How can Microsoft be proud to market this drivel !

[Alias]

Jeff wrote:
>
> "Mr. Happy" <mrhappy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1183784584.582295@netadmin1.interbaun.net...
>> Jeff wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> What I was disputing is your argument that because there are more
>>>> Windows
>>>> boxes, there are more Windows viruses and malware than there are for
>>>> Linux. I say it's the difference in the architecture of each, not the
>>>> quantity of boxes out there. Get it now?
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> Let's say for example I am someone wanting to write a virus to infect as
>>> many computers as possible. I'm going to target windows computers
>>> because
>>> there's FAR more of them than there are linux boxes... Now do you get
>>> it...
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>
>> You're going to target Windows because your virus will have a much much
>> easier time to do what viruses need to do, propagate.
>
> Because out of the first 100 computers it runs into 98 of them are going
> to be Windows boxes.

Not relevant.

>
>> They can do it easily in a Windows environment, but find it very
>> difficult in a Linux
>> environment. To understand why, you'll need to understand how Linux is a
>> true multiuser operating system and at its core isolates user spaces from
>> one another and from the kernel space. A virus attacking a Linux box will
>> at most cause damage to files owned by that user. Hence, it cannot
>> propagate. Hence, it's ability to be a "virus" is short lived.
>
> The average user today makes themselves administrators or logon as root
> (Linux equivalent). Even if they aren't they are more than willing to
> type that root password in when it asks them for it when installing
> software not thinking they might be installing something the don't
> want.... This is how most virus's propogate.
>
> NT seperated the user and kernel space back in what 1993?
>
>
> It is still plain stupid not to protect yourself and others buy not
> running an a/v solution whether your running windows or linux.
>
> Jeff

Installing something unknown in any OS is stupid. The problem is that
Windows can receive drive by malware downloads with no user input and
Linux cannot.

Alias

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Adam Albright wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:27:06 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mr. Happy wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your well-considered retort. I must assume, that you
>>>>>>>> disagree
>>>>>>>> with each of the statements I made? I should learn to not argue
>>>>>>>> with you,
>>>>>>>> as you are so good at tearing the bits apart with your indepth and
>>>>>>>> thoughtful analysis. You obviously are a great debater. Trouble
>>>>>>>> is, your
>>>>>>>> kind of debating skills is what one would find in a primary
>>>>>>>> school. You
>>>>>>>> have graduated from primary school, haven't you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shake Hands With,
>>>>>>>> Mr. Happy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's put it this way, you didn't pass marketing 101.
>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nobody forgot your claimed marketing experience... Frank says he runs
>>>>>> some mom and pop "marketing" company off his kitchen table. Probably
>>>>>> some MLM rip off or chain letter scam.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROTFLMAO!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, he sells a book called "Insult of the Day".
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're living in a constant state of denial.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A lie.
>>>
>>>> Every post of yours is an insult fo one type or another.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A lie.
>>>
>>>> Everybody in this ng has complained to you about your demeanor, name
>>>> calling an insultingly personal labeling
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Another lie.
>>>
>>>> (remember what you wrote about me the other day...or did you forget?).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh, so you can only dish it out but can't take it, eh?
>>>
>>>> I suggest you shut your stupid insulting mouth once and for all and
>>>> stop making a fool out of yourself in public.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Your suggestions are not accepted.
>>>
>>>> But then again, I don't think you have the intelligence to know when
>>>> to stop as you've already demonstrated.
>>>> Wise up!
>>>> You're starting to get into the danger zone.
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Danger zone"? What's that?
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>>
>> hahaha...well, you've just proved exactly what I predicted.
>
>
> Yeah, that you're a lying and name calling slob.
>
> Alias

Buzz...did it again?
Damn you're predictable.
And you're a real loser!
Frank

 

[Alias]

Jeff wrote:
>
>
>> True in the Windows world. In the Linux world, it isn't that easy to just
>> pickup an application from anywhere and install it. A repository, like
>> Ubuntu's, will have over 25,500 software packages, and that is where the
>> typical Linux user will get his/her software. He/she will not be
>> picking up
>> raw source code files and trying to compile them and install the
>> binaries.
>>
>
> Probably because most of the software floating around in cyberspace is
> written for
> Windows since it is by far the most widely adopted at the current time.

