Article: 10 Things I Warned Microsoft About Windows Vista

[Synapse Syndrome]

"On the Bridge!" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
news:47de8718@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>
> it seems like they think that their own experience is better than US
> pros..
> yes me included... with over 25 years of computer experience, I know when
> an OS is POS.

Hahaha...what sort of 'pro' are you exactly?

If I count me using my dad's Apple ][ clone in the early 80's, I could say I
have 25 years of computer experience too, but that would be pretty sad. But
you are no way my age (33).

You are a GUI fiddling teenager! Don't deny it!!

ss.

 

[On the Bridge! \(An MVP upgrade\)]

have you seen microsofts vista specifications?
1 ghz and 512 mb ram they say as the least powerful configuration needed.

and that technology is 6 years old at least... since a 1.4 ghz cpu existed
in 2000

so who is dumb then???



"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
news:%23NK9hSEiIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Kind of dumb to try to run a new os on a 6 year old machine. Enjoy Linux.
>
> "Administrator" <larsenvl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3B47F841-1580-425A-8868-058FB8DF0740@microsoft.com...
>> Wow, There needs to be an uprising of disgruntled vista
>> users and microsoft needs to fix the damn thing. (vista)
>> I am a college student and spent good money on updating my pc and also
>> bought a new laptop. Man, was that a mistake! My machine I built in
>> 2002 and has xp on it and runs so much better! I am so disappointed and
>> am investigating open source because I am sick of being at the mercy of
>> an OS that does not function properly.
>> vista sucks the big one! and I cannot even downgrade because they put
>> vista home pre. on the machines I bought. What crap! and thousands of
>> dollars later I have
>> an Os that I do not like! Microsoft better listen to us or linux will be
>> on the horizon and looming large!
>> "On the Bridge!" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
>> news:47de8718@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>>> http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/vista/10_things_i_warned_microsoft_about_windows_vista.html
>>>
>>> this is an article by Joe Wilcox
>>> and he states:
>>> "I worked as an analyst when Microsoft developed Windows Vista. Execs
>>> asked for my advice, and they got it. Did they listen?"
>>>
>>> But of course the vistaboys and frank king of the apes, will just
>>> discredit him too...
>>> it seems like they think that their own experience is better than US
>>> pros..
>>> yes me included... with over 25 years of computer experience, I know
>>> when an OS is POS.
>>>
>>> let the mud flow freely for vista!
>>> let the truth shine, and THEN lets decide if we should use it or not...
>>> not get it shoved down our throughts in the dark (not mine but the
>>> average user)
>>>
>>> here is the text of the article
>>>
>>>
>>> The imminent real release of Windows Vista Service Pack 1 is reason
>>> enough to broach the question. SP1 is an important milestone for an
>>> operating system that bloggers and other critics consistently ridicule.
>>> Oh, yeah, the channel and enterprises aren't exactly loving Vista
>>> either.
>>> These 10 things are in no particular order of importance.
>>> 1. Windows Vista has to be a whole lot better than Windows XP. Microsoft
>>> had left XP in the market for a long time. That version of Windows had
>>> reached a certain "good enough" threshold, in part because of the
>>> stable, supporting ecosystem. Vista would have to be a whole lot better
>>> to drive upgrades in established markets. I received assurances that
>>> Vista would deliver on the promise, which was later accentuated in the
>>> "Wow" marketing. What happened: Vista wasn't better enough.
>>> 2. Vista will miss the big PC upgrade cycle. A major enterprise PC
>>> refresh cycle started in 2004 and continued through mid-2006. In early
>>> 2006, I warned Microsoft executives that Vista would ship too late. What
>>> happened: The major upgrade cycle wound down, but computer sales
>>> remained strong because of consumer upgrades and a massive shift to
>>> portables. So, Vista missed the big hardware refresh cycle but caught
>>> another one. However, in part because of #1, many businesses opted for
>>> Windows XP instead of Vista on those shiny, new notebooks.
>>> 3. Windows Vista Home Basic is too basic. I strongly recommended against
>>> Microsoft's releasing this version at any price. Microsoft executives
>>> insisted that OEMs wanted a low-cost Vista version for cheap PCs. But
>>> Basic offered less than Windows XP Home for about the same price. I
>>> called it a hidden price increase. What happened: There is limited
>>> demand for Home Basic.
>>> 4. Call it Windows Basic. Vista Home Basic was so defeatured, I strongly
>>> encouraged Microsoft to remove the Vista name from the product. I warned
>>> that Basic would tarnish the broader Vista brand and that its
>>> streamlined features put it in a lower category. I bet a Microsoft
>>> product manager $100 that Windows Basic would become the default
>>> nomenclature. What happened: Other problems affecting every Vista
>>> version, such as applications and drivers incompatibilities,
>>> overshadowed Basic's weak feature set. Oh yeah, I owe somebody at
>>> Microsoft 100 bucks. I don't recall who you are, but don't feel impish
>>> about collecting.
>>> 5. Vista reminds too much of Windows Me. In late 2006, I had dinner with
>>> some Vista user interface designers. By then, I had used Vista betas for
>>> nearly 10 months. They heard: There are two Microsoft operating systems
>>> that the more I used them the less I liked them-Windows Me and Windows
>>> Vista. While not my intention, the comment hugely insulted the UI
>>> designers, because of how much Windows Me is regarded, even within
>>> Microsoft, as a marketing failure. What happened: Some critics have
>>> described Vista as Windows Me II.
>>> 6. One Vista version is enough. I opposed Microsoft's Vista SKU strategy
>>> from the first presentation and, later, after some tweaking. I explained
>>> that Windows isn't toothpaste. Too many versions would confuse
>>> customers, creating an unnecessary impediment to Vista upgrades. How
>>> could Vista be perceived as better enough if the buying experience was
>>> more difficult than XP? I strongly advocated a one-version strategy, but
>>> with differentiated OEM pricing depending on features used by the
>>> hardware. I reasoned the approach would simplify Windows purchasing
>>> while encouraging greater PC differentiation. What happened: The OEM
>>> market has largely consolidated around a single version: Vista Home
>>> Premium for consumers. It's all Gateway sells, for example. Many
>>> enterprises are adopting Vista Enterprise, which is a volume
>>> licensing-only option.
>>> 7. It has to be multiple SKUs or Windows Experience Index, but not both.
>>> WEI would confuse Vista buyers because the ratings would contradict with
>>> some versions. For example, Vista Ultimate could conceivably ship on a
>>> notebook with WEI of 3.0 (out of a possible 5.9). Customers would ask:
>>> If it's so ultimate, why is the rating so slow? I liked the WEI concept
>>> more than the SKU strategy and recommended choosing only the ratings
>>> scheme. What happened: WEI ratings were low the first year on notebooks,
>>> even those with Vista Ultimate.
>>> 8. Vista demands too much. From my earliest product briefings, Microsoft
>>> executives carted around big honking laptops-luggables-to get enough
>>> processing and graphics power to run early Vista builds. I was told
>>> Vista would need less power closer to release. Nope. I got my first
>>> Vista test system in February 2006. WEI: 2.0, on above-average hardware.
>>> What happened: OEMs shipped computers underpowered for Vista, even
>>> through holiday 2007. The operating system demands too much from even
>>> modestly older hardware.
>>> 9. Windows Vista Capable is a bad idea. Why could Microsoft possibly
>>> need two Vista logo programs? The connotations around Capable and Ready
>>> were either too alike or too confusing. I said that there should be one
>>> program for which everything truly was ready. Unfortunately, Microsoft
>>> didn't consult me on the logo programs, so I gave my advice after the
>>> Capable logo announcement. What happened: A Vista Capable class-action
>>> lawsuit revealed embarrassing Microsoft e-mails about Windows Vista
>>> decision-making processes-or lack of them.
>>> 10. Vista security features increase complexity, decrease usability. Oh,
>>> I was a loud critic of UAC (User Account Control) and Internet Explorer
>>> warnings. I argued that Microsoft had made Vista much harder to use than
>>> Windows XP. The experience would be worse for many users. Going back to
>>> #1, Vista had to be a lot better, not perceptually worse. What happened:
>>> UAC warnings hurt usability but caused more troubles new user rights
>>> mechanism broke many applications.
>>>
>>
>

