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On Mar 17, 4:45 am, "Warren" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Yes he did run it, but I'm not sure what it told him:
>
> [EDID]
> ID=VSCE41B
> SN=xx16843009
> Manufactured=Week 20, 2006
> Type=Analog (0.7V)
> Size=380 x 310 mm (20")
> MaxHfreq=75 kHz (est.)
> MaxVfreq=at least 85 Hz
> MaxRes=2048 x 1200 (est.)
> Gamma=2.20
> GTF=n/a
> DPMS=No
>
> "MEB" <meb@not h...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:u3wzss$hIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...> [Generic]
> > %Unknown.DeviceDesc%=Unknown.Install,Monitor\Default_Monitor for
> > auto-install
> > %Unknown.DeviceDesc%=Unknown.Install for pick list
> > %*PNP09FF.DeviceDesc%=VESADDC.Install,*PNP09FF
>
> > *VESADDC*?
> >http://pinouts.ru/Video/VGAVesaDdc_pinout.shtml
>
> http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id....-
>
>
>
> > note the multiple default monitors
>
> > For the NT users, a tool to dig out information:
> >http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=756&mode=thre....
>
> > | AddReg=VP930_Series.AddReg,1280,DPMS
> >http://webpages.charter.net/dperr/dpms.htm
> >http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/37027
>
> > Did you ask him to use the DDC test tool I posted?
>
> > IF its talkin, we be walkin...
>
> > * MEB
> >http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> > --
> > _________
>
> > "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote in message
> >news:ueXIxj9hIHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > | MEB wrote:
> > | | "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote in message
> > | |news:%23HA86uxhIHA.1944@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > | || MEB wrote:
> > | || | "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote in message
> > | || |news:ORjn80jhIHA.6092@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > | || || MEB wrote:
> > | || || | "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote in message
> > | || || |news:%23UIOKuVhIHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > | ||
> > | || ...snip
> > | || || That seems like a little too much to do! I'm at the MS Library, &,
> > | || || if I can't find something simpler, I'll resort to one of your
> > | || || explications. What do you make of this...?...
> > | || ||
> > | || ||http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa939135.aspx
> > | || || .....Quote.................
> > | || || Default Monitor
> > | || ||
> > | || || The Default Monitor component provides support for a generic
> > | || || monitor device. This component supplies the monitor.inf file,
> > | || || which is a system-supplied INF (information) file for a generic
> > | || || monitor. The monitor.inf file is associated with Windows 95.
> > | || ||
> > | || || Services
> > | || || There are no services associated with this component.
> > | || ||
> > | || || Associated Components
> > | || || No other components interact with this component.
> > | || ||
> > | || || Settings
> > | || || There are no configurable settings for this component.
> > | || || .....EOQ...................
> > | || ||
> > | || |
> > | || | Okay, you found the XPSR2 file to briefly explain why a default
> > | || | was included..
> > | || |
> > | || | As I see it:
> > | || |
> > | || | Well, let me put that on my own website [rather than letting
> > | || | someone else re-write it and put it on their site].
> > | || |
> > |http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/windows/default_monitor.htm
> > | || | - Windows Default Monitor in the registry and Device Manager
> > | || |
> > | || | The short is, its the chips baby, its all in the chips...
> > | ||
> > | || Because you've trebled the size of your explication, it will take
> > | || longer to read it thrice. I also want to scour that MS Library-- & I
> > | || haven't got the time tonight! Will get back to this tomorrow.
> > | |
> > | | Actually, I just collected the presentations from this thread, and a
> > | | small part from what I put into another monitor/adapter discussion.
> > | | Anyway, will see hat you come up with...
> > |
> > | OK. And I continue to promise it is coming... but again I've run out of
> > | time. (I did post to Lee in the other thread.) I'll get back tomorrow.
> > | My first few additional clicks at the MS Library came up empty-- but I
> > | remain guardedly hopeful. As I posted to Lee, here are the lines in
> > | Warren's VS080114_I19.inf that mention the VP930...
