Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition

[MEB]

"Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:fK-dnZYwJ8btdS7bnZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com...
| Dan wrote:
| > Well, I tried replying with 98SE and it said it went through but I see
| > nothing posted here about it yet. I removed Sound Blaster Audigy and
| > Radeon 9800 XT from 98SE and XP Pro. I have removed Zone Alarm from
| > 98SE since I don't need it since I have a hardware firewall. I
| > posted the error message and it had to do with Windows Media Player
| > 9. I posted the error message in full and perhaps
| > the filter thought it was spam. Anyway, I can post the error message
| > again later
| > when installing the Sound Blaster Audigy on 98SE if it will help.
| >
| You still should use a software firewall.
|
|

Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again when he gets
whacked..

 

[Dan]

LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software firewall even
if you have a router. Anyway, I still use the software firewall with XP Pro.
side as a backup even though it has been uneeded so far because of the
hardware firewall in the router. I have tested it at a few sites including
the grc.com shields up test.

"MEB" wrote:

>
>
> "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:fK-dnZYwJ8btdS7bnZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com...
> | Dan wrote:
> | > Well, I tried replying with 98SE and it said it went through but I see
> | > nothing posted here about it yet. I removed Sound Blaster Audigy and
> | > Radeon 9800 XT from 98SE and XP Pro. I have removed Zone Alarm from
> | > 98SE since I don't need it since I have a hardware firewall. I
> | > posted the error message and it had to do with Windows Media Player
> | > 9. I posted the error message in full and perhaps
> | > the filter thought it was spam. Anyway, I can post the error message
> | > again later
> | > when installing the Sound Blaster Audigy on 98SE if it will help.
> | >
> | You still should use a software firewall.
> |
> |
>
> Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again when he gets
> whacked..
>
>
>
>

 

[Dan]

I have a remote call error with the driver for 98SE on the Ati Radeon 9800XT
and the XP driver works fine but I reverted the drivers back to standard ones
on the XP Pro. side as well just to be safe and also for my own interest in
working with software drivers on the XP side. I hope Gary S. Terhune, Chris
Quirke or Ron Baldour(?) or other MVP's has some comments on this issue.

"Buffalo" wrote:

> Dan wrote:
> > Thanks PCR! I also just ordered a replacement Ati Radeon 9800 XT cd
> > from ATI that has both XP drivers and 98 drivers on it. I get a
> > remote call out error when I try to install the latest Ati 9800 XT
> > from the downloaded driver and control console that comes with the
> > driver. Let me know if you have any more suggestions as I wade
> > through these ones.
>
> I was mistaken about having to have NET Framework installed in Win98Se.
> You only need it with Win2000 and later when you install ATI's Catalyst
> Control Center.
> You can install only the drivers without CCC in any system and therefore NET
> is not necessary.
> I don't believe that the Catalyst Control Center will install in Win98Se,
> but not really sure.
> Make sure you read on how to uninstall the ATI drivers completely.
> If you are also installing those drivers for WinXP, be sure and get the XP
> drivers.
> I have downloaded drivers from ATI with no problem and they installed fine.
> Having the drivers on a CD may help, but they get outdated fairly soon.
> If you have the exact error message, I believe you can probably look it up
> on the ATI site.
> PS: Make sure you monitor is being properly recognized. If not, install the
> drivers (.ini file) for it.
>
>
>

 

[Dan]

Thanks Buffalo. Hopefully, the cd will fix things up well since it has more
stuff and capability than what is offered on the website.

"Buffalo" wrote:

> Dan wrote:
> > Thanks PCR! I also just ordered a replacement Ati Radeon 9800 XT cd
> > from ATI that has both XP drivers and 98 drivers on it. I get a
> > remote call out error when I try to install the latest Ati 9800 XT
> > from the downloaded driver and control console that comes with the
> > driver. Let me know if you have any more suggestions as I wade
> > through these ones.
>
> About the only thing I could find with a "Remote Procedure Call Error" was
> to NOT install the WDM drivers.
>
>
>

 

[Buffalo]

MEB wrote:
> "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:fK-dnZYwJ8btdS7bnZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Dan wrote:
>>> Well, I tried replying with 98SE and it said it went through but I
>>> see nothing posted here about it yet. I removed Sound Blaster
>>> Audigy and Radeon 9800 XT from 98SE and XP Pro. I have removed
>>> Zone Alarm from 98SE since I don't need it since I have a hardware
>>> firewall. I posted the error message and it had to do with Windows
>>> Media Player
>>> 9. I posted the error message in full and perhaps
>>> the filter thought it was spam. Anyway, I can post the error
>>> message again later
>>> when installing the Sound Blaster Audigy on 98SE if it will help.
>>>
>> You still should use a software firewall.
>>
>>
>
> Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again when he
> gets whacked..

Meb, although I am using a router, ZA has stopped a couple of programs
trying to call out.
Without ZA's interception, they would have succeeded.
Mind you, it's only happened twice in four years, but it still happened.
I have been using ZA for at least 6yrs, and yes, I have had a few problems
with it, but not many.

