Re: [News] Amarok 2.0 Approaches Release

M

Moshe Goldfarb.

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:27:55 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Malina - First alpha release of Amarok 2.0


Amarok never should have made it to V1.0...
It's a slow, bloated, buggy program that can't deal with large amounts of
files and trips all over itself.
On top of that the user interface ranks amongst the worst on the planet.

If ever there was a poster child for Linux/OSS basement ware, slop ware,
Amarok is it....

And BTW Amarok has a lot of potential but it just isn't ready yet and to
put a V2.0 version on it is a scam....




--
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Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
 
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Snit

"Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> stated in post
tcr2rr2s0w01$.1urei5yqkynyf.dlg@40tude.net on 7/12/08 5:54 PM:

> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:27:55 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> Malina - First alpha release of Amarok 2.0

>
> Amarok never should have made it to V1.0...
> It's a slow, bloated, buggy program that can't deal with large amounts of
> files and trips all over itself.
> On top of that the user interface ranks amongst the worst on the planet.
>
> If ever there was a poster child for Linux/OSS basement ware, slop ware,
> Amarok is it....
>
> And BTW Amarok has a lot of potential but it just isn't ready yet and to
> put a V2.0 version on it is a scam....


I find it funny that a music organizer / player asks the user on install
what database they want to use. What? Sure, some techie folks might care
but if you going to have such an odd option why not have a default and let
the techies change it if they want? Heck, have an advanced install option
if you want it set up at install - right now it is just silly.


--
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing. - Unknown
 
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Rick

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:02:48 -0700, Snit wrote:

> "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> stated in post
> tcr2rr2s0w01$.1urei5yqkynyf.dlg@40tude.net on 7/12/08 5:54 PM:
>
>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:27:55 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> Malina - First alpha release of Amarok 2.0

>>
>> Amarok never should have made it to V1.0... It's a slow, bloated, buggy
>> program that can't deal with large amounts of files and trips all over
>> itself.
>> On top of that the user interface ranks amongst the worst on the
>> planet.
>>
>> If ever there was a poster child for Linux/OSS basement ware, slop
>> ware, Amarok is it....
>>
>> And BTW Amarok has a lot of potential but it just isn't ready yet and
>> to put a V2.0 version on it is a scam....

>
> I find it funny that a music organizer / player asks the user on install
> what database they want to use. What? Sure, some techie folks might
> care but if you going to have such an odd option why not have a default
> and let the techies change it if they want?


So, what is "default" database that is installed with each Linux based
distro?

> Heck, have an advanced
> install option if you want it set up at install - right now it is just
> silly.


No, right now it is different from what you are used to.

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"Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
news:C49EA248.C7899%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com...
> "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> stated in post
> tcr2rr2s0w01$.1urei5yqkynyf.dlg@40tude.net on 7/12/08 5:54 PM:
>
>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:27:55 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> Malina - First alpha release of Amarok 2.0

>>
>> Amarok never should have made it to V1.0...
>> It's a slow, bloated, buggy program that can't deal with large amounts of
>> files and trips all over itself.
>> On top of that the user interface ranks amongst the worst on the planet.
>>
>> If ever there was a poster child for Linux/OSS basement ware, slop ware,
>> Amarok is it....
>>
>> And BTW Amarok has a lot of potential but it just isn't ready yet and to
>> put a V2.0 version on it is a scam....

>
> I find it funny that a music organizer / player asks the user on install
> what database they want to use. What? Sure, some techie folks might care
> but if you going to have such an odd option why not have a default and let
> the techies change it if they want? Heck, have an advanced install option
> if you want it set up at install - right now it is just silly.
>
>
> --
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
> nothing. - Unknown
>
 
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Snit

"Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
-KmdnfBqs4Mow-TVnZ2dnUVZ_rHinZ2d@supernews.com on 7/12/08 6:47 PM:

> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:02:48 -0700, Snit wrote:
>
>> "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> stated in post
>> tcr2rr2s0w01$.1urei5yqkynyf.dlg@40tude.net on 7/12/08 5:54 PM:
>>
>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:27:55 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>
>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>
>>>> Malina - First alpha release of Amarok 2.0
>>>
>>> Amarok never should have made it to V1.0... It's a slow, bloated, buggy
>>> program that can't deal with large amounts of files and trips all over
>>> itself. On top of that the user interface ranks amongst the worst on the
>>> planet.
>>>
>>> If ever there was a poster child for Linux/OSS basement ware, slop ware,
>>> Amarok is it....
>>>
>>> And BTW Amarok has a lot of potential but it just isn't ready yet and to put
>>> a V2.0 version on it is a scam....
>>>

>> I find it funny that a music organizer / player asks the user on install what
>> database they want to use. What? Sure, some techie folks might care but if
>> you going to have such an odd option why not have a default and let the
>> techies change it if they want?
>>

> So, what is "default" database that is installed with each Linux based distro?
>

Your question, in this context, is nonsense. You have just proved your
inability to understand what you read. The question is not what database
*any* other program uses, no less the OS database default.