> > |
> > | [DestinationDirs]
> > | VP930_Series.CopyFiles=23
> > |
> > | [SourceDisksFiles]
> > | VP930_Series.ICM=1
> > |
> > | [ViewSonic]
> > | %VP930_Series%=VP930_Series.Install,Monitor\VSCE41B VP930_Series
> > |
> > | [ViewSonic.NTia64]
> > | %VP930_Series%=VP930_Series.Install,Monitor\VSCE41B VP930_Series
> > |
> > | [ViewSonic.NTamd64]
> > | %VP930_Series%=VP930_Series.Install,Monitor\VSCE41B VP930_Series
> > |
> > | [VP930_Series.Install] VP930_Series
> > | DelReg=DEL_CURRENT_REG
> > | AddReg=VP930_Series.AddReg,1280,DPMS
> > | Copyfiles=VP930_Series.CopyFiles
> > |
> > | [VP930_Series.AddReg] VP930_Series
> > | HKR,"MODES\1280,1024",Mode1,,"30-82,50-75,+,+"
> > | HKR,,ICMProfile,0,"VP930_Series.ICM"
> > |
> > | [VP930_Series.CopyFiles]
> > | VP930_Series.ICM
> > |
> > | [Strings]
> > | VP930_Series="ViewSonic VP930 Series"
> > |
> > | Also, that Default_Monitor is not mentioned in his .inf. It is mentioned
> > | in Monitor.inf that we all have. I show only the lines that mention
> > | it (but I must go)...
> > |
> > | [SysCfgClasses]
> > | Monitor, %Unknown.DeviceDesc%,MONITOR,4,%MonitorClassName% Default
> > | to "Unknown Monitor"
> > |
> > | Monitors to hide from pick list
> > | -------------------------------------------------
> > | [ControlFlags]
> > | ExcludeFromSelect=Monitor\Default_Monitor
> > |
> > | [Generic]
> > | %Unknown.DeviceDesc%=Unknown.Install,Monitor\Default_Monitor for
> > | auto-install
> > | %Unknown.DeviceDesc%=Unknown.Install for pick list
> > | %*PNP09FF.DeviceDesc%=VESADDC.Install,*PNP09FF
> > |
> > | [Strings]
> > | MonitorClassName="Monitors"
> > | MS="Microsoft"
> > |
> > | Generic="(Standard monitor types)"
> > | Unknown.DeviceDesc="Default Monitor"
> > |
> > | *PNP09FF.DeviceDesc = "Plug and Play Monitor"
> > |
> > | ||
> > | || ||
> > | || || | MEB
> > | || || PCR
> > | || | MEB
> > | || | _________
> > | || PCR
> > | | --
> > | |
> > | | MEB
> > | |http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> > | | _________
> > |
> > | --
> > | Thanks or Good Luck,
> > | There may be humor in this post, and,
> > | Naturally, you will not sue,
> > | Should things get worse after this,
> > | PCR
> > | pcr...@netzero.net
> > |
> > |- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
It told the ID number VSCE41B which is used by Windows to identify the
monitor such as to match it with an inf file and then from the inf
file to an ICM file to drive it with. The ID number does match the
latest VS080314_l19.inf file so there is hope it will work. When
Windows queries the monitor as to "who are you?", it answers with the
ID number which is how Windows knows which inf to install the drivers
for it with.
So as soon as PCR mentioned the inf file was a large one, I flinched
because 9x inf files can not be 60k or larger or they fail to work
properly and that would explain why the unknown monitor gets installed
as the Default Monitor all day long. The inf file can not be used to
ID the monitor properly because it is too big. I see even in the
latest driver package ViewSonic has a 63k inf for 9x systems which is
a big fat no-no all the way around (nobody told them?). Thankfully it
doesn't have your monitor info in it so maybe it doesn't matter.
So I set about to download my own copy of this dadgummed driver
critter, lift the hood and take a peek at it myself. What I find is
that as of 3 days ago ViewSonic posted a new driver for your monitor -
how is that for a co-inkeedink? 3/14/2008, so go get the new one and
see if they cleaned it up just for you. This thread and the other one
is replicating itself beyond belief, but amidst all the echos I did
find these that seem to be of some interest.
http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=81436
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/50591-3-calibrating-viewsonic-vp930
http://www.viewsonic.com/support/drivers/drivers.cfm?category=1&formName=monitor
I thought boy howdy, I'm going to get Warren the low down skinny on
just what is going on, look at all these vp930 Google hits with
"Default Monitor" in them only to find out that the author is Warren
himself. Hopefully the new release will fix it up right - let us know
as per usual.
