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Got it, thanks. Sent you an old one.
Now all we have to do is compare... as if that was all that needed done...
but anyway, now I have one comparison basis from a different system..
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MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
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"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:eqtwO2RxIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| MEB wrote:
| | Hehehe, I can't send you my eyes or my mind... tell you what you,
| | send me your file, I'll send you one of the old ones 86k.. biggest I
| | have and likely the best for cross-reference.
| | Where do you want it sent? That should tell you how much you need to
| | be concerned with the friggin file...
|
| Fine, I'm sending mine now to the address you posted-- WinZip got it
| down to 4.76 KB from 92 KB! If you look at it -- you agree to post a
| thorough analysis right here within 6 years -- on penalty of your
| machine must crumble to dust if you don't!
|
| Mine is tough enough to look at-- I don't need yours! They might be
| different depending on configuration & what optionals we took.
|
| | As for what to check/parse it with,, I do them by hand though SURELY
| | someone felt the same as you and didn't want to spend that kind of
| | time and wrote something, just never bothered to check. Perhaps a
| | standard xml creator would work to break it into the proper sectional
| | order...
|
| I don't have anything like that. I guess I'll have to do it by hand. You
| are getting the original, unaltered version. Can I really move things
| around in there, even delete the failures & duplicates-- & not upset
| Windows Update? What is wrong with editing it in Explorer, instead of
| UEdit?
|
| | maybe credible XML,, again just never bothered to run it on
| | it and don't have it installed this time.... heck probably one of my
| | web tools would work, never felt compelled or lazy enough to check..
| | Besides, its a good way to remember [repeat use] xml formatting...
| | Have you ever done any RSS, RDF, site XML [like for Google], or any
| | other style of XML editing? Its a pretty common format now, used to
| | store data, references, information, location, lots of other
| | stuff.... Look at something you already have like AVAST's... I just
| | use UEdit, heck I could probably make a macro and run it,, just never
| | got around to it
| |
| | --
| | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| | --
| | _________
| |
| | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| | news:uaDmE8DxIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| || MEB wrote:
| || | HAHA, you really don't mean that right,, all your iuhist.xml shows
| || | is what WU installed and when,,, of course if your worried that
| || | somehow makes you vulnerable,,, then take a pill... then send it.
| || | Its WU's history file...period.
| ||
| || The file is mysterious. It certainly seems to have online
| || involvement, but, yea, looks like I can set IE to "work offline", &
| || the file still did work-- this time! Fine-- I'll go look for a pill.
| || In the meantime...
| ||
| || (a) What will you do with mine?
| || (b) Do you have stuff that analyses it?
| || (c) Send me something to analyse mine, then,
| || which is 93,255 bytes & tough to look at.
| ||
| || | The only way it would or could be a mess is if YOU manually edited
| || | it, its automatically created/added to by WU. And no, it doesn't
| || | need an Internet connection to work,, its only connection to the
| || | NET [supposedly] is to WU...
| ||
| || I've looked inside, but hopefully never deleted or moved any of the
| || lines. I have clicked the minus & plus signs-- is all, I think! It is
| || sloppy because...
| ||
| || (a) There are some failures. The failure reports remained inside,
| || although a later attempt resulted in a complete for the same update.
| ||
| || (b) The timestamps aren't all in order. Generally, looks like, the
| || newer dates are on top-- but there are plenty out of sequence!
| ||
| || (c) Some of the updates seem to be in the report TWICE-- & both were
| || a complete. For instance...!...
| ||
| || - <itemStatus xmlns="" timestamp="2006-06-14T19:32:42">
| || - <identity
| ||
| itemID="win98se.windows98andwindows98secondedition.ver_platform_win32_wi
| ||
| ndows.4.10.x86.en......com_microsoft.windowsmedia9-windows98me-kb917734-
| || x86-182459." name="WINDOWSMEDIA9-WINDOWS98ME-KB917734-X86-182459">
| || <publisherName>com_microsoft</publisherName>
| || <language>en</language>
| || </identity>
| || - <description hidden="0">
| || - <descriptionText>
| || <title>Security Update for Windows Media Player 9 for Windows 98
| || and Windows ME (KB917734)</title>
| || <eula href="/msdownload/update/v3/static/eula/en/eula.htm" />
| || <details href="http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=66393" />
| || </descriptionText>
| || </description>
| || - <platform name="ver_platform_win32_windows">
| || <processorArchitecture>x86</processorArchitecture>
| || <version major="4" minor="10" build="" servicePackMajor=""
| || servicePackMinor="" />
| || </platform>
| || <downloadStatus value="COMPLETE" />
| ||
| ||
| <downloadPath>h:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.WINDOWSMEDIA9-WINDOWS98ME-KB917734
| || -X86-182459</downloadPath>
| || <client>IU_Site</client>
| || <installStatus value="COMPLETE" needsReboot="0" />
| || </itemStatus>
| ||
| || - <itemStatus xmlns="" timestamp="2006-06-14T18:39:32">
| || - <identity
| ||
| itemID="win98se.windows98andwindows98secondedition.ver_platform_win32_wi
| ||
| ndows.4.10.x86.en......com_microsoft.windowsmedia9-windows98me-kb917734-
| || x86-182459." name="WINDOWSMEDIA9-WINDOWS98ME-KB917734-X86-182459">
| || <publisherName>com_microsoft</publisherName>
| || <language>en</language>
| || </identity>
| || - <description hidden="0">
| || - <descriptionText>
| || <title>Security Update for Windows Media Player 9 for Windows 98
| || and Windows ME (KB917734)</title>
| || <eula href="/msdownload/update/v3/static/eula/en/eula.htm" />
| || <details href="http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=66393" />
| || </descriptionText>
| || </description>
| || - <platform name="ver_platform_win32_windows">
| || <processorArchitecture>x86</processorArchitecture>
| || <version major="4" minor="10" build="" servicePackMajor=""
| || servicePackMinor="" />
| || </platform>
| || <downloadStatus value="COMPLETE" />
| ||
| ||
| <downloadPath>h:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.WINDOWSMEDIA9-WINDOWS98ME-KB917734
| || -X86-182459</downloadPath>
| || <client>IU_Site</client>
| ||
| || |
| || | --
| || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| || | --
| || | _________
| || |
| || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| || | news:uHBPRK7wIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| || || MEB wrote:
| || || | Thanks PCR, thought you said you had an older installation for a
| || || | check...
