Rules of Conduct for this newsgroup

[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Psychiatrist wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ftrhoe$en1$3@aioe.org...
>>>>>
>>>>>> artfudd wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a MS newsgroup regardless of how you access, and as such
>>>>>>> the rules apply.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I never agreed to them, nor was I asked to agree with them. Funny,
>>>>>> though, I can post here as much as my little heart desires.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, it is obvious some people are too immature to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> understand rules and why they exist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When will understand how to post in Usenet and not top post with a
>>>>>> sig delimiter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When will Alias understand that he is a pain in the ass and should
>>>>> go to Ubuntu and pester them?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When will you understand that you have no business telling others
>>>> what to do?
>>>
>>>
>>> You are a real vile POS for a human being!
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> I hope you feel better soon, Frank.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Oh I feel just fine thank you very much!

Then why are you lying, cursing, issuing empty threats and insults while
blustering all over the place?

> You are one vile POS for a human being.
> You will pay!
> Frank

Trust me, Frank, I have paid my dues.

Alias

 

[Adam Albright]

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 00:22:16 -0700, Donald L McDaniel
<orthocross@invalid.invalid.com> wrote:

>Adam!!! Where HAVE you BEEN???

>Perhaps folks should take Microsoft's advice before attempting to
>upgrade to or install Vista, and make sure their machines are going to
>be usable with Vista.

You mean like building a new machine from the ground up and seeing
"Vista certified" on the motherboard box and vendor's web site? Well,
that's the path I took and I still had/have endless headaches with
Vista none of which were my fault.

>Think about it: If you had troubles installing and running XP on your
>current hardware, you DEFINITELY will have troubles trying to install
>and use Vista on the same hardware.

You shouldn't jump to conclusions Don. I never had any issues with XP
when I install it years ago. None, nada on all my prior boxes.

As far as installing Vista, I was a good little boy and did all
Microsoft asked including running their moronic Vista upgrade advisor
which said everything was fine on a old box until of course I actually
started to install Vista on it then it started to nag and promptly
crashed during the install of Vista on my first try.

Microsoft has a HUGE creditability problem. They keep lying their ass
off things are "fine" when they're not.

>People like you are ALWAYS of the mindset that if Microsoft's OS does
>not work with their devices and software, Microsoft MUST make its OS
>compatible with THEIR devices and software!

All I ask of Microsoft is stopping selling consumers a line of
bullshit. I'm like millions of other pissed-off consumers that bought
the crap it was safe to upgrade to Vista. I bought only "vista
certified" components and in spite of it Microsoft dropped the ball
failing to work on components Microsoft says was "certified" for
Vista.

>It's not about "you", friend: It's about "us."
>As the old saw goes, "It takes two to tango."
>Microsoft can't help you if you won't help yourselves.
>
>Standing there shouting "Our devices won't work! Our software won't
>work! And it's all Microsoft's fault!!!" over and over will NEVER
>get them fixed.

My issues deal mostly with INTERNAL Vista failings. You know... like
file handling and the hugely stupid and unnecessary UAC. What
unabashed Microsoft fans fail to understand and paint over is Vista
out of box even with SP1, long before you install ANY third party
software or any fancy hardware has all kinds of issues for SOME users.
>
>IF they won't work with Vista, and the manufacturer won't support
>their own products, there are only two or three reasonable solutions:
>Either use an OS which WILL work with your devices, or GET RID of the
>ones which won't work, and replace them with devices and software
>which WILL.
>
>Of course, you always have the option of using another OS. Have fun,
>if that is your decision. But leave us alone, please.
>
>Stop complaining! It only wastes your time and bandwidth. DO
>SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE about your problems, folks, instead of sitting
>there shaking your fingers at Microsoft.

My advice GROW UP and realize real people some with extensive
experience like me have REAL problems and the path why leads directly
to Microsoft's doorstep. Of course Microsoft fans never understand
that. This is the place to complain. You obviously prefer to firmly
hold your hands over your eyes pretending there's nothing wrong with
Vista at all. Pathetic.

 

[x@invalid.li]

/Carey Frisch [MVP]/ said:
> Rules of conduct:

Enforcing the "rules" and ridding the group/s of off-topic posts is
simple...

MODERATE them, perhaps through rotational participation of volunteers.

No other method will succeed.

