Only 19 More Days to Go!

[Alias]

On April 29th, the Long Term Support version of Ubuntu will be released,

a release that Mark Shuttleworth devoted all his time to so that Ubuntu

will finally shoot Windows out of the proverbial window. Get it at

http://www.ubuntu.com/ You'll be glad you did.



What can be done with Ubuntu:



Email

Surf the web

Burn CDs.

Rip CDs.

Listen to music.

Watch vidoes/DVDs.

Scan and print.

Spreadsheets.

Presentations

Newsgroups.

HTML editing.

Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.

Make videos.

Download photos from a camera and organize them.

Translations.

Use a dictionary

Learn how to touch type.

Edit images.

Send and receive a fax.

Take screenshots.

Create .PDF files.

Create and use a data base.

Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including

Windows Live Messenger.

IRC.

Bluetooth.



and much more!



What you can't do with Ubuntu:



Worry about:

WPA, WGA and WAT raising their false positive ugly heads,

DRM,

Viruses,

Root kits,

Spyware,

and

Malware.



--

Alias

 

[Unbeliever]

Alias wrote:

> On April 29th, the Long Term Support version of Ubuntu will be

> released, a release that Mark Shuttleworth devoted all his time to so

> that Ubuntu will finally shoot Windows out of the proverbial window.

> Get it at http://www.ubuntu.com/ You'll be glad you did.

>

> What can be done with Ubuntu:

>

> Email

> Surf the web

> Burn CDs.

> Rip CDs.

> Listen to music.

> Watch vidoes/DVDs.

> Scan and print.

> Spreadsheets.

> Presentations

> Newsgroups.

> HTML editing.

> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.

> Make videos.

> Download photos from a camera and organize them.

> Translations.

> Use a dictionary

> Learn how to touch type.

> Edit images.

> Send and receive a fax.

> Take screenshots.

> Create .PDF files.

> Create and use a data base.

> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including

> Windows Live Messenger.

> IRC.

> Bluetooth.

>

> and much more!



So what's new? Windows can do all that - and more - without all the faffing

about trying to get a peripheral to work properly (or even work)!

> What you can't do with Ubuntu:

>

> Worry about:

> WPA, WGA and WAT raising their false positive ugly heads,

> DRM,



Somebody need paying for all the work - and why would DRM be needed if all

the composers and artists stopped doing 'their thing' because there is no

profit in it - would *YOU* work for nothing, would *YOU* want *YOUR* work

stolen? I really doubt you would do that - presuming you actually do

*WORK*!



> Viruses,

> Root kits,

> Spyware,

> and

> Malware.



And you *really* believe that Linfux is *IMMUNE* from such attacks? If you

do, then come of that cloud and Google a bit - and you will find that whilst

attacks are not that common, Linfux (and Apple) have been successfully

attacked and machines infected - and that's why anti-virus, firewalls and

malware applications are written for it!!



Only *fools* and *idiots* believe that Linfux (and its derivatives) is

immune from nasties - and infallible to boot!



Now which are you? *eg*

 

[Alias]

Unbeliever wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> On April 29th, the Long Term Support version of Ubuntu will be

>> released, a release that Mark Shuttleworth devoted all his time to so

>> that Ubuntu will finally shoot Windows out of the proverbial window.

>> Get it at http://www.ubuntu.com/ You'll be glad you did.

>>

>> What can be done with Ubuntu:

>>

>> Email

>> Surf the web

>> Burn CDs.

>> Rip CDs.

>> Listen to music.

>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.

>> Scan and print.

>> Spreadsheets.

>> Presentations

>> Newsgroups.

>> HTML editing.

>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.

>> Make videos.

>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.

>> Translations.

>> Use a dictionary

>> Learn how to touch type.

>> Edit images.

>> Send and receive a fax.

>> Take screenshots.

>> Create .PDF files.

>> Create and use a data base.

>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including

>> Windows Live Messenger.

>> IRC.

>> Bluetooth.

>>

>> and much more!

>

> So what's new? Windows can do all that - and more - without all the faffing

> about trying to get a peripheral to work properly (or even work)!



I have no problems with any of my peripherals.



>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:

>>

>> Worry about:

>> WPA, WGA and WAT raising their false positive ugly heads,

>> DRM,

>

> Somebody need paying for all the work - and why would DRM be needed if all

> the composers and artists stopped doing 'their thing' because there is no

> profit in it - would *YOU* work for nothing, would *YOU* want *YOUR* work

> stolen? I really doubt you would do that - presuming you actually do

> *WORK*!



Someone asked Mick Jagger why he was on tour after his divorce from

Bianca and he said, "I'm broke and need to make some money". When asked

about his records, he replied, "no one but the record companies make

money on that". Cry me a fucking river but don't DRM my computer.



>

>> Viruses,

>> Root kits,

>> Spyware,

>> and

>> Malware.

>

> And you *really* believe that Linfux is *IMMUNE* from such attacks?



Considering I didn't say that.



> If you

> do, then come of that cloud and Google a bit - and you will find that whilst

> attacks are not that common, Linfux (and Apple) have been successfully

> attacked and machines infected - and that's why anti-virus, firewalls and

> malware applications are written for it!!



Name one malware in the wild currently attacking Linux boxes and I'll

name hundreds, if not thousands, of malware for Windows.



>

> Only *fools* and *idiots* believe that Linfux (and its derivatives) is

> immune from nasties - and infallible to boot!

>

> Now which are you? *eg*

>

>



Never said it is infallible but compared to Windows it's bullet proof

which is the point, dumb ass.



--

Alias

 

[Frank]

alias is pimping linux garbage...again!

