The Color 'Red' is missing

[Heirloom]

"catch some wind"............ride my bike!!! I didn't say "break some
wind!"
Heirloom, old and needs a new foot

"Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
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> <lol> Have you been at the chilli again <g>
> Joan
>
> Heirloom wrote:
>> Heirloom, old and need to catch
>> some wind
>>
>>
>
>

 

[N. Miller]

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:34:29 +0100, Joan Archer wrote:

> Mike M wrote:

>> A good example of a fairly extreme difference is route
>> Route = Root (English) and Rout (American)
>> Similarly router.
>>
>> However regional dialects which were very strong here until the
>> advent of widespread television meant that as late as the early 60s
>> when asked a question by a Geordie (someone from the Newcastle area
>> in the NE of England) I honestly thought he was speaking German
>> although I was possibly influenced by there being some real Germans
>> in the group. I turned to a German guy standing next to me and asked
>> what the person was saying only for the German to reply that he
>> hadn't a clue as he was one of mine (an Englishman). <g>

> Your example brought to mind the way I say the two words.
> Router = Rooter is the device I use to connect to the internet and Router
> sounding like Rowter is the equipment used in woodwork for making grooves
> <g>

Actually, the Saracens were pretty good "routers" (like your second
pronunciation). They usually were able to "rout" their opponents quite
easily on the battlefields.

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

 

[Heirloom]

Not true, oh psychotic one, I use 'whilst' all the time. The real problem
with the English language is that there are not enough words! We use the
same word for a variety of meanings, i.e. minute.......is that a measure of
time or something very small? Lead.......is this a heavy metal or someone
showing you the way? I could go on an on.........
Heirloom, old and still need that wind
(a heavy breeze or the tightening of a clock spring?)


"Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:O7m2%23oj0HHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
> news:edG5nDj0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Gary S. Terhune <none> wrote:
>>
>>> Not true. We've been *fixing* the English language ever since
>>> independence, slowly sorting out the mish-mash that is the so-called
>>> "English" language!
>>
>> Now that is funny! The Americans have done more to bastardise English
>> than anyone including the English and they're not making a bad job of
>> doing it themselves.<<<<
>
> LOL.....you ought to hear the way they mispronounce a lot of words as
> well. Blouse, route, luxury, for starters. One of my Yank buds and I
> were talking on the phone about 3 weeks ago, and were howling at the
> difference in how we talk. Poor Ron could hardly even understand him for
> starters. Even the Loon's accent is way softer than this one was.
>
> But you can always spot a Brit with the word "whilst". (G)
>
> Figgs
>

 

[Heirloom]

Actually, you just confirmed my point, Joanie. Rooter, this could be
something to clean out your plumbing pipes or someone cheering at a sporting
game.
Heirloom, old and so confused

"Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:%23w$$Z2p0HHA.4236@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Your example brought to mind the way I say the two words.
> Router = Rooter is the device I use to connect to the internet and Router
> sounding like Rowter is the equipment used in woodwork for making grooves
> <g>
> Joan
>
> Mike M wrote:
>>
>> A good example of a fairly extreme difference is route
>> Route = Root (English) and Rout (American)
>> Similarly router.
>>
>> However regional dialects which were very strong here until the
>> advent of widespread television meant that as late as the early 60s
>> when asked a question by a Geordie (someone from the Newcastle area
>> in the NE of England) I honestly thought he was speaking German
>> although I was possibly influenced by there being some real Germans
>> in the group. I turned to a German guy standing next to me and asked
>> what the person was saying only for the German to reply that he
>> hadn't a clue as he was one of mine (an Englishman). <g>
>
>

 

[webster72n]

It's called 'Roto-Rooter', H.
And by now my red colour(?) has reestablished itself in the scheme.
Could it be that it got 'wind' of some of your 'chilli'?
This group surely is helpful.

Harry.