 

[MEB]

Okay Dan, excuse me if I laugh out loud maniacally when you get hacked or
whacked.. see you sometime in the future...
Best do some actual networking research so you get a better understanding
of how all this works..
--
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http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________


"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0D836E39-A99E-4E79-A5FC-7E2B693EB6FC@microsoft.com...
| LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software firewall
even
| if you have a router. Anyway, I still use the software firewall with XP
Pro.
| side as a backup even though it has been uneeded so far because of the
| hardware firewall in the router. I have tested it at a few sites
including
| the grc.com shields up test.
|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| >
| >
| > "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
| > news:fK-dnZYwJ8btdS7bnZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com...
| > | Dan wrote:
| > | > Well, I tried replying with 98SE and it said it went through but I
see
| > | > nothing posted here about it yet. I removed Sound Blaster Audigy
and
| > | > Radeon 9800 XT from 98SE and XP Pro. I have removed Zone Alarm from
| > | > 98SE since I don't need it since I have a hardware firewall. I
| > | > posted the error message and it had to do with Windows Media Player
| > | > 9. I posted the error message in full and perhaps
| > | > the filter thought it was spam. Anyway, I can post the error
message
| > | > again later
| > | > when installing the Sound Blaster Audigy on 98SE if it will help.
| > | >
| > | You still should use a software firewall.
| > |
| > |
| >
| > Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again when he
gets
| > whacked..
| >
| >
| >
| >

 

[MEB]

Oh wait, you won't even KNOW WHEN THAT OCCURS, until way after you have
been, if then... so I guess I can laugh now

HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHHEHHEHEHEHAHHAHHH HAHHSHDHDHHA
WHWHHWHWHHWHOOOOOAOOAOAOOAOOAHHH

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________


"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Okay Dan, excuse me if I laugh out loud maniacally when you get hacked or
| whacked.. see you sometime in the future...
| Best do some actual networking research so you get a better understanding
| of how all this works..
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| ________
|
|
| "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| news:0D836E39-A99E-4E79-A5FC-7E2B693EB6FC@microsoft.com...
| | LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software firewall
| even
| | if you have a router. Anyway, I still use the software firewall with XP
| Pro.
| | side as a backup even though it has been uneeded so far because of the
| | hardware firewall in the router. I have tested it at a few sites
| including
| | the grc.com shields up test.
| |
| | "MEB" wrote:
| |
| | >
| | >
| | > "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
| | > news:fK-dnZYwJ8btdS7bnZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com...
| | > | Dan wrote:
| | > | > Well, I tried replying with 98SE and it said it went through but I
| see
| | > | > nothing posted here about it yet. I removed Sound Blaster Audigy
| and
| | > | > Radeon 9800 XT from 98SE and XP Pro. I have removed Zone Alarm
from
| | > | > 98SE since I don't need it since I have a hardware firewall. I
| | > | > posted the error message and it had to do with Windows Media
Player
| | > | > 9. I posted the error message in full and perhaps
| | > | > the filter thought it was spam. Anyway, I can post the error
| message
| | > | > again later
| | > | > when installing the Sound Blaster Audigy on 98SE if it will help.
| | > | >
| | > | You still should use a software firewall.
| | > |
| | > |
| | >
| | > Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again when he
| gets
| | > whacked..
| | >
| | >
| | >
| | >
|
|

 

[PCR]

MEB wrote:
| Oh wait, you won't even KNOW WHEN THAT OCCURS, until way after you
| have been, if then... so I guess I can laugh now
|
| HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHHEHHEHEHEHAHHAHHH
| HAHHSHDHDHHA WHWHHWHWHHWHOOOOOAOOAOAOOAOOAHHH

Huh? He said he DOES use a software firewall even having a router!

| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| ________
|
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:evmKLcr1HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|| Okay Dan, excuse me if I laugh out loud maniacally when you get
|| hacked or whacked.. see you sometime in the future...
|| Best do some actual networking research so you get a better
|| understanding of how all this works..
|| --
|| MEB
|| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| ________
||
||
|| "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
|| news:0D836E39-A99E-4E79-A5FC-7E2B693EB6FC@microsoft.com...
|| | LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software
|| | firewall even if you have a router. Anyway, I still use the
|| | software firewall with XP Pro. side as a backup even though it has
|| | been uneeded so far because of the hardware firewall in the
|| | router. I have tested it at a few sites including the grc.com
|| | shields up test.
|| |
|| | "MEB" wrote:
|| |
|| | >
|| | >
|| | > "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
|| | > news:fK-dnZYwJ8btdS7bnZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com...
|| | > | Dan wrote:
|| | > | > Well, I tried replying with 98SE and it said it went through
|| | > | > but I see nothing posted here about it yet. I removed Sound
|| | > | > Blaster Audigy and Radeon 9800 XT from 98SE and XP Pro. I
|| | > | > have removed Zone Alarm from 98SE since I don't need it
|| | > | > since I have a hardware firewall. I posted the error
|| | > | > message and it had to do with Windows Media Player
|| | > | > 9. I posted the error message in full and perhaps
|| | > | > the filter thought it was spam. Anyway, I can post the
|| | > | > error message again later
|| | > | > when installing the Sound Blaster Audigy on 98SE if it will
|| | > | > help.
|| | > | >
|| | > | You still should use a software firewall.
|| | > |
|| | > |
|| | >
|| | > Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again
|| | > when he gets whacked..

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[PCR]

Dan wrote:
| Okay, I am trying to fix everything now just in case anything from
| the XP side corrupted the 98 side. Although, the XP side is on D:
| and the 98SE is on C: there still may have been something that
| slipped from D: to C: because of user (my error). I have uninstalled
| Sound Blaster Audigy from both XP side and 98SE side. Also, I have
| unistalled Ati Radeon 9800XT from both XP side and 98SE side. I have
| checked extensively for viruses, spyware, adware, etc. and only
| turned up 3 tracking cookies. When I try and reinstall the Sound
| Blaster Audigy it works but it gives me one error message and I am
| clueless as to what this might mean and what to do about it. Well I
| just Googled it and it told me it was related to Windows Media Player
| which I have. I have Windows Media Player 9 on the 98SE side.
| Should I unistall that too?

UnRegMp2.exe is part of WMP9. And it sounds like it is the .inf that does the install of it & possibly the uninstall too...

UnRegMp2.exe
Desc: Microsoft Windows Media Player Setup Utility
Loc: C:\WINDOWS\INF
Size: 192,512 bytes
Mod: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:08:28 AM
Ver: 9.00.00.2980

But I think it more likely is MSVCRT.DLL that is at fault. Here is what I usually post for it...