>> Heck, have an advanced install option if you want it set up at install -
>> right now it is just silly.
>>

> No, right now it is different from what you are used to.


It is not designed for the general user... most people are not going to care
any more about what database their *music* player uses than they care about
what brand of socks their favorite political prefers.

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"The Crappier Version" <Crappier@version.net> stated in post
jCdek.5205$cn7.327@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com on 7/12/08 7:20 PM:

....
>> --
>> BU__SH__
>>
>>
>>

>
> Was that George BUSH? If so you put in some extra spaces. Hope that clears
> up the confusion.



Fill in the blanks as you wish. :)


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Rick

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:17:09 -0700, Snit wrote:

> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
> -KmdnfBqs4Mow-TVnZ2dnUVZ_rHinZ2d@supernews.com on 7/12/08 6:47 PM:
>
>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:02:48 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>
>>> "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> stated in post
>>> tcr2rr2s0w01$.1urei5yqkynyf.dlg@40tude.net on 7/12/08 5:54 PM:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:27:55 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>
>>>>> Malina - First alpha release of Amarok 2.0
>>>>
>>>> Amarok never should have made it to V1.0... It's a slow, bloated,
>>>> buggy program that can't deal with large amounts of files and trips
>>>> all over itself. On top of that the user interface ranks amongst the
>>>> worst on the planet.
>>>>
>>>> If ever there was a poster child for Linux/OSS basement ware, slop
>>>> ware, Amarok is it....
>>>>
>>>> And BTW Amarok has a lot of potential but it just isn't ready yet and
>>>> to put a V2.0 version on it is a scam....
>>>>
>>> I find it funny that a music organizer / player asks the user on
>>> install what database they want to use. What? Sure, some techie
>>> folks might care but if you going to have such an odd option why not
>>> have a default and let the techies change it if they want?
>>>

>> So, what is "default" database that is installed with each Linux based
>> distro?
>>

> Your question, in this context, is nonsense. You have just proved your
> inability to understand what you read. The question is not what
> database *any* other program uses, no less the OS database default.


Your statement. in this context, shows you abysmal knowledge of Linux
based distros.

Your words: "if you going to have such an odd option why not have a
default".

So, what is "default" database that is installed with each Linux based
distro? What do you suggest the default be?



>
>>> Heck, have an advanced install option if you want it set up at install
>>> - right now it is just silly.
>>>

>> No, right now it is different from what you are used to.

>
> It is not designed for the general user... most people are not going to
> care any more about what database their *music* player uses than they
> care about what brand of socks their favorite political prefers.


Again, you miss the point. Amarok is asking what database the user has
installed so that can be used, instead of installing its own database.


--
Rick
 
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Snit

"Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
LqydnfnzAfXz9-TVnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@supernews.com on 7/12/08 7:37 PM:

> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:17:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>
>> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
>> -KmdnfBqs4Mow-TVnZ2dnUVZ_rHinZ2d@supernews.com on 7/12/08 6:47 PM:
>>
>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:02:48 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> stated in post
>>>> tcr2rr2s0w01$.1urei5yqkynyf.dlg@40tude.net on 7/12/08 5:54 PM:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:27:55 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Malina - First alpha release of Amarok 2.0
>>>>>
>>>>> Amarok never should have made it to V1.0... It's a slow, bloated,
>>>>> buggy program that can't deal with large amounts of files and trips
>>>>> all over itself. On top of that the user interface ranks amongst the
>>>>> worst on the planet.
>>>>>
>>>>> If ever there was a poster child for Linux/OSS basement ware, slop
>>>>> ware, Amarok is it....
>>>>>
>>>>> And BTW Amarok has a lot of potential but it just isn't ready yet and
>>>>> to put a V2.0 version on it is a scam....
>>>>>
>>>> I find it funny that a music organizer / player asks the user on
>>>> install what database they want to use. What? Sure, some techie
>>>> folks might care but if you going to have such an odd option why not
>>>> have a default and let the techies change it if they want?
>>>>
>>> So, what is "default" database that is installed with each Linux based
>>> distro?
>>>

>> Your question, in this context, is nonsense. You have just proved your
>> inability to understand what you read. The question is not what
>> database *any* other program uses, no less the OS database default.

