Amarok vs Media Monkey..$20.00 vs a lifetime of frustration......

[Moshe Goldfarb.]

I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to be slow,
bloated and unstable.

Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces EVER on
the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli based DOS.

Sure Amarok looks great on paper.
It's a veritable Swiss Army Knife of a media application.

The problems start when you try and actually use if, especially on large
collections like 20k files or more.

Amarok goes out to lunch, offers little or no feedback as to what it is
doing other than that stupid graph paper like icon at the bottom of the
screen and is highly unstable and slow.

Enter Media Monkey...

Frankly I had never heard of this program until I recently bought an iPod,
a real iPod....

I'm not a big fan of iTunes, although it's ok and I absolutely hate
Microsoft Media Player, so I was looking...

Media Monkey is a dream come true.
Simple, powerful, FAST, stable and logical is the forte' of this program.

I'm not going to go into details, but if Linux wants to play hardball in
the personal media world, and it better because that's the future, Media
Monkey is the program to beat.
It's THAT good....

Example?
Glad you asked....

I have many files stored in lossless flac format..
iPod doesn't support flac....
Media Monkey converts automatically, on the fly, when I sync to iPod
without touching the source files.
All set up from the getgo...I did nothing to make this work.

Simple example, but a very useful tool.
it is also extremely fast at doing it.

Amarok?

A buggy piece of crap that makes all kinds of promises but delivers on so
very few of them.

Media Monkey?

The best $20.00 I ever spent.

So what is your time and data worth?
If nothing, try Amarok...

If you value your time and data, pony up $20.00 or use the free version and
get your life back so you actually have time to listen to your music
instead of trying to make it work on your iPod player.




--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

 

[7]

Re: Amarok vs Crapola Media Monkey..$20.00 lifetime of Micoshaft PISTA frustration

Micoshaft asstroturfing fraudster pounding the sock Moshe Goldfarb
wrote on behalf of Half Wits from Micoshaft Department of Marketing:


> I


Obviously a liar employed by Micoshaft Marketing department.

There is no way someone would continue to use a bad product let alone
post marketing spiel to buy a proprietory product.


In anycase GStreamer does everything. Thats choice for you.
You can for example run up streamtuner and tune into 10,000+
internet radio stations, or play jitter free videos. All free under Linux
and Ubuntu.

http://www.ubuntu.com
http://www.livecdlist.com
http://www.distrowatch.com

 

[Alias]

Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to be slow,
> bloated and unstable.
>
> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces EVER on
> the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli based DOS.
>
> Sure Amarok looks great on paper.
> It's a veritable Swiss Army Knife of a media application.
>
> The problems start when you try and actually use if, especially on large
> collections like 20k files or more.

That big, eh? My music collection is bigger than 20GB and I have no
problems with Amarok at all.

Alias

 

[Hobbes]

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote in message
news:g741sf$nf5$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to be
>> slow,
>> bloated and unstable.
>>
>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces EVER
>> on
>> the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli based DOS.
>>
>> Sure Amarok looks great on paper.
>> It's a veritable Swiss Army Knife of a media application.
>>
>> The problems start when you try and actually use if, especially on large
>> collections like 20k files or more.
>
> That big, eh? My music collection is bigger than 20GB and I have no
> problems with Amarok at all.
>
> Alias
>

That was 20K files ( 20,000 files ) Alias.
ruff ruff

 

[Alias]

Hobbes wrote:
>
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:g741sf$nf5$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to be
>>> slow,
>>> bloated and unstable.
>>>
>>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces
>>> EVER on
>>> the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli based DOS.
>>>
>>> Sure Amarok looks great on paper.
>>> It's a veritable Swiss Army Knife of a media application.
>>>
>>> The problems start when you try and actually use if, especially on large
>>> collections like 20k files or more.
>>
>> That big, eh? My music collection is bigger than 20GB and I have no
>> problems with Amarok at all.
>>
>> Alias
>>
>
> That was 20K files ( 20,000 files ) Alias.
> ruff ruff