"Heirloom" <roland58XX@XXcox.net> wrote in message
news:elw%235rr0HHA.5764@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Actually, you just confirmed my point, Joanie. Rooter, this could be
> something to clean out your plumbing pipes or someone cheering at a
sporting
> game.
> Heirloom, old and so confused
>
> "Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:%23w$$Z2p0HHA.4236@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > Your example brought to mind the way I say the two words.
> > Router = Rooter is the device I use to connect to the internet and
Router
> > sounding like Rowter is the equipment used in woodwork for making
grooves
> > <g>
> > Joan
> >
> > Mike M wrote:
> >>
> >> A good example of a fairly extreme difference is route
> >> Route = Root (English) and Rout (American)
> >> Similarly router.
> >>
> >> However regional dialects which were very strong here until the
> >> advent of widespread television meant that as late as the early 60s
> >> when asked a question by a Geordie (someone from the Newcastle area
> >> in the NE of England) I honestly thought he was speaking German
> >> although I was possibly influenced by there being some real Germans
> >> in the group. I turned to a German guy standing next to me and asked
> >> what the person was saying only for the German to reply that he
> >> hadn't a clue as he was one of mine (an Englishman). <g>
> >
> >
>
>

 

[Eric]

Route and router should be pronounced with an ow sound so as not to be
confused with root and rooter. Both have multiple meanings.
I don't know what fool started the use of words with multiple meanings (how
could root mean a thing at the base of a tree AND to cheer?), but we should
ideally have a unique word for everything to avoid confusion. English is
still the best language for universal communication though, since it already
has several times more words than other languages. Those older languages
are far more confusing as to words with multiple meanings.

"N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message
news:11hvmdg94zv0e$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...
> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:34:29 +0100, Joan Archer wrote:
>
>> Mike M wrote:
>
>>> A good example of a fairly extreme difference is route
>>> Route = Root (English) and Rout (American)
>>> Similarly router.
>>>
>>> However regional dialects which were very strong here until the
>>> advent of widespread television meant that as late as the early 60s
>>> when asked a question by a Geordie (someone from the Newcastle area
>>> in the NE of England) I honestly thought he was speaking German
>>> although I was possibly influenced by there being some real Germans
>>> in the group. I turned to a German guy standing next to me and asked
>>> what the person was saying only for the German to reply that he
>>> hadn't a clue as he was one of mine (an Englishman). <g>
>
>> Your example brought to mind the way I say the two words.
>> Router = Rooter is the device I use to connect to the internet and
>> Router
>> sounding like Rowter is the equipment used in woodwork for making grooves
>> <g>
>
> Actually, the Saracens were pretty good "routers" (like your second
> pronunciation). They usually were able to "rout" their opponents quite
> easily on the battlefields.
>
> --
> Norman
> ~Shine, bright morning light,
> ~now in the air the spring is coming.
> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
> ~singing down the hills and valleys.

Heirloom:
>Actually, you just confirmed my point, Joanie. Rooter, this could be
>something to clean out your plumbing pipes or someone cheering at a
>sporting
>game.
> Heirloom, old and so confused

 

[Mike M]

> Route and router should be pronounced with an ow sound

And who proclaimed you pronunciation God? What might seem correct for you
is far from correct for huge swaths of the English speaking world. You
need to get out a bit and meet and hear its varied citizens.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Eric <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:

> Route and router should be pronounced with an ow sound so as not to be
> confused with root and rooter. Both have multiple meanings.
> I don't know what fool started the use of words with multiple
> meanings (how could root mean a thing at the base of a tree AND to
> cheer?), but we should ideally have a unique word for everything to
> avoid confusion. English is still the best language for universal
> communication though, since it already has several times more words
> than other languages. Those older languages are far more confusing
> as to words with multiple meanings.

 

[Eric]

You silly pagan with your pronunciation god, everyone knows there is only
one true God.
No one is telling you how you HAVE to pronounce anything. I'm just saying
how it SHOULD be pronounced, unless you want to drive on root 66.
I have been out a bit, and I'm well aware of the goofy ways some people talk
and how hard it can be to understand them. America has several variations
of the language, England has their own variation, Australia has their own...
it is a bit odd that we can all speak the same language and sound so
foreign. If only we had the Star Trek universal translator that makes
everyone speak and understand the same language in the same way.

