How can Microsoft be proud to market this drivel !

A

Alias

Adam Albright wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 04:20:38 +0200, Alias
> <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>
>> Jeff wrote:
>>>> What I was disputing is your argument that because there are more
>>>> Windows boxes, there are more Windows viruses and malware than there
>>>> are for Linux. I say it's the difference in the architecture of each,
>>>> not the quantity of boxes out there. Get it now?
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>> Let's say for example I am someone wanting to write a virus to infect as
>>> many computers as possible. I'm going to target windows computers
>>> because there's FAR more of them than there are linux boxes... Now do
>>> you get it...
>>>
>>> Jeff

>> Besides the point.

>
> Actually that IS the point, but you're way too pigheaded to admit it.
>
> Windows is targeted because by far it is the most used operating
> system. If some nut case wants to waste his time to write a virus in
> only makes sense to write one that will infect the most machines.
> Those would be Windows boxes.
>
> Sure, Windows has more holes in it then a pound of thinly sliced Swiss
> cheese and perhaps because of it makes it somewhat easier to attack,
> but if Macs had the lion's share of the market or Linux did then they
> would be attacked the most simply because of their popularity. NO
> computer is immune to attack. Pretending otherwise is silly.
>


If what you say is true, and I doubt it, we can always rely on the likes
of Frank to stay with Windows. Don't think there are a lot of Franks
around? Bush's reelection proves there are.

That said, Linux, IMHO, is much more secure than Windows.

Alias
 
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Alias

Mr. Happy wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
>
>>> What I was disputing is your argument that because there are more Windows
>>> boxes, there are more Windows viruses and malware than there are for
>>> Linux. I say it's the difference in the architecture of each, not the
>>> quantity of boxes out there. Get it now?
>>>
>>> Alias

>> Let's say for example I am someone wanting to write a virus to infect as
>> many computers as possible. I'm going to target windows computers because
>> there's FAR more of them than there are linux boxes... Now do you get
>> it...
>>
>> Jeff

>
> You're going to target Windows because your virus will have a much much
> easier time to do what viruses need to do, propagate. They can do it easily
> in a Windows environment, but find it very difficult in a Linux
> environment. To understand why, you'll need to understand how Linux is a
> true multiuser operating system and at its core isolates user spaces from
> one another and from the kernel space. A virus attacking a Linux box will
> at most cause damage to files owned by that user. Hence, it cannot
> propagate. Hence, it's ability to be a "virus" is short lived.
>
> Shake Hands With,
> Mr. Happy


Thank you. Very well put.

Alias
 
S

Stephan Rose

On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:33:34 -0700, Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:
>
>> Jeff wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If it's not in the repository, no need to download or install it. If
>>>> you stupidly go out of your way to put crap on a Linux machine, of
>>>> course, it's possible!
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> Which would represent the majority of users out there...
>>>
>>> Jeff

>>
>>
>> Did you learn this supercilious attitude at Redmond? Users are becoming
>> more computer savvy. It's not 1998 anymore.
>>
>> Alias

>
> Yep, you got that one right!
> Linux is losing market share.
> Frank


I wouldn't quite us a blanket statement like that Frank. =)

There was a survey done here in Germany among software developers and
related IT companies. The results and trends were quite interesting. Now
granted, this is just specific to IT/Software Development but then again,
it is exactly those people who create the products for the market and
determine the users available choices. So to me, a gain in that area is a
pre-requisite before a gain in the general user area can ever occur.

Percentage of those who still consider windows important for development
dropped by 12 percent since 2006 down to 64.8 percent. Reasoning being an
increased use of Linux, which rose to about 12% and is expected to hit
about 18% by 2008. And yes, this takes Vista's release into account.

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Mr. Happy

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:
>> Jeff wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> I'm not being picky just stating a fact....
>>>>>
>>>>> I also don't see it as being "safer" just less likely to be attacked
>>>>> as there are far fewer linux boxes out there than winodws boxes...
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's the standard reason given but it's false.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> It is a FACT, there are far fewer linux boxes than windows boxes...
>>>
>>> Jeff

>>
>>
>> I wasn't disputing that. Course, how long this will last is up to MS'
>> "anti piracy" and "arrogance" departments which have gone a long way in
>> helping to promote Linux. I know I would have never switched if it
>> weren't for that and the built-in DRM.
>>
>> What I was disputing is your argument that because there are more
>> Windows boxes, there are more Windows viruses and malware than there are
>> for Linux. I say it's the difference in the architecture of each, not
>> the quantity of boxes out there. Get it now?
>>
>> Alias

>
> More lies from our resident linux lying troll.
> Since Vista came out (6-7) months ago, linux desktop % of market share
> has had a rather dramatic downturn (that's means they've lost market
> share!).