I find (in Win98SE) MSVCRT.DLL is in WIN98_63.CAB. It is also in
SETUPW95.CAB, which is an IE5.5 & IE6 SP1 .cab.

MSVCRT.DLL
Desc: Microsoft (R) C Runtime Library
Loc: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
Size: 278,581 bytes
Mod: Thursday, April 06, 2000 08:10:40 PM
Ver: 6.00.8797.0

That is what mine looks like in Win98SE apparently, it has been updated
by something beyond the Win98 .cabs (v.6.00.8397.0) & beyond the IE6
SP1 .cabs (v.6.00.8397.0)-- by likely one of the IE cumulative updates.

I GUESS begin with an Extract from your more easily accessible Win98
..cabs. After that, look to update it by over-installing IE. OR, maybe begin with the over-install of IE-- I have instructions for that too, if you want.

Here is how to do it in DOS...

(a) DIR /s /a C:\MSVCRT.DLL
Will say whether you have it, & where it is. Should be in
"C:\Windows\System", thus...

C:\>DIR /s /a C:\MSVCRT.DLL
Directory of C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
MSVCRT DLL 278,581 04-06-00 8:10p MSVCRT.DLL
1 file(s) 278,581 bytes

(b)
"EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows\System <LOC>\Base4.cab MSVCRT.dll"

That is all one line between the quotes with 5 spaces, but do not enter
the quotes. It will offer to overwite, if one is already there.

<LOC> is the location of "Base4.cab". This may be discovered as
follows...

C:\>DIR /s /a C:\base4.cab
Directory of C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS
BASE4 CAB 168,960 04-23-99 10:22p BASE4.CAB
1 file(s) 168,960 bytes

If you have the .cabs on a CD, you will use your CD-ROM drive letter,
instead of "C:\" in that DIR command. And probably it will find it to be
located in... "X:\Win98"... where "X:\" is the CD-ROM letter.

So, in my case, the command is...

"EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows\System C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\Base4.cab
MSVCRT.dll"

All one line: no quotes: there are 5 spaces in the line, including one
after "Base4.cab".

| Thanks for the help and patience
| everyone.
|
| UNREGMP2 caused an invalid page fault in
| module MSVCRT.DLL at 0167:7800fa4d.
|
| Registers:
| EAX=00581000 CS=0167 EIP=7800fa4d EFLGS=00010206
| EBX=005806b4 SS=016f ESP=0056ece0 EBP=0056ecf0
| ECX=005806b4 DS=016f ESI=8007000e FS=3f4f
| EDX=0000007b ES=016f EDI=00000104 GS=0000
| Bytes at CS:EIP:
| 66 8b 10 83 c0 02 66 85 d2 75 f5 2b c1 d1 f8 48
| Stack dump:
| 010142f1 005806b4 00000000 7ffce00c 0056f04c 01014608 00000000
| 005806b4 0056fabc 00000104 00000000 00000208 006e0045 00650074
| 00740072 00690061
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
|> Dan wrote:
|> | Thanks PCR! I also just ordered a replacement Ati Radeon 9800 XT
|> | cd from ATI that has both XP drivers and 98 drivers on it. I get a
|> | remote call out error when I try to install the latest Ati 9800 XT
|> | from the downloaded driver and control console that comes with the
|> | driver. Let me know if you have any more suggestions as I wade
|> | through these ones.
|>
|> I can only guess the installation is trying to dial out or connect to
|> some WEB site. Are you online when you try to install it? I was
|> hoping that site Buffalo posted would solve it. You may need to
|> allow Cookies for the site to work-- I'm getting fairly empty pages
|> without it!
|>
|> |
|> | "PCR" wrote:
|> |
|> |> Dan wrote:
|> |> | Okay, I am posting this in 98SE! Hooray! I reinstalled the
|> |> | sound drivers. However, when I try and reinstall the Ati
|> |> | graphics driver, I get a remote call error when I try and
|> |> | install the Ati Graphics Driver. I am trying to install the
|> |> | Ati driver for 98SE for the Ati 9800 XT and currently am just
|> |> | using a basic VGA display for 98SE.
|> |>
|> |> I am happy for your success with the sound drivers. Looks like
|> |> Buffalo came up with a site for the graphics drivers & sounds like
|> |> his is the voice of experience on it. I would go there!
|> |> Nevertheless...
|> |>
|> |> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=127139
|> |> Troubleshooting Video Problems in Windows
|> |>
|> |> "START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button". If checked, then uncheck
|> |> "VGA 640x480x16", & reboot.
|> |>
|> |> "Control Panel, Display, Settings tab". Select as you wish from
|> |> the Colors dropdown menu & the Size slider.
|> |>
|> |> If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, possibly
|> |> click the Advanced button, & select Large fonts too or
|> |> there is a chance you end up with tiny, unreadable fonts!
|> |>
|> |> Try to get your colors/size at least twice that way. If it
|> |> continues to fail, you may need to reinstall your Monitor or
|> |> Display Adapter...
|> |>
|> |> For the Monitor...
|> |> (1) Boot to Safe Mode
|> |> (Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
|> |> (2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"
|> |> (3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries.
|> |>
|> |> Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is installed
|> |> similar to below for the Adapter. That is...
|> |> (a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver tab.
|> |> (b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next".
|> |> (c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
|> |> (d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
|> |> Examine the two panes to see what is currently
|> |> installed. That is likely what you wish to end up
|> |> with, after step (4).
|> |>
|> |> (4) Boot to Normal Mode.
|> |>
|> |> Hopefully, it will be rediscovered & installed. Then, if still
|> |> necessary, here is the rigmarole of the Display Adapter...
|> |>
|> |> .......Quote..........
|> |> The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have
|> |> installed. Right-click on the desktop choose "Properties" from
|> |> the drop-down menu select "Settings" click on the "Advanced"
|> |> button and click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that
|> |> tells Windows how to deal with a specific video card. Make note
|> |> of the adapter that is currently installed. Then, change the
|> |> adapter to "Standard Display Adapter (VGA)" and restart the
|> |> system.
|> |>
|> |> [That is: Click "Change, Next, bolt 'Display a List...', Next,
|> |> bolt 'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select
|> |> '(Standard display types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter
|> |> (VGA)' in right pane, click 'Next'"... PCR]
|> |>
|> |> This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a generic
|> |> VGA adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like VGA
|> |> because it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of installing
|> |> it is to get rid of whatever was there before.
|> |>
|> |> Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that
|> |> matches your video card. This may or may not be the adapter that
|> |> you are
|> |> using now. Examine the materials you received with your computer
|> |> to see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains the
|> |> correct video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and see if
|> |> they have an adapter for you to download. Or check the website of
|> |> the company that made your video card.
|> |>
|> |> Bill Starbuck (MVP)
|> |> .......End....of quote....
|> |>
|> |> Also...
|> |> ..........Quote................
|> |> To identify your video adapter correctly, download and run either
|> |> the Everest or Aida32 utility, available here:
|> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads9.html
|> |>
|> |> There are links to both the Personal and Enterprise versions of
|> |> AIDA32....I
|> |> suggest Enterprise:
|> |>
|> http://www.majorgeeks.com/Aida32_-_Enterprise_System_Information_d183.html
|> |>
|> |> Everest Free Edition:
|> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html
|> |>
|> |> AIDA32 is also available here:
|> |> http://aumha.org/freeware/freeware.php#aida32
|> |> --
|> |> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
|> |> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|> |> .........EOQ....................
|> |>
|> |> | "PCR" wrote:
|> |> |
|> |> |> Dan wrote:
|> |> |> | Okay, the video drivers are fine. There may be an issue with
|> |> |> | the sound card drivers. It is a Sound Blaster Audigy.
|> |> |> | After, I uninstall and reinstall the sound card drivers then
|> |> |> | I can eliminate that. Then, I will proceed to go through
|> |> |> | PCR's suggestions. Thanks everyone for the advice so far.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> You are welcome. Keep us informed.
|> |>
|> |> --
|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> PCR
|> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[MEB]