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:OPMvhQt0HHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Route and router should be pronounced with an ow sound
>
> And who proclaimed you pronunciation God? What might seem correct for you
> is far from correct for huge swaths of the English speaking world. You
> need to get out a bit and meet and hear its varied citizens.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> Eric <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> Route and router should be pronounced with an ow sound so as not to be
>> confused with root and rooter. Both have multiple meanings.
>> I don't know what fool started the use of words with multiple
>> meanings (how could root mean a thing at the base of a tree AND to
>> cheer?), but we should ideally have a unique word for everything to
>> avoid confusion. English is still the best language for universal
>> communication though, since it already has several times more words
>> than other languages. Those older languages are far more confusing
>> as to words with multiple meanings.
>

 

[Mike M]

> SHOULD be pronounced

There you go again, showing your ignorance.. What is correct in one
locale is totally incorrect in another but one needs to have had at least
a basic education to appreciate that fact. Not knowing you (or wishing
to), from reading your posts in this newsgroup you just come across as a
clueless moron. I'm sure you're not but nothing in your posts to this
newsgroup have ever done anything to dispel that impression.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Eric <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:

> You silly pagan with your pronunciation god, everyone knows there is
> only one true God.
> No one is telling you how you HAVE to pronounce anything. I'm just
> saying how it SHOULD be pronounced, unless you want to drive on root
> 66. I have been out a bit, and I'm well aware of the goofy ways some
> people talk and how hard it can be to understand them. America has
> several variations of the language, England has their own variation,
> Australia has their own... it is a bit odd that we can all speak the
> same language and sound so foreign. If only we had the Star Trek
> universal translator that makes everyone speak and understand the
> same language in the same way.

 

[Eric]

Like I said, it just makes more sense that way, but if you want to drive on
a root go ahead. If I read it right, the dictionary
(http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/route) says both are accepted, but just
because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
Until they bother to rewrite the language to get rid of all multiple
meanings for words and all words that sound alike, someone is always likely
to be misunderstood. I'm not surprised you got off track, missed the point,
and resorted to insults. From your posts, you come across as a pompous jerk
who always has to be right and likes to nitpick.


"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:uLlkrrt0HHA.1336@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> SHOULD be pronounced
>
> There you go again, showing your ignorance.. What is correct in one
> locale is totally incorrect in another but one needs to have had at least
> a basic education to appreciate that fact. Not knowing you (or wishing
> to), from reading your posts in this newsgroup you just come across as a
> clueless moron. I'm sure you're not but nothing in your posts to this
> newsgroup have ever done anything to dispel that impression.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> Eric <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> You silly pagan with your pronunciation god, everyone knows there is
>> only one true God.
>> No one is telling you how you HAVE to pronounce anything. I'm just
>> saying how it SHOULD be pronounced, unless you want to drive on root
>> 66. I have been out a bit, and I'm well aware of the goofy ways some
>> people talk and how hard it can be to understand them. America has
>> several variations of the language, England has their own variation,
>> Australia has their own... it is a bit odd that we can all speak the
>> same language and sound so foreign. If only we had the Star Trek
>> universal translator that makes everyone speak and understand the
>> same language in the same way.
>

 

[Mike M]

> Like I said, it just makes more sense that way

Oh dear! There you go again. Shame your knowledge of the world and its
people is so limited. As for my being a jerk, you may be correct but at
least I'm not an ignorant moron.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Eric <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:

> Like I said, it just makes more sense that way, but if you want to
> drive on a root go ahead. If I read it right, the dictionary
> (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/route) says both are accepted, but just
> because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
> Until they bother to rewrite the language to get rid of all multiple
> meanings for words and all words that sound alike, someone is always
> likely to be misunderstood. I'm not surprised you got off track,
> missed the point, and resorted to insults. From your posts, you come
> across as a pompous jerk who always has to be right and likes to
> nitpick.

 

[Eric]

Again with the third grade name calling? Shame your intelligence is so
limited that you can't argue a point without resorting to insults. If you
don't like driving on routes, go drive on some roots. I don't care how you
want to pronouce it. Go back to eating your bangers, or whatever your
ignorant people do.

