Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

[MEB]

Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM technology,
seems intent on extending device control.

Whatcha tink???

http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/06/13/microsoft-sets-up-digital-manners-police

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[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

I think:

=> The fact that MS has patented the technology does not mean it's being
used anywhere yet and people like you are being excessively alarmist

=> It's a stretch to compare this technology to DRM

"You walk into a movie theater, the movie theater sets your mobile phone to
vibrate for you."

=> Excellent! Wish it would disable the ability to make calls while in the
theater, too (bonus points for stuffing a sock in chatty people's mouths)

"You stroll into a museum, the museum disables the flash on your camera or
disables your camera altogether."

=> Excellent! Protects copyrights and fragile artwork

"You get too close to the cockpit, any wireless device at risk of
interfering is shut off."

=> Excellent! Have it disable any wireless device altogether unless
passengers are embarking or disembarking, and it'll be even better. Hope
they use it in all forms of public tranportation, too.
--
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www.KillAllTheLawyers.mvp



MEB wrote:
> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM technology,
> seems intent on extending device control.
>
> Whatcha tink???
>
> http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/06/13/microsoft-sets-up-digital-manners-police

 

[MEB]

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eW9o8Z51IHA.5512@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| I think:
|
| => The fact that MS has patented the technology does not mean it's being
| used anywhere yet and people like you are being excessively alarmist

Excuse me,, did I write the article... I don't think so...

|
| => It's a stretch to compare this technology to DRM
|
| "You walk into a movie theater, the movie theater sets your mobile phone
to
| vibrate for you."
|
| => Excellent! Wish it would disable the ability to make calls while in the
| theater, too (bonus points for stuffing a sock in chatty people's mouths)

Oh me too. and the dirtier the sock the better... but this is the plus
side, the other side is that numerous people DO use their cells to copy
stage productions and other to their home computers. IT IS ILLEGAL, but is
turning off the ringer the intent or is it more likely to disable cell
phones entirely. {which I would support, kill the technology all together]

|
| "You stroll into a museum, the museum disables the flash on your camera or
| disables your camera altogether."
|
| => Excellent! Protects copyrights and fragile artwork
|
| "You get too close to the cockpit, any wireless device at risk of
| interfering is shut off."
|
| => Excellent! Have it disable any wireless device altogether unless
| passengers are embarking or disembarking, and it'll be even better. Hope
| they use it in all forms of public tranportation, too.
| --
| ~PA Bear
| www.KillAllTheLawyers.mvp
|

So the above is the up side, but there are ALWAYS two sides to any coin.
The writer(s) attempted to address the potentials that could be associated
with other uses. Blanking out all cell phones with cameras could be
extremely misused by enforcement agencies. Hacking the control systems
software could leave entire houses, buildings, or cities at the mercy of the
hacker or other criminals.

Let's say you have your home controlled, using these controls and software,
someone hacks the system while you and your family are in the home, say at
night.
There is no automatic call to the security agency because its part of the
networked control system and has been disabled.
There's no phone system, because that was tied in as well.
There's no cell phones because your cells were tied in via their IDs.
No lights, they were controlled by the system.
Your electronic locks are disabled.
Your video security cameras and devices have also been disabled.
Your cars are disabled as they were tied in also.
Your hand gun or other you bought for protection has an electronically
"safety" which has also been locked/disabled so it can't be used.

Now explain WHY you think this is good technology.. oh wait, you were
likely beaten into coma or killed during this crime. So was the rest of your
family... guess your opinion is now non-existant, as you no longer exist.

To ignore the other potential uses while keying on those "things you want"
because they annoy you, would seem to be another instance of placing a
bullseye on your forehead, handing out sledge hammers, publicly posting your
"full responsibility statement' in which you and your attorneys obsolve any
others of responsibility, and asking people to hit the bullseye to prove
your invincable. I would bet your not.

|
|
| MEB wrote:
| > Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM technology,
| > seems intent on extending device control.
| >
| > Whatcha tink???
| >
| >
http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/06/13/microsoft-sets-up-digital-manners-police
|
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[dadiOH]

MEB wrote:
> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM
> technology, seems intent on extending device control.
>
> Whatcha tink???