 

[kurttrail]

x wrote:

> /Carey Frisch [MVP]/ said:
>> Rules of conduct:
>
> Enforcing the "rules" and ridding the group/s of off-topic posts is
> simple...
>
> MODERATE them, perhaps through rotational participation of volunteers.
>
> No other method will succeed.

How are you gonna moderate all the USENET servers across the world that
people access this group from?

--
Peace!
Kurt
Former Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

 

[Alias]

x@invalid.li wrote:
> /Carey Frisch [MVP]/ said:
>> Rules of conduct:
>
> Enforcing the "rules" and ridding the group/s of off-topic posts is
> simple...
>
> MODERATE them, perhaps through rotational participation of volunteers.
>
> No other method will succeed.
>

No, that will only succeed in taking posts off Microsoft's servers and
will do nothing about the thousands of other servers, including Google
Groups.

Don't like a post? Use self control and don't read it or learn how to
use a kill file.

Alias

 

[Alias]

kurttrail wrote:
> x wrote:
>
>> /Carey Frisch [MVP]/ said:
>>> Rules of conduct:
>> Enforcing the "rules" and ridding the group/s of off-topic posts is
>> simple...
>>
>> MODERATE them, perhaps through rotational participation of volunteers.
>>
>> No other method will succeed.
>
> How are you gonna moderate all the USENET servers across the world that
> people access this group from?
>

He must be new to Usenet and wrongfully thinks that Microsoft controls
the Net.

Alias

 

[kurttrail]

Alias wrote:

> x@invalid.li wrote:
>> /Carey Frisch [MVP]/ said:
>>> Rules of conduct:
>>
>> Enforcing the "rules" and ridding the group/s of off-topic posts is
>> simple...
>>
>> MODERATE them, perhaps through rotational participation of volunteers.
>>
>> No other method will succeed.
>>
>>
> No, that will only succeed in taking posts off Microsoft's servers and
> will do nothing about the thousands of other servers, including Google
> Groups.
>
> Don't like a post? Use self control and don't read it or learn how to
> use a kill file.
>
> Alias

Yep, if people want to live in a glass bubble, it's up to them to build
it.

Some people don't like Free Speech, but that isn't anybody else's
problem, but their own.

Yeshua ben Yosef was supposed to have said, "And if thine eye offend
thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee," so why don't I see that many
blind Christians, since they seem to be the ones most offended by the
words of others?

I guess they found a way to say that the Bible in infallible and should
be taken literally, but hey, "Jaysus" was just joking about the eye
plucking thing. You know that "Jaysus," the Jerry Seinfeld of the first
century AD!

--
Peace!
Kurt
Former Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

 

[Earle Horton]

"Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
news:ftvulu$jh0$3@aioe.org...
> kurttrail wrote:
>> x wrote:
>>
>>> /Carey Frisch [MVP]/ said:
>>>> Rules of conduct:
>>> Enforcing the "rules" and ridding the group/s of off-topic posts is
>>> simple...
>>>
>>> MODERATE them, perhaps through rotational participation of volunteers.
>>>
>>> No other method will succeed.
>>
>> How are you gonna moderate all the USENET servers across the world that
>> people access this group from?
>>
>
> He must be new to Usenet and wrongfully thinks that Microsoft controls the
> Net.
>
> Alias

Not all "microsoft.public..." groups are as messed up as this one. I have
even got good advice from some of them. This group appears to be big and
unruly because of the amount of controversy associated with Vista. People
appear to love it or hate it. Those who love it clearly belong in some kind
of supervised care with a Nurse Ratched feeding them daily doses of
anti-psychotic medication. Those who hate it could benefit more from an
anti-anxiety drug like Xanax.

Cordialmente,

Earle

 

[Mark L. Ferguson]

IF I could accurately know who you are, and accurately know your past
conduct, I could easily decide on and effect a rule to 'moderate' you. Here
we do not, and will never know those things.
If for some reason I made a rule to 'delete on server' all posts by
'x@invalid.li' and you knew I had done it, you would be here tomorrow under
the ID of 'x.invalid.li2', berating me for trying to censor you.
Anonymity is the scourge of the internet. "Without identity, there is no
money" Money has a picture on it for a reason.
--
Mark L. Ferguson