 

[Bob Campbell]

"On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
news:47ded194$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>i can run Linux without a firewall or antivirus for years...

Good for you. I'll see your anecdotal evidence and raise you one. I know
people who have used Windows for years with no AV or firewall. I myself
never used a firewall until I got a wireless router. I still have no AV
software on my personal machines.

The only way to get a virus these days is by still being stupid enough to
click on every internet popup window that volunteers to "speed up your
computer" if you will just download this great utility! Or by blindly
clicking on email attachments. Common sense will prevent malware
infections.

 

[Frank]

On the Bridge! (An idiot!) wrote:

> I am ok with people who know all about vista and want it.

Just who the fukk do you think you are?
You're an idiot!
>
> I even advise people to get vista after I explain some stuff about it..

Oh, that must be hilarious...LOL!

> I always say now get a new computer with vista, not xp, but I make sure the
> person understands all the implications.. and I discuss his / her work
> habits and only if he she cannot use vista I say stay with XP.

You do this in front of a mirror, right?
>
> I just dont want people to fall for vista thinking its more that it is.. or
> will be some flawless experience

How wonderful of you.
Frank
>

 

[Bill Yanaire]

"On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
news:47ded51e@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> have you seen microsofts vista specifications?
> 1 ghz and 512 mb ram they say as the least powerful configuration needed.
>
> and that technology is 6 years old at least... since a 1.4 ghz cpu existed
> in 2000
>
> so who is dumb then???
>

You!