No, read it again:

DAN:
"LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software firewall
even
if you have a router."

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________


"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
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MEB wrote:
| Oh wait, you won't even KNOW WHEN THAT OCCURS, until way after you
| have been, if then... so I guess I can laugh now
|
| HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHHEHHEHEHEHAHHAHHH
| HAHHSHDHDHHA WHWHHWHWHHWHOOOOOAOOAOAOOAOOAHHH

Huh? He said he DOES use a software firewall even having a router!

| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| ________
|
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:evmKLcr1HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|| Okay Dan, excuse me if I laugh out loud maniacally when you get
|| hacked or whacked.. see you sometime in the future...
|| Best do some actual networking research so you get a better
|| understanding of how all this works..
|| --
|| MEB
|| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| ________
||
||
|| "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
|| news:0D836E39-A99E-4E79-A5FC-7E2B693EB6FC@microsoft.com...
|| | LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software
|| | firewall even if you have a router. Anyway, I still use the
|| | software firewall with XP Pro. side as a backup even though it has
|| | been uneeded so far because of the hardware firewall in the
|| | router. I have tested it at a few sites including the grc.com
|| | shields up test.
|| |
|| | "MEB" wrote:
|| |
|| | >
|| | >
|| | > "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
|| | > news:fK-dnZYwJ8btdS7bnZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com...
|| | > | Dan wrote:
|| | > | > Well, I tried replying with 98SE and it said it went through
|| | > | > but I see nothing posted here about it yet. I removed Sound
|| | > | > Blaster Audigy and Radeon 9800 XT from 98SE and XP Pro. I
|| | > | > have removed Zone Alarm from 98SE since I don't need it
|| | > | > since I have a hardware firewall. I posted the error
|| | > | > message and it had to do with Windows Media Player
|| | > | > 9. I posted the error message in full and perhaps
|| | > | > the filter thought it was spam. Anyway, I can post the
|| | > | > error message again later
|| | > | > when installing the Sound Blaster Audigy on 98SE if it will
|| | > | > help.
|| | > | >
|| | > | You still should use a software firewall.
|| | > |
|| | > |
|| | >
|| | > Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again
|| | > when he gets whacked..

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[PCR]

MEB wrote:
| No, read it again:
|
| DAN:
| "LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software
| firewall even
| if you have a router."

I don't know, still sounds to me like he uses a software firewall & a hardware one too. That's what you want, right?

| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| ________
|
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:OlOMs7r1HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| MEB wrote:
|| Oh wait, you won't even KNOW WHEN THAT OCCURS, until way after you
|| have been, if then... so I guess I can laugh now
||
|| HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHHEHHEHEHEHAHHAHHH
|| HAHHSHDHDHHA WHWHHWHWHHWHOOOOOAOOAOAOOAOOAHHH
|
| Huh? He said he DOES use a software firewall even having a router!
|
|| --
|| MEB
|| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| ________
||
||
|| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| news:evmKLcr1HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
||| Okay Dan, excuse me if I laugh out loud maniacally when you get
||| hacked or whacked.. see you sometime in the future...
||| Best do some actual networking research so you get a better
||| understanding of how all this works..
||| --
||| MEB
||| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
||| ________
|||
|||
||| "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
||| news:0D836E39-A99E-4E79-A5FC-7E2B693EB6FC@microsoft.com...
||| | LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software
||| | firewall even if you have a router. Anyway, I still use the
||| | software firewall with XP Pro. side as a backup even though it has
||| | been uneeded so far because of the hardware firewall in the
||| | router. I have tested it at a few sites including the grc.com
||| | shields up test.
||| |
||| | "MEB" wrote:
||| |
||| | >
||| | >
||| | > "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
||| | > news:fK-dnZYwJ8btdS7bnZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com...
||| | > | Dan wrote:
||| | > | > Well, I tried replying with 98SE and it said it went through
||| | > | > but I see nothing posted here about it yet. I removed Sound
||| | > | > Blaster Audigy and Radeon 9800 XT from 98SE and XP Pro. I
||| | > | > have removed Zone Alarm from 98SE since I don't need it
||| | > | > since I have a hardware firewall. I posted the error
||| | > | > message and it had to do with Windows Media Player
||| | > | > 9. I posted the error message in full and perhaps
||| | > | > the filter thought it was spam. Anyway, I can post the
||| | > | > error message again later
||| | > | > when installing the Sound Blaster Audigy on 98SE if it will
||| | > | > help.
||| | > | >
||| | > | You still should use a software firewall.
||| | > |
||| | > |
||| | >
||| | > Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again
||| | > when he gets whacked..
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
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[MEB]