>
> Your statement. in this context, shows you abysmal knowledge of Linux
> based distros.


Nope.

> Your words: "if you going to have such an odd option why not have a
> default".


Yup. For the *program*. Not the distro. Sure, different distros could
have different defaults for the *program*.

You get mad when I point out you are in over your head, but, really... are
you seriously as lost as you are acting?

> So, what is "default" database that is installed with each Linux based
> distro?


Irrelevant...

> What do you suggest the default be?


For the distro? Who cares? In the given context you are just babbling...
you have no clue what you are talking about.

Take iTunes for example - it has a default database of some sort... but does
it need to base it on the default for OS X or Windows? Of course not! If
Apple were to port iTunes to Linux would they have to use the "default
database" of a distro... assuming a distro even has one? Again: of course
not. Your questions in that area show amazing ignorance on your part.

You are not able to understand the most simple of things related to
technology.

>
>
>
>>
>>>> Heck, have an advanced install option if you want it set up at install
>>>> - right now it is just silly.
>>>>
>>> No, right now it is different from what you are used to.

>>
>> It is not designed for the general user... most people are not going to
>> care any more about what database their *music* player uses than they
>> care about what brand of socks their favorite political prefers.

>
> Again, you miss the point.


Nope.

> Amarok is asking what database the user has installed so that can be used,
> instead of installing its own database.


So you think Amarok would not work on a distro without a database installed?

<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/amarok/Amarok.html#3>






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.... full of jam!
 
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Rick

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:01:18 -0700, Snit wrote:

> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
> LqydnfnzAfXz9-TVnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@supernews.com on 7/12/08 7:37 PM:
>
>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:17:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>
>>> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
>>> -KmdnfBqs4Mow-TVnZ2dnUVZ_rHinZ2d@supernews.com on 7/12/08 6:47 PM:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:02:48 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> stated in post
>>>>> tcr2rr2s0w01$.1urei5yqkynyf.dlg@40tude.net on 7/12/08 5:54 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:27:55 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Malina - First alpha release of Amarok 2.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amarok never should have made it to V1.0... It's a slow, bloated,
>>>>>> buggy program that can't deal with large amounts of files and trips
>>>>>> all over itself. On top of that the user interface ranks amongst
>>>>>> the worst on the planet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If ever there was a poster child for Linux/OSS basement ware, slop
>>>>>> ware, Amarok is it....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And BTW Amarok has a lot of potential but it just isn't ready yet
>>>>>> and to put a V2.0 version on it is a scam....
>>>>>>
>>>>> I find it funny that a music organizer / player asks the user on
>>>>> install what database they want to use. What? Sure, some techie
>>>>> folks might care but if you going to have such an odd option why not
>>>>> have a default and let the techies change it if they want?
>>>>>
>>>> So, what is "default" database that is installed with each Linux
>>>> based distro?
>>>>
>>> Your question, in this context, is nonsense. You have just proved
>>> your inability to understand what you read. The question is not what
>>> database *any* other program uses, no less the OS database default.

>>
>> Your statement. in this context, shows you abysmal knowledge of Linux
>> based distros.

>
> Nope.


Yup.

>
>> Your words: "if you going to have such an odd option why not have a
>> default".

>
> Yup. For the *program*. Not the distro. Sure, different distros could
> have different defaults for the *program*.


A default database for the app, not the distro? You do undersatnd that is
its applications that utilize databses, don't you? You do realize that
database managers have to be installed, don't you? You do realize that
there are several choices of databases available don't you?

>
> You get mad when I point out you are in over your head, but, really...
> are you seriously as lost as you are acting?


So, you are gain claiming to know when people are angry. Really... is
there no end to your narcissism?

>
>> So, what is "default" database that is installed with each Linux based
>> distro?

>
> Irrelevant...


Relevant.

>
>> What do you suggest the default be?

>
> For the distro? Who cares? In the given context you are just
> babbling... you have no clue what you are talking about.


You are again showing your ignorance of Linux based distros.

>
> Take iTunes for example - it has a default database of some sort... but
> does it need to base it on the default for OS X or Windows? Of course
> not!


If I were to guess, I would guess that it has its own internal database,
and doesn't have the ability to use an external database.

> If Apple were to port iTunes to Linux would they have to use the
> "default database" of a distro...


What default database of a distro?

> assuming a distro even has one?
> Again: of course not. Your questions in that area show amazing
> ignorance on your part.
>
> You are not able to understand the most simple of things related to
> technology.


That's funny, coming from you.