I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental effort to
control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco
parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance of
responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's whelps.
Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.

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[Bill in Co.]

dadiOH wrote:
> MEB wrote:
>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM
>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.
>>
>> Whatcha tink???
>
> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental effort to
> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco
> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance of
> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's whelps.
> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.

Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,
unfortunately.

 

[John Dulak]

dadiOH wrote:
> MEB wrote:
>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM
>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.
>>
>> Whatcha tink???
>
> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental effort to
> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco
> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance of
> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's whelps.
> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.
>

dadiO:

Fascinating Fact No. 6E9

http://mysite.verizon.net/jdulak1/6billion.htm

John

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[Dan]

It would be nice if people just had respect for each other. I do not really
want technology turning off my gadgets but if you go to the opening night of
a good movie you really want to see then I would hope people would be
courteous enough to silence their cellphone or at least turn it to vibrate.
If the person is spending $10 or so dollars to see a movie then the person
should be responsible enough to budget time to see the movie and silence
their gadgets and allow themselves to be wrapped up in a fantasy world for a
little while. That is my 2 cents.

"John Dulak" wrote:

> dadiOH wrote:
> > MEB wrote:
> >> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM
> >> technology, seems intent on extending device control.
> >>
> >> Whatcha tink???
> >
> > I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental effort to
> > control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco
> > parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance of
> > responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's whelps.
> > Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.
> >
>
> dadiO:
>
> Fascinating Fact No. 6E9
>
> http://mysite.verizon.net/jdulak1/6billion.htm
>
> John
>
> --
> \\\||///
> ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o----------------
> ----------------------------()--------------------------
> '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. ''
>
> John Dulak - Gnomeway Services - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then realized
what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably thought the
same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little angel,
they were at least saying the same things about young people in general.
What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short skirts
and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the "responsible"
people were calling everyone and their cat communists and blacklisting was
so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?

I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is
overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This would
also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who have been
stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That means
policy maker in the Federal government.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> dadiOH wrote:
>> MEB wrote:
>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM
>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.
>>>
>>> Whatcha tink???
>>
>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental effort
>> to
>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco
>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance of
>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's whelps.
>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.
>
> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,
> unfortunately.
>

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

<ROFL>

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then realized
> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably thought
> the
> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little
> angel,
> they were at least saying the same things about young people in general.
> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short skirts
> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the
> "responsible"
> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and blacklisting was
> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?
>
> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is
> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This would
> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who have
> been
> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That means
> policy maker in the Federal government.)
>
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> dadiOH wrote:
>>> MEB wrote:
>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM
>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.
>>>>
>>>> Whatcha tink???
>>>
>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental effort
>>> to
>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco
>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance of
>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's
>>> whelps.
>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.
>>
>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,
>> unfortunately.

 

[Bill in Co.]

These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!

Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over all
time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has been NO
change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal accountability, in
blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of lawsuits
today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of neighborhoods, etc,
etc. (I probably was just on acid when I wrote that).

ROFL.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then realized
> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably thought
> the
> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little
> angel,
> they were at least saying the same things about young people in general.
> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short skirts
> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the
> "responsible"
> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and blacklisting was
> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?
>
> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is
> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This would
> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who have
> been
> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That means
> policy maker in the Federal government.)
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> dadiOH wrote:
>>> MEB wrote:
>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM
>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.
>>>>
>>>> Whatcha tink???
>>>
>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental effort
>>> to
>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco
>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance of
>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's
>>> whelps.
>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.
>>
>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,
>> unfortunately.

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Whine, whine, whine...

Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of ourselves,
our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you whine about is a
direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.