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:eU9bGFu0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Like I said, it just makes more sense that way
>
> Oh dear! There you go again. Shame your knowledge of the world and its
> people is so limited. As for my being a jerk, you may be correct but at
> least I'm not an ignorant moron.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> Eric <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> Like I said, it just makes more sense that way, but if you want to
>> drive on a root go ahead. If I read it right, the dictionary
>> (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/route) says both are accepted, but just
>> because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
>> Until they bother to rewrite the language to get rid of all multiple
>> meanings for words and all words that sound alike, someone is always
>> likely to be misunderstood. I'm not surprised you got off track,
>> missed the point, and resorted to insults. From your posts, you come
>> across as a pompous jerk who always has to be right and likes to
>> nitpick.
>

 

[Heirloom]

Ah, this thread seems to be having more than just you, Harry, seeing red.
<g>. As someone earlier pointed out, the intermittent red may well be a
problem with the monitor. However, this is easily proven valid or no by
performing the simple little test with just the monitor on.
Heirloom, old and staying away from the waves

"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23qPRvbh0HHA.2484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> H:
> Your reply is most appealing and objective, without the sometimes nasty
> taunting.
> Very refreshing, easy to comply to and much appreciated.
> Thank you.
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "Heirloom" <roland58XX@XXcox.net> wrote in message
> news:ukBEfGY0HHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> All of what has been suggested to date is quite valid.......I would like
> to
>> add that I had a problem with my existing machine, similar to yours. My
>> screen would turn yellow. I determined it was not the monitor, very
> easily,
>> by simply turning the monitor on without the cpu and you should get some
>> sort of 'bouncing' message that the monitor has no signal, but, is
>> working
>> properly (or something to that affect). If not, try just turning on the
>> monitor and opening your menu (usually a button in the front or side of
> the
>> monitor), if the colors are correct, then it is not your monitor! Mine
> was
>> either a loose video cable at the back of the cpu or the video card was
>> loose. When I 'wiggled' the connection the yellow went away and all was
>> normal and, to date, it has remained such. I still don't know whether
>> it
>> was the cable connection or the seating of the video card.
>> Also, the video cable itself can cause similar problems. You would do
> well
>> to stick with Mart and Norman's suggestions.
>> Heirloom, old and need to catch some
>> wind
>>
>>
>> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uKQdv6T0HHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >
>> > "N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message
>> > news:401zpkyz5f1z$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...
>> >> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:54:17 -0400, webster72n wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where to
>> >> > turn.
>> >> >
>> >> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try:
>> >> >
>> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now
>> >> > completely
>> >> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal'
>> >> > with
>> > all
>> >> > colors present.
>> >> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue purplish.
>> >> > Otherwise no changes.
>> >> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a guess).
>> >> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'?
>> >> > Or is the cause somewhere else?
>> >> > If it can be fixed, please let me know.
>> >>
>> >> Monitors tend to die, after time. Especially the CRT (Cathode Ray
>> >> Tube)
>> >> variety, including TV sets.
>> >>
>> >> I had a ten-year-old Zenith monitor lost the blue gun.
>> >>
>> >> I have a fifteen-year-old Zenith TV which is losing the red gun.
>> >
>> > I'm taking it under advisement, Norman, thank you. <H>.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Norman
>> >> ~Shine, bright morning light,
>> >> ~now in the air the spring is coming.
>> >> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>> >> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

[George Gee]

Never eaten an old car in my life!

George Gee


"Eric" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:O86UEVu0HHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Again with the third grade name calling? Shame your intelligence is so
> limited that you can't argue a point without resorting to insults. If you
> don't like driving on routes, go drive on some roots. I don't care how
> you want to pronouce it. Go back to eating your bangers, or whatever your
> ignorant people do.
>
> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
> news:eU9bGFu0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Like I said, it just makes more sense that way
>>
>> Oh dear! There you go again. Shame your knowledge of the world and its
>> people is so limited. As for my being a jerk, you may be correct but at
>> least I'm not an ignorant moron.
>> --
>> Mike Maltby
>> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> Eric <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Like I said, it just makes more sense that way, but if you want to
>>> drive on a root go ahead. If I read it right, the dictionary
>>> (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/route) says both are accepted, but just
>>> because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
>>> Until they bother to rewrite the language to get rid of all multiple
>>> meanings for words and all words that sound alike, someone is always
>>> likely to be misunderstood. I'm not surprised you got off track,
>>> missed the point, and resorted to insults. From your posts, you come
>>> across as a pompous jerk who always has to be right and likes to
>>> nitpick.
>>
>
>

 

[N. Miller]

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:44:41 -0400, Eric wrote:

> "N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message
> news:11hvmdg94zv0e$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...