On 4/10/2010 3:51 PM, Alias, the lying pimp wrote:





Hey pimp...how does it feel to have your ass kicked in here by everyone,

huh?

Oops! What POS you are.

 

[Muad'Dib]

Unbeliever wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> On April 29th, the Long Term Support version of Ubuntu will be

>> released, a release that Mark Shuttleworth devoted all his time to so

>> that Ubuntu will finally shoot Windows out of the proverbial window.

>> Get it at http://www.ubuntu.com/ You'll be glad you did.

>>

>> What can be done with Ubuntu:

>>

>> Email

>> Surf the web

>> Burn CDs.

>> Rip CDs.

>> Listen to music.

>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.

>> Scan and print.

>> Spreadsheets.

>> Presentations

>> Newsgroups.

>> HTML editing.

>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.

>> Make videos.

>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.

>> Translations.

>> Use a dictionary

>> Learn how to touch type.

>> Edit images.

>> Send and receive a fax.

>> Take screenshots.

>> Create .PDF files.

>> Create and use a data base.

>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including

>> Windows Live Messenger.

>> IRC.

>> Bluetooth.

>>

>> and much more!

>

> So what's new? Windows can do all that - and more - without all the faffing

> about trying to get a peripheral to work properly (or even work)!

>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:

>>

>> Worry about:

>> WPA, WGA and WAT raising their false positive ugly heads,

>> DRM,

>

> Somebody need paying for all the work - and why would DRM be needed if all

> the composers and artists stopped doing 'their thing' because there is no

> profit in it - would *YOU* work for nothing, would *YOU* want *YOUR* work

> stolen? I really doubt you would do that - presuming you actually do

> *WORK*!

>

>> Viruses,

>> Root kits,

>> Spyware,

>> and

>> Malware.

>

> And you *really* believe that Linfux is *IMMUNE* from such attacks? If you

> do, then come of that cloud and Google a bit - and you will find that whilst

> attacks are not that common, Linfux (and Apple) have been successfully

> attacked and machines infected - and that's why anti-virus, firewalls and

> malware applications are written for it!!



Rare, and if your Linux is properly locked down, one has to not only

give permission, but type in their password as well for higher level

processes, so sure if on the very rare occasion one is stupid enough to

give higher level permission having not started the process

himself/herself, they jolly well deserve what they get really. Sorry but

with computing and networking, I have NO compassion for stupidity.

Either get educated or suffer the consequences. I work very hard to

educate my clients and except for a few that ignore what they have been

taught, I am gaining ground with them. Bummer, as constant infected

Winders machines is a cash cow really. Those that I have convinced to

dual boot with Linux I hardly hear from... My bad I guess, lost revenue

there! LOL ..BUT, happier clients, and more referrals.



Anti virus for Linux is mostly so you don't pass along infected emails

that came in from infected Winders machines etc. forwarded to Winders

machines. I have run the Linux ClamAV from time to time out of curiosity

mostly, over the past few years and nope nothing on my machine in

general, however it has caught crap sent to me in emails from infected

Winders machines that my ISP's AV didn't catch. Hmmm Imagine that.. LOL



> Only *fools* and *idiots* believe that Linfux (and its derivatives) is

> immune from nasties - and infallible to boot!



Only "fools" and "idiots" think they are safe with Winders at all, and

think Linux isn't better, SAFER, (NOT infallible, nothing is), about

security than Winders. Anyone who claims they never get hit with a

Winders Virus is most likely a liar. As one that is savvy, and one who

practices very safe hex, I have caught them while in Winders going to

sites I very well knew were ok before, but got hacked and the

virus/malware STILL installed bypassing both Winders and AV. As stated

by another person, name ONE, ONE, threat that is going wild amongst

personal computer Linux boxes. Well? I have just recently had to clean 4

client's computers running Winders and with GOOD updated AV that caught

"nasties" from simply visiting trusted sites that had been hacked. BAM!

No warning at all and they were infected. I visited the same sites while

booted to Linux, and well, here I am MY box is STILL "clean." LOL Get

real eh?



I beta tested then RC tested Win7, then pre-ordered and eventually

installed it as, yep, a dual boot with Linux. (And Vista so triple boot,

Ug, the Wife likes Vista..Why? Beats me! lol) While I like Win7 a lot

and use it for various reasons, my mainstay is Linux for serious

security purposes period. (AND, incredible customization/effects) I use

them both for the best of BOTH worlds.



G'day

 

[Alias]

Muad'Dib wrote:



> I use

> them both for the best of BOTH worlds.

>

> G'day



Me too.

--

Alias

 

[Gordon]

"Alias" wrote in message

news:hps11m$is9$1@news.eternal-september.org...

> Muad'Dib wrote:

>

>> I use

>> them both for the best of BOTH worlds.

>>

>> G'day

>

> Me too.



Same here.

 

[Unbeliever]

Alias wrote:

> Unbeliever wrote:

>> Alias wrote:

>>> On April 29th, the Long Term Support version of Ubuntu will be

>>> released, a release that Mark Shuttleworth devoted all his time to

>>> so that Ubuntu will finally shoot Windows out of the proverbial

>>> window. Get it at http://www.ubuntu.com/ You'll be glad you did.

>>>

>>> What can be done with Ubuntu:

>>>

>>> Email

>>> Surf the web

>>> Burn CDs.

>>> Rip CDs.

>>> Listen to music.

>>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.

>>> Scan and print.

>>> Spreadsheets.

>>> Presentations

>>> Newsgroups.

>>> HTML editing.

>>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.

>>> Make videos.

>>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.

>>> Translations.

>>> Use a dictionary

>>> Learn how to touch type.

>>> Edit images.

>>> Send and receive a fax.

>>> Take screenshots.

>>> Create .PDF files.

