occassions.
>
>> Or is the monitor (NOT "display") that's new and you are having a
> difficult
>> time getting it right?
>
> The supplied Win98 drivers on the CD-ROM would not install. I downloaded
> the Unsigned driver pack from Viewsonic site, and the Monitor picked up
> drivers on it's own. An unknown device was detected on the video adapter
> and a Default Monitor was also installed.
>
>> Have you removed ALL monitors and ALL video adapters? and then
> reinstalled?,
>> adapter first?
>
> Yes I've removed all monitors & adapters in device manager and then
> rebooted, but everything stays the same.
>
>> If this is a dual monitor adapter, have you looked in the instructions to
>> see if there's a way to turn it back into a single-monitor adapter?
>
> I have set the video adapter to dingle display mode.
>
>> Did you try the first three replies to your post?
>
> Yes, if you are asking if I disabled the Default Monitor
>
>> It is NOT unusual to see Default Monitor installed alongside the more up
> to
>> date drivers --- I sometimes wonder if it isn't NEEDED for certain types
> of
>> installations.
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:OzQq8yMfIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> > Yes, everything looks good except the Device Manager and it's ugly
>> > behaviour
>> > with the ICM and the extra Default Monitor attached to the video
> adapter.
>> > I
>> > think I've exhausted any doubt that it can not get any better with
> Windows
>> > 98SE. I guess that's to be expected with unsigned drivers, which is
>> > all
>> > that is available for Windows 98SE..
>> >
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> > news:uEPAKFMfIHA.6136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> Warren,
>> >>
>> >> Does your monitor look right? Does it behave properly. Anything wrong
>> >> that
>> >> you can describe (or even anything wrong that you can't put your
>> >> finger
>> > on?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >>
>> >> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:efjA9zseIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Your comments are interesting but I don't understand what you want
>> >> > me
>> >> > to
>> >> > do
>> >> > in order to completly remove the monitors. I've been trying and I
> amm
>> >> > confused as to why I'm at Monitor_16 or whatever. Do you have any
>> >> > specific
>> >> > instructions on how to delete monitors properly ?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>> >> >
>> >
> news:0de89406-5ce7-4a51-b56b-3d65c765844e@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>> >> > On Feb 27, 10:04 pm, "Warren" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >> >> I swapped drivers, it was kind of scary, but it came back. The only
>> > thing
>> >> > I
>> >> >> didn't do was reboot in between changes. Does that matter ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> >> >>
>> >> >> news:%23MRE$8beIHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > | "Warren" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > |news:eaekKAPeIHA.4464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > |> See comments below: $$$
>> >> >> > |>
>> >> >> > |> "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> > |>news:%23AFw64MeIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > |> > Warren wrote:
>> >> >> > |> > | Thanks PCR,that solved the problem perfectly. Good fix.
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > You are welcome. So... on Brian A.'s head & 1/3 the blame
> going
>> > to
>> >> >> > |> > Badour... go on and R-Clk that monster VS080114_I19.inf, &
>> > select
>> >> >> > |> > "Install".
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > (1) What happened?
>> >> >> > |> > (There's a chance you get no feedback.)
>> >> >> > |> > But do you still have both a Default Monitor & the
>> >> >> > |> > ViewSonic VP930 Series showing in Device Manager?
>> >> >> > |>
>> >> >> > |> $$$ They are still both there
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Uhuh.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |> > (2) Do this again...
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > (a) Boot to Safe Mode
>> >> >> > |> > (Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
>> >> >> > |> > (b) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System,
>> >> >> > |> > Device Manager tab"
>> >> >> > |> > (c) Open the Monitors branch,
>> >> >> > |> > & Remove all entries under it.
>> >> >> > |> > (d) Boot to Normal Mode.
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > Is the ViewSonic VP930 Series monitor rediscovered &
>> >> >> > |> > installed? Did the Default Monitor disappear?
>> >> >> > |>
>> >> >> > |> $$$ Unfortunately it picked both monitors upagain
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > That's the procedure that really should be working for this!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |> > (3) "Control Panel, Display, Settings tab, Advanced button,
>> >> >> > |> > Monitor tab"
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > (a) What monitor is stated by the monitor icon?
>> >> >> > |> > (You should see ViewSonic VP930 Series.)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > You didn't answer. You did see that there?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |> > (b) Click the Change button, & the Next button.
>> >> >> > |> > (c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
>> >> >> > |> > Does ViewSonic VP930 Series show in the Models box?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Same here.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |> > (d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
>> >> >> > |> > Examine the two panes to see what is currently
>> >> >> > |> > installed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > At this point, did Windows rebuild its "driver information
>> >> >> > database"?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |> > In the left (Manufacturers) pane, you should see ViewSonic,
>> >> >> > &
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > |> > the right (Models) pane, you should see ViewSonic VP930
> Series
>> >> >> > |> > selected & highlighted.