I have more files than that and no problems.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Hobbes wrote:
> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
> news:g7444p$v4j$1@aioe.org...
>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>
>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:g741sf$nf5$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to
>>>>> be slow,
>>>>> bloated and unstable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces
>>>>> EVER on
>>>>> the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli based DOS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure Amarok looks great on paper.
>>>>> It's a veritable Swiss Army Knife of a media application.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problems start when you try and actually use if, especially on
>>>>> large
>>>>> collections like 20k files or more.
>>>>
>>>> That big, eh? My music collection is bigger than 20GB and I have no
>>>> problems with Amarok at all.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>
>>> That was 20K files ( 20,000 files ) Alias.
>>> ruff ruff
>>
>> I have more files than that and no problems.
>>
>> Alias
>>
>
>
> You are a buzy [sic] little beaver aren't you ?
> If you start at song 1 today, by Christmas you'll have listened to them
> all.
>
> If you played them in Windows...they would sound better.

False. The sound card and the stereo system I have the computer hooked
up to don't care what OS it's using and they sound the same.

Alias

 

[bob]

Re: Amarok vs Media Monkey..$20.00 vs a lifetime offrustration......

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:04:17 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:

> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to be
> slow, bloated and unstable.
>
> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces EVER
> on the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli based
> DOS.
>
>


you really are insane.

 

[Hadron]

bob <bob@home.now> writes:

> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:04:17 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to be
>> slow, bloated and unstable.
>>
>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces EVER
>> on the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli based
>> DOS.
>>
>>
>
>
> you really are insane.

Nice things about Amarok:

OSD config

Bad things:

Awful play list handling.
Radio streams do not work.
Unstable.
Pulse audio does not work.
Hangs on importing large directories of mixed music types.

--
"The Linux community re-invents the wheel every month or so. The only
problem is, their version is square"
-- "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> in comp.os.linux.advocacy

 

[Hobbes]

"Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
news:g746ig$2q6$1@aioe.org...
> Hobbes wrote:
>> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
>> news:g7458h$cc6$1@aioe.org...
>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
>>>> news:g7444p$v4j$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:g741sf$nf5$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>>>> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>>>>>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to
>>>>>>>> be slow,
>>>>>>>> bloated and unstable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces
>>>>>>>> EVER on
>>>>>>>> the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli based
>>>>>>>> DOS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure Amarok looks great on paper.
>>>>>>>> It's a veritable Swiss Army Knife of a media application.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The problems start when you try and actually use if, especially on
>>>>>>>> large
>>>>>>>> collections like 20k files or more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That big, eh? My music collection is bigger than 20GB and I have no
>>>>>>> problems with Amarok at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That was 20K files ( 20,000 files ) Alias.
>>>>>> ruff ruff
>>>>>
>>>>> I have more files than that and no problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are a buzy [sic] little beaver aren't you ?
>>>> If you start at song 1 today, by Christmas you'll have listened to them
>>>> all.
>>>>
>>>> If you played them in Windows...they would sound better.
>>>
>>> False. The sound card and the stereo system I have the computer hooked
>>> up to don't care what OS it's using and they sound the same.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>>
>>
>>
>> Really ?
>> In Windows, I can get music to play thru all 6 speakers in a 5.1 speaker
>> setup.
>> In ubuntu/kubuntu...2 speakers.
>> left and right.
>> How do I get it to play thru all in ubuntu ?
>>
>
> I don't have six speakers so I obviously didn't get them to play in either
> Windows or Ubuntu. My four speakers work just fine, thank you very much.
>
> Alias


Wow...you have over 20,000 songs, and your setup is pretty low end.
You should just see if you can find an 8-track player.

--
Hobbes, Tiger Extraordinaire

 

[7]

Re: Amarok vs Media Monkey..$20.00 vs a lifetime of frustration with PISTA

Appil asstroturfing fraudster pounding the sock Hadron
wrote on behalf of Half Wits from Appil Corporation Department of Marketing:


> N

The trouble with asstroturfers of various marketing departments posting
'infomercials' is that they have to duck and dive to mislead
the public.

Gstreamers for example has 10,000+ internet radio stations from
around the globe when used with streamtuner. And it can record as
well with streamripper.

To protect Appil fools MP3 crapola it is no wonder these asstroturfers
go to great lengths to beat down open source alternatives.