>>> Create and use a data base.

>>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including

>>> Windows Live Messenger.

>>> IRC.

>>> Bluetooth.

>>>

>>> and much more!

>>

>> So what's new? Windows can do all that - and more - without all the

>> faffing about trying to get a peripheral to work properly (or even

>> work)!

>

> I have no problems with any of my peripherals.



After you have spent hours on the Linfux command lines to get 'em to work.



>>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:

>>>

>>> Worry about:

>>> WPA, WGA and WAT raising their false positive ugly heads,

>>> DRM,

>>

>> Somebody need paying for all the work - and why would DRM be needed

>> if all the composers and artists stopped doing 'their thing' because

>> there is no profit in it - would *YOU* work for nothing, would *YOU*

>> want *YOUR* work stolen? I really doubt you would do that -

>> presuming you actually do *WORK*!

>

> Someone asked Mick Jagger why he was on tour after his divorce from

> Bianca and he said, "I'm broke and need to make some money". When

> asked about his records, he replied, "no one but the record companies

> make money on that". Cry me a fucking river but don't DRM my computer.

>



If that was the case, Jagger's not a millionair then? But the question is

still unanswered - would *you* want *your* work stolen?



>>> Viruses,

>>> Root kits,

>>> Spyware,

>>> and

>>> Malware.

>>

>> And you *really* believe that Linfux is *IMMUNE* from such attacks?

>

> Considering I didn't say that.



That *WAS* the impression that you gave.



>> If you

>> do, then come of that cloud and Google a bit - and you will find

>> that whilst attacks are not that common, Linfux (and Apple) have

>> been successfully attacked and machines infected - and that's why

>> anti-virus, firewalls and malware applications are written for it!!

>

> Name one malware in the wild currently attacking Linux boxes and I'll

> name hundreds, if not thousands, of malware for Windows.



Try Googling and you will get the answer, as for the number - well look at

Windows users compared to Linfux users and do the maths youself to see which

is the most profitable to attack.

>>

>> Only *fools* and *idiots* believe that Linfux (and its derivatives)

>> is immune from nasties - and infallible to boot!

>>

>> Now which are you? *eg*

>>

>>

>

> Never said it is infallible but compared to Windows it's bullet proof

> which is the point, dumb ass.



A contradiction there I believe dumb-fuck, and Linfux is certaing *NOT*

"bullet proof" - there are less attacks on it simply because of the

comparatively low number of users. And why are the users of it low?

Because of all the fucking about to get things to work - it's mostly only

geeks who love spending hours typing command lines and those who like

playing with themselves prefer toying with Linfux.



Ah well...

 

[Alias]

Unbeliever wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> Unbeliever wrote:

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>> On April 29th, the Long Term Support version of Ubuntu will be

>>>> released, a release that Mark Shuttleworth devoted all his time to

>>>> so that Ubuntu will finally shoot Windows out of the proverbial

>>>> window. Get it at http://www.ubuntu.com/ You'll be glad you did.

>>>>

>>>> What can be done with Ubuntu:

>>>>

>>>> Email

>>>> Surf the web

>>>> Burn CDs.

>>>> Rip CDs.

>>>> Listen to music.

>>>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.

>>>> Scan and print.

>>>> Spreadsheets.

>>>> Presentations

>>>> Newsgroups.

>>>> HTML editing.

>>>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.

>>>> Make videos.

>>>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.

>>>> Translations.

>>>> Use a dictionary

>>>> Learn how to touch type.

>>>> Edit images.

>>>> Send and receive a fax.

>>>> Take screenshots.

>>>> Create .PDF files.

>>>> Create and use a data base.

>>>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including

>>>> Windows Live Messenger.

>>>> IRC.

>>>> Bluetooth.

>>>>

>>>> and much more!

>>>

>>> So what's new? Windows can do all that - and more - without all the

>>> faffing about trying to get a peripheral to work properly (or even

>>> work)!

>>

>> I have no problems with any of my peripherals.

>

> After you have spent hours on the Linfux command lines to get 'em to work.

>

>>>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:

>>>>

>>>> Worry about:

>>>> WPA, WGA and WAT raising their false positive ugly heads,

>>>> DRM,

>>>

>>> Somebody need paying for all the work - and why would DRM be needed

>>> if all the composers and artists stopped doing 'their thing' because

>>> there is no profit in it - would *YOU* work for nothing, would *YOU*

>>> want *YOUR* work stolen? I really doubt you would do that -

>>> presuming you actually do *WORK*!

>>

>> Someone asked Mick Jagger why he was on tour after his divorce from

>> Bianca and he said, "I'm broke and need to make some money". When

>> asked about his records, he replied, "no one but the record companies

>> make money on that". Cry me a fucking river but don't DRM my computer.

>>

>

> If that was the case, Jagger's not a millionair then? But the question is

> still unanswered - would *you* want *your* work stolen?

>

>>>> Viruses,

>>>> Root kits,

>>>> Spyware,

>>>> and

>>>> Malware.

>>>

>>> And you *really* believe that Linfux is *IMMUNE* from such attacks?

>>

>> Considering I didn't say that.

>

> That *WAS* the impression that you gave.

>

>>> If you

>>> do, then come of that cloud and Google a bit - and you will find

>>> that whilst attacks are not that common, Linfux (and Apple) have

>>> been successfully attacked and machines infected - and that's why

>>> anti-virus, firewalls and malware applications are written for it!!

>>

>> Name one malware in the wild currently attacking Linux boxes and I'll

>> name hundreds, if not thousands, of malware for Windows.

>

> Try Googling and you will get the answer, as for the number - well look at

> Windows users compared to Linfux users and do the maths youself to see which

> is the most profitable to attack.