<x@invalid.li> wrote in message
news:#lJBOLknIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> /Carey Frisch [MVP]/ said:
>> Rules of conduct:
>
> Enforcing the "rules" and ridding the group/s of off-topic posts is
> simple...
>
> MODERATE them, perhaps through rotational participation of volunteers.
>
> No other method will succeed.
>

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The fact that I do know something about Christianity made it easier
>>> not to believe in the crap.
>>
>>
>> Right, you're rationalizations only prove just how dumb you really are.
>>
>> That doesn't mean that I think that everything
>>
>>> the Bible says, or other books say, is false or no good.
>>
>>
>> You're a real fringe element loser. We all know that.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Who said I ever threw the first stone you lying son a bit*h?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not the point of the quote, clueless.
>>
>>
>> You never have a real point spot!
>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now in addition to being an admitted liar & thief and now a
>>>>>> hypocrite...WoW!
>>>>>> IOW's a real loser!
>>>>>> You'll pay as*hole...hahaha...LOL!
>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pay for what?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your sins you ignorant POS!
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Realistic people call that getting effects from causes made, some
>>> good, some bad, some not so good, some not so bad and everything in
>>> between.
>>
>>
>> "Realistic people'...yeah right...you've got a rationalization for
>> every one of your "sins' don't you...good luck on that one loser!
>>
>>> You and other clueless Christians think that Jesus died for you sins.
>>
>>
>> "Clueless"...hahahha...now that is really funny!
>>
>> LOL! What a cop out!
>>
>> No, there is no "copping out' from your sins...you will pay and you
>> know it.
>> You're just barely smart enough to out smart yourself.
>> The perfect fool...LOL!
>> Frank
>>
>
> I guess you'd better take the red pill, being as the blue one didn't work.
>
> Alias

I own you...LOL!
Frank

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Psychiatrist wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:ftrhoe$en1$3@aioe.org...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> artfudd wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is a MS newsgroup regardless of how you access, and as such
>>>>>>>> the rules apply.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I never agreed to them, nor was I asked to agree with them.
>>>>>>> Funny, though, I can post here as much as my little heart desires.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, it is obvious some people are too immature to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> understand rules and why they exist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When will understand how to post in Usenet and not top post with
>>>>>>> a sig delimiter?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When will Alias understand that he is a pain in the ass and should
>>>>>> go to Ubuntu and pester them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When will you understand that you have no business telling others
>>>>> what to do?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are a real vile POS for a human being!
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope you feel better soon, Frank.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> Oh I feel just fine thank you very much!
>
>
> Then why are you lying, cursing, issuing empty threats and insults while
> blustering all over the place?
>
>> You are one vile POS for a human being.
>> You will pay!
>> Frank
>
>
> Trust me, Frank, I have paid my dues.
>
> Alias

You will pay...LOL!
Frank

 

[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The fact that I do know something about Christianity made it easier
>>>> not to believe in the crap.
>>>
>>>
>>> Right, you're rationalizations only prove just how dumb you really are.
>>>
>>> That doesn't mean that I think that everything
>>>
>>>> the Bible says, or other books say, is false or no good.
>>>
>>>
>>> You're a real fringe element loser. We all know that.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Who said I ever threw the first stone you lying son a bit*h?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not the point of the quote, clueless.
>>>
>>>
>>> You never have a real point spot!
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now in addition to being an admitted liar & thief and now a
>>>>>>> hypocrite...WoW!
>>>>>>> IOW's a real loser!
>>>>>>> You'll pay as*hole...hahaha...LOL!
>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pay for what?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Your sins you ignorant POS!
>>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Realistic people call that getting effects from causes made, some
>>>> good, some bad, some not so good, some not so bad and everything in
>>>> between.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Realistic people'...yeah right...you've got a rationalization for
>>> every one of your "sins' don't you...good luck on that one loser!
>>>
>>>> You and other clueless Christians think that Jesus died for you sins.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Clueless"...hahahha...now that is really funny!
>>>
>>> LOL! What a cop out!
>>>
>>> No, there is no "copping out' from your sins...you will pay and you
>>> know it.
>>> You're just barely smart enough to out smart yourself.
>>> The perfect fool...LOL!
>>> Frank
>>>
>>
>> I guess you'd better take the red pill, being as the blue one didn't
>> work.
>>
>> Alias
>
> I own you...LOL!
> Frank

OK, the yellow one then.