The question of "market share" doesn't come into play at all when it comes
to Linux. Linux is freely available for anyone that wants to download it.
It isn't part of the "market" (marketplace) for that very reason. This also
makes it impossible to assess how many desktops are running Linux. Linux
doesn't need to be activated or registered, so no figures available there.
Counting web hits from Linux boxes can't expose the reality either, as web
counters are focused on who wants to access particular content. Downloads,
hardly work either, as one can download one copy of a Linux distro, but go
on to install that one download on a multitude of computers. In short, we
have no idea how many Linux desktops are out there. What we do know, is
that it has been growing and with each passing year, new users are joining
the Linux fold. Enough must be doing it, that Microsoft has been concerned
by the trends and views Open Source as it's main challenge to its "market
share". :)

Shake Hands With,
Mr. Happy
 
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Mr. Happy

Jeff wrote:

>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:u2lPswCwHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Jeff wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If it's not in the repository, no need to download or install it. If
>>>> you stupidly go out of your way to put crap on a Linux machine, of
>>>> course, it's possible!
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> Which would represent the majority of users out there...
>>>
>>> Jeff

>>
>> Did you learn this supercilious attitude at Redmond? Users are becoming
>> more computer savvy. It's not 1998 anymore.
>>
>> Alias

>
> The computer has grown to the point it is no longer a specialty item but
> is
> now considered a commodity. Meaning that the majority of users are not
> the tech savvy people that was out there when the pc first started finding
> its
> way into the home. There is a huge percentage of the population that
> surf's the web a random finding programs online that they don't know who
> they are really downloading it from, they install it and start having
> problems.
>

True in the Windows world. In the Linux world, it isn't that easy to just
pickup an application from anywhere and install it. A repository, like
Ubuntu's, will have over 25,500 software packages, and that is where the
typical Linux user will get his/her software. He/she will not be picking up
raw source code files and trying to compile them and install the binaries.

> If everyone is growing so savvy as you think explain why the geek squad at
> best buy is doing so well....
>

Most of their income comes from cleaning Windows machines of malware.

> Jeff


Shake Hands With,
Mr. Happy
 
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Frank

Mr. Happy wrote:

>
>
> The question of "market share" doesn't come into play at all when it comes
> to Linux. Linux is freely available for anyone that wants to download it.
> It isn't part of the "market" (marketplace) for that very reason. This also
> makes it impossible to assess how many desktops are running Linux. Linux
> doesn't need to be activated or registered, so no figures available there.
> Counting web hits from Linux boxes can't expose the reality either, as web
> counters are focused on who wants to access particular content. Downloads,
> hardly work either, as one can download one copy of a Linux distro, but go
> on to install that one download on a multitude of computers. In short, we
> have no idea how many Linux desktops are out there. What we do know, is
> that it has been growing and with each passing year, new users are joining
> the Linux fold. Enough must be doing it, that Microsoft has been concerned
> by the trends and views Open Source as it's main challenge to its "market
> share". :)
>
> Shake Hands With,
> Mr. Happy
>
>
>
>
>
>


Great rationalization and convoluted dreamworld linux lovin thinking.
Or, as they say, "nice try but no cigar".
Frank
 
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Mr. Happy

Frank wrote:

> Mr. Happy wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> The question of "market share" doesn't come into play at all when it
>> comes to Linux. Linux is freely available for anyone that wants to
>> download it. It isn't part of the "market" (marketplace) for that very
>> reason. This also makes it impossible to assess how many desktops are
>> running Linux. Linux doesn't need to be activated or registered, so no
>> figures available there. Counting web hits from Linux boxes can't expose
>> the reality either, as web counters are focused on who wants to access
>> particular content. Downloads, hardly work either, as one can download
>> one copy of a Linux distro, but go on to install that one download on a
>> multitude of computers. In short, we have no idea how many Linux desktops
>> are out there. What we do know, is that it has been growing and with each
>> passing year, new users are joining the Linux fold. Enough must be doing
>> it, that Microsoft has been concerned by the trends and views Open Source
>> as it's main challenge to its "market share". :)
>>
>> Shake Hands With,
>> Mr. Happy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
> Great rationalization and convoluted dreamworld linux lovin thinking.
> Or, as they say, "nice try but no cigar".
> Frank


Thanks for your well-considered retort. I must assume, that you disagree
with each of the statements I made? I should learn to not argue with you,
as you are so good at tearing the bits apart with your indepth and
thoughtful analysis. You obviously are a great debater. Trouble is, your
kind of debating skills is what one would find in a primary school. You
have graduated from primary school, haven't you?