No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get up and
out of the way of history, whatever its course.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!
>
> Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over all
> time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has been NO
> change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal accountability,
> in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of
> lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of
> neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I wrote
> that).
>
> ROFL.
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then realized
>> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably thought
>> the
>> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little
>> angel,
>> they were at least saying the same things about young people in general.
>> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short skirts
>> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the
>> "responsible"
>> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and blacklisting
>> was
>> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?
>>
>> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is
>> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This would
>> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who have
>> been
>> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That
>> means
>> policy maker in the Federal government.)
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> dadiOH wrote:
>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM
>>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whatcha tink???
>>>>
>>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental effort
>>>> to
>>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco
>>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance of
>>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's
>>>> whelps.
>>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.
>>>
>>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,
>>> unfortunately.
>
>

 

[Bill in Co.]

No worries. The (now irreversible) manmade global warming will resolve
mankind's BS, once and for all (including ALL wars and famine, and other
idiocies), but not in our lifetime. But in the end, justice will be
served, and "we" will reap what we have sowed. I find there is some
consolation in knowing that.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> Whine, whine, whine...
>
> Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of
> ourselves,
> our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you whine about is a
> direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.
>
> No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get up and
> out of the way of history, whatever its course.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!
>>
>> Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over all
>> time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has been NO
>> change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal accountability,
>> in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of
>> lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of
>> neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I wrote
>> that).
>>
>> ROFL.
>>
>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>>> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then realized
>>> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably thought
>>> the
>>> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little
>>> angel,
>>> they were at least saying the same things about young people in general.
>>> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short
>>> skirts
>>> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the
>>> "responsible"
>>> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and blacklisting
>>> was
>>> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?
>>>
>>> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is
>>> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This
>>> would
>>> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who have
>>> been
>>> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That
>>> means
>>> policy maker in the Federal government.)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> dadiOH wrote:
>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM
>>>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whatcha tink???
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental
>>>>> effort
>>>>> to
>>>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco
>>>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance of
>>>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's
>>>>> whelps.
>>>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.
>>>>
>>>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,
>>>> unfortunately.

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

While I agree with your prognosis 100%, I find no consolation at all. I feel
nothing but unutterable guilt.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:uLMbGfM2IHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> No worries. The (now irreversible) manmade global warming will resolve
> mankind's BS, once and for all (including ALL wars and famine, and other
> idiocies), but not in our lifetime. But in the end, justice will be
> served, and "we" will reap what we have sowed. I find there is some
> consolation in knowing that.
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> Whine, whine, whine...
>>
>> Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of
>> ourselves,
>> our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you whine about is a
>> direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.
>>
>> No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get up
>> and
>> out of the way of history, whatever its course.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!
>>>
>>> Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over all
>>> time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has been
>>> NO
>>> change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal accountability,
>>> in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of
>>> lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of
>>> neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I wrote
>>> that).
>>>
>>> ROFL.
>>>
>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>>>> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then
>>>> realized
>>>> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably
>>>> thought
>>>> the
>>>> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little
>>>> angel,
>>>> they were at least saying the same things about young people in
>>>> general.
>>>> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short
>>>> skirts
>>>> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the
>>>> "responsible"
>>>> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and blacklisting
>>>> was
>>>> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?
>>>>
>>>> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is
>>>> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This
>>>> would
>>>> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who have
>>>> been
>>>> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That
>>>> means
>>>> policy maker in the Federal government.)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>>
>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> dadiOH wrote:
>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM
>>>>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whatcha tink???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental
>>>>>> effort
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco
>>>>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's
>>>>>> whelps.
>>>>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,
>>>>> unfortunately.
>
>

 

[Jim]