Alias

 

[kurttrail]

Mark L. Ferguson wrote:

> Anonymity is the
> scourge of the internet. "Without identity, there is no money" Money has
> a picture on it for a reason.

Anonymity is the scourge of conformity and control.

Freedom doesn't need to know anybody's name.

Authoritarianism needs to know everybody's name.

"Papieren, bitte!"

--
Peace!
Kurt
Former Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The fact that I do know something about Christianity made it easier
>>>>> not to believe in the crap.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Right, you're rationalizations only prove just how dumb you really are.
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't mean that I think that everything
>>>>
>>>>> the Bible says, or other books say, is false or no good.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're a real fringe element loser. We all know that.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who said I ever threw the first stone you lying son a bit*h?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not the point of the quote, clueless.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You never have a real point spot!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now in addition to being an admitted liar & thief and now a
>>>>>>>> hypocrite...WoW!
>>>>>>>> IOW's a real loser!
>>>>>>>> You'll pay as*hole...hahaha...LOL!
>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pay for what?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your sins you ignorant POS!
>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Realistic people call that getting effects from causes made, some
>>>>> good, some bad, some not so good, some not so bad and everything in
>>>>> between.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Realistic people'...yeah right...you've got a rationalization for
>>>> every one of your "sins' don't you...good luck on that one loser!
>>>>
>>>>> You and other clueless Christians think that Jesus died for you sins.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Clueless"...hahahha...now that is really funny!
>>>>
>>>> LOL! What a cop out!
>>>>
>>>> No, there is no "copping out' from your sins...you will pay and you
>>>> know it.
>>>> You're just barely smart enough to out smart yourself.
>>>> The perfect fool...LOL!
>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>
>>> I guess you'd better take the red pill, being as the blue one didn't
>>> work.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> I own you...LOL!
>> Frank
>
>
> OK, the yellow one then.
>
> Alias

You're really into drugs aren't you? Is that the root cause for your
lying, spamming, trolling and bigoted ways?
Frank

 

[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The fact that I do know something about Christianity made it
>>>>>> easier not to believe in the crap.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Right, you're rationalizations only prove just how dumb you really
>>>>> are.
>>>>>
>>>>> That doesn't mean that I think that everything
>>>>>
>>>>>> the Bible says, or other books say, is false or no good.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You're a real fringe element loser. We all know that.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who said I ever threw the first stone you lying son a bit*h?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not the point of the quote, clueless.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You never have a real point spot!
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now in addition to being an admitted liar & thief and now a
>>>>>>>>> hypocrite...WoW!
>>>>>>>>> IOW's a real loser!
>>>>>>>>> You'll pay as*hole...hahaha...LOL!
>>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pay for what?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your sins you ignorant POS!
>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Realistic people call that getting effects from causes made, some
>>>>>> good, some bad, some not so good, some not so bad and everything
>>>>>> in between.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Realistic people'...yeah right...you've got a rationalization for
>>>>> every one of your "sins' don't you...good luck on that one loser!
>>>>>
>>>>>> You and other clueless Christians think that Jesus died for you sins.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Clueless"...hahahha...now that is really funny!
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL! What a cop out!
>>>>>
>>>>> No, there is no "copping out' from your sins...you will pay and you
>>>>> know it.
>>>>> You're just barely smart enough to out smart yourself.
>>>>> The perfect fool...LOL!
>>>>> Frank
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I guess you'd better take the red pill, being as the blue one didn't
>>>> work.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> I own you...LOL!
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> OK, the yellow one then.
>>
>> Alias
>
> You're really into drugs aren't you?

Not at all, although I was speaking about your meds, not recreational drugs.

> Is that the root cause for your
> lying, spamming, trolling and bigoted ways?
> Frank

I don't lie, spam, troll and I'm not a bigot. Those are figments of your
twisted and lame imagination in a pathetic attempt to cover up your faults.

Alias

 

[Donald L McDaniel]

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:01:14 -0500, Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 00:22:16 -0700, Donald L McDaniel
><orthocross@invalid.invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>Adam!!! Where HAVE you BEEN???
>
>>Perhaps folks should take Microsoft's advice before attempting to
>>upgrade to or install Vista, and make sure their machines are going to
>>be usable with Vista.
>
>You mean like building a new machine from the ground up and seeing
>"Vista certified" on the motherboard box and vendor's web site? Well,
>that's the path I took and I still had/have endless headaches with
>Vista none of which were my fault.