Something written for Linux that carries an evil payload will not make
it into the repositories. Your premise that there are more Windows boxes
around is totally not relevant and rapidly reversing itself. If someone
only installs using approved repositories, they have no reason to fear
malware with Linux.

Alias

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

>
> Something written for Linux that carries an evil payload will not make
> it into the repositories. Your premise that there are more Windows boxes
> around is totally not relevant and rapidly reversing itself.

You are nothing but a lying sack of sh*t!
Could you possible make a bigger fool out of yourself or mislead others
anymore than you already have?

If someone
> only installs using approved repositories, they have no reason to fear
> malware with Linux.

Nor from Vista. Jacka*s! At one point, the user(s) Vista or linux has to
do something to allow unwanted access to their computer. Malware does
not simply get into any computer all by itself.
You're so full misleading lies as to be unbelievable!
You think anyone in this ng any longer believes anything you say?
Grow the fu*k up you stupid moron!
BTW, that's and insult...lol!
Frank

 

[Stephan Rose]

On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:22:17 -0600, Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

> If it is the same people in both groups, it may be a double standard.
> However if the people are different, there is no double standard at
> all.
> However some may choose to omit that fact in their zeal to find a non
> existent problem with Windows.
>
> Exactly who and where are those "non-windows OS' people like to blame
> the OS"?
> Are they knowledgeable users or are like some of those that come here
> with no understanding of the source for drivers?

I don't exactly keep a list of people and their locations. From my
experience though, it's a mix of both knowledgeable and novice users.

What I find funny is when someone bashes Linux for poor hardware support
but then defend Vista by saying it is entirely the Manufacturer's
responsibility.

Personally I actually give Linux more slack than I give Vista in the
hardware support department. Vista has a multi-billion dollar company
backing it. Linux doesn't. For that simple reason, I actually would
expect Vista to just work with any hardware I throw at it.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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[Stephan Rose]

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 17:06:37 -0700, Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:
>
>>
>> Something written for Linux that carries an evil payload will not make
>> it into the repositories. Your premise that there are more Windows boxes
>> around is totally not relevant and rapidly reversing itself.
>
> You are nothing but a lying sack of sh*t!
> Could you possible make a bigger fool out of yourself or mislead others
> anymore than you already have?
>
> If someone
>> only installs using approved repositories, they have no reason to fear
>> malware with Linux.
>
> Nor from Vista. Jacka*s! At one point, the user(s) Vista or linux has to
> do something to allow unwanted access to their computer. Malware does
> not simply get into any computer all by itself.

Actually frank, it can. Maybe not on a single non-wireless home PC but in
the wireless world? That's a whole different story.

But take my co-workers PC that I cleaned out recently and installed Ubuntu
on for example. When he brought it to me, it had 60 concurrently running
malware processes! YES! I am NOT KIDDING, I actually counted them by hand
staring at the task manager in complete disbelief.

CPU Usage never dropped below 80% on it and the HDD light was brightly
lit. The killer thing was is that he didn't even know anything was "wrong"
with his machine. He thought this was normal. He only brought it to my
attention because he occasionally kept getting a Virus warning from norton
anti virus and didn't know what to do about it.

Boot-up time for the machine was about 10-15 minutes.

So anyway...

Now take that computer, which was a notebook, add a wireless card to it
(it didn't come with one, older model), and walk into any unprotected
wireless network with it which there are plenty of in existence, even in
the corporate world. Also plenty of internet cafes and similar have
unprotected networks to provide internet access to their customers.

It would likely not take more than a few minutes for this machine to start
contacting and infecting every other windows machine it can find on the
network.

That's how crap like this can spread without user intervention,
particularly in dense residential areas with overlapping unprotected
networks. Stuff like this can just go hop from network, to network, to
network.

