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PA Bear [MS MVP]

Publicly available source?

MEB wrote:
> Home Land Security - US CERT
>
> http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/signup.html
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O8ir7kIrIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Source, please?
>>
>> MEB wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> BTW: Homeland Security [those government docs I post here] just issued a
>>> WARNING concerning the use of these types of services, citng in fact,
>>> MSN/Live as one of the examples....
 
M

MEB

http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/tips/ST05-009.html

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MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
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"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e6DyZ%23IrIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| Publicly available source?
|
| MEB wrote:
| > Home Land Security - US CERT
| >
| > http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/signup.html
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| >
| > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:O8ir7kIrIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| >> Source, please?
| >>
| >> MEB wrote:
| >> <snip>
| >>> BTW: Homeland Security [those government docs I post here] just issued
a
| >>> WARNING concerning the use of these types of services, citng in fact,
| >>> MSN/Live as one of the examples....
|
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

"MSN/Live" is not cited anywhere on that page.

>>>>> Parties have a reasonable expectation that a service will
>>>>> perform in the form for which it is presented.


Nor is there anything pertinent to the above.

PS: "Copyright 2005 Carnegie Mellon University"
--
~PA Bear


MEB wrote:
> http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/tips/ST05-009.html
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e6DyZ%23IrIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Publicly available source?
>>
>> MEB wrote:
>>> Home Land Security - US CERT
>>>
>>> http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/signup.html
>>>
>>> --
>>> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:O8ir7kIrIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Source, please?
>>>>
>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>> <snip>
>>>>> Parties have a reasonable expectation that a service will
>>>>> perform in the form for which it is presented.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW: Homeland Security [those government docs I post here] just issued
>>>>> a
>>>>> WARNING concerning the use of these types of services, citng in fact,
>>>>> MSN/Live as one of the examples....
 
M

MEB

" Many service providers offer free email accounts (e.g., Yahoo!,
Hotmail, Gmail)." now let's see MSN was Hotmail, Hotmail became Live...
ah duh, think they might be the same.

PA, really the statement comes from court rulings... get a grip dude...
your Windows pants are showing...

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MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
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"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23m27bKKrIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| "MSN/Live" is not cited anywhere on that page.
|
| >>>>> Parties have a reasonable expectation that a service will
| >>>>> perform in the form for which it is presented.
|
| Nor is there anything pertinent to the above.
|
| PS: "Copyright 2005 Carnegie Mellon University"
| --
| ~PA Bear
|
|
| MEB wrote:
| > http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/tips/ST05-009.html
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| >
| > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:e6DyZ%23IrIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| >> Publicly available source?
| >>
| >> MEB wrote:
| >>> Home Land Security - US CERT
| >>>
| >>> http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/signup.html
| >>>
| >>> --
| >>> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| >>>
| >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
| >>> news:O8ir7kIrIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| >>>> Source, please?
| >>>>
| >>>> MEB wrote:
| >>>> <snip>
| >>>>> Parties have a reasonable expectation that a service will
| >>>>> perform in the form for which it is presented.
| >>>>>
| >>>>> BTW: Homeland Security [those government docs I post here] just
issued
| >>>>> a
| >>>>> WARNING concerning the use of these types of services, citng in
fact,
| >>>>> MSN/Live as one of the examples....
|
 
N

N. Miller

On Fri, 2 May 2008 17:43:34 -0400, MEB wrote:

> http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/tips/ST05-009.html


Our government concerned about our privacy? This would be the same
government whose NSA has violated our Constitutional rights through
warrantless wiretaps on the AT&T data transit network? There's a laugh.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
 
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N. Miller

On Thu, 1 May 2008 19:58:57 -0400, MEB wrote:

> ...are run through the Live filters which chop up the message into headers and
> body text as an attachment OR removes the original formatting and ATTEMPTS to
> make it web
HTML:
 style...[/color]

That make absolutely no sense whatsoever. The messages are not "chopped up"
by "filters", they are displayed according to the MIME encoded instructions.
If you receive email from some client which mangles the MIME encoding on the
sending end, the receiving client sometimes does not know how to unmangle
what was sent.

-- 
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
 
M

MEB

So "chopped up" is worse or less descriptive than "mangled", right, got
it...

"Filters" {which are actually coding} and advertising additions are
modifications ADDED or USED by servers, which happens to be the Live
service. A service which, until recently, DID NOT cause these issues. The
messages on the service displayed exactly as sent, and could be forwarded
out and received in that same fashion/format. Hence, the issue is the new
coding/filters now being used, as nothing has change in the client
configuration on this machine.

So you don't like my simply explanation, and we are now dealing in
semantics... got it...

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MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message
news:101wfm784h6ao$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...
| On Thu, 1 May 2008 19:58:57 -0400, MEB wrote:
|
| > ...are run through the Live filters which chop up the message into
headers and
| > body text as an attachment OR removes the original formatting and
ATTEMPTS to
| > make it web
HTML:
 style...
|
| That make absolutely no sense whatsoever. The messages are not "chopped
up"
| by "filters", they are displayed according to the MIME encoded
instructions.
| If you receive email from some client which mangles the MIME encoding on
the
| sending end, the receiving client sometimes does not know how to unmangle
| what was sent.
|
| -- 
| Norman
| ~Oh Lord, why have you come
| ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
 

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