Instead of trusting the OEMs, why not INVESTIGATE them? After all,
THEY are the ones who PRODUCE them, and the ones who write the
DRIVERS.

>>Think about it: If you had troubles installing and running XP on your
>>current hardware, you DEFINITELY will have troubles trying to install
>>and use Vista on the same hardware.

>
>You shouldn't jump to conclusions Don. I never had any issues with XP
>when I install it years ago. None, nada on all my prior boxes.

Friend, I was speaking in generalities. If YOU took them PERSONALLY,
I am sorry. However, my comments WEREN'T aimed at you, personally.

>As far as installing Vista, I was a good little boy and did all
>Microsoft asked including running their moronic Vista upgrade advisor
>which said everything was fine on a old box until of course I actually
>started to install Vista on it then it started to nag and promptly
>crashed during the install of Vista on my first try.

Sorry, bud, but this was just not my experience. Vista simply
installed. PERIOD. In fact, this has been my experience with Vista
since the betas. NEVER a problem with installation.

]
>Microsoft has a HUGE creditability problem. They keep lying their ass
>off things are "fine" when they're not.

Hmmmm... NO comment, other than that you seem to have a HUGE trust
issue.

>>People like you are ALWAYS of the mindset that if Microsoft's OS does
>>not work with their devices and software, Microsoft MUST make its OS
>>compatible with THEIR devices and software!
>
>All I ask of Microsoft is stopping selling consumers a line of
>bullshit. I'm like millions of other pissed-off consumers that bought
>the crap it was safe to upgrade to Vista. I bought only "vista
>certified" components and in spite of it Microsoft dropped the ball
>failing to work on components Microsoft says was "certified" for
>Vista.

Why should Microsoft work on OEM device drivers? It's NOT their job
to make sure each and EVERY device driver produced by an OEM is Vista
compatible. It's the job of the OEMs. PERIOD..

>
>>It's not about "you", friend: It's about "us."
>>As the old saw goes, "It takes two to tango."
>>Microsoft can't help you if you won't help yourselves.
>>
>>Standing there shouting "Our devices won't work! Our software won't
>>work! And it's all Microsoft's fault!!!" over and over will NEVER
>>get them fixed.
>
>My issues deal mostly with INTERNAL Vista failings. You know... like
>file handling and the hugely stupid and unnecessary UAC. What
>unabashed Microsoft fans fail to understand and paint over is Vista
>out of box even with SP1, long before you install ANY third party
>software or any fancy hardware has all kinds of issues for SOME users.

IF those users DID have problems, I suggest a few things to correct
them:
1) Go back to school, and learn a little about computer basics.
2) Stop using the devices YOU want to use, and use the ones Microsoft
recommends in its Vista HCL.
3) Stop trying to TWEAK the OS so much. Accept it as it is, warts and
all.
4) Stop your INCESSANT complaining, and LISTEN to true experts, rather
than hobbyists like yourselves. Remember, its VERY HARD to LISTEN,
when your MOUTH is running all the time.

A Wise man LISTENS, while a foolish man never stops complaining.


>>IF they won't work with Vista, and the manufacturer won't support
>>their own products, there are only two or three reasonable solutions:
>>Either use an OS which WILL work with your devices, or GET RID of the
>>ones which won't work, and replace them with devices and software
>>which WILL.
>>
>>Of course, you always have the option of using another OS. Have fun,
>>if that is your decision. But leave us alone, please.
>>
>>Stop complaining! It only wastes your time and bandwidth. DO
>>SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE about your problems, folks, instead of sitting
>>there shaking your fingers at Microsoft.
>
>My advice GROW UP and realize real people some with extensive
>experience like me have REAL problems and the path why leads directly
>to Microsoft's doorstep. Of course Microsoft fans never understand
>that. This is the place to complain. You obviously prefer to firmly
>hold your hands over your eyes pretending there's nothing wrong with
>Vista at all. Pathetic.

That statement shows your obvious bias against anyone who does not
share your opinion about Vista or Microsoft, friend.