That's why this stuff spreads so fast and it such a huge problem.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>>
>> Something written for Linux that carries an evil payload will not make
>> it into the repositories. Your premise that there are more Windows
>> boxes around is totally not relevant and rapidly reversing itself.
>
> You are nothing but a lying sack of sh*t!

It's the truth. Live with it.

> Could you possible make a bigger fool out of yourself or mislead others
> anymore than you already have?

Speak for yourself. Oh, wait, you *are*.

>
> If someone
>> only installs using approved repositories, they have no reason to fear
>> malware with Linux.
>
> Nor from Vista.

False.

> Jacka*s! At one point, the user(s) Vista or linux has to
> do something to allow unwanted access to their computer. Malware does
> not simply get into any computer all by itself.

Really? Read this and eat your words:

http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9026323&intsrc=hm_list

You might also want to educate yourself on wireless networks by reading
Stephen's post.

> You're so full misleading lies as to be unbelievable!
> You think anyone in this ng any longer believes anything you say?
> Grow the fu*k up you stupid moron!
> BTW, that's and insult...lol!
> Frank

I know that your "arguments" are mere insults. That's obvious.

Alias

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Something written for Linux that carries an evil payload will not
>>> make it into the repositories. Your premise that there are more
>>> Windows boxes around is totally not relevant and rapidly reversing
>>> itself.
>>
>>
>> You are nothing but a lying sack of sh*t!
>
>
> It's the truth. Live with it.
>
>> Could you possible make a bigger fool out of yourself or mislead
>> others anymore than you already have?
>
>
> Speak for yourself. Oh, wait, you *are*.
>
>>
>> If someone
>>
>>> only installs using approved repositories, they have no reason to
>>> fear malware with Linux.
>>
>>
>> Nor from Vista.
>
>
> False.
>
>> Jacka*s! At one point, the user(s) Vista or linux has to do something
>> to allow unwanted access to their computer. Malware does not simply
>> get into any computer all by itself.
>
>
> Really? Read this and eat your words:
>
> http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9026323&intsrc=hm_list
>
>
> You might also want to educate yourself on wireless networks by reading
> Stephen's post.
>
>> You're so full misleading lies as to be unbelievable!
>> You think anyone in this ng any longer believes anything you say?
>> Grow the fu*k up you stupid moron!
>> BTW, that's and insult...lol!
>> Frank
>
>
> I know that your "arguments" are mere insults. That's obvious.
>
> Alias

Hey a*shole, we're not talking wireless.
Read the post you stupid moron!
Frank

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Something written for Linux that carries an evil payload will not
>>> make it into the repositories. Your premise that there are more
>>> Windows boxes around is totally not relevant and rapidly reversing
>>> itself.
>>
>>
>> You are nothing but a lying sack of sh*t!
>
>
> It's the truth. Live with it.
>
>> Could you possible make a bigger fool out of yourself or mislead
>> others anymore than you already have?
>
>
> Speak for yourself. Oh, wait, you *are*.
>
>>
>> If someone
>>
>>> only installs using approved repositories, they have no reason to
>>> fear malware with Linux.
>>
>>
>> Nor from Vista.
>
>
> False.
>
>> Jacka*s! At one point, the user(s) Vista or linux has to do something
>> to allow unwanted access to their computer. Malware does not simply
>> get into any computer all by itself.
>
>
> Really? Read this and eat your words:
>
> http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9026323&intsrc=hm_list
>
>
> You might also want to educate yourself on wireless networks by reading
> Stephen's post.
>
>> You're so full misleading lies as to be unbelievable!
>> You think anyone in this ng any longer believes anything you say?
>> Grow the fu*k up you stupid moron!
>> BTW, that's and insult...lol!
>> Frank
>
>
> I know that your "arguments" are mere insults. That's obvious.
>
> Alias