My recommendation is never to taken in by this kind of anti-Linux
negative marketing. No one goes out their way to write
anti-Linux and anti-open source articles to post on USENET
without a reason. That reason is usually asstroturfing on behalf of
big corporations with a vested interest in selling their proprietory
products agaist open source.

You only have to look at a LiveCD like Linux Mint or Sabayon Linux
with 3D desktops and free 3D games like Nexuiz before you
realize why these con artists from big corporation
are trying to intercept you before you reach and experiment
with open source alternatives.


http://www.ubuntu.com
http://www.livecdlist.com
http://www.distrowatch.com
http://www.youtube.com (search for ubuntu and compiz)

 

[Hobbes]

Re: Amarok vs Media Monkey..$20.00 vs a lifetime offrustration......

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:51:22 +0200
Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote:

> Hobbes wrote:
> > On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:44:41 +0200
> > Alias <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote:
> >
> >> Hobbes wrote:
> >>> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
> >>> news:g746ig$2q6$1@aioe.org...
> >>>> Hobbes wrote:
> >>>>> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:g7458h$cc6$1@aioe.org...
> >>>>>> Hobbes wrote:
> >>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:g7444p$v4j$1@aioe.org...
> >>>>>>>> Hobbes wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>> news:g741sf$nf5$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >>>>>>>>>> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always
> >>>>>>>>>>> found it to be slow,
> >>>>>>>>>>> bloated and unstable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst
> >>>>>>>>>>> interfaces EVER on
> >>>>>>>>>>> the face of the earth bar no operating system including
> >>>>>>>>>>> cli based DOS.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sure Amarok looks great on paper.
> >>>>>>>>>>> It's a veritable Swiss Army Knife of a media application.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The problems start when you try and actually use if,
> >>>>>>>>>>> especially on large
> >>>>>>>>>>> collections like 20k files or more.
> >>>>>>>>>> That big, eh? My music collection is bigger than 20GB and I
> >>>>>>>>>> have no problems with Amarok at all.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Alias
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> That was 20K files ( 20,000 files ) Alias.
> >>>>>>>>> ruff ruff
> >>>>>>>> I have more files than that and no problems.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Alias
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You are a buzy [sic] little beaver aren't you ?
> >>>>>>> If you start at song 1 today, by Christmas you'll have
> >>>>>>> listened to them all.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you played them in Windows...they would sound better.
> >>>>>> False. The sound card and the stereo system I have the
> >>>>>> computer hooked up to don't care what OS it's using and they
> >>>>>> sound the same.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Alias
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Really ?
> >>>>> In Windows, I can get music to play thru all 6 speakers in a
> >>>>> 5.1 speaker setup.
> >>>>> In ubuntu/kubuntu...2 speakers.
> >>>>> left and right.
> >>>>> How do I get it to play thru all in ubuntu ?
> >>>>>
> >>>> I don't have six speakers so I obviously didn't get them to play
> >>>> in either Windows or Ubuntu. My four speakers work just fine,
> >>>> thank you very much.
> >>>>
> >>>> Alias
> >>>
> >>> Wow...you have over 20,000 songs, and your setup is pretty low
> >>> end. You should just see if you can find an 8-track player.
> >>>
> >> Hardware snobs are so petty and immature.
> >>
> >> Alias
> >
> > No.
> > When we purchase 6 speakers...we like music to come out of ALL of
> > them. Ubuntu/Kubuntu turns ny PC into a brick from the early '90's.
> >
>
> You've already admitted that you can't configure Ubuntu to work
> properly and now you're bragging about it again?
>
> Alias

I can configure both ubuntu/kubuntu to the best capability of the
software.
I've read you in alt.os.linux.ubuntu ... I'm surprised you wanna go
there.
I have more knowledge in that arena than you.