Dang guy, read it again:::::

DAN [in another segment]:
"Anyway, I still use the software firewall with XP Pro.
side as a backup even though it has been uneeded so far because of the
hardware firewall in the router. "

Now really, where did you get the idea Dan thinks software firewalls have
any use....

oh oh, here it comes again

bwahhehhehehehehehehehehhehhahahahahhahhhchchahhdhhrhrhwrhahahhfhdfhhshchxvh
xhjh cough heheehe

Okay I think I've got it under control again..... hhehehheheeeetsk cough
snik, hummm

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________


"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:OM0R3At1HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
MEB wrote:
| No, read it again:
|
| DAN:
| "LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software
| firewall even
| if you have a router."

I don't know, still sounds to me like he uses a software firewall & a
hardware one too. That's what you want, right?

| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| ________
|
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:OlOMs7r1HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| MEB wrote:
|| Oh wait, you won't even KNOW WHEN THAT OCCURS, until way after you
|| have been, if then... so I guess I can laugh now
||
|| HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHHEHHEHEHEHAHHAHHH
|| HAHHSHDHDHHA WHWHHWHWHHWHOOOOOAOOAOAOOAOOAHHH
|
| Huh? He said he DOES use a software firewall even having a router!
|
|| --
|| MEB
|| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| ________
||
||
|| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| news:evmKLcr1HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
||| Okay Dan, excuse me if I laugh out loud maniacally when you get
||| hacked or whacked.. see you sometime in the future...
||| Best do some actual networking research so you get a better
||| understanding of how all this works..
||| --
||| MEB
||| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
||| ________
|||
|||
||| "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
||| news:0D836E39-A99E-4E79-A5FC-7E2B693EB6FC@microsoft.com...
||| | LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software
||| | firewall even if you have a router. Anyway, I still use the
||| | software firewall with XP Pro. side as a backup even though it has
||| | been uneeded so far because of the hardware firewall in the
||| | router. I have tested it at a few sites including the grc.com
||| | shields up test.
||| |
||| | "MEB" wrote:
||| |
||| | >
||| | >
||| | > "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
||| | > news:fK-dnZYwJ8btdS7bnZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com...
||| | > | Dan wrote:
||| | > | > Well, I tried replying with 98SE and it said it went through
||| | > | > but I see nothing posted here about it yet. I removed Sound
||| | > | > Blaster Audigy and Radeon 9800 XT from 98SE and XP Pro. I
||| | > | > have removed Zone Alarm from 98SE since I don't need it
||| | > | > since I have a hardware firewall. I posted the error
||| | > | > message and it had to do with Windows Media Player
||| | > | > 9. I posted the error message in full and perhaps
||| | > | > the filter thought it was spam. Anyway, I can post the
||| | > | > error message again later
||| | > | > when installing the Sound Blaster Audigy on 98SE if it will
||| | > | > help.
||| | > | >
||| | > | You still should use a software firewall.
||| | > |
||| | > |
||| | >
||| | > Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again
||| | > when he gets whacked..
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
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[Buffalo]

PCR wrote:
> MEB wrote:
>> Oh wait, you won't even KNOW WHEN THAT OCCURS, until way after you
>> have been, if then... so I guess I can laugh now
>>
>> HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHHEHHEHEHEHAHHAHHH
>> HAHHSHDHDHHA WHWHHWHWHHWHOOOOOAOOAOAOOAOOAHHH
>
> Huh? He said he DOES use a software firewall even having a router!

At first I thought Meb was laughing at me for suggesting to use a software
firewall besides a hardware one.

> " "Buffalo" <
> You still should use a software firewall.

Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again when he gets
whacked.."

Dan said that he was still using a software firewall in XP but that he had
uninstalled it in Win98se.
"I have removed Zone Alarm from
98SE since I don't need it since I have a hardware firewall."
"Anyway, I still use the software firewall with XP Pro.
side as a backup even though it has been uneeded so far because of the
hardware firewall in the router."

Yes, it was a little bit confusing.

 

[PCR]

Buffalo wrote:
| PCR wrote:
|> MEB wrote:
|>> Oh wait, you won't even KNOW WHEN THAT OCCURS, until way after you
|>> have been, if then... so I guess I can laugh now
|>>
|>> HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHHEHHEHEHEHAHHAHHH
|>> HAHHSHDHDHHA WHWHHWHWHHWHOOOOOAOOAOAOOAOOAHHH
|>
|> Huh? He said he DOES use a software firewall even having a router!
|
| At first I thought Meb was laughing at me for suggesting to use a
| software firewall besides a hardware one.

Apparently, no-- he agrees with the position!

|> " "Buffalo" <
|> You still should use a software firewall.
|
| Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again when he
| gets whacked.."
|
| Dan said that he was still using a software firewall in XP but that
| he had uninstalled it in Win98se.