Stop posting the same sh*T! And oh, READ THE DAMN ARTICLE FOOL!
Frank

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Something written for Linux that carries an evil payload will not
>>> make it into the repositories. Your premise that there are more
>>> Windows boxes around is totally not relevant and rapidly reversing
>>> itself.
>>
>>
>> You are nothing but a lying sack of sh*t!
>
>
> It's the truth. Live with it.
>
>> Could you possible make a bigger fool out of yourself or mislead
>> others anymore than you already have?
>
>
> Speak for yourself. Oh, wait, you *are*.
>
>>
>> If someone
>>
>>> only installs using approved repositories, they have no reason to
>>> fear malware with Linux.
>>
>>
>> Nor from Vista.
>
>
> False.
>
>> Jacka*s! At one point, the user(s) Vista or linux has to do something
>> to allow unwanted access to their computer. Malware does not simply
>> get into any computer all by itself.
>
>
> Really? Read this and eat your words:
>
> http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9026323&intsrc=hm_list
>
>
> You might also want to educate yourself on wireless networks by reading
> Stephen's post.
>
>> You're so full misleading lies as to be unbelievable!
>> You think anyone in this ng any longer believes anything you say?
>> Grow the fu*k up you stupid moron!
>> BTW, that's and insult...lol!
>> Frank
>
>
> I know that your "arguments" are mere insults. That's obvious.
>
> Alias

One other thing you simple minded moron...the subject here is
VISTA...got it...VISTA!!!
Now prove to me where Vista boxes have gotten infected without the user
doing anything...wired or wireless.
Well pea brain, we're waiting...!
Frank

 

[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Something written for Linux that carries an evil payload will not
>>>> make it into the repositories. Your premise that there are more
>>>> Windows boxes around is totally not relevant and rapidly reversing
>>>> itself.
>>>
>>>
>>> You are nothing but a lying sack of sh*t!
>>
>>
>> It's the truth. Live with it.
>>
>>> Could you possible make a bigger fool out of yourself or mislead
>>> others anymore than you already have?
>>
>>
>> Speak for yourself. Oh, wait, you *are*.
>>
>>>
>>> If someone
>>>
>>>> only installs using approved repositories, they have no reason to
>>>> fear malware with Linux.
>>>
>>>
>>> Nor from Vista.
>>
>>
>> False.
>>
>>> Jacka*s! At one point, the user(s) Vista or linux has to do something
>>> to allow unwanted access to their computer. Malware does not simply
>>> get into any computer all by itself.
>>
>>
>> Really? Read this and eat your words:
>>
>> http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9026323&intsrc=hm_list
>>
>>
>> You might also want to educate yourself on wireless networks by
>> reading Stephen's post.
>>
>>> You're so full misleading lies as to be unbelievable!
>>> You think anyone in this ng any longer believes anything you say?
>>> Grow the fu*k up you stupid moron!
>>> BTW, that's and insult...lol!
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> I know that your "arguments" are mere insults. That's obvious.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Hey a*shole,

Charming. Did you learn this bedside manner from your mommy or daddy?

> we're not talking wireless.

"We". Schizophrenia problems?

Not wireless:
http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9026323&intsrc=hm_list



> Read the post you stupid moron!
> Frank

Reading your posts is like reading the wall in a toilet.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Something written for Linux that carries an evil payload will not
>>>> make it into the repositories. Your premise that there are more
>>>> Windows boxes around is totally not relevant and rapidly reversing
>>>> itself.
>>>
>>>
>>> You are nothing but a lying sack of sh*t!
>>
>>
>> It's the truth. Live with it.
>>
>>> Could you possible make a bigger fool out of yourself or mislead
>>> others anymore than you already have?
>>
>>
>> Speak for yourself. Oh, wait, you *are*.
>>
>>>
>>> If someone
>>>
>>>> only installs using approved repositories, they have no reason to
>>>> fear malware with Linux.
>>>
>>>
>>> Nor from Vista.
>>
>>
>> False.
>>
>>> Jacka*s! At one point, the user(s) Vista or linux has to do something
>>> to allow unwanted access to their computer. Malware does not simply
>>> get into any computer all by itself.
>>
>>
>> Really? Read this and eat your words:
>>
>> http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9026323&intsrc=hm_list
>>
>>
>> You might also want to educate yourself on wireless networks by
>> reading Stephen's post.
>>
>>> You're so full misleading lies as to be unbelievable!
>>> You think anyone in this ng any longer believes anything you say?
>>> Grow the fu*k up you stupid moron!
>>> BTW, that's and insult...lol!
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> I know that your "arguments" are mere insults. That's obvious.
>>
>> Alias
>
> One other thing you simple minded moron...