Sort of like the movie "Wild in the Streets". Everybody over age thirty is
sent to the old age camps where they make A-bombs on LSD served in Dixie
cups. The movie ends with long haired youths standing on the bluffs of
Katowice or Nowa Huta.
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:uNwiOoL2IHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Whine, whine, whine...
>
> Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of
ourselves,
> our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you whine about is a
> direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.
>
> No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get up and
> out of the way of history, whatever its course.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!
> >
> > Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over all
> > time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has been
NO
> > change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal accountability,
> > in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of
> > lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of
> > neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I wrote
> > that).
> >
> > ROFL.
> >
> > Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> >> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then
realized
> >> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably
thought
> >> the
> >> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little
> >> angel,
> >> they were at least saying the same things about young people in
general.
> >> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short
skirts
> >> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the
> >> "responsible"
> >> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and blacklisting
> >> was
> >> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?
> >>
> >> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is
> >> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This
would
> >> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who have
> >> been
> >> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That
> >> means
> >> policy maker in the Federal government.)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> http://grystmill.com
> >>
> >> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >>> dadiOH wrote:
> >>>> MEB wrote:
> >>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM
> >>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Whatcha tink???
> >>>>
> >>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental
effort
> >>>> to
> >>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco
> >>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance
of
> >>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's
> >>>> whelps.
> >>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.
> >>>
> >>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,
> >>> unfortunately.
> >
> >
>
>

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

[GAry was in that movie! <eg>]

Jim wrote:
> Sort of like the movie "Wild in the Streets". Everybody over age thirty is
> sent to the old age camps where they make A-bombs on LSD served in Dixie
> cups. The movie ends with long haired youths standing on the bluffs of
> Katowice or Nowa Huta.
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:uNwiOoL2IHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Whine, whine, whine...
>>
>> Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of
>> ourselves, our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you whine
>> about is a direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.
>>
>> No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get up
>> and
>> out of the way of history, whatever its course.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!
>>>
>>> Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over all
>>> time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has been
>>> NO
>>> change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal accountability,
>>> in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of
>>> lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of
>>> neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I wrote
>>> that).
>>>
>>> ROFL.
>>>
>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>>>> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then
>>>> realized
>>>> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably
>>>> thought
>>>> the
>>>> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little
>>>> angel,
>>>> they were at least saying the same things about young people in
>>>> general.
>>>> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short
>>>> skirts
>>>> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the
>>>> "responsible"
>>>> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and blacklisting
>>>> was
>>>> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?
>>>>
>>>> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is
>>>> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This
>>>> would
>>>> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who have
>>>> been
>>>> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That
>>>> means
>>>> policy maker in the Federal government.)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>>
>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> dadiOH wrote:
>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM
>>>>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whatcha tink???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental
>>>>>> effort
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco
>>>>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's
>>>>>> whelps.
>>>>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,
>>>>> unfortunately.