>>>

>>> Only *fools* and *idiots* believe that Linfux (and its derivatives)

>>> is immune from nasties - and infallible to boot!

>>>

>>> Now which are you? *eg*

>>>

>>>

>>

>> Never said it is infallible but compared to Windows it's bullet proof

>> which is the point, dumb ass.

>

> A contradiction there I believe dumb-fuck, and Linfux is certaing *NOT*

> "bullet proof" -



I didn't say it was. I said "compared to Windows". Please read for

content, not what you want to see.



> there are less attacks on it simply because of the

> comparatively low number of users.



Oh dear, another windroid who is unfamiliar with the differences in

architecture between Windows and Linux.



> And why are the users of it low?



Due to MS FUD and because most people haven't heard of it but that's

changing fast.



FUD:



> Because of all the fucking about to get things to work - it's mostly only

> geeks who love spending hours typing command lines and those who like

> playing with themselves prefer toying with Linfux.

>

> Ah well...



Command lines for Windows 7:



ASSOC Displays or modifies file extension associations.

ATTRIB Displays or changes file attributes.

BREAK Sets or clears extended CTRL+C checking.

BCDBOOT* Used to copy critical files to the system partition and to

create a new system BCD store.

BCDEDIT Sets properties in boot database to control boot loading.

CACLS Displays or modifies access control lists (ACLs) of files.

CALL Calls one batch program from another.

CD Displays the name of or changes the current directory.

CHCP Displays or sets the active code page number.

CHDIR Displays the name of or changes the current directory.

CHKDSK Checks a disk and displays a status report.

CHKNTFS Displays or modifies the checking of disk at boot time.

CHOICE Batch file command that allows users to select from a set of options.

CIPHER Displays or alters the encryption of directories [files] on NTFS

partitions.

CLIP Redirects output of another command to the Windows clipboard.

CLS Clears the screen.

CMD Starts a new instance of the Windows command interpreter.

CMDKEY Creates, lists and deletes stored user names and passwords or

credentials.

COLOR Sets the default console foreground and background colors.

COMP Compares the contents of two files or sets of files byte-by-byte

COMPACT Displays or alters the compression of files on NTFS partitions.

CONVERT Converts FAT volumes to NTFS. You cannot convert the current drive.

COPY Copies one or more files to another location.

DATE Displays or sets the date.

DEFRAG Disk defragmenter accessory.

DEL Deletes one or more files.

DIR Displays a list of files and subdirectories in a directory.

DISKCOMP Compares the contents of two floppy disks.

DISKCOPY Copies the contents of one floppy disk to another.

DISKPART Displays or configures Disk Partition properties. A separte

command interpreter with a sub-set of commands.

DOSKEY Edits command lines, recalls Windows commands, and creates macros.

DRIVERQUERY Displays current device driver status and properties.

ECHO Displays messages, or turns command echoing on or off.

ENDLOCAL Ends localization of environment changes in a batch file.

ERASE Deletes one or more files.

EXIT Quits and closes the command shell.

EXPAND Expands one or more compressed files.

FC Compares two files or sets of files, and displays the differences

between them.

FIND Searches for a text string in a file or files.

FINDSTR Searches for strings in files.

FOR Runs a specified command for each item in a set.

FORFILES Selects files in a folder for batch processing.

FORMAT Formats a disk for use with Windows.

FSUTIL Displays or configures the file system properties.

FTYPE Displays or modifies file types used in file extension associations.

GOTO Directs the Windows command interpreter to a labeled line in a

batch program.

GPRESULT Displays Group Policy information for machine or user.

GRAFTABL Enables Windows to display an extended character set in

graphics mode.

HELP Provides Help information for Windows commands.

ICACLS Display, modify, backup, or restore ACLs for files and

directories (more here).

IF Performs conditional processing in batch programs.

IPCONFIG Displays all current TCP/IP network configuration values

LABEL Creates, changes, or deletes the volume label of a disk.

MD Creates a directory.

MKDIR Creates a directory.

MKLINK Creates Symbolic Links and Hard Links

MODE Configures a system device.

MORE Displays output one screen at a time.

MOVE Moves one or more files from one directory to another directory.

OPENFILES Queries, displays, or disconnects open files or files opened

by network users.

PATH Displays or sets a search path for executable files.

PAUSE Suspends processing of a batch file and displays a message.

POPD Restores the previous value of the current directory saved by PUSHD.

PRINT Prints a text file.

PROMPT Changes the Windows command prompt.

PUSHD Saves the current directory then changes it.

RD Removes a directory.

RECOVER Recovers readable information from a bad or defective disk.

REM Designates comments (remarks) in batch files

REN Renames a file or files.

RENAME Renames a file or files.

REPLACE Replaces files.

RMDIR Removes a directory.

ROBOCOPY Advanced utility to copy files and directory trees

SET Displays, sets, or removes environment variables for current session.

SETLOCAL Begins localization of environment changes in a batch file.

SETX Sets environment variables.

SC Displays or configures services (background processes).

SCHTASKS Schedules commands and programs to run on a computer.

SHIFT Shifts the position of replaceable parameters in batch files.

SHUTDOWN Allows proper local or remote shutdown of machine.

SORT Sorts input.

START Starts a separate window to run a specified program or command.

SUBST Associates a path with a drive letter.

SYSTEMINFO Displays machine specific properties and configuration.

TAKEOWN Allows an administrator to take ownership of a file (more here).

TASKLIST Displays all currently running tasks including services.

TASKKILL Kill or stop a running process or application.

TIME Displays or sets the system time.

TIMEOUT Pauses the command processor for the specified number of

seconds.More here.

TITLE Sets the window title for a CMD.EXE session.