Charming.

> the subject here is
> VISTA...got it...VISTA!!!

Yeah, that carries its own payload of malware in the form of DRM.

> Now prove to me where Vista boxes have gotten infected without the user
> doing anything...wired or wireless.
> Well pea brain, we're waiting...!

Are your toilet inspired insults really necessary?

> Frank

http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Anatomy-of-a-Windows-Vista-Web-Attack-56251.shtml

http://blog.syracuse.com/technofile/2007/05/10_of_all_web_sites_infect_vis.html

http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/08/04/HNvistaviruses_1.html

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/103850/microsoft-mcafee-fail-to-spot-vista-viruses.html

http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/

Try Google if you want more.

Alias

 

[Frank]

Stephan Rose wrote:

> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 17:06:37 -0700, Frank wrote:
>
>
>>Alias wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Something written for Linux that carries an evil payload will not make
>>>it into the repositories. Your premise that there are more Windows boxes
>>>around is totally not relevant and rapidly reversing itself.
>>
>>You are nothing but a lying sack of sh*t!
>>Could you possible make a bigger fool out of yourself or mislead others
>>anymore than you already have?
>>
>> If someone
>>
>>>only installs using approved repositories, they have no reason to fear
>>>malware with Linux.
>>
>>Nor from Vista. Jacka*s! At one point, the user(s) Vista or linux has to
>>do something to allow unwanted access to their computer. Malware does
>>not simply get into any computer all by itself.
>
>
> Actually frank, it can. Maybe not on a single non-wireless home PC but in
> the wireless world? That's a whole different story.
>
> But take my co-workers PC that I cleaned out recently and installed Ubuntu
> on for example. When he brought it to me, it had 60 concurrently running
> malware processes! YES! I am NOT KIDDING, I actually counted them by hand
> staring at the task manager in complete disbelief.
>
> CPU Usage never dropped below 80% on it and the HDD light was brightly
> lit. The killer thing was is that he didn't even know anything was "wrong"
> with his machine. He thought this was normal. He only brought it to my
> attention because he occasionally kept getting a Virus warning from norton
> anti virus and didn't know what to do about it.
>
> Boot-up time for the machine was about 10-15 minutes.
>
> So anyway...
>
> Now take that computer, which was a notebook, add a wireless card to it
> (it didn't come with one, older model), and walk into any unprotected
> wireless network with it which there are plenty of in existence, even in
> the corporate world. Also plenty of internet cafes and similar have
> unprotected networks to provide internet access to their customers.
>
> It would likely not take more than a few minutes for this machine to start
> contacting and infecting every other windows machine it can find on the
> network.
>
> That's how crap like this can spread without user intervention,
> particularly in dense residential areas with overlapping unprotected
> networks. Stuff like this can just go hop from network, to network, to
> network.
>
> That's why this stuff spreads so fast and it such a huge problem.
>

Stephen, we're talking about Vista. Did he have Vista running on his
computer that you replaced with Ubuntu?
Frank

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Something written for Linux that carries an evil payload will not
>>>>> make it into the repositories. Your premise that there are more
>>>>> Windows boxes around is totally not relevant and rapidly reversing
>>>>> itself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are nothing but a lying sack of sh*t!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's the truth. Live with it.
>>>
>>>> Could you possible make a bigger fool out of yourself or mislead
>>>> others anymore than you already have?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Speak for yourself. Oh, wait, you *are*.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If someone
>>>>
>>>>> only installs using approved repositories, they have no reason to
>>>>> fear malware with Linux.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nor from Vista.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> False.
>>>
>>>> Jacka*s! At one point, the user(s) Vista or linux has to do
>>>> something to allow unwanted access to their computer. Malware does
>>>> not simply get into any computer all by itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Really? Read this and eat your words:
>>>
>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9026323&intsrc=hm_list
>>>
>>>
>>> You might also want to educate yourself on wireless networks by
>>> reading Stephen's post.
>>>
>>>> You're so full misleading lies as to be unbelievable!
>>>> You think anyone in this ng any longer believes anything you say?
>>>> Grow the fu*k up you stupid moron!
>>>> BTW, that's and insult...lol!
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know that your "arguments" are mere insults. That's obvious.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> Hey a*shole,
>
>
> Charming. Did you learn this bedside manner from your mommy or daddy?
>
>> we're not talking wireless.
>
>
> "We". Schizophrenia problems?
>
> Not wireless:
> http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9026323&intsrc=hm_list
>
>
>
>> Read the post you stupid moron!
>> Frank
>
>
> Reading your posts is like reading the wall in a toilet.
>
> Alias