>>>>> Heck, have an advanced install option if you want it set up at
>>>>> install - right now it is just silly.
>>>>>
>>>> No, right now it is different from what you are used to.
>>>
>>> It is not designed for the general user... most people are not going
>>> to care any more about what database their *music* player uses than
>>> they care about what brand of socks their favorite political prefers.

>>
>> Again, you miss the point.

>
> Nope.


Yup.

>
>> Amarok is asking what database the user has installed so that can be
>> used, instead of installing its own database.


Reworded:

Amarok is asking what database the user has installed so that can be
used, instead of using its own database.

>
> So you think Amarok would not work on a distro without a database
> installed?


Go search on Amarok and SQLite. You will find that Amarok uses SQLite
internally.

>
> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/amarok/Amarok.html#3>


Look, you are again pointing to the web pages of Michael Glasser,
Prescott Computer Guy.... are you just trying to collect personal
information again?

--
Rick
 
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thufir

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:18:42 -0700, Snit wrote:


> Rick has told me I would have to risk breaking the law just to get some
> pretty basic functionality out of it.



You can purchase codecs.


-Thufir
 
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Rick

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:49:27 +0000, thufir wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:18:42 -0700, Snit wrote:
>
>
>> Rick has told me I would have to risk breaking the law just to get some
>> pretty basic functionality out of it.

>
>
> You can purchase codecs.
>

As usual, Michael Glasser is showing his dishonesty and or stupidity. I
never said or implied he would have to risk breaking the law just to get
some pretty basic functionality out of Amarok. That was, as usual, weird
interpretation.

--
Rick
 
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Snit

"Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
LqydnfrzAfX-6uTVnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@supernews.com on 7/12/08 8:32 PM:

> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:01:18 -0700, Snit wrote:
>
>> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
>> LqydnfnzAfXz9-TVnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@supernews.com on 7/12/08 7:37 PM:
>>
>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:17:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
>>>> -KmdnfBqs4Mow-TVnZ2dnUVZ_rHinZ2d@supernews.com on 7/12/08 6:47 PM:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:02:48 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> stated in post
>>>>>> tcr2rr2s0w01$.1urei5yqkynyf.dlg@40tude.net on 7/12/08 5:54 PM:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:27:55 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Malina - First alpha release of Amarok 2.0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Amarok never should have made it to V1.0... It's a slow, bloated,
>>>>>>> buggy program that can't deal with large amounts of files and trips
>>>>>>> all over itself. On top of that the user interface ranks amongst
>>>>>>> the worst on the planet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If ever there was a poster child for Linux/OSS basement ware, slop
>>>>>>> ware, Amarok is it....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And BTW Amarok has a lot of potential but it just isn't ready yet
>>>>>>> and to put a V2.0 version on it is a scam....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I find it funny that a music organizer / player asks the user on
>>>>>> install what database they want to use. What? Sure, some techie
>>>>>> folks might care but if you going to have such an odd option why not
>>>>>> have a default and let the techies change it if they want?
>>>>>>
>>>>> So, what is "default" database that is installed with each Linux
>>>>> based distro?
>>>>>
>>>> Your question, in this context, is nonsense. You have just proved
>>>> your inability to understand what you read. The question is not what
>>>> database *any* other program uses, no less the OS database default.
>>>
>>> Your statement. in this context, shows you abysmal knowledge of Linux
>>> based distros.

>>
>> Nope.

>
> Yup.
>
>>
>>> Your words: "if you going to have such an odd option why not have a
>>> default".

>>
>> Yup. For the *program*. Not the distro. Sure, different distros could
>> have different defaults for the *program*.

>
> A default database for the app, not the distro? You do undersatnd that is
> its applications that utilize databses, don't you? You do realize that
> database managers have to be installed, don't you? You do realize that
> there are several choices of databases available don't you?
>
>>
>> You get mad when I point out you are in over your head, but, really...
>> are you seriously as lost as you are acting?

>
> So, you are gain claiming to know when people are angry. Really... is
> there no end to your narcissism?
>
>>
>>> So, what is "default" database that is installed with each Linux based
>>> distro?

>>
>> Irrelevant...

>
> Relevant.
>
>>
>>> What do you suggest the default be?

>>
>> For the distro? Who cares? In the given context you are just
>> babbling... you have no clue what you are talking about.

>
> You are again showing your ignorance of Linux based distros.
>
>>
>> Take iTunes for example - it has a default database of some sort... but
>> does it need to base it on the default for OS X or Windows? Of course
>> not!