Shake Hands With,
Mr. Happy
 
A

Alias

Mr. Happy wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
>> Mr. Happy wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The question of "market share" doesn't come into play at all when it
>>> comes to Linux. Linux is freely available for anyone that wants to
>>> download it. It isn't part of the "market" (marketplace) for that very
>>> reason. This also makes it impossible to assess how many desktops are
>>> running Linux. Linux doesn't need to be activated or registered, so no
>>> figures available there. Counting web hits from Linux boxes can't expose
>>> the reality either, as web counters are focused on who wants to access
>>> particular content. Downloads, hardly work either, as one can download
>>> one copy of a Linux distro, but go on to install that one download on a
>>> multitude of computers. In short, we have no idea how many Linux desktops
>>> are out there. What we do know, is that it has been growing and with each
>>> passing year, new users are joining the Linux fold. Enough must be doing
>>> it, that Microsoft has been concerned by the trends and views Open Source
>>> as it's main challenge to its "market share". :)
>>>
>>> Shake Hands With,
>>> Mr. Happy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>> Great rationalization and convoluted dreamworld linux lovin thinking.
>> Or, as they say, "nice try but no cigar".
>> Frank

>
> Thanks for your well-considered retort. I must assume, that you disagree
> with each of the statements I made? I should learn to not argue with you,
> as you are so good at tearing the bits apart with your indepth and
> thoughtful analysis. You obviously are a great debater. Trouble is, your
> kind of debating skills is what one would find in a primary school. You
> have graduated from primary school, haven't you?
>
> Shake Hands With,
> Mr. Happy
>


He's a grade school drop out that has a mail order business in his
kitchen. The ONLY thing he is capable of his lying about you and
insulting you. When someone lies and insults him, however, he can't take
it and goes astral.

Alias
 
F

Frank

Mr. Happy wrote:

>
>
> Thanks for your well-considered retort. I must assume, that you disagree
> with each of the statements I made? I should learn to not argue with you,
> as you are so good at tearing the bits apart with your indepth and
> thoughtful analysis. You obviously are a great debater. Trouble is, your
> kind of debating skills is what one would find in a primary school. You
> have graduated from primary school, haven't you?
>
> Shake Hands With,
> Mr. Happy
>


Let's put it this way, you didn't pass marketing 101.
Frank
 
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Adam Albright

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:27:06 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:

>Mr. Happy wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your well-considered retort. I must assume, that you disagree
>> with each of the statements I made? I should learn to not argue with you,
>> as you are so good at tearing the bits apart with your indepth and
>> thoughtful analysis. You obviously are a great debater. Trouble is, your
>> kind of debating skills is what one would find in a primary school. You
>> have graduated from primary school, haven't you?
>>
>> Shake Hands With,
>> Mr. Happy
>>

>
>Let's put it this way, you didn't pass marketing 101.
>Frank


Nobody forgot your claimed marketing experience... Frank says he runs
some mom and pop "marketing" company off his kitchen table. Probably
some MLM rip off or chain letter scam.

ROTFLMAO!
 
A

Alias

Adam Albright wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:27:06 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:
>
>> Mr. Happy wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your well-considered retort. I must assume, that you disagree
>>> with each of the statements I made? I should learn to not argue with you,
>>> as you are so good at tearing the bits apart with your indepth and
>>> thoughtful analysis. You obviously are a great debater. Trouble is, your
>>> kind of debating skills is what one would find in a primary school. You
>>> have graduated from primary school, haven't you?
>>>
>>> Shake Hands With,
>>> Mr. Happy
>>>

>> Let's put it this way, you didn't pass marketing 101.
>> Frank

>
> Nobody forgot your claimed marketing experience... Frank says he runs
> some mom and pop "marketing" company off his kitchen table. Probably
> some MLM rip off or chain letter scam.
>
> ROTFLMAO!
>


No, he sells a book called "Insult of the Day".