>
>
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> news:%23NK9hSEiIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Kind of dumb to try to run a new os on a 6 year old machine. Enjoy
>> Linux.
>>
>> "Administrator" <larsenvl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:3B47F841-1580-425A-8868-058FB8DF0740@microsoft.com...
>>> Wow, There needs to be an uprising of disgruntled vista
>>> users and microsoft needs to fix the damn thing. (vista)
>>> I am a college student and spent good money on updating my pc and also
>>> bought a new laptop. Man, was that a mistake! My machine I built in
>>> 2002 and has xp on it and runs so much better! I am so disappointed and
>>> am investigating open source because I am sick of being at the mercy of
>>> an OS that does not function properly.
>>> vista sucks the big one! and I cannot even downgrade because they put
>>> vista home pre. on the machines I bought. What crap! and thousands of
>>> dollars later I have
>>> an Os that I do not like! Microsoft better listen to us or linux will
>>> be on the horizon and looming large!
>>> "On the Bridge!" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
>>> news:47de8718@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>>>> http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/vista/10_things_i_warned_microsoft_about_windows_vista.html
>>>>
>>>> this is an article by Joe Wilcox
>>>> and he states:
>>>> "I worked as an analyst when Microsoft developed Windows Vista. Execs
>>>> asked for my advice, and they got it. Did they listen?"
>>>>
>>>> But of course the vistaboys and frank king of the apes, will just
>>>> discredit him too...
>>>> it seems like they think that their own experience is better than US
>>>> pros..
>>>> yes me included... with over 25 years of computer experience, I know
>>>> when an OS is POS.
>>>>
>>>> let the mud flow freely for vista!
>>>> let the truth shine, and THEN lets decide if we should use it or not...
>>>> not get it shoved down our throughts in the dark (not mine but the
>>>> average user)
>>>>
>>>> here is the text of the article
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The imminent real release of Windows Vista Service Pack 1 is reason
>>>> enough to broach the question. SP1 is an important milestone for an
>>>> operating system that bloggers and other critics consistently ridicule.
>>>> Oh, yeah, the channel and enterprises aren't exactly loving Vista
>>>> either.
>>>> These 10 things are in no particular order of importance.
>>>> 1. Windows Vista has to be a whole lot better than Windows XP.
>>>> Microsoft had left XP in the market for a long time. That version of
>>>> Windows had reached a certain "good enough" threshold, in part because
>>>> of the stable, supporting ecosystem. Vista would have to be a whole lot
>>>> better to drive upgrades in established markets. I received assurances
>>>> that Vista would deliver on the promise, which was later accentuated in
>>>> the "Wow" marketing. What happened: Vista wasn't better enough.
>>>> 2. Vista will miss the big PC upgrade cycle. A major enterprise PC
>>>> refresh cycle started in 2004 and continued through mid-2006. In early
>>>> 2006, I warned Microsoft executives that Vista would ship too late.
>>>> What happened: The major upgrade cycle wound down, but computer sales
>>>> remained strong because of consumer upgrades and a massive shift to
>>>> portables. So, Vista missed the big hardware refresh cycle but caught
>>>> another one. However, in part because of #1, many businesses opted for
>>>> Windows XP instead of Vista on those shiny, new notebooks.
>>>> 3. Windows Vista Home Basic is too basic. I strongly recommended
>>>> against Microsoft's releasing this version at any price. Microsoft
>>>> executives insisted that OEMs wanted a low-cost Vista version for cheap
>>>> PCs. But Basic offered less than Windows XP Home for about the same
>>>> price. I called it a hidden price increase. What happened: There is
>>>> limited demand for Home Basic.
>>>> 4. Call it Windows Basic. Vista Home Basic was so defeatured, I
>>>> strongly encouraged Microsoft to remove the Vista name from the
>>>> product. I warned that Basic would tarnish the broader Vista brand and
>>>> that its streamlined features put it in a lower category. I bet a
>>>> Microsoft product manager $100 that Windows Basic would become the
>>>> default nomenclature. What happened: Other problems affecting every
>>>> Vista version, such as applications and drivers incompatibilities,
>>>> overshadowed Basic's weak feature set. Oh yeah, I owe somebody at
>>>> Microsoft 100 bucks. I don't recall who you are, but don't feel impish
>>>> about collecting.
>>>> 5. Vista reminds too much of Windows Me. In late 2006, I had dinner
>>>> with some Vista user interface designers. By then, I had used Vista
>>>> betas for nearly 10 months. They heard: There are two Microsoft
>>>> operating systems that the more I used them the less I liked
>>>> them-Windows Me and Windows Vista. While not my intention, the comment
>>>> hugely insulted the UI designers, because of how much Windows Me is
>>>> regarded, even within Microsoft, as a marketing failure. What happened:
>>>> Some critics have described Vista as Windows Me II.
>>>> 6. One Vista version is enough. I opposed Microsoft's Vista SKU
>>>> strategy from the first presentation and, later, after some tweaking. I
>>>> explained that Windows isn't toothpaste. Too many versions would
>>>> confuse customers, creating an unnecessary impediment to Vista
>>>> upgrades. How could Vista be perceived as better enough if the buying
>>>> experience was more difficult than XP? I strongly advocated a
>>>> one-version strategy, but with differentiated OEM pricing depending on
>>>> features used by the hardware. I reasoned the approach would simplify
>>>> Windows purchasing while encouraging greater PC differentiation. What
>>>> happened: The OEM market has largely consolidated around a single
>>>> version: Vista Home Premium for consumers. It's all Gateway sells, for
>>>> example. Many enterprises are adopting Vista Enterprise, which is a
>>>> volume licensing-only option.
>>>> 7. It has to be multiple SKUs or Windows Experience Index, but not
>>>> both. WEI would confuse Vista buyers because the ratings would
>>>> contradict with some versions. For example, Vista Ultimate could
>>>> conceivably ship on a notebook with WEI of 3.0 (out of a possible 5.9).
>>>> Customers would ask: If it's so ultimate, why is the rating so slow? I
>>>> liked the WEI concept more than the SKU strategy and recommended
>>>> choosing only the ratings scheme. What happened: WEI ratings were low
>>>> the first year on notebooks, even those with Vista Ultimate.
>>>> 8. Vista demands too much. From my earliest product briefings,
>>>> Microsoft executives carted around big honking laptops-luggables-to get
>>>> enough processing and graphics power to run early Vista builds. I was
>>>> told Vista would need less power closer to release. Nope. I got my
>>>> first Vista test system in February 2006. WEI: 2.0, on above-average
>>>> hardware. What happened: OEMs shipped computers underpowered for Vista,
>>>> even through holiday 2007. The operating system demands too much from
>>>> even modestly older hardware.
>>>> 9. Windows Vista Capable is a bad idea. Why could Microsoft possibly
>>>> need two Vista logo programs? The connotations around Capable and Ready
>>>> were either too alike or too confusing. I said that there should be one
>>>> program for which everything truly was ready. Unfortunately, Microsoft
>>>> didn't consult me on the logo programs, so I gave my advice after the
>>>> Capable logo announcement. What happened: A Vista Capable class-action
>>>> lawsuit revealed embarrassing Microsoft e-mails about Windows Vista
>>>> decision-making processes-or lack of them.
>>>> 10. Vista security features increase complexity, decrease usability.
>>>> Oh, I was a loud critic of UAC (User Account Control) and Internet
>>>> Explorer warnings. I argued that Microsoft had made Vista much harder
>>>> to use than Windows XP. The experience would be worse for many users.
>>>> Going back to #1, Vista had to be a lot better, not perceptually worse.
>>>> What happened: UAC warnings hurt usability but caused more troubles
>>>> new user rights mechanism broke many applications.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

 

[Frank]

On the Bridge! (An idiot) wrote:

> I challenge you let someone who is neutral post 100 questions about vista,
> and lets see who will reply better,
> me or you... lol

You moron...all you do is to google for others.
>
> you dont have a chance... lol
>
hehehe...hey nut job...I've got all 17 Vista Ultimate installs x32 & x64
running properly. You on the other hand can't even get one little
install of Vista to run properly.
You've already lost...LOL!
Frank

 

[Frank]

On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade) wrote:

> this is sad.. I do such imports for fun!