Ooops, yea, I see that now.

| "I have removed Zone Alarm from
| 98SE since I don't need it since I have a hardware firewall."
| "Anyway, I still use the software firewall with XP Pro.
| side as a backup even though it has been uneeded so far because of the
| hardware firewall in the router."
|
| Yes, it was a little bit confusing.

Yep. OK, thanks for the clarification! I see it now. It really all depends how good or configurable the router firewall is as to whether the software one is necessary, I think.

--
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There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[PCR]

MEB wrote:
| Dang guy, read it again:::::
|
| DAN [in another segment]:
| "Anyway, I still use the software firewall with XP Pro.
| side as a backup even though it has been uneeded so far because of the
| hardware firewall in the router. "
|
| Now really, where did you get the idea Dan thinks software firewalls
| have any use....

OK, Buffalo straightened me out. But, it really depends on how configurable Dan's particular hardware firewall is. If as configurable as Kerio, then he only needs that one, I think!

| oh oh, here it comes again
|
| bwahhehhehehehehehehehehhehhahahahahhahhhchchahhdhhrhrhwrhahahhfhdfhhshchxvh
| xhjh cough heheehe
|
| Okay I think I've got it under control again..... hhehehheheeeetsk
| cough snik, hummm
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| ________
|
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:OM0R3At1HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| MEB wrote:
|| No, read it again:
||
|| DAN:
|| "LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software
|| firewall even
|| if you have a router."
|
| I don't know, still sounds to me like he uses a software firewall & a
| hardware one too. That's what you want, right?
|
|| --
|| MEB
|| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| ________
||
||
|| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|| news:OlOMs7r1HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|| MEB wrote:
||| Oh wait, you won't even KNOW WHEN THAT OCCURS, until way after you
||| have been, if then... so I guess I can laugh now
|||
||| HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHHEHHEHEHEHAHHAHHH
||| HAHHSHDHDHHA WHWHHWHWHHWHOOOOOAOOAOAOOAOOAHHH
||
|| Huh? He said he DOES use a software firewall even having a router!
||
||| --
||| MEB
||| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
||| ________
|||
|||
||| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
||| news:evmKLcr1HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|||| Okay Dan, excuse me if I laugh out loud maniacally when you get
|||| hacked or whacked.. see you sometime in the future...
|||| Best do some actual networking research so you get a better
|||| understanding of how all this works..
|||| --
|||| MEB
|||| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|||| ________
||||
||||
|||| "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
|||| news:0D836E39-A99E-4E79-A5FC-7E2B693EB6FC@microsoft.com...
|||| | LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software
|||| | firewall even if you have a router. Anyway, I still use the
|||| | software firewall with XP Pro. side as a backup even though it
|||| | has been uneeded so far because of the hardware firewall in the
|||| | router. I have tested it at a few sites including the grc.com
|||| | shields up test.
|||| |
|||| | "MEB" wrote:
|||| |
|||| | >
|||| | >
|||| | > "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
|||| | > news:fK-dnZYwJ8btdS7bnZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com...
|||| | > | Dan wrote:
|||| | > | > Well, I tried replying with 98SE and it said it went
|||| | > | > through but I see nothing posted here about it yet. I
|||| | > | > removed Sound Blaster Audigy and Radeon 9800 XT from 98SE
|||| | > | > and XP Pro. I have removed Zone Alarm from 98SE since I
|||| | > | > don't need it since I have a hardware firewall. I posted
|||| | > | > the error message and it had to do with Windows Media
|||| | > | > Player
|||| | > | > 9. I posted the error message in full and perhaps
|||| | > | > the filter thought it was spam. Anyway, I can post the
|||| | > | > error message again later
|||| | > | > when installing the Sound Blaster Audigy on 98SE if it will
|||| | > | > help.
|||| | > | >
|||| | > | You still should use a software firewall.
|||| | > |
|||| | > |
|||| | >
|||| | > Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again
|||| | > when he gets whacked..
||
|| --
|| Thanks or Good Luck,
|| There may be humor in this post, and,
|| Naturally, you will not sue,
|| Should things get worse after this,
|| PCR
|| pcrrcp@netzero.net
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
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[98 Guy]

MEB wrote:

> Oh wait, you won't even KNOW WHEN THAT OCCURS, until way after
> you have been, if then... so I guess I can laugh now

And I'll be laughing when your software firewall gets deactivated by
the next trojan or virus that gets onto your system.

By the way MEB, put a little effort into editing your posts. You have
the worst etiquette when it comes to participating in a thread. It's
a sign of being lazy. Don't be lazy. Quote only the text you're
replying to, and delete the rest. Don't drag 3 weeks worth of
previous material into your reply.

 

[MEB]

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:OUxiLSt1HHA.5532@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
MEB wrote:
| Dang guy, read it again:::::
|
| DAN [in another segment]:
| "Anyway, I still use the software firewall with XP Pro.
| side as a backup even though it has been uneeded so far because of the
| hardware firewall in the router. "
|
| Now really, where did you get the idea Dan thinks software firewalls
| have any use....

>OK, Buffalo straightened me out. But, it really depends on how configurable
Dan's particular hardware firewall is. >If as configurable as Kerio, then he
only needs that one, I think!

I would ask the most viable question:
WHAT the heck would make you think a router can be configured any where
NEAR as tightly as a software firewall regarding software/applications
UNLESS the router includes its own software firewall, but then we are
hijacking a discussion, and you haven't finished your studies.

The TRUELY SAD aspect of this all, is:
Dan has found and formed this opinion through supposed people he
apparently trusted that a FRIGGING router is the same as, OR BETTER, than a
software firewall, and provides sufficient protection for his system... and
that, apparently from the News Groups here [Microsoft] and its members and
where ever else they post, and/or elsewhere...