>> >> >> > |>
>> >> >> > |> $$$ It is just highlighting the first Viewsonic monitor in the
>> >> >> > |> driver list "OPTIQUEST 1000S"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Uhuh. That's the top one, & is the one mine points to when I
>> >> >> > click
>> >> >> > ViewSonic in the left pane. Yours should be pointing at the
>> >> >> > VP930,
>> >> >> > because that was installed! That's what normally happens at that
>> >> >> > requestor!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > We have to try Registry deletes again, I guess. I'll post it
>> > elsewhere
>> >> >> > in this thread. Maybe try removing the adapter first.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Warren wrote:
>> >> >> > | One thought I've had is that the Device Manager may be
>> >> >> > insisting
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > | building a second monitor is because the video adapter has
>> > provision
>> >> >> > | for two monitors. I have set the video card for having only one
>> >> >> > | monitor, but maybe the Device Manager doesn't look at this
> setting
>> > on
>> >> >> > | the video adapter ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Where do you see a setting for that? Here is how to remove the
>> > Adapter,
>> >> >> > as I posted elsewhere, (but it's something I, myself, might be a
> tad
>> >> >> > fearful to do)...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Important: At the point below where you "bolt
>> >> >> > 'Show all hardware'", ensure you copy down what is in the left &
>> > right
>> >> >> > panes. Then, if you have no other way to get back your current
>> > display
>> >> >> > adapter, you may go back into that screen to select it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > ......Quote..........
>> >> >> > The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have
>> >> >> > installed. Right-click on the desktop choose "Properties" from
> the
>> >> >> > drop-down menu select "Settings" click on the "Advanced"
>> >> >> > button
>> > and
>> >> >> > click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that tells Windows
>> >> >> > how
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > deal with a specific video card. Make note of the adapter that is
>> >> >> > currently installed. Then, change the adapter to "Standard
>> >> >> > Display
>> >> >> > Adapter (VGA)" and restart the system.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > [That is: Click "Change button, Next, bolt 'Display a List...',
>> >> >> > Next,
>> >> >> > bolt 'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select
> '(Standard
>> >> >> > display types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter (VGA)' in right
>> > pane,
>> >> >> > click 'Next'"... PCR]
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a
>> >> >> > generic
>> > VGA
>> >> >> > adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like VGA
>> > because
>> >> >> > it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of installing it is
>> >> >> > to
>> > get
>> >> >> > rid of whatever was there before.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that
>> > matches
>> >> >> > your video card. This may or may not be the adapter that you are
>> >> >> > using now. Examine the materials you received with your computer
> to
>> >> >> > see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains the
>> >> >> > correct
>> >> >> > video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and see if they have
> an
>> >> >> > adapter for you to download. Or check the website of the company
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > made your video card.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Bill Starbuck (MVP)
>> >> >> > ......End....of quote....
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |>
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > | "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> > |> > |news:O$5VlXCeIHA.288@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > ...snip
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Thanks or Good Luck,
>> >> >> > There may be humor in this post, and,
>> >> >> > Naturally, you will not sue,
>> >> >> > Should things get worse after this,
>> >> >> > PCR
>> >> >> > pcr...@netzero.net- Hide quoted text -
>> >> >>
>> >> >> - Show quoted text -
>> >> >
>> >> >>The only thing I
>> >> >> didn't do was reboot in between changes. Does that matter ?
>> >> > Rebooting is only the most important part of the whole process.
>> >> > That
>> >> > and deleting the correct things, take the line below for an example.
>> >> >
>> >> > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Monitor
>> >> > \0015
>> >> >
>> >> > When the hardware item for monitors is properly deleted, the
>> >> > registry
>> >> > should be missing the entire Monitor key itself along with the 0016
>> >> > copies of non-functioning monitor bloat in the registry. When you
>> >> > then reboot, Windows notices that there is NO monitor info (valid or
>> >> > otherwise) in the registry and sets about looking through the inf
>> >> > files to install one (or two) that matches the seen hardware pronto.
>> >> > And this is HOW to do it in the first place. Gee whiz. You can't
>> >> > just delete the ones you want to or the ones you happen to don't
>> >> > like
>> >> > - it's not up to you at all. That's why you wound up with so many
>> >> > because everytime you piddle with it wrong Windows has to chuck all
>> >> > those monitors and start counting from the last good entry all over
>> >> > again. Which is why we clear the bloat out of the registry at times
>> >> > like this.
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>> >> > You can't manually install hardware inf files with a right click.
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>> >> > inf file with the word "Base" in it is hands off and you can't get
>> >> > there from here anyway - so just fugetaboutit. You have only one
>> >> > option and that is to do it the right way. Remove the hardware from
>> >> > the Device Mangler and reboot to redetect it and install the proper
>> >> > files for it. If that doesn't work then you didn't remove enough
>> >> > hardware the first time around.
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>> >> > The only exception is when custom hardware installation disks
>> >> > require
>> >> > you to do it the way they say to do it. In such cases - read the
>> >> > manual and do it how they say.
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