>
> If I were to guess, I would guess that it has its own internal database,
> and doesn't have the ability to use an external database.
>
>> If Apple were to port iTunes to Linux would they have to use the
>> "default database" of a distro...

>
> What default database of a distro?
>
>> assuming a distro even has one?
>> Again: of course not. Your questions in that area show amazing
>> ignorance on your part.
>>
>> You are not able to understand the most simple of things related to
>> technology.

>
> That's funny, coming from you.
>
>
>>>>>> Heck, have an advanced install option if you want it set up at
>>>>>> install - right now it is just silly.
>>>>>>
>>>>> No, right now it is different from what you are used to.
>>>>
>>>> It is not designed for the general user... most people are not going
>>>> to care any more about what database their *music* player uses than
>>>> they care about what brand of socks their favorite political prefers.
>>>
>>> Again, you miss the point.

>>
>> Nope.

>
> Yup.
>
>>
>>> Amarok is asking what database the user has installed so that can be
>>> used, instead of installing its own database.

>
> Reworded:
>
> Amarok is asking what database the user has installed so that can be
> used, instead of using its own database.
>
>>
>> So you think Amarok would not work on a distro without a database
>> installed?

>
> Go search on Amarok and SQLite. You will find that Amarok uses SQLite
> internally.
>
>>
>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/amarok/Amarok.html#3>

>
> Look, you are again pointing to the web pages of Michael Glxsser,
> Prxscott Computer Guy.... are you just trying to collect personal
> information again?



You babble on, spew insults, and show no understanding of the fact that
Amarok is a *program* and not a distro of Linux (such as PCLOS or Ubuntu).

And to prove you know you are in over your heard you resort to targetting my
personal and professional information.

You know you made an ass out of yourself... *you* proved it with your
actions.


--
"In order to discover who you are, first learn who everybody else is. You're
what's left." - Skip Hansen
 
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Snit

"Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
LqydnfDzAfXUE-TVnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@supernews.com on 7/12/08 10:10 PM:

> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:49:27 +0000, thufir wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:18:42 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Rick has told me I would have to risk breaking the law just to get some
>>> pretty basic functionality out of it.

>>
>>
>> You can purchase codecs.
>>

> As usual, Michael Glxsser is showing his dishonesty and or stupidity. I
> never said or implied he would have to risk breaking the law just to get
> some pretty basic functionality out of Amarok. That was, as usual, weird
> interpretation.


Snit:
Then I went to Radio Streams and Shoutcast... picked a station
and was told there was no available decoder.

Rick:
The user has to take the chance of breaking laws by
installing some codecs.

Do you not realize how easy it is to prove you are a liar? Of course you
do! That is the very reason you resort to trying to tie your posts to my
personal information - you want *your* lies associated with my name.

How despicable of you.



--
Satan lives for my sins... now *that* is dedication!
 
S

Snit

"thufir" <hawat.thufir@gmail.com> stated in post
rPfek.96264$gc5.6508@pd7urf2no on 7/12/08 9:49 PM:

> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:18:42 -0700, Snit wrote:
>
>
>> Rick has told me I would have to risk breaking the law just to get some
>> pretty basic functionality out of it.

>
>
> You can purchase codecs.


Agreed... but irrelevant to the fact that Rick told me I would have to take
a chance to breaking the law to get some pretty basic functionality:

Snit:
Then I went to Radio Streams and Shoutcast... picked a station
and was told there was no available decoder.

Rick:
The user has to take the chance of breaking laws by
installing some codecs.


--
Look, this is silly. It's not an argument, it's an armor plated walrus with
walnut paneling and an all leather interior.
 
R

Rick

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:54:29 -0700, Snit wrote:

> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
> LqydnfDzAfXUE-TVnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@supernews.com on 7/12/08 10:10 PM:
>
>> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:49:27 +0000, thufir wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:18:42 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Rick has told me I would have to risk breaking the law just to get
>>>> some pretty basic functionality out of it.
>>>
>>>
>>> You can purchase codecs.
>>>

>> As usual, Michael Glxsser is showing his dishonesty and or stupidity. I
>> never said or implied he would have to risk breaking the law just to
>> get some pretty basic functionality out of Amarok. That was, as usual,
>> weird interpretation.

>
> Snit:
> Then I went to Radio Streams and Shoutcast... picked a station and
> was told there was no available decoder.
>
> Rick:
> The user has to take the chance of breaking laws by installing some
> codecs.
>
> Do you not realize how easy it is to prove you are a liar? Of course
> you do! That is the very reason you resort to trying to tie your posts
> to my personal information - you want *your* lies associated with my
> name.
>
> How despicable of you.


