Amarok vs Media Monkey..$20.00 vs a lifetime of frustration......

[Hobbes]

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hobbes wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:51:22 +0200
>>>> Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:44:41 +0200
>>>>>> Alias <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:g746ig$2q6$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:g7458h$cc6$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:g7444p$v4j$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:g741sf$nf5$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found it to be slow,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bloated and unstable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interfaces EVER on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the face of the earth bar no operating system including
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cli based DOS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure Amarok looks great on paper.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a veritable Swiss Army Knife of a media application.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problems start when you try and actually use if,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially on large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collections like 20k files or more.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That big, eh? My music collection is bigger than 20GB and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no problems with Amarok at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was 20K files ( 20,000 files ) Alias.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ruff ruff
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have more files than that and no problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You are a buzy [sic] little beaver aren't you ?
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you start at song 1 today, by Christmas you'll have
>>>>>>>>>>>> listened to them all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you played them in Windows...they would sound better.
>>>>>>>>>>> False. The sound card and the stereo system I have the
>>>>>>>>>>> computer hooked up to don't care what OS it's using and they
>>>>>>>>>>> sound the same.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Really ?
>>>>>>>>>> In Windows, I can get music to play thru all 6 speakers in a
>>>>>>>>>> 5.1 speaker setup.
>>>>>>>>>> In ubuntu/kubuntu...2 speakers.
>>>>>>>>>> left and right.
>>>>>>>>>> How do I get it to play thru all in ubuntu ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't have six speakers so I obviously didn't get them to play
>>>>>>>>> in either Windows or Ubuntu. My four speakers work just fine,
>>>>>>>>> thank you very much.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>> Wow...you have over 20,000 songs, and your setup is pretty low
>>>>>>>> end. You should just see if you can find an 8-track player.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hardware snobs are so petty and immature.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>> No.
>>>>>> When we purchase 6 speakers...we like music to come out of ALL of
>>>>>> them. Ubuntu/Kubuntu turns ny PC into a brick from the early '90's.
>>>>>>
>>>>> You've already admitted that you can't configure Ubuntu to work
>>>>> properly and now you're bragging about it again?
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> I can configure both ubuntu/kubuntu to the best capability of the
>>>> software. I've read you in alt.os.linux.ubuntu ... I'm surprised you
>>>> wanna go
>>>> there.
>>>> I have more knowledge in that arena than you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> How long have you been a tech snob? Is it because you can't get laid?
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>> Being a Man ... I do the laying...
>
> How many eggs do you lay a day?
>
>> so I don't get laid.
>
> Figures.
>
>>
>> Notice in just this thread I've posted from ubuntu/kubuntu/Vista.
>
> Bully for you.
>
>> You actually need to use an OS to make comparisons.
>
> Do you need to jump off a 20 story building to know it isn't a good idea?
>
>> Post from Vista.
>
> When I install it for gaming, I will. Until then, I have better things to
> do.
>
> Alias


I see.
LOL

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[Hadron]

Rick <none@nomail.com> writes:

> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:52:44 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>
>> bob <bob@home.now> writes:
>>
>>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:04:17 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to be
>>>> slow, bloated and unstable.
>>>>
>>>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces
>>>> EVER on the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli
>>>> based DOS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> you really are insane.
>>
>> Nice things about Amarok:
>>
>> OSD config
>>
>> Bad things:
>>
>> Awful play list handling.
>
> ... in your opinion...
>
>> Radio streams do not work.
>
> I guess that explains why I have been listening to them this morning.

What version? Post the url for the stream you use. Maybe its only the
bbc? mplayer plays them fine.Amarok does one buffering and then quits
when its played the buffer.

>
>> Unstable.
>
> .. like you? How and when does Amarok crash on your "rock solid Debian
> system"?

The system is. Some apps are awful though, Amarok is one. It might hurt
your pea brain but you do not have to defend everything.

>
>> Pulse audio does not work.
>
> Haven't. messed with Pulse yet.

I changed back to Alsa output and it works.

>
>> Hangs on importing large directories of mixed music types.
>
>
> So, tell us, what is he maximum import that can be safely managed, and
> what mixture?

What kind of question is that? I have more than 10,000 tracks in mp3,
mp4a, ogg and flac. Who knows whats causing the hang.