Now one of these occurred:

1. He got this from trusted members here, or from trusted members posting
somewhere else..

2. Or he got this elsewhere, and was NOT corrected when he came here.


Moreover, he also thinks the Microsoft's XP firewall will provide some sort
of protection, should he need it.

FACT: Microsoft's XP firewall provides semi-adequate protection ONLY in a
*local network* environment.

It has built in access points, evidenced by Auto-updates, etc. [blatantly
obvious and well known holes, it came with every hacker's XP system - DUH]:
and provides little protection for OUTBOUND access or software control.
EVERY HACKER knows its defaults, and configuration limits, AND ITS CODE....
Those that claim it is adequate REALLY don't get what does occur while
normal users access the Internet, nor do they apparently care.

We can likely rate this *routers are all you need while using the
Internet*, right up there with advising people to disable their email
protection provided by their Anti-virus programs: that's *pure crap* and
carrying the smell that goes with that.

EVERY little bit or piece you add for your protection is one more piece a
hacker, Trojan, virus, or Spyware has to circumvent...

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/vista_net_basic.htm
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/certs_install.htm
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/firewalls.htm
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/NETWORKING.htm
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/spyware.htm
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/antivirus.htm

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[MEB]

Look limp brain, why don't you finish your hard drive discussion, what's the
problem, can't figure it out... need some help....

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________

 

[Dan]

Thanks PCR! I will try to reinstall IE6 and also try to extract and replace
MSVCRT.DLL as you suggest.

"PCR" wrote:

> Dan wrote:
> | Okay, I am trying to fix everything now just in case anything from
> | the XP side corrupted the 98 side. Although, the XP side is on D:
> | and the 98SE is on C: there still may have been something that
> | slipped from D: to C: because of user (my error). I have uninstalled
> | Sound Blaster Audigy from both XP side and 98SE side. Also, I have
> | unistalled Ati Radeon 9800XT from both XP side and 98SE side. I have
> | checked extensively for viruses, spyware, adware, etc. and only
> | turned up 3 tracking cookies. When I try and reinstall the Sound
> | Blaster Audigy it works but it gives me one error message and I am
> | clueless as to what this might mean and what to do about it. Well I
> | just Googled it and it told me it was related to Windows Media Player
> | which I have. I have Windows Media Player 9 on the 98SE side.
> | Should I unistall that too?
>
> UnRegMp2.exe is part of WMP9. And it sounds like it is the .inf that does the install of it & possibly the uninstall too...
>
> UnRegMp2.exe
> Desc: Microsoft Windows Media Player Setup Utility
> Loc: C:\WINDOWS\INF
> Size: 192,512 bytes
> Mod: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:08:28 AM
> Ver: 9.00.00.2980
>
> But I think it more likely is MSVCRT.DLL that is at fault. Here is what I usually post for it...
>
> I find (in Win98SE) MSVCRT.DLL is in WIN98_63.CAB. It is also in
> SETUPW95.CAB, which is an IE5.5 & IE6 SP1 .cab.
>
> MSVCRT.DLL
> Desc: Microsoft (R) C Runtime Library
> Loc: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
> Size: 278,581 bytes
> Mod: Thursday, April 06, 2000 08:10:40 PM
> Ver: 6.00.8797.0
>
> That is what mine looks like in Win98SE apparently, it has been updated
> by something beyond the Win98 .cabs (v.6.00.8397.0) & beyond the IE6
> SP1 .cabs (v.6.00.8397.0)-- by likely one of the IE cumulative updates.
>
> I GUESS begin with an Extract from your more easily accessible Win98
> ..cabs. After that, look to update it by over-installing IE. OR, maybe begin with the over-install of IE-- I have instructions for that too, if you want.
>
> Here is how to do it in DOS...
>
> (a) DIR /s /a C:\MSVCRT.DLL
> Will say whether you have it, & where it is. Should be in
> "C:\Windows\System", thus...
>
> C:\>DIR /s /a C:\MSVCRT.DLL
> Directory of C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
> MSVCRT DLL 278,581 04-06-00 8:10p MSVCRT.DLL
> 1 file(s) 278,581 bytes
>
> (b)
> "EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows\System <LOC>\Base4.cab MSVCRT.dll"
>
> That is all one line between the quotes with 5 spaces, but do not enter
> the quotes. It will offer to overwite, if one is already there.
>
> <LOC> is the location of "Base4.cab". This may be discovered as
> follows...
>
> C:\>DIR /s /a C:\base4.cab
> Directory of C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS
> BASE4 CAB 168,960 04-23-99 10:22p BASE4.CAB
> 1 file(s) 168,960 bytes
>
> If you have the .cabs on a CD, you will use your CD-ROM drive letter,
> instead of "C:\" in that DIR command. And probably it will find it to be
> located in... "X:\Win98"... where "X:\" is the CD-ROM letter.
>
> So, in my case, the command is...
>
> "EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows\System C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\Base4.cab
> MSVCRT.dll"
>
> All one line: no quotes: there are 5 spaces in the line, including one
> after "Base4.cab".
>
> | Thanks for the help and patience
> | everyone.
> |
> | UNREGMP2 caused an invalid page fault in
> | module MSVCRT.DLL at 0167:7800fa4d.
> |
> | Registers:
> | EAX=00581000 CS=0167 EIP=7800fa4d EFLGS=00010206
> | EBX=005806b4 SS=016f ESP=0056ece0 EBP=0056ecf0
> | ECX=005806b4 DS=016f ESI=8007000e FS=3f4f
> | EDX=0000007b ES=016f EDI=00000104 GS=0000
> | Bytes at CS:EIP:
> | 66 8b 10 83 c0 02 66 85 d2 75 f5 2b c1 d1 f8 48
> | Stack dump:
> | 010142f1 005806b4 00000000 7ffce00c 0056f04c 01014608 00000000
> | 005806b4 0056fabc 00000104 00000000 00000208 006e0045 00650074
> | 00740072 00690061
> |
> | "PCR" wrote:
> |
> |> Dan wrote:
> |> | Thanks PCR! I also just ordered a replacement Ati Radeon 9800 XT
> |> | cd from ATI that has both XP drivers and 98 drivers on it. I get a
> |> | remote call out error when I try to install the latest Ati 9800 XT
> |> | from the downloaded driver and control console that comes with the
> |> | driver. Let me know if you have any more suggestions as I wade
> |> | through these ones.
> |>
> |> I can only guess the installation is trying to dial out or connect to
> |> some WEB site. Are you online when you try to install it? I was
> |> hoping that site Buffalo posted would solve it. You may need to
> |> allow Cookies for the site to work-- I'm getting fairly empty pages
> |> without it!
> |>
> |> |
> |> | "PCR" wrote:
> |> |
> |> |> Dan wrote:
> |> |> | Okay, I am posting this in 98SE! Hooray! I reinstalled the
> |> |> | sound drivers. However, when I try and reinstall the Ati
> |> |> | graphics driver, I get a remote call error when I try and
> |> |> | install the Ati Graphics Driver. I am trying to install the
> |> |> | Ati driver for 98SE for the Ati 9800 XT and currently am just
> |> |> | using a basic VGA display for 98SE.
> |> |>
> |> |> I am happy for your success with the sound drivers. Looks like
> |> |> Buffalo came up with a site for the graphics drivers & sounds like
> |> |> his is the voice of experience on it. I would go there!
> |> |> Nevertheless...
> |> |>
> |> |> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=127139
> |> |> Troubleshooting Video Problems in Windows
> |> |>
> |> |> "START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button". If checked, then uncheck
> |> |> "VGA 640x480x16", & reboot.
> |> |>
> |> |> "Control Panel, Display, Settings tab". Select as you wish from
> |> |> the Colors dropdown menu & the Size slider.
> |> |>
> |> |> If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, possibly
> |> |> click the Advanced button, & select Large fonts too or
> |> |> there is a chance you end up with tiny, unreadable fonts!
> |> |>
> |> |> Try to get your colors/size at least twice that way. If it
> |> |> continues to fail, you may need to reinstall your Monitor or
> |> |> Display Adapter...
> |> |>
> |> |> For the Monitor...
> |> |> (1) Boot to Safe Mode
> |> |> (Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
> |> |> (2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"
> |> |> (3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries.
> |> |>
> |> |> Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is installed
> |> |> similar to below for the Adapter. That is...
> |> |> (a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver tab.
> |> |> (b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next".
> |> |> (c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
> |> |> (d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
> |> |> Examine the two panes to see what is currently
> |> |> installed. That is likely what you wish to end up
> |> |> with, after step (4).
> |> |>
> |> |> (4) Boot to Normal Mode.
> |> |>
> |> |> Hopefully, it will be rediscovered & installed. Then, if still
> |> |> necessary, here is the rigmarole of the Display Adapter...
> |> |>
> |> |> .......Quote..........
> |> |> The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have
> |> |> installed. Right-click on the desktop choose "Properties" from
> |> |> the drop-down menu select "Settings" click on the "Advanced"
> |> |> button and click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that
> |> |> tells Windows how to deal with a specific video card. Make note
> |> |> of the adapter that is currently installed. Then, change the
> |> |> adapter to "Standard Display Adapter (VGA)" and restart the
> |> |> system.
> |> |>
> |> |> [That is: Click "Change, Next, bolt 'Display a List...', Next,
> |> |> bolt 'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select
> |> |> '(Standard display types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter
> |> |> (VGA)' in right pane, click 'Next'"... PCR]
> |> |>
> |> |> This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a generic
> |> |> VGA adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like VGA
> |> |> because it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of installing
> |> |> it is to get rid of whatever was there before.
> |> |>
> |> |> Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that
> |> |> matches your video card. This may or may not be the adapter that
> |> |> you are
> |> |> using now. Examine the materials you received with your computer
> |> |> to see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains the
> |> |> correct video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and see if
> |> |> they have an adapter for you to download. Or check the website of
> |> |> the company that made your video card.
> |> |>
> |> |> Bill Starbuck (MVP)
> |> |> .......End....of quote....
> |> |>
> |> |> Also...
> |> |> ..........Quote................
> |> |> To identify your video adapter correctly, download and run either
> |> |> the Everest or Aida32 utility, available here:
> |> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads9.html
> |> |>
> |> |> There are links to both the Personal and Enterprise versions of
> |> |> AIDA32....I
> |> |> suggest Enterprise:
> |> |>
> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/Aida32_-_Enterprise_System_Information_d183.html
> |> |>
> |> |> Everest Free Edition:
> |> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html
> |> |>
> |> |> AIDA32 is also available here:
> |> |> http://aumha.org/freeware/freeware.php#aida32
> |> |> --
> |> |> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> |> |> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> |> |> .........EOQ....................
> |> |>
> |> |> | "PCR" wrote:
> |> |> |
> |> |> |> Dan wrote:
> |> |> |> | Okay, the video drivers are fine. There may be an issue with
> |> |> |> | the sound card drivers. It is a Sound Blaster Audigy.
> |> |> |> | After, I uninstall and reinstall the sound card drivers then
> |> |> |> | I can eliminate that. Then, I will proceed to go through
> |> |> |> | PCR's suggestions. Thanks everyone for the advice so far.
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> You are welcome. Keep us informed.
> |> |>
> |> |> --
> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> |> PCR
> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> |>
> |> --
> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> PCR
> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>

 

[Dan]

Hey, no need to be rude to 98 Guy.

"MEB" wrote:

> Look limp brain, why don't you finish your hard drive discussion, what's the
> problem, can't figure it out... need some help....
>
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> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
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