Post the exact message ID so context can be seen.


--
Rick
 
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Snit

"Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
LqydnfPzAfWvBuTVnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@supernews.com on 7/12/08 11:05 PM:

> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:54:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
>
>> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
>> LqydnfDzAfXUE-TVnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@supernews.com on 7/12/08 10:10 PM:
>>
>>> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:49:27 +0000, thufir wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:18:42 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Rick has told me I would have to risk breaking the law just to get
>>>>> some pretty basic functionality out of it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can purchase codecs.
>>>>
>>> As usual, Michael Glxsser is showing his dishonesty and or stupidity. I
>>> never said or implied he would have to risk breaking the law just to
>>> get some pretty basic functionality out of Amarok. That was, as usual,
>>> weird interpretation.

>>
>> Snit:
>> Then I went to Radio Streams and Shoutcast... picked a station and
>> was told there was no available decoder.
>>
>> Rick:
>> The user has to take the chance of breaking laws by installing some
>> codecs.
>>
>> Do you not realize how easy it is to prove you are a liar? Of course
>> you do! That is the very reason you resort to trying to tie your posts
>> to my personal information - you want *your* lies associated with my
>> name.
>>
>> How despicable of you.

>
> Post the exact message ID so context can be seen.


13oft08jhqo0556@news.supernews.com

And hey, to help you out, here is a link:

<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a6250d7d3c555647>

So now when will you apologize for not only lying but tying *your* lies to
*my* name.

Even you have to admit that was amazingly pathetic of you, eh? Or are you
going to feign ignorance and pretend you do not realize how absurd your
actions are?


--
God made me an atheist - who are you to question his authority?
 
R

Rick

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:47:02 -0700, Snit wrote:

> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
> LqydnfrzAfX-6uTVnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@supernews.com on 7/12/08 8:32 PM:
>
>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:01:18 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>
>>> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
>>> LqydnfnzAfXz9-TVnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@supernews.com on 7/12/08 7:37 PM:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:17:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
>>>>> -KmdnfBqs4Mow-TVnZ2dnUVZ_rHinZ2d@supernews.com on 7/12/08 6:47 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:02:48 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> stated in post
>>>>>>> tcr2rr2s0w01$.1urei5yqkynyf.dlg@40tude.net on 7/12/08 5:54 PM:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:27:55 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Malina - First alpha release of Amarok 2.0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Amarok never should have made it to V1.0... It's a slow, bloated,
>>>>>>>> buggy program that can't deal with large amounts of files and
>>>>>>>> trips all over itself. On top of that the user interface ranks
>>>>>>>> amongst the worst on the planet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If ever there was a poster child for Linux/OSS basement ware,
>>>>>>>> slop ware, Amarok is it....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And BTW Amarok has a lot of potential but it just isn't ready yet
>>>>>>>> and to put a V2.0 version on it is a scam....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I find it funny that a music organizer / player asks the user on
>>>>>>> install what database they want to use. What? Sure, some techie
>>>>>>> folks might care but if you going to have such an odd option why
>>>>>>> not have a default and let the techies change it if they want?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, what is "default" database that is installed with each Linux
>>>>>> based distro?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Your question, in this context, is nonsense. You have just proved
>>>>> your inability to understand what you read. The question is not
>>>>> what database *any* other program uses, no less the OS database
>>>>> default.
>>>>
>>>> Your statement. in this context, shows you abysmal knowledge of Linux
>>>> based distros.
>>>
>>> Nope.

>>
>> Yup.
>>
>>
>>>> Your words: "if you going to have such an odd option why not have a
>>>> default".
>>>
>>> Yup. For the *program*. Not the distro. Sure, different distros
>>> could have different defaults for the *program*.

>>
>> A default database for the app, not the distro? You do undersatnd that
>> is its applications that utilize databses, don't you? You do realize
>> that database managers have to be installed, don't you? You do realize
>> that there are several choices of databases available don't you?
>>
>>
>>> You get mad when I point out you are in over your head, but, really...
>>> are you seriously as lost as you are acting?

>>
>> So, you are gain claiming to know when people are angry. Really... is
>> there no end to your narcissism?
>>
>>
>>>> So, what is "default" database that is installed with each Linux
>>>> based distro?
>>>
>>> Irrelevant...

>>
>> Relevant.
>>
>>
>>>> What do you suggest the default be?
>>>
>>> For the distro? Who cares? In the given context you are just
>>> babbling... you have no clue what you are talking about.

>>
>> You are again showing your ignorance of Linux based distros.
>>
>>
>>> Take iTunes for example - it has a default database of some sort...
>>> but does it need to base it on the default for OS X or Windows? Of
>>> course not!