--
Hobbes,Tiger Extraordinaire

 

[Alias]

Hobbes wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:51:22 +0200
> Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hobbes wrote:
>>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:44:41 +0200
>>> Alias <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>>> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
>>>>> news:g746ig$2q6$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:g7458h$cc6$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:g7444p$v4j$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:g741sf$nf5$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always
>>>>>>>>>>>>> found it to be slow,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bloated and unstable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interfaces EVER on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the face of the earth bar no operating system including
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cli based DOS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure Amarok looks great on paper.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a veritable Swiss Army Knife of a media application.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problems start when you try and actually use if,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially on large
>>>>>>>>>>>>> collections like 20k files or more.
>>>>>>>>>>>> That big, eh? My music collection is bigger than 20GB and I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have no problems with Amarok at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That was 20K files ( 20,000 files ) Alias.
>>>>>>>>>>> ruff ruff
>>>>>>>>>> I have more files than that and no problems.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are a buzy [sic] little beaver aren't you ?
>>>>>>>>> If you start at song 1 today, by Christmas you'll have
>>>>>>>>> listened to them all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you played them in Windows...they would sound better.
>>>>>>>> False. The sound card and the stereo system I have the
>>>>>>>> computer hooked up to don't care what OS it's using and they
>>>>>>>> sound the same.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really ?
>>>>>>> In Windows, I can get music to play thru all 6 speakers in a
>>>>>>> 5.1 speaker setup.
>>>>>>> In ubuntu/kubuntu...2 speakers.
>>>>>>> left and right.
>>>>>>> How do I get it to play thru all in ubuntu ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have six speakers so I obviously didn't get them to play
>>>>>> in either Windows or Ubuntu. My four speakers work just fine,
>>>>>> thank you very much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>> Wow...you have over 20,000 songs, and your setup is pretty low
>>>>> end. You should just see if you can find an 8-track player.
>>>>>
>>>> Hardware snobs are so petty and immature.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>> No.
>>> When we purchase 6 speakers...we like music to come out of ALL of
>>> them. Ubuntu/Kubuntu turns ny PC into a brick from the early '90's.
>>>
>> You've already admitted that you can't configure Ubuntu to work
>> properly and now you're bragging about it again?
>>
>> Alias
>
> I can configure both ubuntu/kubuntu to the best capability of the
> software.
> I've read you in alt.os.linux.ubuntu ... I'm surprised you wanna go
> there.
> I have more knowledge in that arena than you.
>

How long have you been a tech snob? Is it because you can't get laid?

Alias

 

[Hobbes]

Alias wrote:
> Hobbes wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:51:22 +0200
>> Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:44:41 +0200
>>>> Alias <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:g746ig$2q6$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:g7458h$cc6$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:g7444p$v4j$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:g741sf$nf5$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found it to be slow,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bloated and unstable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interfaces EVER on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the face of the earth bar no operating system including
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cli based DOS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure Amarok looks great on paper.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a veritable Swiss Army Knife of a media application.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problems start when you try and actually use if,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially on large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collections like 20k files or more.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That big, eh? My music collection is bigger than 20GB and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no problems with Amarok at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That was 20K files ( 20,000 files ) Alias.
>>>>>>>>>>>> ruff ruff
>>>>>>>>>>> I have more files than that and no problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You are a buzy [sic] little beaver aren't you ?
>>>>>>>>>> If you start at song 1 today, by Christmas you'll have
>>>>>>>>>> listened to them all.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you played them in Windows...they would sound better.
>>>>>>>>> False. The sound card and the stereo system I have the
>>>>>>>>> computer hooked up to don't care what OS it's using and they
>>>>>>>>> sound the same.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really ?
>>>>>>>> In Windows, I can get music to play thru all 6 speakers in a
>>>>>>>> 5.1 speaker setup.
>>>>>>>> In ubuntu/kubuntu...2 speakers.
>>>>>>>> left and right.
>>>>>>>> How do I get it to play thru all in ubuntu ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't have six speakers so I obviously didn't get them to play
>>>>>>> in either Windows or Ubuntu. My four speakers work just fine,
>>>>>>> thank you very much.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>> Wow...you have over 20,000 songs, and your setup is pretty low
>>>>>> end. You should just see if you can find an 8-track player.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hardware snobs are so petty and immature.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>> No.
>>>> When we purchase 6 speakers...we like music to come out of ALL of
>>>> them. Ubuntu/Kubuntu turns ny PC into a brick from the early '90's.
>>>>
>>> You've already admitted that you can't configure Ubuntu to work
>>> properly and now you're bragging about it again?
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>> I can configure both ubuntu/kubuntu to the best capability of the
>> software. I've read you in alt.os.linux.ubuntu ... I'm surprised you
>> wanna go
>> there.
>> I have more knowledge in that arena than you.
>>
>
> How long have you been a tech snob? Is it because you can't get laid?
>
> Alias

Being a Man ... I do the laying...so I don't get laid.