Hey loser...hey idiot...hello...hello...read the post and the links.
You're beyond stupid...a real loser..."Attackers armed with an exploit
tool kit have launched massive attacks in Europe from a network of at
least 10,000 hacked Web sites, with infections spreading worldwide,
several security companies warned today."

Now tell me about all of the Vista boxes infected?
Well...we're waiting.
Loser.
Frank

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Something written for Linux that carries an evil payload will not
>>>>> make it into the repositories. Your premise that there are more
>>>>> Windows boxes around is totally not relevant and rapidly reversing
>>>>> itself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are nothing but a lying sack of sh*t!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's the truth. Live with it.
>>>
>>>> Could you possible make a bigger fool out of yourself or mislead
>>>> others anymore than you already have?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Speak for yourself. Oh, wait, you *are*.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If someone
>>>>
>>>>> only installs using approved repositories, they have no reason to
>>>>> fear malware with Linux.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nor from Vista.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> False.
>>>
>>>> Jacka*s! At one point, the user(s) Vista or linux has to do
>>>> something to allow unwanted access to their computer. Malware does
>>>> not simply get into any computer all by itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Really? Read this and eat your words:
>>>
>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9026323&intsrc=hm_list
>>>
>>>
>>> You might also want to educate yourself on wireless networks by
>>> reading Stephen's post.
>>>
>>>> You're so full misleading lies as to be unbelievable!
>>>> You think anyone in this ng any longer believes anything you say?
>>>> Grow the fu*k up you stupid moron!
>>>> BTW, that's and insult...lol!
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know that your "arguments" are mere insults. That's obvious.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> One other thing you simple minded moron...
>
>
> Charming.
>
>> the subject here is VISTA...got it...VISTA!!!
>
>
> Yeah, that carries its own payload of malware in the form of DRM.
>
>> Now prove to me where Vista boxes have gotten infected without the
>> user doing anything...wired or wireless.
>> Well pea brain, we're waiting...!
>
>
> Are your toilet inspired insults really necessary?
>
>> Frank
>
>
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Anatomy-of-a-Windows-Vista-Web-Attack-56251.shtml
>
>
> http://blog.syracuse.com/technofile/2007/05/10_of_all_web_sites_infect_vis.html
>
>
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/08/04/HNvistaviruses_1.html
>
> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/103850/microsoft-mcafee-fail-to-spot-vista-viruses.html
>
>
> http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/
>
> Try Google if you want more.
>
> Alias


Are you stupid or what?
Vista...infected Vista boxes...where are they?
Not theoretical or possible cases but where are the infected Vista boxes?
Well...we're waiting.
Frank

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

And neither company have any control over 3rd party manufacturers.

"someone bashes Linux for poor hardware support"
What I see is others saying Linux does not support their hardware.
That is far from bashing Linux.
Those that simply bash the operating system display their own lack of
knowledge.
But if their hardware is not supported that can be a reason for them
to avoid Linux.
That may be a good reason to go to any operating system including
Windows Vista.
People need to verify their essential hardware works with the desired
operating system before making the change