You do them for attention...stop lying.
>
> frank should stick with what he is good (which must not be very much) and
> leave the computing to the geeks
>
Well that certainly eliminates your ignorant ass!
Frank

 

[Frank]

Gerry Atricks wrote:

> "On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
> news:47deb21a$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>
>>Frank thinks 17 machines is some big number.. lol
>>some of us make that many installs in a week
>>
>
>
> OK, so you do more than 17 Vista installs per week. Which Best Buy do you
> work at? Did you get your name patch on your shirt?
>
>
>>"PotsOn" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>news:frmamk11u9i@news2.newsguy.com...
>>
>>>Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On the Bridge! wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>...let me give you a piece of advice capin' crunch.
>>>>Next time do two things:
>>>>
>>>>1) just post the URL, ok?
>>>>2) read the fukkin article!
>>>>
>>>>Then we can discuss the likes and dislikes about the FUNCTIONAL parts of
>>>>Vista.
>>>>The marketing of Vista is history...it is what it is. Basic,Premium,
>>>>Business, Ultimate...exists...nothing you or joe can say will change
>>>>that fact. Playing Monday morning quarterback about marketing is merely
>>>>flapping your jaws.
>>>>Got it?
>>>>Oh and if you have so GD much experience with computers please tell us
>>>>why you can't seem to get one little fukkin install of Vista to run
>>>>properly. huh?
>>>>Whereas I have 17 installs of Vista running properly!
>>>>Does that make me smarter than you?...LOL!
>>>>Well...?
>>>>Frank
>>>
>>>Your installs seem to be increasing daily. That marketing company must be
>>>REALLY growing! Another Microsoft in the making, headed by another Monkey
>>>Boy. Now, "will that be fries with your order?".
>>>
>>>Cheers you pathetic pos.
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>What does Bill Gates use?
>>>http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl
>>>
>>>Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.
>>>
>>>Microsoft Is Watching YOU: http://tinyurl.com/2ptclh
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
hehehe...good one! The back of his t-shirt says..."kick me, I need to
get started"...LOL!
Frank

 

[Bill Yanaire]

an MVP upgrade?

"On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
news:47dece61@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> this is sad.. I do such imports for fun!

Come on now, you added MVP upgrade to your SIG? I think you got confused.
Take the cereal box back to the grocery store and ask for a different box.
Maybe the new box will have a different prize.


>
> frank should stick with what he is good (which must not be very much) and
> leave the computing to the geeks
>
>
> "Alias" <iamalias@removegmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OkTIe%23FiIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> PotsOn wrote:
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> 1) just post the URL, ok?
>>>>>
>>>>> you dont read urls franky poo, remember?
>>>> You stupid dipsh*t loser. I never said I don't read articles, you
>>>> moron.
>>>> I said I don't click on URL's in ng's.
>>>> Got it you idiot!
>>>
>>> So you copy and paste a URL link from a ng posting because you haven't
>>> figured out how to set a default browser to launch a URL contained in a
>>> ng
>>> message? That's understandable with the low IQ you have.
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>
>> Frank has a very old, not patched, not supported copy of Mozilla
>> Mail/News that comes with the Mozilla Suite he downloaded years ago. This
>> has been replaced with Sea Monkey and/or Firefox-Thunderbird but Frank is
>> too stupid to upgrade because he thinks, erroneously, that Sea Monkey
>> and/or Thunderbird won't import his garbage posts and newsgroups. The
>> Mozilla Suite email/news program will ONLY open the Mozilla browser, even
>> if you set another browser as the default, which Frank thinks isn't as
>> safe as Internet Exploder 7. In short, Frank is technically impaired as
>> well as a total low life who thinks that owning his one copy of Vista
>> Basic on a crap computer he bought at some place like Best Buy gives him
>> some kind of status symbol and bragging rights.
>>
>> Alias
>
>

 

[On the Bridge! \(An MVP upgrade\)]

glad to see that you are venting all your hate just like your doctor told
you.

But your doc is not correct... calling people names in newsgroups does not
make things better, its an addictive behaviour that you have grown to like.
Sure he thought that it would help you release some of that internal anger
that is eating you up....

but the more you do it, the more hate and anger you have the next time. Its
destructive for you frank.

I suggest you study some books about addiction, and anger managment, since
your doc is not giving you good advice.




"Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
news:eWbVQ7GiIHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> On the Bridge! (An idiot!) wrote:
>
>> I am ok with people who know all about vista and want it.
>
> Just who the fukk do you think you are?
> You're an idiot!
>>
>> I even advise people to get vista after I explain some stuff about it..
>
> Oh, that must be hilarious...LOL!
>
>> I always say now get a new computer with vista, not xp, but I make sure
>> the person understands all the implications.. and I discuss his / her
>> work habits and only if he she cannot use vista I say stay with XP.
>
> You do this in front of a mirror, right?
>>
>> I just dont want people to fall for vista thinking its more that it is..
>> or will be some flawless experience
>
> How wonderful of you.
> Frank
>>

 

[On the Bridge! \(An MVP upgrade\)]

thats what I said.. YOU! lol

see? we agree!


"Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in message
news:ujU4P7GiIHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
> news:47ded51e@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>> have you seen microsofts vista specifications?
>> 1 ghz and 512 mb ram they say as the least powerful configuration needed.
>>
>> and that technology is 6 years old at least... since a 1.4 ghz cpu
>> existed in 2000
>>
>> so who is dumb then???
>>
>
> You!
>
>>
>>
>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23NK9hSEiIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Kind of dumb to try to run a new os on a 6 year old machine. Enjoy
>>> Linux.
>>>
>>> "Administrator" <larsenvl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:3B47F841-1580-425A-8868-058FB8DF0740@microsoft.com...
>>>> Wow, There needs to be an uprising of disgruntled vista
>>>> users and microsoft needs to fix the damn thing. (vista)
>>>> I am a college student and spent good money on updating my pc and also
>>>> bought a new laptop. Man, was that a mistake! My machine I built in
>>>> 2002 and has xp on it and runs so much better! I am so disappointed and
>>>> am investigating open source because I am sick of being at the mercy of
>>>> an OS that does not function properly.
>>>> vista sucks the big one! and I cannot even downgrade because they put
>>>> vista home pre. on the machines I bought. What crap! and thousands of
>>>> dollars later I have
>>>> an Os that I do not like! Microsoft better listen to us or linux will
>>>> be on the horizon and looming large!
>>>> "On the Bridge!" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
>>>> news:47de8718@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>>>>> http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/vista/10_things_i_warned_microsoft_about_windows_vista.html
>>>>>
>>>>> this is an article by Joe Wilcox
>>>>> and he states:
>>>>> "I worked as an analyst when Microsoft developed Windows Vista. Execs
>>>>> asked for my advice, and they got it. Did they listen?"
>>>>>
>>>>> But of course the vistaboys and frank king of the apes, will just
>>>>> discredit him too...
>>>>> it seems like they think that their own experience is better than US
>>>>> pros..
>>>>> yes me included... with over 25 years of computer experience, I know
>>>>> when an OS is POS.
>>>>>
>>>>> let the mud flow freely for vista!
>>>>> let the truth shine, and THEN lets decide if we should use it or
>>>>> not...
>>>>> not get it shoved down our throughts in the dark (not mine but the
>>>>> average user)
>>>>>
>>>>> here is the text of the article
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The imminent real release of Windows Vista Service Pack 1 is reason
>>>>> enough to broach the question. SP1 is an important milestone for an
>>>>> operating system that bloggers and other critics consistently
>>>>> ridicule. Oh, yeah, the channel and enterprises aren't exactly loving
>>>>> Vista either.
>>>>> These 10 things are in no particular order of importance.
>>>>> 1. Windows Vista has to be a whole lot better than Windows XP.
>>>>> Microsoft had left XP in the market for a long time. That version of
>>>>> Windows had reached a certain "good enough" threshold, in part because
>>>>> of the stable, supporting ecosystem. Vista would have to be a whole
>>>>> lot better to drive upgrades in established markets. I received
>>>>> assurances that Vista would deliver on the promise, which was later
>>>>> accentuated in the "Wow" marketing. What happened: Vista wasn't better
>>>>> enough.
>>>>> 2. Vista will miss the big PC upgrade cycle. A major enterprise PC
>>>>> refresh cycle started in 2004 and continued through mid-2006. In early
>>>>> 2006, I warned Microsoft executives that Vista would ship too late.
>>>>> What happened: The major upgrade cycle wound down, but computer sales
>>>>> remained strong because of consumer upgrades and a massive shift to
>>>>> portables. So, Vista missed the big hardware refresh cycle but caught
>>>>> another one. However, in part because of #1, many businesses opted for
>>>>> Windows XP instead of Vista on those shiny, new notebooks.
>>>>> 3. Windows Vista Home Basic is too basic. I strongly recommended
>>>>> against Microsoft's releasing this version at any price. Microsoft
>>>>> executives insisted that OEMs wanted a low-cost Vista version for
>>>>> cheap PCs. But Basic offered less than Windows XP Home for about the
>>>>> same price. I called it a hidden price increase. What happened: There
>>>>> is limited demand for Home Basic.
>>>>> 4. Call it Windows Basic. Vista Home Basic was so defeatured, I
>>>>> strongly encouraged Microsoft to remove the Vista name from the
>>>>> product. I warned that Basic would tarnish the broader Vista brand and
>>>>> that its streamlined features put it in a lower category. I bet a
>>>>> Microsoft product manager $100 that Windows Basic would become the
>>>>> default nomenclature. What happened: Other problems affecting every
>>>>> Vista version, such as applications and drivers incompatibilities,
>>>>> overshadowed Basic's weak feature set. Oh yeah, I owe somebody at
>>>>> Microsoft 100 bucks. I don't recall who you are, but don't feel impish
>>>>> about collecting.
>>>>> 5. Vista reminds too much of Windows Me. In late 2006, I had dinner
>>>>> with some Vista user interface designers. By then, I had used Vista
>>>>> betas for nearly 10 months. They heard: There are two Microsoft
>>>>> operating systems that the more I used them the less I liked
>>>>> them-Windows Me and Windows Vista. While not my intention, the comment
>>>>> hugely insulted the UI designers, because of how much Windows Me is
>>>>> regarded, even within Microsoft, as a marketing failure. What
>>>>> happened: Some critics have described Vista as Windows Me II.
>>>>> 6. One Vista version is enough. I opposed Microsoft's Vista SKU
>>>>> strategy from the first presentation and, later, after some tweaking.
>>>>> I explained that Windows isn't toothpaste. Too many versions would
>>>>> confuse customers, creating an unnecessary impediment to Vista
>>>>> upgrades. How could Vista be perceived as better enough if the buying
>>>>> experience was more difficult than XP? I strongly advocated a
>>>>> one-version strategy, but with differentiated OEM pricing depending on
>>>>> features used by the hardware. I reasoned the approach would simplify
>>>>> Windows purchasing while encouraging greater PC differentiation. What
>>>>> happened: The OEM market has largely consolidated around a single
>>>>> version: Vista Home Premium for consumers. It's all Gateway sells, for
>>>>> example. Many enterprises are adopting Vista Enterprise, which is a
>>>>> volume licensing-only option.
>>>>> 7. It has to be multiple SKUs or Windows Experience Index, but not
>>>>> both. WEI would confuse Vista buyers because the ratings would
>>>>> contradict with some versions. For example, Vista Ultimate could
>>>>> conceivably ship on a notebook with WEI of 3.0 (out of a possible
>>>>> 5.9). Customers would ask: If it's so ultimate, why is the rating so
>>>>> slow? I liked the WEI concept more than the SKU strategy and
>>>>> recommended choosing only the ratings scheme. What happened: WEI
>>>>> ratings were low the first year on notebooks, even those with Vista
>>>>> Ultimate.
>>>>> 8. Vista demands too much. From my earliest product briefings,
>>>>> Microsoft executives carted around big honking laptops-luggables-to
>>>>> get enough processing and graphics power to run early Vista builds. I
>>>>> was told Vista would need less power closer to release. Nope. I got my
>>>>> first Vista test system in February 2006. WEI: 2.0, on above-average
>>>>> hardware. What happened: OEMs shipped computers underpowered for
>>>>> Vista, even through holiday 2007. The operating system demands too
>>>>> much from even modestly older hardware.
>>>>> 9. Windows Vista Capable is a bad idea. Why could Microsoft possibly
>>>>> need two Vista logo programs? The connotations around Capable and
>>>>> Ready were either too alike or too confusing. I said that there should
>>>>> be one program for which everything truly was ready. Unfortunately,
>>>>> Microsoft didn't consult me on the logo programs, so I gave my advice
>>>>> after the Capable logo announcement. What happened: A Vista Capable
>>>>> class-action lawsuit revealed embarrassing Microsoft e-mails about
>>>>> Windows Vista decision-making processes-or lack of them.
>>>>> 10. Vista security features increase complexity, decrease usability.
>>>>> Oh, I was a loud critic of UAC (User Account Control) and Internet
>>>>> Explorer warnings. I argued that Microsoft had made Vista much harder
>>>>> to use than Windows XP. The experience would be worse for many users.
>>>>> Going back to #1, Vista had to be a lot better, not perceptually
>>>>> worse. What happened: UAC warnings hurt usability but caused more
>>>>> troubles new user rights mechanism broke many applications.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