1) You assume that I am a "Microsoft fan". This is NOT the case, as
an examination of my posts over the last several years will show you.
2) The "place to complain" is NOT in a peer-user group on the Usenet.
It is to MICROSOFT, Inc. itself. While a few Microsoft employees DO
visit these forums from time to time, they do so as PRIVATE CITIZENS,
and NOT as "official" representatives of Microsoft. Your complaints
are being LOST on a bunch of folks like yourself.
3) Something tells me that you weren't even born when I started using
computers. I doubt seriously whether you have the "extensive
experience" you are trying to characterize yourself as having, else
you wouldn't have the problems you claim to be having.
4) That these people are having problems I do not doubt. Vista is a
highly-complex OS, and NOT easily handled by people whose "extensive"
experience is mostly in using a computer at work, where any problems
with the machine are handled by an over-worked Tech support person.
5) Being a HOBBYIST does NOT make one a "highly-skilled" computer
operator. In fact, from my point of view, hobbyists are the ones who
have the LEAST amount of "extensive experience". It seem that THEY
are the ones who are complaining the loudest, and mostly because of
Microsoft's anti-piracy measures.

Microsoft Windows is the ONLY ubiquitous OS around, and has been since
Windows 3.11. Countless millions of copies of Windows have been
distributed since then, with the majority of Windows users extremely
happy with the OS. Why? Because of the EASE of installation of the
OS, as well as the ability of Windows to use a LARGE number of
devices, rather than a small superset, like in OS X.

You, friend, are certainly in the MINORITY of folks having problems,
since the MAJORITY of sales of Vista have been to very happy folks,
who've had FEW problems with the OS itself, and MORE than a few
problems with software and devices which WEREN'T ready for Vista, and
STILL aren't. This is NOT Microsoft's fault. That Microsoft is
accentuating the POSITIVES of its OS is just human, and nothing YOU
wouldn't do when trying to "make a sale".

If you don't like Windows, friend, go buy an Apple.

Something tells me, though, if you DO buy an Apple, you will be one of
the FEW who are complaining about it, just as you've been one of the
FEW complaining about Windows.


Donald L McDaniel
Please reply to the correct thread and article.
================================================

 

[artfudd]

I don't post in Usenet.. and top posting is the normal and preferred method in
all MS newsgroups. But.. like I said, some are just too immature to understand
that, as you abundantly demonstrate.

BTW... even on Usenet, the standard (which is approved by Good Net-Keeping Seal
of Approval (GNKSA - see item 15 in posted url below) is to use a (two hyphens,
a space, and a return) signature delimiter so that newsgroup & email readers can
(if desired) automatically mark and remove the sig block in replies.
http://www.gnksa.org/gnksa.txt

Yes.. you *can* can post here as much as your little heart desires - the
difference is that some have the maturity and intelligence to respect others,
and some don't..

--
Art (artfudd)
-----------------------
..
"Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
news:ftrhoe$en1$3@aioe.org...
> artfudd wrote:
>> This is a MS newsgroup regardless of how you access, and as such the rules
>> apply.
>
> I never agreed to them, nor was I asked to agree with them. Funny, though, I
> can post here as much as my little heart desires.
>
> However, it is obvious some people are too immature to
>> understand rules and why they exist.
>
> When will understand how to post in Usenet and not top post with a sig
> delimiter?
>
> Alias

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The fact that I do know something about Christianity made it
>>>>>>> easier not to believe in the crap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right, you're rationalizations only prove just how dumb you really
>>>>>> are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That doesn't mean that I think that everything
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the Bible says, or other books say, is false or no good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're a real fringe element loser. We all know that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who said I ever threw the first stone you lying son a bit*h?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not the point of the quote, clueless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You never have a real point spot!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now in addition to being an admitted liar & thief and now a
>>>>>>>>>> hypocrite...WoW!
>>>>>>>>>> IOW's a real loser!
>>>>>>>>>> You'll pay as*hole...hahaha...LOL!
>>>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pay for what?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your sins you ignorant POS!
>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Realistic people call that getting effects from causes made, some
>>>>>>> good, some bad, some not so good, some not so bad and everything
>>>>>>> in between.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Realistic people'...yeah right...you've got a rationalization for
>>>>>> every one of your "sins' don't you...good luck on that one loser!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You and other clueless Christians think that Jesus died for you
>>>>>>> sins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Clueless"...hahahha...now that is really funny!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL! What a cop out!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, there is no "copping out' from your sins...you will pay and
>>>>>> you know it.
>>>>>> You're just barely smart enough to out smart yourself.
>>>>>> The perfect fool...LOL!
>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess you'd better take the red pill, being as the blue one
>>>>> didn't work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I own you...LOL!
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> OK, the yellow one then.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> You're really into drugs aren't you?
>
>
> Not at all, although I was speaking about your meds,...