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Stephan Rose" <nospam.noway@screwspammers.com> wrote in message
news:EYGdneh8YIEqtQ_bnZ2dnUVZ8rOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> I don't exactly keep a list of people and their locations. From my
> experience though, it's a mix of both knowledgeable and novice
> users.
>
> What I find funny is when someone bashes Linux for poor hardware
> support
> but then defend Vista by saying it is entirely the Manufacturer's
> responsibility.
>
> Personally I actually give Linux more slack than I give Vista in the
> hardware support department. Vista has a multi-billion dollar
> company
> backing it. Linux doesn't. For that simple reason, I actually would
> expect Vista to just work with any hardware I throw at it.
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> å›ã®ã“ã¨æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯
> å›ã®ã“ã¨å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰

 

[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something written for Linux that carries an evil payload will not
>>>>>> make it into the repositories. Your premise that there are more
>>>>>> Windows boxes around is totally not relevant and rapidly reversing
>>>>>> itself.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You are nothing but a lying sack of sh*t!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's the truth. Live with it.
>>>>
>>>>> Could you possible make a bigger fool out of yourself or mislead
>>>>> others anymore than you already have?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Speak for yourself. Oh, wait, you *are*.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If someone
>>>>>
>>>>>> only installs using approved repositories, they have no reason to
>>>>>> fear malware with Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nor from Vista.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> False.
>>>>
>>>>> Jacka*s! At one point, the user(s) Vista or linux has to do
>>>>> something to allow unwanted access to their computer. Malware does
>>>>> not simply get into any computer all by itself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Really? Read this and eat your words:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9026323&intsrc=hm_list
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You might also want to educate yourself on wireless networks by
>>>> reading Stephen's post.
>>>>
>>>>> You're so full misleading lies as to be unbelievable!
>>>>> You think anyone in this ng any longer believes anything you say?
>>>>> Grow the fu*k up you stupid moron!
>>>>> BTW, that's and insult...lol!
>>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know that your "arguments" are mere insults. That's obvious.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> One other thing you simple minded moron...
>>
>>
>> Charming.
>>
>>> the subject here is VISTA...got it...VISTA!!!
>>
>>
>> Yeah, that carries its own payload of malware in the form of DRM.
>>
>>> Now prove to me where Vista boxes have gotten infected without the
>>> user doing anything...wired or wireless.
>>> Well pea brain, we're waiting...!
>>
>>
>> Are your toilet inspired insults really necessary?
>>
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Anatomy-of-a-Windows-Vista-Web-Attack-56251.shtml
>>
>>
>> http://blog.syracuse.com/technofile/2007/05/10_of_all_web_sites_infect_vis.html
>>
>>
>> http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/08/04/HNvistaviruses_1.html
>>
>> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/103850/microsoft-mcafee-fail-to-spot-vista-viruses.html
>>
>>
>> http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/
>>
>> Try Google if you want more.
>>
>> Alias
>
>
> Are you stupid or what?
> Vista...infected Vista boxes...where are they?
> Not theoretical or possible cases but where are the infected Vista boxes?
> Well...we're waiting.
> Frank

Vista comes infected by default. "We"? Since when do you speak for others?

Alias

 

[Julian]

"Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
news:eBHulZjwHHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Something written for Linux that carries an evil payload will not make
>>>> it into the repositories. Your premise that there are more Windows
>>>> boxes around is totally not relevant and rapidly reversing itself.
>>>
>>>
>>> You are nothing but a lying sack of sh*t!
>>
>>
>> It's the truth. Live with it.
>>
>>> Could you possible make a bigger fool out of yourself or mislead others
>>> anymore than you already have?
>>
>>
>> Speak for yourself. Oh, wait, you *are*.
>>
>>>
>>> If someone
>>>
>>>> only installs using approved repositories, they have no reason to fear
>>>> malware with Linux.
>>>
>>>
>>> Nor from Vista.
>>
>>
>> False.
>>
>>> Jacka*s! At one point, the user(s) Vista or linux has to do something to
>>> allow unwanted access to their computer. Malware does not simply get
>>> into any computer all by itself.
>>
>>
>> Really? Read this and eat your words:
>>
>> http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9026323&intsrc=hm_list
>> You might also want to educate yourself on wireless networks by reading
>> Stephen's post.
>>
>>> You're so full misleading lies as to be unbelievable!
>>> You think anyone in this ng any longer believes anything you say?
>>> Grow the fu*k up you stupid moron!
>>> BTW, that's and insult...lol!
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> I know that your "arguments" are mere insults. That's obvious.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Hey a*shole, we're not talking wireless.
> Read the post you stupid moron!
> Frank

Frank... you're dealing with someone who is mentally unstable
and prone to making threats of violence and attempts to get
those who disagree with him sacked from their work places.