>>
>> If I were to guess, I would guess that it has its own internal
>> database, and doesn't have the ability to use an external database.
>>
>>> If Apple were to port iTunes to Linux would they have to use the
>>> "default database" of a distro...

>>
>> What default database of a distro?
>>
>>> assuming a distro even has one?
>>> Again: of course not. Your questions in that area show amazing
>>> ignorance on your part.
>>>
>>> You are not able to understand the most simple of things related to
>>> technology.

>>
>> That's funny, coming from you.
>>
>>
>>>>>>> Heck, have an advanced install option if you want it set up at
>>>>>>> install - right now it is just silly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, right now it is different from what you are used to.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is not designed for the general user... most people are not going
>>>>> to care any more about what database their *music* player uses than
>>>>> they care about what brand of socks their favorite political
>>>>> prefers.
>>>>
>>>> Again, you miss the point.
>>>
>>> Nope.

>>
>> Yup.
>>
>>
>>>> Amarok is asking what database the user has installed so that can be
>>>> used, instead of installing its own database.

>>
>> Reworded:
>>
>> Amarok is asking what database the user has installed so that can be
>> used, instead of using its own database.
>>
>>
>>> So you think Amarok would not work on a distro without a database
>>> installed?

>>
>> Go search on Amarok and SQLite. You will find that Amarok uses SQLite
>> internally.


What? no reply? Of course not. You apparently did not hear of SQLite.

>>
>>
>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/amarok/Amarok.html#3>

>>
>> Look, you are again pointing to the web pages of Michael Glasser,
>> Prescott Computer Guy.... are you just trying to collect personal
>> information again?

>
>
> You babble on, spew insults, and show no understanding of the fact that
> Amarok is a *program* and not a distro of Linux (such as PCLOS or
> Ubuntu).


No, that is your incorrect inference. And now you will repeat your BS
trying to turn it into fact. You have no comprehension that Amarok can
use external databases, and in order to do that, it ask the user which to
use.

>
> And to prove you know you are in over your heard you resort to
> targetting my personal and professional information.


You are such a whining self-professed martyr. You do know that businesses
get "targeted" every day, don't you? You do know that negative
advertising is quite legal, don't you?

>
> You know you made an ass out of yourself... *you* proved it with your
> actions.


You are such a whining self-professed martyr. BTW, your customers,
however many there are, should know, in advance, how uninformed you are.
If you don't want them to know, stop pointing to your business pages. It
is not my fault that you do it.

Now, be a good little troll and trundle off and read about Amarok and
internal and external databases.

--
Rick
 
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Snit

"Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
VaWdnVTx74NVAOTVnZ2dnUVZ_t3inZ2d@supernews.com on 7/12/08 11:16 PM:

>> You babble on, spew insults, and show no understanding of the fact that
>> Amarok is a *program* and not a distro of Linux (such as PCLOS or
>> Ubuntu).

>
> No, that is your incorrect inference. And now you will repeat your BS
> trying to turn it into fact. You have no comprehension that Amarok can
> use external databases, and in order to do that, it ask the user which to
> use.


Not only did I knew Amarok could use external databases I made it very, very
clear I knew this. In fact, Rick, my *very first* sentence in this thread:

I find it funny that a music organizer / player asks the
user on install what database they want to use.

Are you going to now feign ignorance and pretend you do not see how wrong
you were? I bet so!

>> And to prove you know you are in over your heard you resort to
>> targetting my personal and professional information.

>
> You are such a whining self-professed martyr. You do know that businesses
> get "targeted" every day, don't you? You do know that negative
> advertising is quite legal, don't you?


I did not mention legality. I am talking about *morality*. You find
nothing wrong with targeting my *business* simply because you I point out
how you embarrass yourself in a Usenet debate. Face it, Rick, that shows a
complete lack of morality from you.

>> You know you made an ass out of yourself... *you* proved it with your
>> actions.

>
> You are such a whining self-professed martyr. BTW, your customers,
> however many there are, should know, in advance, how uninformed you are.
> If you don't want them to know, stop pointing to your business pages. It
> is not my fault that you do it.


You are pretending it is my actions in question: it is not. You are the one
tying your lies to my business simply because you humiliated yourself in a
Usenet debate. That is pathetic of you.

> Now, be a good little troll and trundle off and read about Amarok and
> internal and external databases.


As proved above: you are flat out wrong... the fact you are flat out wrong
was clear from my very first sentence in this thread.

Yes, Rick, you are *that* pathetic.