Alias
 
F

Frank

Adam Albright wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:27:06 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:
>
>
>>Mr. Happy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Thanks for your well-considered retort. I must assume, that you disagree
>>>with each of the statements I made? I should learn to not argue with you,
>>>as you are so good at tearing the bits apart with your indepth and
>>>thoughtful analysis. You obviously are a great debater. Trouble is, your
>>>kind of debating skills is what one would find in a primary school. You
>>>have graduated from primary school, haven't you?
>>>
>>>Shake Hands With,
>>>Mr. Happy
>>>

>>
>>Let's put it this way, you didn't pass marketing 101.
>>Frank

>
>
> Nobody forgot your claimed marketing experience... Frank says he runs
> some mom and pop "marketing" company off his kitchen table. Probably
> some MLM rip off or chain letter scam.
>
> ROTFLMAO!
>


Drunk for the weekend as usual you pitiful stinking drunk!
Sober up for pete's sake!
Have you no pride?
Oh, I forgot, you're the weakest loser in this ng.
Pity.
Frank
 
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Frank

Alias wrote:

> Adam Albright wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:27:06 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:
>>
>>> Mr. Happy wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your well-considered retort. I must assume, that you
>>>> disagree
>>>> with each of the statements I made? I should learn to not argue with
>>>> you,
>>>> as you are so good at tearing the bits apart with your indepth and
>>>> thoughtful analysis. You obviously are a great debater. Trouble is,
>>>> your
>>>> kind of debating skills is what one would find in a primary school. You
>>>> have graduated from primary school, haven't you?
>>>>
>>>> Shake Hands With,
>>>> Mr. Happy
>>>>
>>> Let's put it this way, you didn't pass marketing 101.
>>> Frank

>>
>>
>> Nobody forgot your claimed marketing experience... Frank says he runs
>> some mom and pop "marketing" company off his kitchen table. Probably
>> some MLM rip off or chain letter scam.
>>
>> ROTFLMAO!
>>

>
> No, he sells a book called "Insult of the Day".
>
> Alias



You're living in a constant state of denial.
Every post of yours is an insult fo one type or another.
Everybody in this ng has complained to you about your demeanor, name
calling an insultingly personal labeling (remember what you wrote about
me the other day...or did you forget?).
I suggest you shut your stupid insulting mouth once and for all and stop
making a fool out of yourself in public.
But then again, I don't think you have the intelligence to know when to
stop as you've already demonstrated.
Wise up!
You're starting to get into the danger zone.
Frank
 
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Alias

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Adam Albright wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:27:06 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mr. Happy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your well-considered retort. I must assume, that you
>>>>> disagree
>>>>> with each of the statements I made? I should learn to not argue
>>>>> with you,
>>>>> as you are so good at tearing the bits apart with your indepth and
>>>>> thoughtful analysis. You obviously are a great debater. Trouble is,
>>>>> your
>>>>> kind of debating skills is what one would find in a primary school.
>>>>> You
>>>>> have graduated from primary school, haven't you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Shake Hands With,
>>>>> Mr. Happy
>>>>>
>>>> Let's put it this way, you didn't pass marketing 101.
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>> Nobody forgot your claimed marketing experience... Frank says he runs
>>> some mom and pop "marketing" company off his kitchen table. Probably
>>> some MLM rip off or chain letter scam.
>>>
>>> ROTFLMAO!
>>>

>>
>> No, he sells a book called "Insult of the Day".
>>
>> Alias

>
>
> You're living in a constant state of denial.
> Every post of yours is an insult fo one type or another.
> Everybody in this ng has complained to you about your demeanor, name
> calling an insultingly personal labeling (remember what you wrote about
> me the other day...or did you forget?).
> I suggest you shut your stupid insulting mouth once and for all and stop
> making a fool out of yourself in public.
> But then again, I don't think you have the intelligence to know when to
> stop as you've already demonstrated.
> Wise up!
> You're starting to get into the danger zone.
> Frank


Y-A-W-N

Alias
 
F

Frank

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Adam Albright wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:27:06 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mr. Happy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your well-considered retort. I must assume, that you
>>>>>> disagree
>>>>>> with each of the statements I made? I should learn to not argue
>>>>>> with you,
>>>>>> as you are so good at tearing the bits apart with your indepth and
>>>>>> thoughtful analysis. You obviously are a great debater. Trouble
>>>>>> is, your
>>>>>> kind of debating skills is what one would find in a primary
>>>>>> school. You
>>>>>> have graduated from primary school, haven't you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shake Hands With,
>>>>>> Mr. Happy
>>>>>>
>>>>> Let's put it this way, you didn't pass marketing 101.
>>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nobody forgot your claimed marketing experience... Frank says he runs
>>>> some mom and pop "marketing" company off his kitchen table. Probably
>>>> some MLM rip off or chain letter scam.
>>>>
>>>> ROTFLMAO!
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, he sells a book called "Insult of the Day".
>>>
>>> Alias