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[Moshe Goldfarb.]

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:48:51 -0500, bob wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:04:17 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to be
>> slow, bloated and unstable.
>>
>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces EVER
>> on the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli based
>> DOS.
>>
>>
>
>
> you really are insane.

Wow...
The nyms are crawling out of the woodwork these days!

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[Moshe Goldfarb.]

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:52:44 +0200, Hadron wrote:

> bob <bob@home.now> writes:
>
>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:04:17 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>
>>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to be
>>> slow, bloated and unstable.
>>>
>>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces EVER
>>> on the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli based
>>> DOS.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> you really are insane.
>
> Nice things about Amarok:
>
> OSD config
>
> Bad things:
>
> Awful play list handling.
> Radio streams do not work.
> Unstable.
> Pulse audio does not work.
> Hangs on importing large directories of mixed music types.

Amarok has potential and to be fair, I have not used the latest development
release which is supposed to incorporate a lot of changes.
However, my past experience is that while it offers a lot of potential,
it's too kludgy, slow and unstable to be fun to use.

I think it's a GTK application and I have only run it under KDE, so maybe
the gnome people have better success with it, I don't know.

What I do know is Media Monkey is far superior.
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[Hadron]

"Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:52:44 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>
>> bob <bob@home.now> writes:
>>
>>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:04:17 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to be
>>>> slow, bloated and unstable.
>>>>
>>>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces EVER
>>>> on the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli based
>>>> DOS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> you really are insane.
>>
>> Nice things about Amarok:
>>
>> OSD config
>>
>> Bad things:
>>
>> Awful play list handling.
>> Radio streams do not work.
>> Unstable.
>> Pulse audio does not work.
>> Hangs on importing large directories of mixed music types.
>
> Amarok has potential and to be fair, I have not used the latest development
> release which is supposed to incorporate a lot of changes.
> However, my past experience is that while it offers a lot of potential,
> it's too kludgy, slow and unstable to be fun to use.
>
> I think it's a GTK application and I have only run it under KDE, so maybe
> the gnome people have better success with it, I don't know.
>
> What I do know is Media Monkey is far superior.

From what I can gather from the help forums most "solutions" involve KDE
config files. So, shrug, I dont know. And I dont care. I just want it to
work. It could be such a great app.

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[Rick]

Re: Amarok vs Media Monkey..$20.00 vs a lifetime offrustration......

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:06:48 +0200, Hadron wrote:

> Rick <none@nomail.com> writes:
>
>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:52:44 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> bob <bob@home.now> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:04:17 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to be
>>>>> slow, bloated and unstable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces
>>>>> EVER on the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli
>>>>> based DOS.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> you really are insane.
>>>
>>> Nice things about Amarok:
>>>
>>> OSD config
>>>
>>> Bad things:
>>>
>>> Awful play list handling.
>>
>> ... in your opinion...
>>
>>> Radio streams do not work.
>>
>> I guess that explains why I have been listening to them this morning.
>
> What version?

The version that is current in PCLinuxOS.

> Post the url for the stream you use. Maybe its only the
> bbc?

Giving orders again I see.

http://ca.ah.fm:9000/afterhours.fm
http://scfire-ntc-aa03.stream.aol.com:80/stream/1006
http://38.96.148.69:6178
http://190.156.40.191:8000

> mplayer plays them fine.Amarok does one buffering and then quits
> when its played the buffer.
>
>
>>> Unstable.
>>
>> .. like you? How and when does Amarok crash on your "rock solid Debian
>> system"?
>
> The system is. Some apps are awful though, Amarok is one. It might hurt
> your pea brain but you do not have to defend everything.

I don't defend everything. But, it seems you can't make any comments
about OSS apps with finding someting negative. Nothing's perfect.

>
>
>>> Pulse audio does not work.
>>
>> Haven't. messed with Pulse yet.
>
> I changed back to Alsa output and it works.
>
>
>>> Hangs on importing large directories of mixed music types.
>>
>>
>> So, tell us, what is he maximum import that can be safely managed, and
>> what mixture?
>
> What kind of question is that? I have more than 10,000 tracks in mp3,
> mp4a, ogg and flac. Who knows whats causing the hang.