Notice in just this thread I've posted from ubuntu/kubuntu/Vista.
You actually need to use an OS to make comparisons.
Post from Vista.

--
Hobbes,Tiger Extraordinaire

 

[Rick]

Re: Amarok vs Media Monkey..$20.00 vs a lifetime offrustration......

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:04:17 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:

> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to be
> slow, bloated and unstable.

You are not the world. There are many that do not share your opinion.

>
> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces EVER
> on the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli based
> DOS.

You are not the world. There are many that do not share your opinion.

>
> Sure Amarok looks great on paper.
> It's a veritable Swiss Army Knife of a media application.
>
> The problems start when you try and actually use if, especially on large
> collections like 20k files or more.
>
> Amarok goes out to lunch, offers little or no feedback as to what it is
> doing other than that stupid graph paper like icon at the bottom of the
> screen and is highly unstable and slow.
>
> Enter Media Monkey...
>
> Frankly I had never heard of this program until I recently bought an
> iPod, a real iPod....

Have you been buying counterfeit iPods? Why?

>
> I'm not a big fan of iTunes, although it's ok and I absolutely hate
> Microsoft Media Player, so I was looking...
>
> Media Monkey is a dream come true.
> Simple, powerful, FAST, stable and logical is the forte' of this
> program.
>
> I'm not going to go into details, but if Linux wants to play hardball in
> the personal media world, and it better because that's the future, Media
> Monkey is the program to beat.
> It's THAT good....

You switch from your Amraok insults to Linux insults. Which is it? Are
you comparing Amarok to Media Monkey, or Media Monkey to Linux?

>
> Example?
> Glad you asked....
>
> I have many files stored in lossless flac format.. iPod doesn't support
> flac....
> Media Monkey converts automatically, on the fly, when I sync to iPod
> without touching the source files.
> All set up from the getgo...I did nothing to make this work.
>
> Simple example, but a very useful tool. it is also extremely fast at
> doing it.
>
> Amarok?
>
> A buggy piece of crap that makes all kinds of promises but delivers on
> so very few of them.

You are not the world. There are many that do not share your opinion.

>
> Media Monkey?
>
> The best $20.00 I ever spent.
>
> So what is your time and data worth?
> If nothing, try Amarok...
>
> If you value your time and data, pony up $20.00 or use the free version
> and get your life back so you actually have time to listen to your music
> instead of trying to make it work on your iPod player.

There was very little time spent getting Amarok to work with my iPod. You
really do need to get some current information.

And tell me, why didn't this to CSMA? After all, it is anti-iTunes, too.

--
Rick

 

[Jerry McBride]

Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:

> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to be slow,
> bloated and unstable.
>
> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces EVER
> on the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli based DOS.
>
> Sure Amarok looks great on paper.
> It's a veritable Swiss Army Knife of a media application.
>
> The problems start when you try and actually use if, especially on large
> collections like 20k files or more.
>
> Amarok goes out to lunch, offers little or no feedback as to what it is
> doing other than that stupid graph paper like icon at the bottom of the
> screen and is highly unstable and slow.
>
> Enter Media Monkey...
>

---snip---

Amarok... a GPL solution and an excellent piece of OSS. Runs on a cutting
edge desktop named KDE on a modern unencumbered OS called Linux.

Media Monkey, closed source with a handicapped shareware version or a
payfor, fully enabled version. It ONLY runs on an antiquated OS called
windows from a company that's on a fast track to being bankrupt, has no
sourcecode available and basicly you're stuck with what you bought...

Total cost for Linux, KDE and amaroK... $00.00. Total Cost for windows and
media monkey? Depends on the deal, but it's easily over hundreds of
dollars.






--

Jerry McBride (jmcbride@mail-on.us)

 

[Snit]

Re: Amarok vs Media Monkey..$20.00 vs a lifetime offrustration......

"Rick" <none@nomail.com> stated in post
Wd6dneYOUKMELgjVnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@supernews.com on 8/3/08 6:33 AM:

> You are not the world. There are many that do not share your opinion.