> Yes he did run it, but I'm not sure what it told him:
>
> [EDID]
> ID=VSCE41B
> SN=xx16843009
> Manufactured=Week 20, 2006
> Type=Analog (0.7V)
> Size=380 x 310 mm (20")
> MaxHfreq=75 kHz (est.)
> MaxVfreq=at least 85 Hz
> MaxRes=2048 x 1200 (est.)
> Gamma=2.20
> GTF=n/a
> DPMS=No
>
> "MEB" <meb@not h...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:u3wzss$hIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...> [Generic]
> > %Unknown.DeviceDesc%=Unknown.Install,Monitor\Default_Monitor for
> > auto-install
> > %Unknown.DeviceDesc%=Unknown.Install for pick list
> > %*PNP09FF.DeviceDesc%=VESADDC.Install,*PNP09FF
>
> > *VESADDC*?
> >http://pinouts.ru/Video/VGAVesaDdc_pinout.shtml
>
> http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id....-
>
>
>
> > note the multiple default monitors
>
> > For the NT users, a tool to dig out information:
> >http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=756&mode=thre....
>
> > | AddReg=VP930_Series.AddReg,1280,DPMS
> >http://webpages.charter.net/dperr/dpms.htm
> >http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/37027
>
> > Did you ask him to use the DDC test tool I posted?
>
> > IF its talkin, we be walkin...
>
> > * MEB
> >http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> > --
> > _________
>
> > "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote in message
> >news:ueXIxj9hIHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > | MEB wrote:
> > | | "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote in message
> > | |news:%23HA86uxhIHA.1944@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > | || MEB wrote:
> > | || | "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote in message
> > | || |news:ORjn80jhIHA.6092@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > | || || MEB wrote:
> > | || || | "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote in message
> > | || || |news:%23UIOKuVhIHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > | ||
> > | || ...snip
> > | || || That seems like a little too much to do! I'm at the MS Library, &,
> > | || || if I can't find something simpler, I'll resort to one of your
> > | || || explications. What do you make of this...?...
> > | || ||
> > | || ||http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa939135.aspx
> > | || || .....Quote.................
> > | || || Default Monitor
> > | || ||
> > | || || The Default Monitor component provides support for a generic
> > | || || monitor device. This component supplies the monitor.inf file,
> > | || || which is a system-supplied INF (information) file for a generic
> > | || || monitor. The monitor.inf file is associated with Windows 95.
> > | || ||
> > | || || Services
> > | || || There are no services associated with this component.
> > | || ||
> > | || || Associated Components
> > | || || No other components interact with this component.
> > | || ||
> > | || || Settings
> > | || || There are no configurable settings for this component.
> > | || || .....EOQ...................
> > | || ||
> > | || |
> > | || | Okay, you found the XPSR2 file to briefly explain why a default
> > | || | was included..
> > | || |
> > | || | As I see it:
> > | || |
> > | || | Well, let me put that on my own website [rather than letting
> > | || | someone else re-write it and put it on their site].
> > | || |
> > |http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/windows/default_monitor.htm
> > | || | - Windows Default Monitor in the registry and Device Manager
> > | || |
> > | || | The short is, its the chips baby, its all in the chips...
> > | ||
> > | || Because you've trebled the size of your explication, it will take
> > | || longer to read it thrice. I also want to scour that MS Library-- & I
> > | || haven't got the time tonight! Will get back to this tomorrow.
> > | |
> > | | Actually, I just collected the presentations from this thread, and a
> > | | small part from what I put into another monitor/adapter discussion.
> > | | Anyway, will see hat you come up with...
> > |
> > | OK. And I continue to promise it is coming... but again I've run out of
> > | time. (I did post to Lee in the other thread.) I'll get back tomorrow.
> > | My first few additional clicks at the MS Library came up empty-- but I
> > | remain guardedly hopeful. As I posted to Lee, here are the lines in
> > | Warren's VS080114_I19.inf that mention the VP930...