It is your criticism. I thought you know something abut it except... oh,
it sucks, it doesn't work.

Apparently it does work for lots of people... but then, yes, we know,
your requirements are ever so much higher than us mere mortals.

--
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[Rick]

Re: Amarok vs Media Monkey..$20.00 vs a lifetime offrustration......

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:20:35 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:52:44 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>
>> bob <bob@home.now> writes:
>>
>>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:04:17 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to be
>>>> slow, bloated and unstable.
>>>>
>>>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces
>>>> EVER on the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli
>>>> based DOS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> you really are insane.
>>
>> Nice things about Amarok:
>>
>> OSD config
>>
>> Bad things:
>>
>> Awful play list handling.
>> Radio streams do not work.
>> Unstable.
>> Pulse audio does not work.
>> Hangs on importing large directories of mixed music types.
>
> Amarok has potential and to be fair, I have not used the latest
> development release which is supposed to incorporate a lot of changes.
> However, my past experience is that while it offers a lot of potential,
> it's too kludgy, slow and unstable to be fun to use.
>
> I think it's a GTK application and I have only run it under KDE, so
> maybe the gnome people have better success with it, I don't know.

Moshe... OSS and Linux system expert says Amarok is a GTK app...

>
> What I do know is Media Monkey is far superior.

Well fine, use it and be happier.


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[Rick]

Re: Amarok vs Media Monkey..$20.00 vs a lifetime offrustration......

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:24:46 +0200, Hadron wrote:

> "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:52:44 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> bob <bob@home.now> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:04:17 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to be
>>>>> slow, bloated and unstable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces
>>>>> EVER on the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli
>>>>> based DOS.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> you really are insane.
>>>
>>> Nice things about Amarok:
>>>
>>> OSD config
>>>
>>> Bad things:
>>>
>>> Awful play list handling.
>>> Radio streams do not work.
>>> Unstable.
>>> Pulse audio does not work.
>>> Hangs on importing large directories of mixed music types.
>>
>> Amarok has potential and to be fair, I have not used the latest
>> development release which is supposed to incorporate a lot of changes.
>> However, my past experience is that while it offers a lot of potential,
>> it's too kludgy, slow and unstable to be fun to use.
>>
>> I think it's a GTK application and I have only run it under KDE, so
>> maybe the gnome people have better success with it, I don't know.
>>
>> What I do know is Media Monkey is far superior.
>
> From what I can gather from the help forums most "solutions" involve KDE
> config files. So, shrug, I dont know. And I dont care. I just want it to
> work. It could be such a great app.

So, what do you have against Rhythmbox?



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[jellybean stonerfish]

Re: Amarok vs Media Monkey..$20.00 vs a lifetime offrustration......

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:20:35 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:


> Amarok has potential and to be fair, I have not used the latest
> development release which is supposed to incorporate a lot of changes.
> However, my past experience is that while it offers a lot of potential,
> it's too kludgy, slow and unstable to be fun to use.
>
> I think it's a GTK application and I have only run it under KDE, so
> maybe the gnome people have better success with it, I don't know.
>
> What I do know is Media Monkey is far superior.

You should have never bought an ipod. There are players that play more
formats, and are easier to access than an ipod. Buying an ipod was a
mistake. You should not need special software to connect to your music
player.

sf

 

[jellybean stonerfish]

Re: Amarok vs Media Monkey..$20.00 vs a lifetime offrustration......

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:09:58 +0200, Hadron wrote:

>> Total cost for Linux, KDE and amaroK... $00.00. Total Cost for windows
>> and media monkey? Depends on the deal, but it's easily over hundreds of
>> dollars.
>
> Jerry McBride : it's all about financial cost.

Exactly. Window will cost you more than money. How much is time worth?

sf

 

[Ignoramus25337]

On 2008-08-03, jellybean stonerfish <stonerfish@geocities.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:09:58 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>
>>> Total cost for Linux, KDE and amaroK... $00.00. Total Cost for windows
>>> and media monkey? Depends on the deal, but it's easily over hundreds of
>>> dollars.
>>
>> Jerry McBride : it's all about financial cost.
>
> Exactly. Window will cost you more than money. How much is time worth?