TREE Graphically displays the directory structure of a drive or path.

TYPE Displays the contents of a text file.

VER Displays the Windows version.

VERIFY Tells Windows whether to verify that your files are written

correctly to a disk.

VOL Displays a disk volume label and serial number.

VSSADMIN Volume Shadow Copy Service administration tool

WHERE Displays the location of files that match a search pattern.

XCOPY Copies files and directory trees.

WMIC Displays WMI information inside interactive command shell.

--

Alias

 

[Gordon]

"Unbeliever" wrote in message

news:hpt3ge$n2l$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>

> After you have spent hours on the Linfux command lines to get 'em to work.

>

Rubbish.



> If that was the case, Jagger's not a millionair then? But the question is

> still unanswered - would *you* want *your* work stolen?

>



That's not the point. DRM restricts fair use. If I BUY a CD then why

shouldn't I be able to listen to it on my laptop, my HiFi OR my mp3 player?

After all I can't listen to all three at once...



>>>

>>> And you *really* believe that Linfux is *IMMUNE* from such attacks?



It's far more immune that Windows by design.



>

> Try Googling and you will get the answer, as for the number - well look at

> Windows users compared to Linfux users and do the maths youself to see

> which is the most profitable to attack.



Nothing to do with "profitability" - it's all down to EASE of attack. A

ten-year old can write a Windows virus...





>> Only *fools* and *idiots* believe that Linfux (and its derivatives)

>>> is immune from nasties - and infallible to boot!



So as Linux runs the majority of web servers, where are all the Linux

viruses then?



>

> A contradiction there I believe dumb-fuck, and Linfux is certaing *NOT*

> "bullet proof" - there are less attacks on it simply because of the

> comparatively low number of users.



Not so. See above. It's the DIFFICULTY of writing Linux viruses, not the

numbers of boxes. As I said - Linux runs the majority of web servers so by

your logic there should be loads of Linux viruses. But there aren't. AFAIK

there's only a hundred or less in the wild as opposed to MILLIONS of Windows

viruses.



> And why are the users of it low? Because of all the fucking about to get

> things to work - it's mostly only geeks who love spending hours typing

> command lines and those who like playing with themselves prefer toying

> with Linfux.

>



Cretin. My Ubuntu just works out of the box - no "typing command lines" at

all.

Why is it the MS shills have to resort to abuse, disinformation and

downright LIES rather than coherent argument? Because they HAVE no coherent

argument.

 

[Alias]

Unbeliever wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> Unbeliever wrote:

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>> On April 29th, the Long Term Support version of Ubuntu will be

>>>> released, a release that Mark Shuttleworth devoted all his time to

>>>> so that Ubuntu will finally shoot Windows out of the proverbial

>>>> window. Get it at http://www.ubuntu.com/ You'll be glad you did.

>>>>

>>>> What can be done with Ubuntu:

>>>>

>>>> Email

>>>> Surf the web

>>>> Burn CDs.

>>>> Rip CDs.

>>>> Listen to music.

>>>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.

>>>> Scan and print.

>>>> Spreadsheets.

>>>> Presentations

>>>> Newsgroups.

>>>> HTML editing.

>>>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.

>>>> Make videos.

>>>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.

>>>> Translations.

>>>> Use a dictionary

>>>> Learn how to touch type.

>>>> Edit images.

>>>> Send and receive a fax.

>>>> Take screenshots.

>>>> Create .PDF files.

>>>> Create and use a data base.

>>>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including

>>>> Windows Live Messenger.

>>>> IRC.

>>>> Bluetooth.

>>>>

>>>> and much more!

>>>

>>> So what's new? Windows can do all that - and more - without all the

>>> faffing about trying to get a peripheral to work properly (or even

>>> work)!

>>

>> I have no problems with any of my peripherals.

>

> After you have spent hours on the Linfux command lines to get 'em to work.

>



Not my experience. The printer was a couple of clicks. The scanner

automagically got installed upon being connected to the computer.



>>>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:

>>>>

>>>> Worry about:

>>>> WPA, WGA and WAT raising their false positive ugly heads,

>>>> DRM,

>>>

>>> Somebody need paying for all the work - and why would DRM be needed

>>> if all the composers and artists stopped doing 'their thing' because

>>> there is no profit in it - would *YOU* work for nothing, would *YOU*

>>> want *YOUR* work stolen? I really doubt you would do that -

>>> presuming you actually do *WORK*!

>>

>> Someone asked Mick Jagger why he was on tour after his divorce from

>> Bianca and he said, "I'm broke and need to make some money". When

>> asked about his records, he replied, "no one but the record companies

>> make money on that". Cry me a fucking river but don't DRM my computer.

>>

>

> If that was the case, Jagger's not a millionair then?



Can't read? Reread it and maybe you will see why you just asked a stupid

question.



But the question is

> still unanswered - would *you* want *your* work stolen?



My work is providing a service and it's impossible to steal unless you

steal me and make me work for you for free. In Spain, where I live, if

you buy a blank CD, you pay what they call a "canon", money that goes to

the recording and film industry to make up for downloaded music and

songs. Our constitution (one of the most modern in the world) prevents

judges from ruling on the side of the multinational music and film

industries when they try to fine some poor grandmother hundreds of

thousands of dollars for downloading ten songs.



>

>>>> Viruses,

>>>> Root kits,

>>>> Spyware,

>>>> and

>>>> Malware.

>>>

>>> And you *really* believe that Linfux is *IMMUNE* from such attacks?

>>

>> Considering I didn't say that.

>

> That *WAS* the impression that you gave.



No, that was the impression you wanted and think you got.