--
BU__SH__
 
R

Rick

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:15:41 -0700, Snit wrote:

> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
> LqydnfPzAfWvBuTVnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@supernews.com on 7/12/08 11:05 PM:
>
>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:54:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>
>>> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
>>> LqydnfDzAfXUE-TVnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@supernews.com on 7/12/08 10:10 PM:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:49:27 +0000, thufir wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:18:42 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rick has told me I would have to risk breaking the law just to get
>>>>>> some pretty basic functionality out of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You can purchase codecs.
>>>>>
>>>> As usual, Michael Glxsser is showing his dishonesty and or stupidity.
>>>> I never said or implied he would have to risk breaking the law just
>>>> to get some pretty basic functionality out of Amarok. That was, as
>>>> usual, weird interpretation.
>>>
>>> Snit:
>>> Then I went to Radio Streams and Shoutcast... picked a station and
>>> was told there was no available decoder.
>>>
>>> Rick:
>>> The user has to take the chance of breaking laws by installing
>>> some codecs.
>>>
>>> Do you not realize how easy it is to prove you are a liar? Of course
>>> you do! That is the very reason you resort to trying to tie your
>>> posts to my personal information - you want *your* lies associated
>>> with my name.
>>>
>>> How despicable of you.

>>
>> Post the exact message ID so context can be seen.

>
> 13oft08jhqo0556@news.supernews.com
>
> And hey, to help you out, here is a link:
>
> <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/

a6250d7d3c555647>
>
> So now when will you apologize for not only lying but tying *your* lies
> to *my* name.
>
> Even you have to admit that was amazingly pathetic of you, eh? Or are
> you going to feign ignorance and pretend you do not realize how absurd
> your actions are?


Purchase them and you should be fine. Should be. Might be. Context. Just
downloading and installing codecs can violate laws in places.

And your statement was :"Rick has told me I would have to risk breaking
the law just to get some pretty basic functionality out of it."

That isn't true.

--
Rick
 
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Rick

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:22:26 -0700, Snit wrote:

> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
> VaWdnVTx74NVAOTVnZ2dnUVZ_t3inZ2d@supernews.com on 7/12/08 11:16 PM:
>
>>> You babble on, spew insults, and show no understanding of the fact
>>> that Amarok is a *program* and not a distro of Linux (such as PCLOS or
>>> Ubuntu).

>>
>> No, that is your incorrect inference. And now you will repeat your BS
>> trying to turn it into fact. You have no comprehension that Amarok can
>> use external databases, and in order to do that, it ask the user which
>> to use.

>
> Not only did I knew Amarok could use external databases I made it very,
> very clear I knew this. In fact, Rick, my *very first* sentence in this
> thread:
>
> I find it funny that a music organizer / player asks the user on
> install what database they want to use.
>
> Are you going to now feign ignorance and pretend you do not see how
> wrong you were? I bet so!


No, I am calling you on your lies. You keep drawing incorrect
inferences. You have no comprehension that Amarok can use external
databases, AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, IT HAS TO ASK THE USER WHICH TO USE.

The last part, in caps, is the important part.

>
>>> And to prove you know you are in over your heard you resort to
>>> targetting my personal and professional information.

>>
>> You are such a whining self-professed martyr. You do know that
>> businesses get "targeted" every day, don't you? You do know that
>> negative advertising is quite legal, don't you?

>
> I did not mention legality. I am talking about *morality*. You find
> nothing wrong with targeting my *business* simply because you I point
> out how you embarrass yourself in a Usenet debate. Face it, Rick, that
> shows a complete lack of morality from you.


Your statement is a complete lie, which shows a lack of morals on your
part.

>
>>> You know you made an ass out of yourself... *you* proved it with your
>>> actions.

>>
>> You are such a whining self-professed martyr. BTW, your customers,
>> however many there are, should know, in advance, how uninformed you
>> are. If you don't want them to know, stop pointing to your business
>> pages. It is not my fault that you do it.

>
> You are pretending it is my actions in question: it is not. You are the
> one tying your lies to my business simply because you humiliated
> yourself in a Usenet debate. That is pathetic of you.


Your statement is a complete lie, which shows a lack of morals on your
part.


>
>> Now, be a good little troll and trundle off and read about Amarok and
>> internal and external databases.

>
> As proved above: you are flat out wrong... the fact you are flat out
> wrong was clear from my very first sentence in this thread.
>
> Yes, Rick, you are *that* pathetic.


Do you really believe all these lies you spew? BTW, I think it is time
that you stop polluting the other groups. I have set the followup. Be a
good little boy and leave the followup in place.

--
Rick
 
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