This matra was brought you you by Rick and the letter "R".

--
I think the Apple guys have a very good point when they say we should let
designers lead the definition of the user experience.
- Mark Shuttleworth (founded Canonical Ltd. / Ubuntu Linux)

 

[Hadron]

Jerry McBride <jmcbride@mail-on.us> writes:

> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to be slow,
>> bloated and unstable.
>>
>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces EVER
>> on the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli based DOS.
>>
>> Sure Amarok looks great on paper.
>> It's a veritable Swiss Army Knife of a media application.
>>
>> The problems start when you try and actually use if, especially on large
>> collections like 20k files or more.
>>
>> Amarok goes out to lunch, offers little or no feedback as to what it is
>> doing other than that stupid graph paper like icon at the bottom of the
>> screen and is highly unstable and slow.
>>
>> Enter Media Monkey...
>>
>
> ---snip---
>
> Amarok... a GPL solution and an excellent piece of OSS. Runs on a cutting
> edge desktop named KDE on a modern unencumbered OS called Linux.
>
> Media Monkey, closed source with a handicapped shareware version or a
> payfor, fully enabled version. It ONLY runs on an antiquated OS called
> windows from a company that's on a fast track to being bankrupt, has no
> sourcecode available and basicly you're stuck with what you bought...
>
> Total cost for Linux, KDE and amaroK... $00.00. Total Cost for windows and
> media monkey? Depends on the deal, but it's easily over hundreds of
> dollars.

Jerry McBride : it's all about financial cost.

--
"Unfortunately, once again, the user-unfriendly dirtware sucks so bad it's
hard to prove how bad it sucks."
-- "DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> in comp.os.linux.advocacy

 

[Hobbes]

Re: Amarok vs Media Monkey..$20.00 vs a lifetime offrustration......

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:52:19 +0200
Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote:

> Hobbes wrote:
> > On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:59:12 +0200
> > Alias <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote:
> >
> >> Hobbes wrote:
> >>> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
> >>> news:g7458h$cc6$1@aioe.org...
> >>>> Hobbes wrote:
> >>>>> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:g7444p$v4j$1@aioe.org...
> >>>>>> Hobbes wrote:
> >>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:g741sf$nf5$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >>>>>>>> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found
> >>>>>>>>> it to be slow,
> >>>>>>>>> bloated and unstable.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst
> >>>>>>>>> interfaces EVER on
> >>>>>>>>> the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli
> >>>>>>>>> based DOS.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sure Amarok looks great on paper.
> >>>>>>>>> It's a veritable Swiss Army Knife of a media application.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The problems start when you try and actually use if,
> >>>>>>>>> especially on large
> >>>>>>>>> collections like 20k files or more.
> >>>>>>>> That big, eh? My music collection is bigger than 20GB and I
> >>>>>>>> have no problems with Amarok at all.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Alias
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That was 20K files ( 20,000 files ) Alias.
> >>>>>>> ruff ruff
> >>>>>> I have more files than that and no problems.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Alias
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You are a buzy [sic] little beaver aren't you ?
> >>>>> If you start at song 1 today, by Christmas you'll have listened
> >>>>> to them all.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you played them in Windows...they would sound better.
> >>>> False. The sound card and the stereo system I have the computer
> >>>> hooked up to don't care what OS it's using and they sound the
> >>>> same.
> >>>>
> >>>> Alias
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Really ?
> >>> In Windows, I can get music to play thru all 6 speakers in a 5.1
> >>> speaker setup.
> >>> In ubuntu/kubuntu...2 speakers.
> >>> left and right.
> >>> How do I get it to play thru all in ubuntu ?
> >>>
> >> I don't have six speakers so I obviously didn't get them to play
> >> in either Windows or Ubuntu. My four speakers work just fine,
> >> thank you very much.
> >>
> >> Alias
> >
> > I do get sound from 6 speakers.
> > LF plays music.
> > RF plays music.
> > The rest of the speakers hummm.
> > Nice.
> >
>
> I get sound out of all four speakers, including surround sound.
>
> Nice.
>
> Alias

I can get sound from 4 speakers in kubuntu using KMIx "duplicate front"
switch.

Still no Center, No LFE.