[PotsOn]

Bob Campbell wrote:

> "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
> news:47ded194$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>>i can run Linux without a firewall or antivirus for years...
>
> Good for you. I'll see your anecdotal evidence and raise you one. I
> know
> people who have used Windows for years with no AV or firewall. I myself
> never used a firewall until I got a wireless router. I still have no AV
> software on my personal machines.
>
When you manage to figure out how to install AV software on your box, do
come back and let us know all the malware it's found. There will be plenty!

> The only way to get a virus these days is by still being stupid enough to
> click on every internet popup window that volunteers to "speed up your
> computer" if you will just download this great utility! Or by blindly
> clicking on email attachments. Common sense will prevent malware
> infections.

Bullshit! Never heard of drive-by shootings? Guess not.

Cheers.

--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Microsoft Is Watching YOU: http://tinyurl.com/2ptclh

 

[PotsOn]

Frank wrote:

> On the Bridge! (An idiot!) wrote:
>
>> I am ok with people who know all about vista and want it.
>
> Just who the fukk do you think you are?
> You're an idiot!

You're self-projecting again Francis. Take your meds!

Cheers.

>>
>> I even advise people to get vista after I explain some stuff about it..
>
> Oh, that must be hilarious...LOL!
>
>> I always say now get a new computer with vista, not xp, but I make sure
>> the person understands all the implications.. and I discuss his / her
>> work habits and only if he she cannot use vista I say stay with XP.
>
> You do this in front of a mirror, right?
>>
>> I just dont want people to fall for vista thinking its more that it is..
>> or will be some flawless experience
>
> How wonderful of you.
> Frank
>>

--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Microsoft Is Watching YOU: http://tinyurl.com/2ptclh

 

[On the Bridge! \(An MVP upgrade\)]

Ok lets confine to only information inside our brains...


I challenge you openly, although its silly for me a master to fool with a
computer moron like you, I think this must be done so you can at last STFU.

What, are you afraid franky poo?

I am not... Im laughing because I know Ill destroy you.. lol

This will be fun...


"Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
news:%23tmfN9GiIHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> On the Bridge! (An idiot) wrote:
>
>> I challenge you let someone who is neutral post 100 questions about
>> vista,
>> and lets see who will reply better,
>> me or you... lol
>
> You moron...all you do is to google for others.
>>
>> you dont have a chance... lol
>>
> hehehe...hey nut job...I've got all 17 Vista Ultimate installs x32 & x64
> running properly. You on the other hand can't even get one little install
> of Vista to run properly.
> You've already lost...LOL!
> Frank

 

[On the Bridge! \(An MVP upgrade\)]

I have understood a lot about frank from the stuff he tells others..

he is quite transparent.. but that's why Im not mad with the fellow...

I would help him any time, and indeed I could help him.

But the only problem is that he is too negative even to accept help...


"PotsOn" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:frmopo22p9l@news1.newsguy.com...
> Frank wrote:
>
>> On the Bridge! (An idiot!) wrote:
>>
>>> I am ok with people who know all about vista and want it.
>>
>> Just who the fukk do you think you are?
>> You're an idiot!
>
> You're self-projecting again Francis. Take your meds!
>
> Cheers.
>
>>>
>>> I even advise people to get vista after I explain some stuff about it..
>>
>> Oh, that must be hilarious...LOL!
>>
>>> I always say now get a new computer with vista, not xp, but I make sure
>>> the person understands all the implications.. and I discuss his / her
>>> work habits and only if he she cannot use vista I say stay with XP.
>>
>> You do this in front of a mirror, right?
>>>
>>> I just dont want people to fall for vista thinking its more that it is..
>>> or will be some flawless experience
>>
>> How wonderful of you.
>> Frank
>>>
>
> --
> What does Bill Gates use?
> http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl
>
> Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.
>
> Microsoft Is Watching YOU: http://tinyurl.com/2ptclh
>
>

 

[Brian W]

"On the Bridge!" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
news:47de8718@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/vista/10_things_i_warned_microsoft_about_windows_vista.html
>
> this is an article by Joe Wilcox
> and he states:
> "I worked as an analyst when Microsoft developed Windows Vista. Execs
> asked for my advice, and they got it. Did they listen?"
>
> But of course the vistaboys and frank king of the apes, will just
> discredit him too...
> it seems like they think that their own experience is better than US
> pros..
> yes me included... with over 25 years of computer experience, I know when
> an OS is POS.
>
Here's my experience. Vista runs brilliantly on my PC. I don't care what
others say, it's only their experience/opinion.
Has the writer of this article seen my PC working? No, so how can he know
how well it's working here?