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Gonna have to look that one up.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23$qelhM2IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Sort of like the movie "Wild in the Streets". Everybody over age thirty is
> sent to the old age camps where they make A-bombs on LSD served in Dixie
> cups. The movie ends with long haired youths standing on the bluffs of
> Katowice or Nowa Huta.
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:uNwiOoL2IHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Whine, whine, whine...
>>
>> Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of
> ourselves,
>> our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you whine about is a
>> direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.
>>
>> No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get up
>> and
>> out of the way of history, whatever its course.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!
>> >
>> > Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over
>> > all
>> > time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has been
> NO
>> > change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal
>> > accountability,
>> > in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of
>> > lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of
>> > neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I wrote
>> > that).
>> >
>> > ROFL.
>> >
>> > Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> >> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then
> realized
>> >> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably
> thought
>> >> the
>> >> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little
>> >> angel,
>> >> they were at least saying the same things about young people in
> general.
>> >> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short
> skirts
>> >> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the
>> >> "responsible"
>> >> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and blacklisting
>> >> was
>> >> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?
>> >>
>> >> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is
>> >> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This
> would
>> >> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who
>> >> have
>> >> been
>> >> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That
>> >> means
>> >> policy maker in the Federal government.)
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> http://grystmill.com
>> >>
>> >> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >>> dadiOH wrote:
>> >>>> MEB wrote:
>> >>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM
>> >>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Whatcha tink???
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental
> effort
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco
>> >>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance
> of
>> >>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's
>> >>>> whelps.
>> >>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.
>> >>>
>> >>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,
>> >>> unfortunately.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Ahhh... So that's why I can't remember it.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OpAQfsN2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> [GAry was in that movie! <eg>]
>
> Jim wrote:
>> Sort of like the movie "Wild in the Streets". Everybody over age thirty
>> is
>> sent to the old age camps where they make A-bombs on LSD served in Dixie
>> cups. The movie ends with long haired youths standing on the bluffs of
>> Katowice or Nowa Huta.
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:uNwiOoL2IHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Whine, whine, whine...
>>>
>>> Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of
>>> ourselves, our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you whine
>>> about is a direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.
>>>
>>> No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get up
>>> and
>>> out of the way of history, whatever its course.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!
>>>>
>>>> Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over
>>>> all
>>>> time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has been
>>>> NO
>>>> change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal
>>>> accountability,
>>>> in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of
>>>> lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of
>>>> neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I wrote
>>>> that).
>>>>
>>>> ROFL.
>>>>
>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>>>>> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then
>>>>> realized
>>>>> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably
>>>>> thought
>>>>> the
>>>>> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little
>>>>> angel,
>>>>> they were at least saying the same things about young people in
>>>>> general.
>>>>> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short
>>>>> skirts
>>>>> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the
>>>>> "responsible"
>>>>> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and blacklisting
>>>>> was
>>>>> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is
>>>>> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This
>>>>> would
>>>>> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who
>>>>> have
>>>>> been
>>>>> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That
>>>>> means
>>>>> policy maker in the Federal government.)
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> dadiOH wrote:
>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM
>>>>>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Whatcha tink???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental
>>>>>>> effort
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco
>>>>>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's
>>>>>>> whelps.
>>>>>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,
>>>>>> unfortunately.
>

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Your torrid off-screen affair with Shelley Winters was the talk of the town!
Hal Holbrook and Ed Begley (Sr.) were green with envy...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063808/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063808/plotsummary

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> Ahhh... So that's why I can't remember it.
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OpAQfsN2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> [GAry was in that movie! <eg>]
>>
>> Jim wrote:
>>> Sort of like the movie "Wild in the Streets". Everybody over age thirty
>>> is
>>> sent to the old age camps where they make A-bombs on LSD served in Dixie
>>> cups. The movie ends with long haired youths standing on the bluffs of
>>> Katowice or Nowa Huta.
>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>> news:uNwiOoL2IHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Whine, whine, whine...
>>>>
>>>> Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of
>>>> ourselves, our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you whine
>>>> about is a direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.
>>>>
>>>> No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get up
>>>> and
>>>> out of the way of history, whatever its course.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>>
>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over
>>>>> all
>>>>> time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has been
>>>>> NO
>>>>> change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal
>>>>> accountability,
>>>>> in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of
>>>>> lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of
>>>>> neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I wrote
>>>>> that).
>>>>>
>>>>> ROFL.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>>>>>> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then
>>>>>> realized
>>>>>> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably
>>>>>> thought
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little
>>>>>> angel,
>>>>>> they were at least saying the same things about young people in
>>>>>> general.
>>>>>> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short
>>>>>> skirts
>>>>>> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the
>>>>>> "responsible"
>>>>>> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and
>>>>>> blacklisting
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is
>>>>>> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That
>>>>>> means
>>>>>> policy maker in the Federal government.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> dadiOH wrote:
>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM
>>>>>>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Whatcha tink???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental
>>>>>>>> effort
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco
>>>>>>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's
>>>>>>>> whelps.
>>>>>>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades
>>>>>>> ago,
>>>>>>> unfortunately.

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

LOL!