We are transitioning our server software from Windows to Linux, and in
general we replace 5-8 comparable Windows servers with one Linux
server, due to improved performance. When we started, I thought that I
would be managing a big server farm, but now it looks like it will be
a small server farm.

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[Moshe Goldfarb.]

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:24:46 +0200, Hadron wrote:

> "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:52:44 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> bob <bob@home.now> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:04:17 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to be
>>>>> slow, bloated and unstable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces EVER
>>>>> on the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli based
>>>>> DOS.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> you really are insane.
>>>
>>> Nice things about Amarok:
>>>
>>> OSD config
>>>
>>> Bad things:
>>>
>>> Awful play list handling.
>>> Radio streams do not work.
>>> Unstable.
>>> Pulse audio does not work.
>>> Hangs on importing large directories of mixed music types.
>>
>> Amarok has potential and to be fair, I have not used the latest development
>> release which is supposed to incorporate a lot of changes.
>> However, my past experience is that while it offers a lot of potential,
>> it's too kludgy, slow and unstable to be fun to use.
>>
>> I think it's a GTK application and I have only run it under KDE, so maybe
>> the gnome people have better success with it, I don't know.
>>
>> What I do know is Media Monkey is far superior.
>
> From what I can gather from the help forums most "solutions" involve KDE
> config files. So, shrug, I dont know. And I dont care. I just want it to
> work. It could be such a great app.

It certainly has the potential, but in it's current state it's just not any
fun.
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[Moshe Goldfarb.]

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:04:42 GMT, jellybean stonerfish wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:20:35 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
>
>> Amarok has potential and to be fair, I have not used the latest
>> development release which is supposed to incorporate a lot of changes.
>> However, my past experience is that while it offers a lot of potential,
>> it's too kludgy, slow and unstable to be fun to use.
>>
>> I think it's a GTK application and I have only run it under KDE, so
>> maybe the gnome people have better success with it, I don't know.
>>
>> What I do know is Media Monkey is far superior.
>
> You should have never bought an ipod. There are players that play more
> formats, and are easier to access than an ipod. Buying an ipod was a
> mistake. You should not need special software to connect to your music
> player.
>
> sf

Been there and done that with a Sandisk and a Creative Zen.
The Sandisk is ok but storage is small.
The Zen is a total POS and I should have bought the iPod instead.
I have an iPod *Classic* 80g and it's great.

Why an iPod?
Because the support for add on stuff is second to none.
Everything supports the iPod.

BTW who told you that you need special software for an iPod?
I just plugged mine in and it worked fine.
It appears as storage and you can drag and drop etc...


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[Moshe Goldfarb.]

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:07:03 GMT, jellybean stonerfish wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:09:58 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>
>>> Total cost for Linux, KDE and amaroK... $00.00. Total Cost for windows
>>> and media monkey? Depends on the deal, but it's easily over hundreds of
>>> dollars.
>>
>> Jerry McBride : it's all about financial cost.
>
> Exactly. Window will cost you more than money. How much is time worth?
>
> sf

The way these so called Linux advocates in COLA switch distributions, they
obviously have a *lot* of time on their hands....

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[Rick]

Re: Amarok vs Media Monkey..$20.00 vs a lifetime offrustration......

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:29:14 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:24:46 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>
>> "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:52:44 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>>>
>>>> bob <bob@home.now> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:04:17 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to
>>>>>> be slow, bloated and unstable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces
>>>>>> EVER on the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli
>>>>>> based DOS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> you really are insane.
>>>>
>>>> Nice things about Amarok:
>>>>
>>>> OSD config
>>>>
>>>> Bad things:
>>>>
>>>> Awful play list handling.
>>>> Radio streams do not work.
>>>> Unstable.
>>>> Pulse audio does not work.
>>>> Hangs on importing large directories of mixed music types.
>>>
>>> Amarok has potential and to be fair, I have not used the latest
>>> development release which is supposed to incorporate a lot of changes.
>>> However, my past experience is that while it offers a lot of
>>> potential, it's too kludgy, slow and unstable to be fun to use.
>>>
>>> I think it's a GTK application and I have only run it under KDE, so
>>> maybe the gnome people have better success with it, I don't know.
>>>
>>> What I do know is Media Monkey is far superior.
>>
>> From what I can gather from the help forums most "solutions" involve
>> KDE config files. So, shrug, I dont know. And I dont care. I just want
>> it to work. It could be such a great app.
>
> It certainly has the potential, but in it's current state it's just not
> any fun.