Once again you have posted total irrelevence.

 

[On the Bridge! \(An MVP upgrade\)]

Re: an MVP upgrade?

MVPs stink, most of the time they give bad and polarized advice,
inaccuracies.. they would not be an MVP if they didn't kiss some MS but...

With me on the other hand, you get quality advice, without me needing to
kneel for vista.



"Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in message
news:%23GCv7KHiIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
> news:47dece61@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>> this is sad.. I do such imports for fun!
>
> Come on now, you added MVP upgrade to your SIG? I think you got confused.
> Take the cereal box back to the grocery store and ask for a different box.
> Maybe the new box will have a different prize.
>
>
>>
>> frank should stick with what he is good (which must not be very much) and
>> leave the computing to the geeks
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <iamalias@removegmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OkTIe%23FiIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> PotsOn wrote:
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) just post the URL, ok?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you dont read urls franky poo, remember?
>>>>> You stupid dipsh*t loser. I never said I don't read articles, you
>>>>> moron.
>>>>> I said I don't click on URL's in ng's.
>>>>> Got it you idiot!
>>>>
>>>> So you copy and paste a URL link from a ng posting because you haven't
>>>> figured out how to set a default browser to launch a URL contained in a
>>>> ng
>>>> message? That's understandable with the low IQ you have.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>> Frank has a very old, not patched, not supported copy of Mozilla
>>> Mail/News that comes with the Mozilla Suite he downloaded years ago.
>>> This has been replaced with Sea Monkey and/or Firefox-Thunderbird but
>>> Frank is too stupid to upgrade because he thinks, erroneously, that Sea
>>> Monkey and/or Thunderbird won't import his garbage posts and newsgroups.
>>> The Mozilla Suite email/news program will ONLY open the Mozilla browser,
>>> even if you set another browser as the default, which Frank thinks isn't
>>> as safe as Internet Exploder 7. In short, Frank is technically impaired
>>> as well as a total low life who thinks that owning his one copy of Vista
>>> Basic on a crap computer he bought at some place like Best Buy gives him
>>> some kind of status symbol and bragging rights.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>
>

 

[Frank]

PotsOn wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
>
>>On the Bridge! (An idiot!) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I am ok with people who know all about vista and want it.
>>
>>Just who the fukk do you think you are?
>>You're an idiot!
>
>
> You're self-projecting again Francis. Take your meds!

Do they know you're on a computer at that nut house you're in?
You're one really screwed up old POS.
Get some help loser.
Frank

 

[Bill Yanaire]

"On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
news:47dee74d$2@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> thats what I said.. YOU! lol
>
> see? we agree!

Ask your primary care physician to increase your medication. Your
comprehension skills are off. Maybe you should migrate to Ubuntu and go
over to their group and help out those sorry sacks!

You is YOU and NOT me. DUH. So your statement stands. YOU are dumb!