>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:34:29 +0100, Joan Archer wrote:

>>> Mike M wrote:

>>>> A good example of a fairly extreme difference is route
>>>> Route = Root (English) and Rout (American)
>>>> Similarly router.
>>>>
>>>> However regional dialects which were very strong here until the
>>>> advent of widespread television meant that as late as the early 60s
>>>> when asked a question by a Geordie (someone from the Newcastle area
>>>> in the NE of England) I honestly thought he was speaking German
>>>> although I was possibly influenced by there being some real Germans
>>>> in the group. I turned to a German guy standing next to me and asked
>>>> what the person was saying only for the German to reply that he
>>>> hadn't a clue as he was one of mine (an Englishman). <g>

>>> Your example brought to mind the way I say the two words.
>>> Router = Rooter is the device I use to connect to the internet and
>>> Router sounding like Rowter is the equipment used in woodwork for
>>> making grooves
>>> <g>

>> Actually, the Saracens were pretty good "routers" (like your second
>> pronunciation). They usually were able to "rout" their opponents quite
>> easily on the battlefields.

> Route and router should be pronounced with an ow sound so as not to be
> confused with root and rooter. Both have multiple meanings.
> I don't know what fool started the use of words with multiple meanings (how
> could root mean a thing at the base of a tree AND to cheer?), but we should
> ideally have a unique word for everything to avoid confusion. English is
> still the best language for universal communication though, since it already
> has several times more words than other languages. Those older languages
> are far more confusing as to words with multiple meanings.

English hasn't got a whole lot of native words (Anglo-Saxon based). It has
borrowed numerous words from other languages. Do you watch a /karaoke/
barbecue on your television?

'karaoke' is Japanese.
'barbecue' comes from a Caribe Indian word.
'tele' is Greek.
'vision' is Latin.

English has a lot of ambiguity in both pronunciation, and spelling. Has
anybody ever presented you with a present? (How can 'present' be both a
'gift', and 'time' period? For that matter, how can 'period' be both a dot
at the end of the sentence, and a time reference?

The soldiers ate dessert in the desert, after which two deserted their post?

On whose authority do you determine the proper pronunciation of 'route'?

Oh, and what makes English the current 'Universal Language' is the economic
power of the U.S.A. You want to do business with powerful companies, they
are probably USAian, and you need to know English to communicate with them.
That probably will *not* hold true as PRC gain prominence as an economic
power.

English is not the only language which borrows foreign words. We got
/karaoke/, /karate/, /typhoon/, and /tsunami/ from the people who call
'bread', 'pan', and cake, 'keiki', and ice cream, 'isu kureemu'. And they
live in 'apaatos' (apartments).

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

 

[Joan Archer]

<lol> I knew what you meant but couldn't resist the dig <g>
Joan
PS: How is the foot healing ?
Joan


Heirloom wrote:
> "catch some wind"............ride my bike!!! I didn't say "break
> some wind!"
> Heirloom, old and needs a new foot
>
> "Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:utZ09vc0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> <lol> Have you been at the chilli again <g>
>> Joan
>>
>> Heirloom wrote:
>>> Heirloom, old and need to catch
>>> some wind

 

[Eric]

A banger is an old car too? Better make sure your waiter knows what you're
talking about.
This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangers_and_mash) is the banger I'd heard
of.

"George Gee" <georgegee@nomaps.com> wrote in message
news:%23vReFgu0HHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Never eaten an old car in my life!
>
> George Gee
>
>
> "Eric" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:O86UEVu0HHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Again with the third grade name calling? Shame your intelligence is so
>> limited that you can't argue a point without resorting to insults. If
>> you don't like driving on routes, go drive on some roots. I don't care
>> how you want to pronouce it. Go back to eating your bangers, or whatever
>> your ignorant people do.
>>
>> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
>> news:eU9bGFu0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Like I said, it just makes more sense that way
>>>
>>> Oh dear! There you go again. Shame your knowledge of the world and its
>>> people is so limited. As for my being a jerk, you may be correct but at
>>> least I'm not an ignorant moron.
>>> --
>>> Mike Maltby
>>> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Eric <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Like I said, it just makes more sense that way, but if you want to
>>>> drive on a root go ahead. If I read it right, the dictionary
>>>> (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/route) says both are accepted, but just
>>>> because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
>>>> Until they bother to rewrite the language to get rid of all multiple
>>>> meanings for words and all words that sound alike, someone is always
>>>> likely to be misunderstood. I'm not surprised you got off track,
>>>> missed the point, and resorted to insults. From your posts, you come
>>>> across as a pompous jerk who always has to be right and likes to
>>>> nitpick.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

[webster72n]

With just the monitor on, H?
How does that play out?
(Don't mind my ignorance!) <H>.