>

>>> If you

>>> do, then come of that cloud and Google a bit - and you will find

>>> that whilst attacks are not that common, Linfux (and Apple) have

>>> been successfully attacked and machines infected - and that's why

>>> anti-virus, firewalls and malware applications are written for it!!

>>

>> Name one malware in the wild currently attacking Linux boxes and I'll

>> name hundreds, if not thousands, of malware for Windows.

>

> Try Googling and you will get the answer, as for the number - well look at

> Windows users compared to Linfux users and do the maths youself to see which

> is the most profitable to attack.



Name one. You can't.



>>>

>>> Only *fools* and *idiots* believe that Linfux (and its derivatives)

>>> is immune from nasties - and infallible to boot!

>>>

>>> Now which are you? *eg*

>>>

>>>

>>

>> Never said it is infallible but compared to Windows it's bullet proof

>> which is the point, dumb ass.

>

> A contradiction there I believe dumb-fuck, and Linfux is certaing *NOT*

> "bullet proof" -



You missed the phrase "compared to Windows" again.



> there are less attacks on it simply because of the

> comparatively low number of users.



No, it has to do with the differences in architecture.



> And why are the users of it low?

> Because of all the fucking about to get things to work - it's mostly only

> geeks who love spending hours typing command lines and those who like

> playing with themselves prefer toying with Linfux.



No, the reason is that most people believe the FUD MS and others spread

about Linux and most don't know how user friendly it is. You are a

perfect example of a FUD True Believer.



>

> Ah well...



Well what?

>

>

>

>

>





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[Muad'Dib]

Gordon wrote:

>

> "Unbeliever" wrote in message

> news:hpt3ge$n2l$1@news.eternal-september.org...



> Cretin. My Ubuntu just works out of the box - no "typing command lines"

> at all.

> Why is it the MS shills have to resort to abuse, disinformation and

> downright LIES rather than coherent argument? Because they HAVE no

> coherent argument.



Ain't that the truth. ..According to actual MS internal documents I have

read myself that were released to the public as a result of ONE of the

antitrust lawsuits, that IS their standard M.O. ..Disinformation, FUD,

intimidation, lies, astroturfing, ETC. (All the despicable crap) No

mystery there, as their methods have been exposed for all to see if they

want to investigate. Uninformed people have no idea just how low MS will

and does go to develop, promote themselves and products. Even their

claims of user base numbers is 1/2 truths or out-and-out lies. There

could be 200mil computers sitting on shelves around the world, but they

dishonestly include those in their "sales" figures related to USERS

using their product. And Blamer is SO proud, LOL, what a pig.



No big surprise if one has educated them self as to how MS got started.

(The early days) Lies, stealing technology, dirty dealings, cheating,

sneaky underhanded crap, and so on, yet the Zealots and Shills ignore or

flatly deny the TRUTH. (LOL, Standard MO) BUT, the INFORMED know jolly

well better, so the Shills/Zealots can cackle all they want, but it's

pretty hard to deny what is written in black and white. ..Try as they

will to deny..



G'day

 

[Frank]

On 4/14/2010 3:14 AM, Muad'Dib wrote:

> Gordon wrote:

>>

>> "Unbeliever" wrote in message

>> news:hpt3ge$n2l$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>

>> Cretin. My Ubuntu just works out of the box - no "typing command

>> lines" at all.

>> Why is it the MS shills have to resort to abuse, disinformation and

>> downright LIES rather than coherent argument? Because they HAVE no

>> coherent argument.

>

> Ain't that the truth. ..According to actual MS internal documents I have

> read myself that were released to the public as a result of ONE of the

> antitrust lawsuits, that IS their standard M.O. ..Disinformation, FUD,

> intimidation, lies, astroturfing, ETC. (All the despicable crap) No

> mystery there, as their methods have been exposed for all to see if they

> want to investigate. Uninformed people have no idea just how low MS will

> and does go to develop, promote themselves and products. Even their

> claims of user base numbers is 1/2 truths or out-and-out lies. There

> could be 200mil computers sitting on shelves around the world, but they

> dishonestly include those in their "sales" figures related to USERS

> using their product. And Blamer is SO proud, LOL, what a pig.

>

> No big surprise if one has educated them self as to how MS got started.

> (The early days) Lies, stealing technology, dirty dealings, cheating,

> sneaky underhanded crap, and so on, yet the Zealots and Shills ignore or

> flatly deny the TRUTH. (LOL, Standard MO) BUT, the INFORMED know jolly

> well better, so the Shills/Zealots can cackle all they want, but it's

> pretty hard to deny what is written in black and white. ..Try as they

> will to deny..

>

> G'day



You mean like how L.T. reversed engineered unix to make linux? Is that

the kind of stealing, cheating and lying you're referring to?

Oops!

 

[Muad'Dib]

Frank wrote:

> On 4/14/2010 3:14 AM, Muad'Dib wrote:

>> Gordon wrote:

>>>

>>> "Unbeliever" wrote in message

>>> news:hpt3ge$n2l$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>

>>> Cretin. My Ubuntu just works out of the box - no "typing command

>>> lines" at all.

>>> Why is it the MS shills have to resort to abuse, disinformation and

>>> downright LIES rather than coherent argument? Because they HAVE no

>>> coherent argument.

>>

>> Ain't that the truth. ..According to actual MS internal documents I have

>> read myself that were released to the public as a result of ONE of the

>> antitrust lawsuits, that IS their standard M.O. ..Disinformation, FUD,

>> intimidation, lies, astroturfing, ETC. (All the despicable crap) No

>> mystery there, as their methods have been exposed for all to see if they

>> want to investigate. Uninformed people have no idea just how low MS will

>> and does go to develop, promote themselves and products. Even their

>> claims of user base numbers is 1/2 truths or out-and-out lies. There

>> could be 200mil computers sitting on shelves around the world, but they

>> dishonestly include those in their "sales" figures related to USERS

>> using their product. And Blamer is SO proud, LOL, what a pig.

