Amarok vs Media Monkey..$20.00 vs a lifetime of frustration......

[caver1]

Snit wrote:
> "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> stated in post
> mo1fbfg77i61$.sv3co4yxxp9c.dlg@40tude.net on 8/3/08 9:49 PM:
>
>> On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 04:43:34 GMT, thufir wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:16:33 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> People try Linux.
>>>>>> People dump Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've seen it happen many times.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, let's hear some specific examples.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Thufir
>>>> Ok I'll play your little game....
>>>>
>>>> Here ya' go:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/16721/1090/1/0/
>>>
>>>
>>> to be pedantic, and I'm invoking that privilege, you wrote that you'd
>>> seen this happen. I'll read the article, but I was expecting "my
>>> nephew..." or whatever.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Thufir
>> Stop wasting my time.
>> I've seen many people try and toss Linux.
>> However, being the Linux loon that you are I know full well had I posted
>> those accounts you would claim I was lying.
>>
>> So that's why I posted a 3rd party experience....
>>
>> Give it up already, I am at least 5 steps ahead of you loons....
>
> I posted personal experience... and I am betting it will be met with just
> the response you predict. We shall see.
>
>



If you read the whole article it plainly shows that part of Linux demise
at that school was more of MS keeping competition out. They switched to
laptops that had Vista And Office preloaded and that was non-negotiable
on the schools end.
caver1

 

[Hadron]

Ignoramus25337 <ignoramus25337@NOSPAM.25337.invalid> writes:

> On 2008-08-03, jellybean stonerfish <stonerfish@geocities.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:09:58 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>>
>>>> Total cost for Linux, KDE and amaroK... $00.00. Total Cost for windows
>>>> and media monkey? Depends on the deal, but it's easily over hundreds of
>>>> dollars.
>>>
>>> Jerry McBride : it's all about financial cost.
>>
>> Exactly. Window will cost you more than money. How much is time worth?
>
> We are transitioning our server software from Windows to Linux, and in
> general we replace 5-8 comparable Windows servers with one Linux
> server, due to improved performance. When we started, I thought that I
> would be managing a big server farm, but now it looks like it will be
> a small server farm.

Fact : either you are a liar OR you are incompetent.

I wonder which it is.

 

[Peter Köhlmann]

Hadron wrote:

> Ignoramus25337 <ignoramus25337@NOSPAM.25337.invalid> writes:
>
>> On 2008-08-03, jellybean stonerfish <stonerfish@geocities.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:09:58 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Total cost for Linux, KDE and amaroK... $00.00. Total Cost for windows
>>>>> and media monkey? Depends on the deal, but it's easily over hundreds
>>>>> of dollars.
>>>>
>>>> Jerry McBride : it's all about financial cost.
>>>
>>> Exactly. Window will cost you more than money. How much is time worth?
>>
>> We are transitioning our server software from Windows to Linux, and in
>> general we replace 5-8 comparable Windows servers with one Linux
>> server, due to improved performance. When we started, I thought that I
>> would be managing a big server farm, but now it looks like it will be
>> a small server farm.
>
> Fact : either you are a liar OR you are incompetent.
>
> I wonder which it is.

Neither. I still remember the days in a company where the Netware servers
were to be replaced by Win-NT servers.
They ended up with 4 times as many boxen (more powerfull ones, too) and
still had not migrated everything and so had to continue running Netware on
one machine.
The switch was done by MS certified personnel, BTW. Just that you can stick
your "incompetent" accusation where the suns don't shine

Windows is incredibly shoddy as a server OS, and few things have gotten
better with the latest offerings
--
Windows isn't unstable. It's spontaneous.

 

[Mr Spock]

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:07:03 +0000, jellybean stonerfish wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:09:58 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>
>>> Total cost for Linux, KDE and amaroK... $00.00. Total Cost for windows
>>> and media monkey? Depends on the deal, but it's easily over hundreds of
>>> dollars.
>>
>> Jerry McBride : it's all about financial cost.
>
> Exactly. Window will cost you more than money. How much is time worth?


Linux costs you, if you want to get picky about "How much is time worth".
There is (to me) three types of linux distro, newbie, intimdiate &
advanced, and the same applies to the linux user. Some users are smarter
and pick stuff up quicker. On the other hand, others are slower and more
cautious, Im in the 2nd group. Im not thick, not saying I am, but Ive
spent a lot of time and effort in getting linux to work for me. Its been
slow and painful, but well worth it, so the initial outlay may have been
zero, but Ive gained bucket loads in experience.

 

[LittleGorm]

Re: Amarok vs Media Monkey..$20.00 vs a lifetime offrustration......

On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:08:54 +0100, Mr Spock wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:07:03 +0000, jellybean stonerfish wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:09:58 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>>
>>>> Total cost for Linux, KDE and amaroK... $00.00. Total Cost for
>>>> windows and media monkey? Depends on the deal, but it's easily over
>>>> hundreds of dollars.
>>>
>>> Jerry McBride : it's all about financial cost.
>>
>> Exactly. Window will cost you more than money. How much is time
>> worth?
>
>
> Linux costs you, if you want to get picky about "How much is time
> worth". There is (to me) three types of linux distro, newbie, intimdiate
> & advanced, and the same applies to the linux user. Some users are
> smarter and pick stuff up quicker. On the other hand, others are slower
> and more cautious, Im in the 2nd group. Im not thick, not saying I am,
> but Ive spent a lot of time and effort in getting linux to work for me.
> Its been slow and painful, but well worth it, so the initial outlay may
> have been zero, but Ive gained bucket loads in experience.

Well this is also true of ALL operating systems, not just Linux. You
think that Windows or the Mac has no learning curve? All software
requires some effort and time. As those using Vista, not just new users
but those have used XP. Yes, I agree with you, my time is worth
something, it may not be $100/hr but it sure as hell isn't $0/hour.

That being said, it all depends on how you want to spend that money.
Frankly, I look at it as a learning experience, and learning costs--no
free lunch in this world. I must admit that I tried Linux back in the
early days of Red Hat, found it would require too much (which I didn't
have that period in my life) and pretty much dropped it until last year
when I tried Ubuntu 7.04. Very great strides have been made to the
operating system and a great deal of new software has been added. In its
latest form (8.04) it is now far easier to learn and use.