"Heirloom" <roland58XX@XXcox.net> wrote in message
news:%23QEdTeu0HHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Ah, this thread seems to be having more than just you, Harry, seeing red.
> <g>. As someone earlier pointed out, the intermittent red may well be a
> problem with the monitor. However, this is easily proven valid or no by
> performing the simple little test with just the monitor on.
> Heirloom, old and staying away from the waves
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23qPRvbh0HHA.2484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > H:
> > Your reply is most appealing and objective, without the sometimes nasty
> > taunting.
> > Very refreshing, easy to comply to and much appreciated.
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
> > "Heirloom" <roland58XX@XXcox.net> wrote in message
> > news:ukBEfGY0HHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> All of what has been suggested to date is quite valid.......I would
like
> > to
> >> add that I had a problem with my existing machine, similar to yours.
My
> >> screen would turn yellow. I determined it was not the monitor, very
> > easily,
> >> by simply turning the monitor on without the cpu and you should get
some
> >> sort of 'bouncing' message that the monitor has no signal, but, is
> >> working
> >> properly (or something to that affect). If not, try just turning on
the
> >> monitor and opening your menu (usually a button in the front or side of
> > the
> >> monitor), if the colors are correct, then it is not your monitor!
Mine
> > was
> >> either a loose video cable at the back of the cpu or the video card was
> >> loose. When I 'wiggled' the connection the yellow went away and all
was
> >> normal and, to date, it has remained such. I still don't know whether
> >> it
> >> was the cable connection or the seating of the video card.
> >> Also, the video cable itself can cause similar problems. You would do
> > well
> >> to stick with Mart and Norman's suggestions.
> >> Heirloom, old and need to catch
some
> >> wind
> >>
> >>
> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:uKQdv6T0HHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >
> >> > "N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:401zpkyz5f1z$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...
> >> >> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:54:17 -0400, webster72n wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where to
> >> >> > turn.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now
> >> >> > completely
> >> >> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal'
> >> >> > with
> >> > all
> >> >> > colors present.
> >> >> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue
purplish.
> >> >> > Otherwise no changes.
> >> >> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a guess).
> >> >> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'?
> >> >> > Or is the cause somewhere else?
> >> >> > If it can be fixed, please let me know.
> >> >>
> >> >> Monitors tend to die, after time. Especially the CRT (Cathode Ray
> >> >> Tube)
> >> >> variety, including TV sets.
> >> >>
> >> >> I had a ten-year-old Zenith monitor lost the blue gun.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a fifteen-year-old Zenith TV which is losing the red gun.
> >> >
> >> > I'm taking it under advisement, Norman, thank you. <H>.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Norman
> >> >> ~Shine, bright morning light,
> >> >> ~now in the air the spring is coming.
> >> >> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
> >> >> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

 

[webster72n]

You fairly well summed it up, Norman, the basic english language is a mix of
several languages (Kauderwelsch) and started out with the german slang,
spoken in the northern part of Germany in earlier times, called
'Plattdeutsch' and still is. There may be people disagreeing with it, but
the fact still remains. Remember the Anglo-Saxons?
The dictionary will always tell us, what's 'cool'.
Why are we 'arguing' about this anyaway?
Think Eric and Mike will make up?

Harry.