My meds?...sorry sport, but I'm not on any "meds".

not recreational
> drugs.
>
So you're using recreational drugs, huh?
Figures.

>> Is that the root cause for your lying, spamming, trolling and bigoted
>> ways?
>> Frank
>
>
> I don't lie, spam, troll and I'm not a bigot.

Liar!

Those are figments of your
> twisted and lame imagination in a pathetic attempt to cover up your faults.

They're factual truths and everyone here know it.
Get some help...well...I doubt you're capable of admitting you need help.
Frank

 

[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The fact that I do know something about Christianity made it
>>>>>>>> easier not to believe in the crap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right, you're rationalizations only prove just how dumb you
>>>>>>> really are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That doesn't mean that I think that everything
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the Bible says, or other books say, is false or no good.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're a real fringe element loser. We all know that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who said I ever threw the first stone you lying son a bit*h?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not the point of the quote, clueless.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You never have a real point spot!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now in addition to being an admitted liar & thief and now a
>>>>>>>>>>> hypocrite...WoW!
>>>>>>>>>>> IOW's a real loser!
>>>>>>>>>>> You'll pay as*hole...hahaha...LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pay for what?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your sins you ignorant POS!
>>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Realistic people call that getting effects from causes made,
>>>>>>>> some good, some bad, some not so good, some not so bad and
>>>>>>>> everything in between.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Realistic people'...yeah right...you've got a rationalization
>>>>>>> for every one of your "sins' don't you...good luck on that one
>>>>>>> loser!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You and other clueless Christians think that Jesus died for you
>>>>>>>> sins.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Clueless"...hahahha...now that is really funny!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL! What a cop out!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, there is no "copping out' from your sins...you will pay and
>>>>>>> you know it.
>>>>>>> You're just barely smart enough to out smart yourself.
>>>>>>> The perfect fool...LOL!
>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess you'd better take the red pill, being as the blue one
>>>>>> didn't work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I own you...LOL!
>>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK, the yellow one then.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> You're really into drugs aren't you?
>>
>>
>> Not at all, although I was speaking about your meds,...
>
> My meds?...sorry sport, but I'm not on any "meds".
>
> not recreational
>> drugs.
>>
> So you're using recreational drugs, huh?
> Figures.
>
>>> Is that the root cause for your lying, spamming, trolling and bigoted
>>> ways?
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> I don't lie, spam, troll and I'm not a bigot.
>
> Liar!

Of course, Frank the Wank can't name one lie or show us one spam of
mine, much less prove I am a bigot. In addition, Frank the Wank keeps
claiming I'm a Mexican and therefore inferior. Frank the Wank is getting
famous for projecting.

>
> Those are figments of your
>> twisted and lame imagination in a pathetic attempt to cover up your
>> faults.
>
> They're factual truths and everyone here know it.
> Get some help...well...I doubt you're capable of admitting you need help.
> Frank

No, they are not "factual truths" (didn't they teach you about
redundancy in school, Wank?).

Alias

 

[Alias]

artfudd wrote:
> I don't post in Usenet..

LOL! Where do you think you're posting now?

> and top posting is the normal and preferred
> method in all MS newsgroups.

No, it isn't. It's done by clueless idiots like you.

> But.. like I said, some are just too
> immature to understand that, as you abundantly demonstrate.

Oh, the holier than thou argument. Get off your high moral horse and
mingle with the common folk, willya?

>
> BTW... even on Usenet, the standard (which is approved by Good
> Net-Keeping Seal of Approval (GNKSA - see item 15 in posted url below)
> is to use a (two hyphens, a space, and a return) signature delimiter so
> that newsgroup & email readers can (if desired) automatically mark and
> remove the sig block in replies.
> http://www.gnksa.org/gnksa.txt

And nuke everything else if you top post. Not good, chum.

>
> Yes.. you *can* can post here as much as your little heart desires - the
> difference is that some have the maturity and intelligence to respect
> others, and some don't..

Respect is earned, not a given.

Alias