> > |
> > | [DestinationDirs]
> > | VP930_Series.CopyFiles=23
> > |
> > | [SourceDisksFiles]
> > | VP930_Series.ICM=1
> > |
> > | [ViewSonic]
> > | %VP930_Series%=VP930_Series.Install,Monitor\VSCE41B VP930_Series
> > |
> > | [ViewSonic.NTia64]
> > | %VP930_Series%=VP930_Series.Install,Monitor\VSCE41B VP930_Series
> > |
> > | [ViewSonic.NTamd64]
> > | %VP930_Series%=VP930_Series.Install,Monitor\VSCE41B VP930_Series
> > |
> > | [VP930_Series.Install] VP930_Series
> > | DelReg=DEL_CURRENT_REG
> > | AddReg=VP930_Series.AddReg,1280,DPMS
> > | Copyfiles=VP930_Series.CopyFiles
> > |
> > | [VP930_Series.AddReg] VP930_Series
> > | HKR,"MODES\1280,1024",Mode1,,"30-82,50-75,+,+"
> > | HKR,,ICMProfile,0,"VP930_Series.ICM"
> > |
> > | [VP930_Series.CopyFiles]
> > | VP930_Series.ICM
> > |
> > | [Strings]
> > | VP930_Series="ViewSonic VP930 Series"
> > |
> > | Also, that Default_Monitor is not mentioned in his .inf. It is mentioned
> > | in Monitor.inf that we all have. I show only the lines that mention
> > | it (but I must go)...
> > |
> > | [SysCfgClasses]
> > | Monitor, %Unknown.DeviceDesc%,MONITOR,4,%MonitorClassName% Default
> > | to "Unknown Monitor"
> > |
> > | Monitors to hide from pick list
> > | -------------------------------------------------
> > | [ControlFlags]
> > | ExcludeFromSelect=Monitor\Default_Monitor
> > |
> > | [Generic]
> > | %Unknown.DeviceDesc%=Unknown.Install,Monitor\Default_Monitor for
> > | auto-install
> > | %Unknown.DeviceDesc%=Unknown.Install for pick list
> > | %*PNP09FF.DeviceDesc%=VESADDC.Install,*PNP09FF
> > |
> > | [Strings]
> > | MonitorClassName="Monitors"
> > | MS="Microsoft"
> > |
> > | Generic="(Standard monitor types)"
> > | Unknown.DeviceDesc="Default Monitor"
> > |
> > | *PNP09FF.DeviceDesc = "Plug and Play Monitor"
> > |
> > | ||
> > | || ||
> > | || || | MEB
> > | || || PCR
> > | || | MEB
> > | || | _________
> > | || PCR
> > | | --
> > | |
> > | | MEB
> > | |http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> > | | _________
> > |
> > | --
> > | Thanks or Good Luck,
> > | There may be humor in this post, and,
> > | Naturally, you will not sue,
> > | Should things get worse after this,
> > | PCR
> > | pcr...@netzero.net
> > |
> > |- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
It told the ID number VSCE41B which is used by Windows to identify the
monitor such as to match it with an inf file and then from the inf
file to an ICM file to drive it with. The ID number does match the
latest VS080314_l19.inf file so there is hope it will work. When
Windows queries the monitor as to "who are you?", it answers with the
ID number which is how Windows knows which inf to install the drivers
for it with.
So as soon as PCR mentioned the inf file was a large one, I flinched
because 9x inf files can not be 60k or larger or they fail to work
properly and that would explain why the unknown monitor gets installed
as the Default Monitor all day long. The inf file can not be used to
ID the monitor properly because it is too big. I see even in the
latest driver package ViewSonic has a 63k inf for 9x systems which is
a big fat no-no all the way around (nobody told them?). Thankfully it
doesn't have your monitor info in it so maybe it doesn't matter.
So I set about to download my own copy of this dadgummed driver
critter, lift the hood and take a peek at it myself. What I find is
that as of 3 days ago ViewSonic posted a new driver for your monitor -
how is that for a co-inkeedink? 3/14/2008, so go get the new one and
see if they cleaned it up just for you. This thread and the other one
is replicating itself beyond belief, but amidst all the echos I did
find these that seem to be of some interest.
http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=81436
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/50591-3-calibrating-viewsonic-vp930
http://www.viewsonic.com/support/drivers/drivers.cfm?category=1&formName=monitor
I thought boy howdy, I'm going to get Warren the low down skinny on
just what is going on, look at all these vp930 Google hits with
"Default Monitor" in them only to find out that the author is Warren
himself. Hopefully the new release will fix it up right - let us know
as per usual.