>>
>>
>>
>> You're living in a constant state of denial.
>> Every post of yours is an insult fo one type or another.
>> Everybody in this ng has complained to you about your demeanor, name
>> calling an insultingly personal labeling (remember what you wrote
>> about me the other day...or did you forget?).
>> I suggest you shut your stupid insulting mouth once and for all and
>> stop making a fool out of yourself in public.
>> But then again, I don't think you have the intelligence to know when
>> to stop as you've already demonstrated.
>> Wise up!
>> You're starting to get into the danger zone.
>> Frank

>
>
> Y-A-W-N
>
> Alias


Good answer...just be sure an keep both feet firmly in that out of
control mouth of yours.
Frank
 
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Alias

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Adam Albright wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:27:06 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mr. Happy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your well-considered retort. I must assume, that you
>>>>> disagree
>>>>> with each of the statements I made? I should learn to not argue
>>>>> with you,
>>>>> as you are so good at tearing the bits apart with your indepth and
>>>>> thoughtful analysis. You obviously are a great debater. Trouble is,
>>>>> your
>>>>> kind of debating skills is what one would find in a primary school.
>>>>> You
>>>>> have graduated from primary school, haven't you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Shake Hands With,
>>>>> Mr. Happy
>>>>>
>>>> Let's put it this way, you didn't pass marketing 101.
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>> Nobody forgot your claimed marketing experience... Frank says he runs
>>> some mom and pop "marketing" company off his kitchen table. Probably
>>> some MLM rip off or chain letter scam.
>>>
>>> ROTFLMAO!
>>>

>>
>> No, he sells a book called "Insult of the Day".
>>
>> Alias

>
>
> You're living in a constant state of denial.


A lie.

> Every post of yours is an insult fo one type or another.


A lie.

> Everybody in this ng has complained to you about your demeanor, name
> calling an insultingly personal labeling


Another lie.

> (remember what you wrote about
> me the other day...or did you forget?).


Oh, so you can only dish it out but can't take it, eh?

> I suggest you shut your stupid insulting mouth once and for all and stop
> making a fool out of yourself in public.


Your suggestions are not accepted.

> But then again, I don't think you have the intelligence to know when to
> stop as you've already demonstrated.
> Wise up!
> You're starting to get into the danger zone.
> Frank


"Danger zone"? What's that?

Alias
 
F

Frank

Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Adam Albright wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:27:06 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mr. Happy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your well-considered retort. I must assume, that you
>>>>>> disagree
>>>>>> with each of the statements I made? I should learn to not argue
>>>>>> with you,
>>>>>> as you are so good at tearing the bits apart with your indepth and
>>>>>> thoughtful analysis. You obviously are a great debater. Trouble
>>>>>> is, your
>>>>>> kind of debating skills is what one would find in a primary
>>>>>> school. You
>>>>>> have graduated from primary school, haven't you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shake Hands With,
>>>>>> Mr. Happy
>>>>>>
>>>>> Let's put it this way, you didn't pass marketing 101.
>>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nobody forgot your claimed marketing experience... Frank says he runs
>>>> some mom and pop "marketing" company off his kitchen table. Probably
>>>> some MLM rip off or chain letter scam.
>>>>
>>>> ROTFLMAO!
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, he sells a book called "Insult of the Day".
>>>
>>> Alias

>>
>>
>>
>> You're living in a constant state of denial.

>
>
> A lie.
>
>> Every post of yours is an insult fo one type or another.

>
>
> A lie.
>
>> Everybody in this ng has complained to you about your demeanor, name
>> calling an insultingly personal labeling

>
>
> Another lie.
>
>> (remember what you wrote about me the other day...or did you forget?).

>
>
> Oh, so you can only dish it out but can't take it, eh?
>
>> I suggest you shut your stupid insulting mouth once and for all and
>> stop making a fool out of yourself in public.