>>

>> No big surprise if one has educated them self as to how MS got started.

>> (The early days) Lies, stealing technology, dirty dealings, cheating,

>> sneaky underhanded crap, and so on, yet the Zealots and Shills ignore or

>> flatly deny the TRUTH. (LOL, Standard MO) BUT, the INFORMED know jolly

>> well better, so the Shills/Zealots can cackle all they want, but it's

>> pretty hard to deny what is written in black and white. ..Try as they

>> will to deny..

>>

>> G'day

>

> You mean like how L.T. reversed engineered unix to make linux? Is that

> the kind of stealing, cheating and lying you're referring to?

> Oops!



2007:



"In the United States, SCO's Linux/Unix litigation has been stalled out

while the company's bankruptcy trial is being dealt with. In Germany,

however, several court cases have found SCO Group GmbH, SCO's Germany

branch, guilty of lying about Linux containing stolen Unix code."



They were found guilty of LYING, get it? Not merely accusing but

flat-out LYING..



NOVELL owns Unix yet they have no problem with Linux, instead they

EMBRACE Linux and have a Distro of their own.



It is a Unix LIKE OS, nothing more. Furthermore, L.T. hasn't spent a

lifetime with disinformation, FUD, intimidation, lies, astroturfing,

stealing technology, dirty dealings, cheating, sneaky underhanded crap

to promote his OS, unlike MS and its OS and other software. MS Office

ring a bell? They just LOST a lawsuit for what? Yep, for AGAIN stealing

someone else's technology and incorporating it into theirs.. LOL

Everyone act surprised!



"Oops!"

 

[Alias]

Muad'Dib wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>> On 4/14/2010 3:14 AM, Muad'Dib wrote:

>>> Gordon wrote:

>>>>

>>>> "Unbeliever" wrote in message

>>>> news:hpt3ge$n2l$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>

>>>> Cretin. My Ubuntu just works out of the box - no "typing command

>>>> lines" at all.

>>>> Why is it the MS shills have to resort to abuse, disinformation and

>>>> downright LIES rather than coherent argument? Because they HAVE no

>>>> coherent argument.

>>>

>>> Ain't that the truth. ..According to actual MS internal documents I have

>>> read myself that were released to the public as a result of ONE of the

>>> antitrust lawsuits, that IS their standard M.O. ..Disinformation, FUD,

>>> intimidation, lies, astroturfing, ETC. (All the despicable crap) No

>>> mystery there, as their methods have been exposed for all to see if they

>>> want to investigate. Uninformed people have no idea just how low MS will

>>> and does go to develop, promote themselves and products. Even their

>>> claims of user base numbers is 1/2 truths or out-and-out lies. There

>>> could be 200mil computers sitting on shelves around the world, but they

>>> dishonestly include those in their "sales" figures related to USERS

>>> using their product. And Blamer is SO proud, LOL, what a pig.

>>>

>>> No big surprise if one has educated them self as to how MS got started.

>>> (The early days) Lies, stealing technology, dirty dealings, cheating,

>>> sneaky underhanded crap, and so on, yet the Zealots and Shills ignore or

>>> flatly deny the TRUTH. (LOL, Standard MO) BUT, the INFORMED know jolly

>>> well better, so the Shills/Zealots can cackle all they want, but it's

>>> pretty hard to deny what is written in black and white. ..Try as they

>>> will to deny..

>>>

>>> G'day

>>

>> You mean like how L.T. reversed engineered unix to make linux? Is that

>> the kind of stealing, cheating and lying you're referring to?

>> Oops!

>

> 2007:

>

> "In the United States, SCO's Linux/Unix litigation has been stalled out

> while the company's bankruptcy trial is being dealt with. In Germany,

> however, several court cases have found SCO Group GmbH, SCO's Germany

> branch, guilty of lying about Linux containing stolen Unix code."

>

> They were found guilty of LYING, get it? Not merely accusing but

> flat-out LYING..

>

> NOVELL owns Unix yet they have no problem with Linux, instead they

> EMBRACE Linux and have a Distro of their own.

>

> It is a Unix LIKE OS, nothing more. Furthermore, L.T. hasn't spent a

> lifetime with disinformation, FUD, intimidation, lies, astroturfing,

> stealing technology, dirty dealings, cheating, sneaky underhanded crap

> to promote his OS, unlike MS and its OS and other software. MS Office

> ring a bell? They just LOST a lawsuit for what? Yep, for AGAIN stealing

> someone else's technology and incorporating it into theirs.. LOL

> Everyone act surprised!

>

> "Oops!"

>



Frank will reply with only two things: lies and insults.



--

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[Frank]

On 4/17/2010 11:55 PM, Muad'Dib wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>> On 4/14/2010 3:14 AM, Muad'Dib wrote:

>>> Gordon wrote:

>>>>

>>>> "Unbeliever" wrote in message

>>>> news:hpt3ge$n2l$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>

>>>> Cretin. My Ubuntu just works out of the box - no "typing command

>>>> lines" at all.

>>>> Why is it the MS shills have to resort to abuse, disinformation and

>>>> downright LIES rather than coherent argument? Because they HAVE no

>>>> coherent argument.