.... for you.

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[thufir]

Re: Amarok vs Media Monkey..$20.00 vs a lifetime offrustration......

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:09:58 +0200, Hadron wrote:

>> Media Monkey, closed source with a handicapped shareware version or a
>> payfor, fully enabled version. It ONLY runs on an antiquated OS called
>> windows from a company that's on a fast track to being bankrupt, has no
>> sourcecode available and basicly you're stuck with what you bought...
[..]
> Jerry McBride : it's all about financial cost.

Sidestepping the point that media monkey only runs on windows. for me,
for example, it's not even an option.


-Thufir

 

[Moshe Goldfarb.]

On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:05:59 GMT, thufir wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:31:14 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
>
>> People try Linux.
>> People dump Linux.
>>
>> I've seen it happen many times.
>
>
> Ok, let's hear some specific examples.
>
>
> -Thufir

Ok I'll play your little game....

Here ya' go:

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/16721/1090/1/0/

"The Linux era ended in December 2007. Today all the Linux machines are
back to running Windows - actually, a different set of machines as the
lease on the old ones ended. There are Macs at the school running both OS X
and Windows Vista.

The IT budget is much bigger now but the school has the money unlike six
years ago.

The reason for the switch back to Microsoft operating systems? A lack of
support from some of the teachers, says Perkins."

Bottom line, the teachers HATED Linux....

So now you can thread slink...



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[thufir]

Re: Amarok vs Media Monkey..$20.00 vs a lifetime offrustration......

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:16:33 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:

>>> People try Linux.
>>> People dump Linux.
>>>
>>> I've seen it happen many times.
>>
>>
>> Ok, let's hear some specific examples.
>>
>>
>> -Thufir
>
> Ok I'll play your little game....
>
> Here ya' go:
>
> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/16721/1090/1/0/



to be pedantic, and I'm invoking that privilege, you wrote that you'd
seen this happen. I'll read the article, but I was expecting "my
nephew..." or whatever.


-Thufir

 

[Moshe Goldfarb.]

On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 04:43:34 GMT, thufir wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:16:33 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
>>>> People try Linux.
>>>> People dump Linux.
>>>>
>>>> I've seen it happen many times.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok, let's hear some specific examples.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Thufir
>>
>> Ok I'll play your little game....
>>
>> Here ya' go:
>>
>> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/16721/1090/1/0/
>
>
>
> to be pedantic, and I'm invoking that privilege, you wrote that you'd
> seen this happen. I'll read the article, but I was expecting "my
> nephew..." or whatever.
>
>
> -Thufir

Stop wasting my time.
I've seen many people try and toss Linux.
However, being the Linux loon that you are I know full well had I posted
those accounts you would claim I was lying.

So that's why I posted a 3rd party experience....

Give it up already, I am at least 5 steps ahead of you loons....

--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

 

[Snit]

Re: Amarok vs Media Monkey..$20.00 vs a lifetime offrustration......

"Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> stated in post
mo1fbfg77i61$.sv3co4yxxp9c.dlg@40tude.net on 8/3/08 9:49 PM:

> On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 04:43:34 GMT, thufir wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:16:33 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>
>>>>> People try Linux.
>>>>> People dump Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've seen it happen many times.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ok, let's hear some specific examples.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Thufir
>>>
>>> Ok I'll play your little game....
>>>
>>> Here ya' go:
>>>
>>> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/16721/1090/1/0/
>>
>>
>>
>> to be pedantic, and I'm invoking that privilege, you wrote that you'd
>> seen this happen. I'll read the article, but I was expecting "my
>> nephew..." or whatever.
>>
>>
>> -Thufir
>
> Stop wasting my time.
> I've seen many people try and toss Linux.
> However, being the Linux loon that you are I know full well had I posted
> those accounts you would claim I was lying.
>
> So that's why I posted a 3rd party experience....
>
> Give it up already, I am at least 5 steps ahead of you loons....

I posted personal experience... and I am betting it will be met with just
the response you predict. We shall see.


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--Albert Einstein