 

[Alias]

Julian wrote:
>
>
> "Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
> news:eBHulZjwHHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Alias wrote:
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Something written for Linux that carries an evil payload will not
>>>>> make it into the repositories. Your premise that there are more
>>>>> Windows boxes around is totally not relevant and rapidly reversing
>>>>> itself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are nothing but a lying sack of sh*t!
>>>
>>>
>>> It's the truth. Live with it.
>>>
>>>> Could you possible make a bigger fool out of yourself or mislead
>>>> others anymore than you already have?
>>>
>>>
>>> Speak for yourself. Oh, wait, you *are*.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If someone
>>>>
>>>>> only installs using approved repositories, they have no reason to
>>>>> fear malware with Linux.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nor from Vista.
>>>
>>>
>>> False.
>>>
>>>> Jacka*s! At one point, the user(s) Vista or linux has to do
>>>> something to allow unwanted access to their computer. Malware does
>>>> not simply get into any computer all by itself.
>>>
>>>
>>> Really? Read this and eat your words:
>>>
>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9026323&intsrc=hm_list
>>> You might also want to educate yourself on wireless networks by
>>> reading Stephen's post.
>>>
>>>> You're so full misleading lies as to be unbelievable!
>>>> You think anyone in this ng any longer believes anything you say?
>>>> Grow the fu*k up you stupid moron!
>>>> BTW, that's and insult...lol!
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>> I know that your "arguments" are mere insults. That's obvious.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>> Hey a*shole, we're not talking wireless.
>> Read the post you stupid moron!
>> Frank
>
> Frank... you're dealing with someone who is mentally unstable
> and prone to making threats of violence and attempts to get
> those who disagree with him sacked from their work places.
>
>

More lies. If you post from your workplace and posting from your
workplace is forbidden there and you get sacked, whose fault is it, dear?

Alias

 

[Frank]

Julian wrote:
>
>
> "Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
> news:eBHulZjwHHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Something written for Linux that carries an evil payload will not
>>>>> make it into the repositories. Your premise that there are more
>>>>> Windows boxes around is totally not relevant and rapidly reversing
>>>>> itself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are nothing but a lying sack of sh*t!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's the truth. Live with it.
>>>
>>>> Could you possible make a bigger fool out of yourself or mislead
>>>> others anymore than you already have?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Speak for yourself. Oh, wait, you *are*.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If someone
>>>>
>>>>> only installs using approved repositories, they have no reason to
>>>>> fear malware with Linux.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nor from Vista.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> False.
>>>
>>>> Jacka*s! At one point, the user(s) Vista or linux has to do
>>>> something to allow unwanted access to their computer. Malware does
>>>> not simply get into any computer all by itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Really? Read this and eat your words:
>>>
>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9026323&intsrc=hm_list
>>> You might also want to educate yourself on wireless networks by
>>> reading Stephen's post.
>>>
>>>> You're so full misleading lies as to be unbelievable!
>>>> You think anyone in this ng any longer believes anything you say?
>>>> Grow the fu*k up you stupid moron!
>>>> BTW, that's and insult...lol!
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know that your "arguments" are mere insults. That's obvious.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> Hey a*shole, we're not talking wireless.
>> Read the post you stupid moron!
>> Frank
>
>
> Frank... you're dealing with someone who is mentally unstable
> and prone to making threats of violence and attempts to get
> those who disagree with him sacked from their work places.
>
>

Oh...you mean he's a real moron who also just happens to be an idiot?
You mean he's suffering from a Napoleonic complex and is really filled
with fear cause he couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag?
Is that what you mean?
Thanks.
Frank