>>>

>>> Ain't that the truth. ..According to actual MS internal documents I have

>>> read myself that were released to the public as a result of ONE of the

>>> antitrust lawsuits, that IS their standard M.O. ..Disinformation, FUD,

>>> intimidation, lies, astroturfing, ETC. (All the despicable crap) No

>>> mystery there, as their methods have been exposed for all to see if they

>>> want to investigate. Uninformed people have no idea just how low MS will

>>> and does go to develop, promote themselves and products. Even their

>>> claims of user base numbers is 1/2 truths or out-and-out lies. There

>>> could be 200mil computers sitting on shelves around the world, but they

>>> dishonestly include those in their "sales" figures related to USERS

>>> using their product. And Blamer is SO proud, LOL, what a pig.

>>>

>>> No big surprise if one has educated them self as to how MS got started.

>>> (The early days) Lies, stealing technology, dirty dealings, cheating,

>>> sneaky underhanded crap, and so on, yet the Zealots and Shills ignore or

>>> flatly deny the TRUTH. (LOL, Standard MO) BUT, the INFORMED know jolly

>>> well better, so the Shills/Zealots can cackle all they want, but it's

>>> pretty hard to deny what is written in black and white. ..Try as they

>>> will to deny..

>>>

>>> G'day

>>

>> You mean like how L.T. reversed engineered unix to make linux? Is that

>> the kind of stealing, cheating and lying you're referring to?

>> Oops!

>

> 2007:

>

> "In the United States, SCO's Linux/Unix litigation has been stalled out

> while the company's bankruptcy trial is being dealt with. In Germany,

> however, several court cases have found SCO Group GmbH, SCO's Germany

> branch, guilty of lying about Linux containing stolen Unix code."

>

> They were found guilty of LYING, get it? Not merely accusing but

> flat-out LYING..

>

> NOVELL owns Unix yet they have no problem with Linux, instead they

> EMBRACE Linux and have a Distro of their own.

>

> It is a Unix LIKE OS, nothing more. Furthermore, L.T. hasn't spent a

> lifetime with disinformation, FUD, intimidation, lies, astroturfing,

> stealing technology, dirty dealings, cheating, sneaky underhanded crap

> to promote his OS, unlike MS and its OS and other software. MS Office

> ring a bell? They just LOST a lawsuit for what? Yep, for AGAIN stealing

> someone else's technology and incorporating it into theirs.. LOL

> Everyone act surprised!

>

> "Oops!"

>

Hahaha...yeah...right...I've got some swamp land in Florida you might be

interested in...or maybe a bridge in Arizona?

Oops!...LOL!

 

[Frank]

On 4/18/2010 4:06 AM, Alias wrote:

> Muad'Dib wrote:

>> Frank wrote:

>>> On 4/14/2010 3:14 AM, Muad'Dib wrote:

>>>> Gordon wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> "Unbeliever" wrote in message

>>>>> news:hpt3ge$n2l$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>>

>>>>> Cretin. My Ubuntu just works out of the box - no "typing command

>>>>> lines" at all.

>>>>> Why is it the MS shills have to resort to abuse, disinformation and

>>>>> downright LIES rather than coherent argument? Because they HAVE no

>>>>> coherent argument.

>>>>

>>>> Ain't that the truth. ..According to actual MS internal documents I

>>>> have

>>>> read myself that were released to the public as a result of ONE of the

>>>> antitrust lawsuits, that IS their standard M.O. ..Disinformation, FUD,

>>>> intimidation, lies, astroturfing, ETC. (All the despicable crap) No

>>>> mystery there, as their methods have been exposed for all to see if

>>>> they

>>>> want to investigate. Uninformed people have no idea just how low MS

>>>> will

>>>> and does go to develop, promote themselves and products. Even their

>>>> claims of user base numbers is 1/2 truths or out-and-out lies. There

>>>> could be 200mil computers sitting on shelves around the world, but they

>>>> dishonestly include those in their "sales" figures related to USERS

>>>> using their product. And Blamer is SO proud, LOL, what a pig.

>>>>

>>>> No big surprise if one has educated them self as to how MS got started.

>>>> (The early days) Lies, stealing technology, dirty dealings, cheating,

>>>> sneaky underhanded crap, and so on, yet the Zealots and Shills

>>>> ignore or

>>>> flatly deny the TRUTH. (LOL, Standard MO) BUT, the INFORMED know jolly

>>>> well better, so the Shills/Zealots can cackle all they want, but it's

>>>> pretty hard to deny what is written in black and white. ..Try as they

>>>> will to deny..

>>>>

>>>> G'day

>>>

>>> You mean like how L.T. reversed engineered unix to make linux? Is that

>>> the kind of stealing, cheating and lying you're referring to?

>>> Oops!

>>

>> 2007:

>>

>> "In the United States, SCO's Linux/Unix litigation has been stalled out

>> while the company's bankruptcy trial is being dealt with. In Germany,

>> however, several court cases have found SCO Group GmbH, SCO's Germany

>> branch, guilty of lying about Linux containing stolen Unix code."

>>

>> They were found guilty of LYING, get it? Not merely accusing but

>> flat-out LYING..

>>

>> NOVELL owns Unix yet they have no problem with Linux, instead they

>> EMBRACE Linux and have a Distro of their own.

>>

>> It is a Unix LIKE OS, nothing more. Furthermore, L.T. hasn't spent a

>> lifetime with disinformation, FUD, intimidation, lies, astroturfing,

>> stealing technology, dirty dealings, cheating, sneaky underhanded crap

>> to promote his OS, unlike MS and its OS and other software. MS Office

>> ring a bell? They just LOST a lawsuit for what? Yep, for AGAIN stealing

>> someone else's technology and incorporating it into theirs.. LOL

>> Everyone act surprised!

>>

>> "Oops!"

>>

>

> Frank will reply with only two things: lies and insults.

>

Projecting again sheep-fucker? You've been projecting a lot of late. Why

is that? Been caught lying of late...as usual?