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OF82bYT2IHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Your torrid off-screen affair with Shelley Winters was the talk of the
> town! Hal Holbrook and Ed Begley (Sr.) were green with envy...
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063808/
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063808/plotsummary
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> Ahhh... So that's why I can't remember it.
>>
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OpAQfsN2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> [GAry was in that movie! <eg>]
>>>
>>> Jim wrote:
>>>> Sort of like the movie "Wild in the Streets". Everybody over age thirty
>>>> is
>>>> sent to the old age camps where they make A-bombs on LSD served in
>>>> Dixie
>>>> cups. The movie ends with long haired youths standing on the bluffs of
>>>> Katowice or Nowa Huta.
>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>> news:uNwiOoL2IHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Whine, whine, whine...
>>>>>
>>>>> Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of
>>>>> ourselves, our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you whine
>>>>> about is a direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get up
>>>>> and
>>>>> out of the way of history, whatever its course.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> NO
>>>>>> change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal
>>>>>> accountability,
>>>>>> in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of
>>>>>> lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of
>>>>>> neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I wrote
>>>>>> that).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROFL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>>>>>>> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then
>>>>>>> realized
>>>>>>> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably
>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a
>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>> angel,
>>>>>>> they were at least saying the same things about young people in
>>>>>>> general.
>>>>>>> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short
>>>>>>> skirts
>>>>>>> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the
>>>>>>> "responsible"
>>>>>>> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and
>>>>>>> blacklisting
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is
>>>>>>> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That
>>>>>>> means
>>>>>>> policy maker in the Federal government.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> dadiOH wrote:
>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM
>>>>>>>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Whatcha tink???
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental
>>>>>>>>> effort
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco
>>>>>>>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little
>>>>>>>>> acceptance
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's
>>>>>>>>> whelps.
>>>>>>>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades
>>>>>>>> ago,
>>>>>>>> unfortunately.
>

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

[This NG and you needed a little levity.]

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> LOL!
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OF82bYT2IHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Your torrid off-screen affair with Shelley Winters was the talk of the
>> town! Hal Holbrook and Ed Begley (Sr.) were green with envy...
>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063808/
>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063808/plotsummary
>>
>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>>> Ahhh... So that's why I can't remember it.
>>>
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OpAQfsN2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> [GAry was in that movie! <eg>]
>>>>
>>>> Jim wrote:
>>>>> Sort of like the movie "Wild in the Streets". Everybody over age
>>>>> thirty
>>>>> is
>>>>> sent to the old age camps where they make A-bombs on LSD served in
>>>>> Dixie
>>>>> cups. The movie ends with long haired youths standing on the bluffs
>>>>> of
>>>>> Katowice or Nowa Huta.
>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uNwiOoL2IHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Whine, whine, whine...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of
>>>>>> ourselves, our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you
>>>>>> whine
>>>>>> about is a direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> out of the way of history, whatever its course.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> NO
>>>>>>> change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal
>>>>>>> accountability,
>>>>>>> in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of
>>>>>>> lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of
>>>>>>> neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I
>>>>>>> wrote
>>>>>>> that).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROFL.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>>>>>>>> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then
>>>>>>>> realized
>>>>>>>> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably
>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a
>>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>>> angel,
>>>>>>>> they were at least saying the same things about young people in
>>>>>>>> general.
>>>>>>>> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short
>>>>>>>> skirts
>>>>>>>> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the
>>>>>>>> "responsible"
>>>>>>>> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and
>>>>>>>> blacklisting
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is
>>>>>>>> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age.
>>>>>>>> (That
>>>>>>>> means
>>>>>>>> policy maker in the Federal government.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> dadiOH wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM
>>>>>>>>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Whatcha tink???
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental
>>>>>>>>>> effort
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco
>>>>>>>>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little
>>>>>>>>>> acceptance
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's
>>>>>>>>>> whelps.
>>>>>>>>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many
>>>>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades
>>>>>>>>> ago,
>>>>>>>>> unfortunately.