>
>
> "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in message
> news:ujU4P7GiIHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
>> news:47ded51e@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>>> have you seen microsofts vista specifications?
>>> 1 ghz and 512 mb ram they say as the least powerful configuration
>>> needed.
>>>
>>> and that technology is 6 years old at least... since a 1.4 ghz cpu
>>> existed in 2000
>>>
>>> so who is dumb then???
>>>
>>
>> You!
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
>>> news:%23NK9hSEiIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Kind of dumb to try to run a new os on a 6 year old machine. Enjoy
>>>> Linux.
>>>>
>>>> "Administrator" <larsenvl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:3B47F841-1580-425A-8868-058FB8DF0740@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Wow, There needs to be an uprising of disgruntled vista
>>>>> users and microsoft needs to fix the damn thing. (vista)
>>>>> I am a college student and spent good money on updating my pc and also
>>>>> bought a new laptop. Man, was that a mistake! My machine I built in
>>>>> 2002 and has xp on it and runs so much better! I am so disappointed
>>>>> and am investigating open source because I am sick of being at the
>>>>> mercy of an OS that does not function properly.
>>>>> vista sucks the big one! and I cannot even downgrade because they put
>>>>> vista home pre. on the machines I bought. What crap! and thousands of
>>>>> dollars later I have
>>>>> an Os that I do not like! Microsoft better listen to us or linux will
>>>>> be on the horizon and looming large!
>>>>> "On the Bridge!" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
>>>>> news:47de8718@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>>>>>> http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/vista/10_things_i_warned_microsoft_about_windows_vista.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this is an article by Joe Wilcox
>>>>>> and he states:
>>>>>> "I worked as an analyst when Microsoft developed Windows Vista. Execs
>>>>>> asked for my advice, and they got it. Did they listen?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But of course the vistaboys and frank king of the apes, will just
>>>>>> discredit him too...
>>>>>> it seems like they think that their own experience is better than US
>>>>>> pros..
>>>>>> yes me included... with over 25 years of computer experience, I know
>>>>>> when an OS is POS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> let the mud flow freely for vista!
>>>>>> let the truth shine, and THEN lets decide if we should use it or
>>>>>> not...
>>>>>> not get it shoved down our throughts in the dark (not mine but the
>>>>>> average user)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> here is the text of the article
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The imminent real release of Windows Vista Service Pack 1 is reason
>>>>>> enough to broach the question. SP1 is an important milestone for an
>>>>>> operating system that bloggers and other critics consistently
>>>>>> ridicule. Oh, yeah, the channel and enterprises aren't exactly loving
>>>>>> Vista either.
>>>>>> These 10 things are in no particular order of importance.
>>>>>> 1. Windows Vista has to be a whole lot better than Windows XP.
>>>>>> Microsoft had left XP in the market for a long time. That version of
>>>>>> Windows had reached a certain "good enough" threshold, in part
>>>>>> because of the stable, supporting ecosystem. Vista would have to be a
>>>>>> whole lot better to drive upgrades in established markets. I received
>>>>>> assurances that Vista would deliver on the promise, which was later
>>>>>> accentuated in the "Wow" marketing. What happened: Vista wasn't
>>>>>> better enough.
>>>>>> 2. Vista will miss the big PC upgrade cycle. A major enterprise PC
>>>>>> refresh cycle started in 2004 and continued through mid-2006. In
>>>>>> early 2006, I warned Microsoft executives that Vista would ship too
>>>>>> late. What happened: The major upgrade cycle wound down, but computer
>>>>>> sales remained strong because of consumer upgrades and a massive
>>>>>> shift to portables. So, Vista missed the big hardware refresh cycle
>>>>>> but caught another one. However, in part because of #1, many
>>>>>> businesses opted for Windows XP instead of Vista on those shiny, new
>>>>>> notebooks.
>>>>>> 3. Windows Vista Home Basic is too basic. I strongly recommended
>>>>>> against Microsoft's releasing this version at any price. Microsoft
>>>>>> executives insisted that OEMs wanted a low-cost Vista version for
>>>>>> cheap PCs. But Basic offered less than Windows XP Home for about the
>>>>>> same price. I called it a hidden price increase. What happened: There
>>>>>> is limited demand for Home Basic.
>>>>>> 4. Call it Windows Basic. Vista Home Basic was so defeatured, I
>>>>>> strongly encouraged Microsoft to remove the Vista name from the
>>>>>> product. I warned that Basic would tarnish the broader Vista brand
>>>>>> and that its streamlined features put it in a lower category. I bet a
>>>>>> Microsoft product manager $100 that Windows Basic would become the
>>>>>> default nomenclature. What happened: Other problems affecting every
>>>>>> Vista version, such as applications and drivers incompatibilities,
>>>>>> overshadowed Basic's weak feature set. Oh yeah, I owe somebody at
>>>>>> Microsoft 100 bucks. I don't recall who you are, but don't feel
>>>>>> impish about collecting.
>>>>>> 5. Vista reminds too much of Windows Me. In late 2006, I had dinner
>>>>>> with some Vista user interface designers. By then, I had used Vista
>>>>>> betas for nearly 10 months. They heard: There are two Microsoft
>>>>>> operating systems that the more I used them the less I liked
>>>>>> them-Windows Me and Windows Vista. While not my intention, the
>>>>>> comment hugely insulted the UI designers, because of how much Windows
>>>>>> Me is regarded, even within Microsoft, as a marketing failure. What
>>>>>> happened: Some critics have described Vista as Windows Me II.
>>>>>> 6. One Vista version is enough. I opposed Microsoft's Vista SKU
>>>>>> strategy from the first presentation and, later, after some tweaking.
>>>>>> I explained that Windows isn't toothpaste. Too many versions would
>>>>>> confuse customers, creating an unnecessary impediment to Vista
>>>>>> upgrades. How could Vista be perceived as better enough if the buying
>>>>>> experience was more difficult than XP? I strongly advocated a
>>>>>> one-version strategy, but with differentiated OEM pricing depending
>>>>>> on features used by the hardware. I reasoned the approach would
>>>>>> simplify Windows purchasing while encouraging greater PC
>>>>>> differentiation. What happened: The OEM market has largely
>>>>>> consolidated around a single version: Vista Home Premium for
>>>>>> consumers. It's all Gateway sells, for example. Many enterprises are
>>>>>> adopting Vista Enterprise, which is a volume licensing-only option.
>>>>>> 7. It has to be multiple SKUs or Windows Experience Index, but not
>>>>>> both. WEI would confuse Vista buyers because the ratings would
>>>>>> contradict with some versions. For example, Vista Ultimate could
>>>>>> conceivably ship on a notebook with WEI of 3.0 (out of a possible
>>>>>> 5.9). Customers would ask: If it's so ultimate, why is the rating so
>>>>>> slow? I liked the WEI concept more than the SKU strategy and
>>>>>> recommended choosing only the ratings scheme. What happened: WEI
>>>>>> ratings were low the first year on notebooks, even those with Vista
>>>>>> Ultimate.
>>>>>> 8. Vista demands too much. From my earliest product briefings,
>>>>>> Microsoft executives carted around big honking laptops-luggables-to
>>>>>> get enough processing and graphics power to run early Vista builds. I
>>>>>> was told Vista would need less power closer to release. Nope. I got
>>>>>> my first Vista test system in February 2006. WEI: 2.0, on
>>>>>> above-average hardware. What happened: OEMs shipped computers
>>>>>> underpowered for Vista, even through holiday 2007. The operating
>>>>>> system demands too much from even modestly older hardware.
>>>>>> 9. Windows Vista Capable is a bad idea. Why could Microsoft possibly
>>>>>> need two Vista logo programs? The connotations around Capable and
>>>>>> Ready were either too alike or too confusing. I said that there
>>>>>> should be one program for which everything truly was ready.
>>>>>> Unfortunately, Microsoft didn't consult me on the logo programs, so I
>>>>>> gave my advice after the Capable logo announcement. What happened: A
>>>>>> Vista Capable class-action lawsuit revealed embarrassing Microsoft
>>>>>> e-mails about Windows Vista decision-making processes-or lack of
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>> 10. Vista security features increase complexity, decrease usability.
>>>>>> Oh, I was a loud critic of UAC (User Account Control) and Internet
>>>>>> Explorer warnings. I argued that Microsoft had made Vista much harder
>>>>>> to use than Windows XP. The experience would be worse for many users.
>>>>>> Going back to #1, Vista had to be a lot better, not perceptually
>>>>>> worse. What happened: UAC warnings hurt usability but caused more
>>>>>> troubles new user rights mechanism broke many applications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

[Frank]

PotsOn wrote:

>
>>
>
> When you manage to figure out how to install AV software on your box, do
> come back and let us know all the malware it's found. There will be plenty!
>

When you figure out how to find your way back to that mental institution
you've escaped from, let us all know. Our kids will then be safer.
You're one whacked out loser.
Frank