"N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message
news:37dil4tq0kzv.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...
> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:44:41 -0400, Eric wrote:
>
> > "N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message
> > news:11hvmdg94zv0e$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...
>
> >> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:34:29 +0100, Joan Archer wrote:
>
> >>> Mike M wrote:
>
> >>>> A good example of a fairly extreme difference is route
> >>>> Route = Root (English) and Rout (American)
> >>>> Similarly router.
> >>>>
> >>>> However regional dialects which were very strong here until the
> >>>> advent of widespread television meant that as late as the early 60s
> >>>> when asked a question by a Geordie (someone from the Newcastle area
> >>>> in the NE of England) I honestly thought he was speaking German
> >>>> although I was possibly influenced by there being some real Germans
> >>>> in the group. I turned to a German guy standing next to me and asked
> >>>> what the person was saying only for the German to reply that he
> >>>> hadn't a clue as he was one of mine (an Englishman). <g>
>
> >>> Your example brought to mind the way I say the two words.
> >>> Router = Rooter is the device I use to connect to the internet and
> >>> Router sounding like Rowter is the equipment used in woodwork for
> >>> making grooves
> >>> <g>
>
> >> Actually, the Saracens were pretty good "routers" (like your second
> >> pronunciation). They usually were able to "rout" their opponents quite
> >> easily on the battlefields.
>
> > Route and router should be pronounced with an ow sound so as not to be
> > confused with root and rooter. Both have multiple meanings.
> > I don't know what fool started the use of words with multiple meanings
(how
> > could root mean a thing at the base of a tree AND to cheer?), but we
should
> > ideally have a unique word for everything to avoid confusion. English
is
> > still the best language for universal communication though, since it
already
> > has several times more words than other languages. Those older
languages
> > are far more confusing as to words with multiple meanings.
>
> English hasn't got a whole lot of native words (Anglo-Saxon based). It has
> borrowed numerous words from other languages. Do you watch a /karaoke/
> barbecue on your television?
>
> 'karaoke' is Japanese.
> 'barbecue' comes from a Caribe Indian word.
> 'tele' is Greek.
> 'vision' is Latin.
>
> English has a lot of ambiguity in both pronunciation, and spelling. Has
> anybody ever presented you with a present? (How can 'present' be both a
> 'gift', and 'time' period? For that matter, how can 'period' be both a dot
> at the end of the sentence, and a time reference?
>
> The soldiers ate dessert in the desert, after which two deserted their
post?
>
> On whose authority do you determine the proper pronunciation of 'route'?
>
> Oh, and what makes English the current 'Universal Language' is the
economic
> power of the U.S.A. You want to do business with powerful companies, they
> are probably USAian, and you need to know English to communicate with
them.
> That probably will *not* hold true as PRC gain prominence as an economic
> power.
>
> English is not the only language which borrows foreign words. We got
> /karaoke/, /karate/, /typhoon/, and /tsunami/ from the people who call
> 'bread', 'pan', and cake, 'keiki', and ice cream, 'isu kureemu'. And they
> live in 'apaatos' (apartments).
>
> --
> Norman
> ~Shine, bright morning light,
> ~now in the air the spring is coming.
> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
> ~singing down the hills and valleys.

 

[Heather]

C'mon......there ain't no Texan that uses the word "whilst". Heck,
neither do we and we are WAY more British than you guys. Unless one is
being a bit "affected".....hmmm, that is a possibility. Nah, not our
Loon!!

Kissies...Figgs

"Heirloom" <roland58XX@XXcox.net> wrote in message
news:uhj45pr0HHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Not true, oh psychotic one, I use 'whilst' all the time. The real
> problem with the English language is that there are not enough words!
> We use the same word for a variety of meanings, i.e. minute.......is
> that a measure of time or something very small? Lead.......is this a
> heavy metal or someone showing you the way? I could go on an
> on.........
> Heirloom, old and still need that
> wind (a heavy breeze or the tightening of a clock spring?)
>
>
> "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:O7m2%23oj0HHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
>> news:edG5nDj0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Gary S. Terhune <none> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not true. We've been *fixing* the English language ever since
>>>> independence, slowly sorting out the mish-mash that is the
>>>> so-called
>>>> "English" language!
>>>
>>> Now that is funny! The Americans have done more to bastardise
>>> English than anyone including the English and they're not making a
>>> bad job of doing it themselves.<<<<
>>
>> LOL.....you ought to hear the way they mispronounce a lot of words as
>> well. Blouse, route, luxury, for starters. One of my Yank buds and
>> I were talking on the phone about 3 weeks ago, and were howling at
>> the difference in how we talk. Poor Ron could hardly even understand
>> him for starters. Even the Loon's accent is way softer than this one
>> was.
>>
>> But you can always spot a Brit with the word "whilst". (G)
>>
>> Figgs
>>
>
>