What are you referring to as "surround sound".
Your 4 speakers would give you 2 lefts, and 2 rights, correct ?

I cannot play an actual audio surround DVD, I get a warning that
certain codecs may be needed, and that it may be illegal in my country
to do so.

I'll use Windows Vista when I want quality sound, I guess !

--
Hobbes,Tiger Extraordinaire

 

[Rick]

Re: Amarok vs Media Monkey..$20.00 vs a lifetime offrustration......

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:52:44 +0200, Hadron wrote:

> bob <bob@home.now> writes:
>
>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:04:17 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>
>>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always found it to be
>>> slow, bloated and unstable.
>>>
>>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst interfaces
>>> EVER on the face of the earth bar no operating system including cli
>>> based DOS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> you really are insane.
>
> Nice things about Amarok:
>
> OSD config
>
> Bad things:
>
> Awful play list handling.

.... in your opinion...

> Radio streams do not work.

I guess that explains why I have been listening to them this morning.

> Unstable.

... like you? How and when does Amarok crash on your "rock solid Debian
system"?

> Pulse audio does not work.

Haven't. messed with Pulse yet.

> Hangs on importing large directories of mixed music types.


So, tell us, what is he maximum import that can be safely managed, and
what mixture?


--
Rick

 

[Alias]

Hobbes wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Hobbes wrote:
>>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:51:22 +0200
>>> Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:44:41 +0200
>>>>> Alias <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:g746ig$2q6$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:g7458h$cc6$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.jo> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:g7444p$v4j$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hobbes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:g741sf$nf5$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've used Amarok since it was pre 1.0 and have always
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found it to be slow,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bloated and unstable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally the interface has to rank amongst the worst
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interfaces EVER on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the face of the earth bar no operating system including
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cli based DOS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure Amarok looks great on paper.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a veritable Swiss Army Knife of a media application.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problems start when you try and actually use if,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially on large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collections like 20k files or more.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That big, eh? My music collection is bigger than 20GB and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no problems with Amarok at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was 20K files ( 20,000 files ) Alias.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ruff ruff
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have more files than that and no problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You are a buzy [sic] little beaver aren't you ?
>>>>>>>>>>> If you start at song 1 today, by Christmas you'll have
>>>>>>>>>>> listened to them all.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you played them in Windows...they would sound better.
>>>>>>>>>> False. The sound card and the stereo system I have the
>>>>>>>>>> computer hooked up to don't care what OS it's using and they
>>>>>>>>>> sound the same.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Really ?
>>>>>>>>> In Windows, I can get music to play thru all 6 speakers in a
>>>>>>>>> 5.1 speaker setup.
>>>>>>>>> In ubuntu/kubuntu...2 speakers.
>>>>>>>>> left and right.
>>>>>>>>> How do I get it to play thru all in ubuntu ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't have six speakers so I obviously didn't get them to play
>>>>>>>> in either Windows or Ubuntu. My four speakers work just fine,
>>>>>>>> thank you very much.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>> Wow...you have over 20,000 songs, and your setup is pretty low
>>>>>>> end. You should just see if you can find an 8-track player.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hardware snobs are so petty and immature.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>> No.
>>>>> When we purchase 6 speakers...we like music to come out of ALL of
>>>>> them. Ubuntu/Kubuntu turns ny PC into a brick from the early '90's.
>>>>>
>>>> You've already admitted that you can't configure Ubuntu to work
>>>> properly and now you're bragging about it again?
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> I can configure both ubuntu/kubuntu to the best capability of the
>>> software. I've read you in alt.os.linux.ubuntu ... I'm surprised you
>>> wanna go
>>> there.
>>> I have more knowledge in that arena than you.
>>>
>>
>> How long have you been a tech snob? Is it because you can't get laid?
>>
>> Alias
>
> Being a Man ... I do the laying...

How many eggs do you lay a day?

> so I don't get laid.

Figures.

>
> Notice in just this thread I've posted from ubuntu/kubuntu/Vista.

Bully for you.

> You actually need to use an OS to make comparisons.

Do you need to jump off a 20 story building to know it isn't a good idea?

> Post from Vista.

When I install it for gaming, I will. Until then, I have better things
to do.

Alias