>
>
> Your suggestions are not accepted.
>
>> But then again, I don't think you have the intelligence to know when
>> to stop as you've already demonstrated.
>> Wise up!
>> You're starting to get into the danger zone.
>> Frank

>
>
> "Danger zone"? What's that?
>
> Alias



hahaha...well, you've just proved exactly what I predicted.
You're so easy!
You're actually dumber than I thought anyone could possibly be.
You're in fact nothing more than a linux loser side show freak.
Oh, for most people that would be an insult but for you that's a compliment.
Frank
 
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Alias

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> Adam Albright wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:27:06 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mr. Happy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your well-considered retort. I must assume, that you
>>>>>>> disagree
>>>>>>> with each of the statements I made? I should learn to not argue
>>>>>>> with you,
>>>>>>> as you are so good at tearing the bits apart with your indepth and
>>>>>>> thoughtful analysis. You obviously are a great debater. Trouble
>>>>>>> is, your
>>>>>>> kind of debating skills is what one would find in a primary
>>>>>>> school. You
>>>>>>> have graduated from primary school, haven't you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shake Hands With,
>>>>>>> Mr. Happy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's put it this way, you didn't pass marketing 101.
>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nobody forgot your claimed marketing experience... Frank says he runs
>>>>> some mom and pop "marketing" company off his kitchen table. Probably
>>>>> some MLM rip off or chain letter scam.
>>>>>
>>>>> ROTFLMAO!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, he sells a book called "Insult of the Day".
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're living in a constant state of denial.

>>
>>
>> A lie.
>>
>>> Every post of yours is an insult fo one type or another.

>>
>>
>> A lie.
>>
>>> Everybody in this ng has complained to you about your demeanor, name
>>> calling an insultingly personal labeling

>>
>>
>> Another lie.
>>
>>> (remember what you wrote about me the other day...or did you forget?).

>>
>>
>> Oh, so you can only dish it out but can't take it, eh?
>>
>>> I suggest you shut your stupid insulting mouth once and for all and
>>> stop making a fool out of yourself in public.

>>
>>
>> Your suggestions are not accepted.
>>
>>> But then again, I don't think you have the intelligence to know when
>>> to stop as you've already demonstrated.
>>> Wise up!
>>> You're starting to get into the danger zone.
>>> Frank

>>
>>
>> "Danger zone"? What's that?
>>
>> Alias

>
>
> hahaha...well, you've just proved exactly what I predicted.


Yeah, that you're a lying and name calling slob.

Alias
 
J

Jeff

"Mr. Happy" <mrhappy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1183784584.582295@netadmin1.interbaun.net...
> Jeff wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>> What I was disputing is your argument that because there are more
>>> Windows
>>> boxes, there are more Windows viruses and malware than there are for
>>> Linux. I say it's the difference in the architecture of each, not the
>>> quantity of boxes out there. Get it now?
>>>
>>> Alias

>>
>> Let's say for example I am someone wanting to write a virus to infect as
>> many computers as possible. I'm going to target windows computers
>> because
>> there's FAR more of them than there are linux boxes... Now do you get
>> it...
>>
>> Jeff

>
> You're going to target Windows because your virus will have a much much
> easier time to do what viruses need to do, propagate.


Because out of the first 100 computers it runs into 98 of them are going to
be Windows boxes.

> They can do it easily in a Windows environment, but find it very difficult
> in a Linux
> environment. To understand why, you'll need to understand how Linux is a
> true multiuser operating system and at its core isolates user spaces from
> one another and from the kernel space. A virus attacking a Linux box will
> at most cause damage to files owned by that user. Hence, it cannot
> propagate. Hence, it's ability to be a "virus" is short lived.


The average user today makes themselves administrators or logon as root
(Linux equivalent). Even if they aren't they are more than willing to type
that root password in when it asks them for it when installing software not
thinking they might be installing something the don't want.... This is how
most virus's propogate.

NT seperated the user and kernel space back in what 1993?


It is still plain stupid not to protect yourself and others buy not running
an a/v solution whether your running windows or linux.

Jeff
 
J

Jeff


> True in the Windows world. In the Linux world, it isn't that easy to just
> pickup an application from anywhere and install it. A repository, like
> Ubuntu's, will have over 25,500 software packages, and that is where the
> typical Linux user will get his/her software. He/she will not be picking
> up
> raw source code files and trying to compile them and install the binaries.
>


Probably because most of the software floating around in cyberspace is
written for
Windows since it is by far the most widely adopted at the current time.

>> If everyone is growing so savvy as you think explain why the geek squad
>> at
>> best buy is doing so well....
>>

> Most of their income comes from cleaning Windows machines of malware.
>


Actually i believe its from installing the accessories and computers they
sell to the masses
but i'm sure they do some cleaning. But why would they be doing that if
everyone was as savvy
as you originally suggested?

Jeff
 
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