| || ||
| || || I have only one, fully updated installation of Win98SE.
| || ||
| || || | BTW if you could send me your old iuhist for comparison, it
| || || | would be appreciated.
| || ||
| || || I have only one IUHist.xml. It requires an internet connection to
| || || work. Are you sure mine would work on your machine? I'm not sure I
| || || want to part with it! Is it safe to have someone else look inside
| || || mine? It's a big mess, anyhow!
| || ||
| || || | I started new testing phases after the December
| || || | 2005 issues., so all iuhist [that I remembered to save] after,
| || || | have not got that in it. I'd like to compare my old ones with
| || || | yours to see what else was removed. Perhaps you may have some
| || || | other things missing which I may not have [due to several
| || || | re-installations during the final support days or before] or
| || || | overlooked..
| || || |
| || || | m_brahier at hotmail dot com
| || || |
| || || | --
| || || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| || || | --
| || || | _________
| || || |
| || || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| || || | news:enYFst5wIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| || || || MEB wrote:
| || || || | Okay, hopefully someone has an older installation that can
| || || || | verify prior WU installation to confirm that aspect. Doesn't
| || || || | PCR run an old installation?
| || || ||
| || || || JUST like for you, IUHist.xml shows 823353 came in for me from
| || || || Windows Update. I got it one day before you.
| || || ||
| || || || It is not at the Catalog for Win98 in any of the categories
| || || || (looking for 823353 or MS04-018), which finally has begun to
| || || || work again after 3 days...
| || || || http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp
| || || ||
| || || || And it wasn't among my downloads from the Catalog. So, either I
| || || || didn't look quick enough for it or it never was there.
| || || || HOWEVER...
| || || ||
| || || || http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=19527
| || || || Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018
| || || || Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express (823353)
| || || ||
| || || || ...from our IUHist.xml DOES serve to get to it. Thanks to you &
| || || || Terhune (especially for testing it)-- I took it in, just in
| || || || case I ever need to reinstall it. I took in...
| || || ||
| || || || . Microsoft Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1
| || || || IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe
| || || || Desc: Win32 Cabinet Self-Extractor
| || || || Size: 1,996,544 bytes
| || || || Ver: 6.00.2800.1168
| || || ||
| || || || I'm not sure whether the version refers to the update or the
| || || || Extractor. I DO verify that the files you mentioned are indeed
| || || || the versions I've got. Thanks again to you & Terhune.
| || || ||
| || || || | --
| || || || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| ||
| ||
| || ...snip
| || --
| || Thanks or Good Luck,
| || There may be humor in this post, and,
| || Naturally, you will not sue,
| || Should things get worse after this,
| || PCR
| || pcrrcp@netzero.net
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net
|
|
Now all we have to do is compare... as if that was all that needed done...
but anyway, now I have one comparison basis from a different system..
--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________
"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:eqtwO2RxIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| MEB wrote:
| | Hehehe, I can't send you my eyes or my mind... tell you what you,
| | send me your file, I'll send you one of the old ones 86k.. biggest I
| | have and likely the best for cross-reference.
| | Where do you want it sent? That should tell you how much you need to
| | be concerned with the friggin file...
|
| Fine, I'm sending mine now to the address you posted-- WinZip got it
| down to 4.76 KB from 92 KB! If you look at it -- you agree to post a
| thorough analysis right here within 6 years -- on penalty of your
| machine must crumble to dust if you don't!
|
| Mine is tough enough to look at-- I don't need yours! They might be
| different depending on configuration & what optionals we took.
|
| | As for what to check/parse it with,, I do them by hand though SURELY
| | someone felt the same as you and didn't want to spend that kind of
| | time and wrote something, just never bothered to check. Perhaps a
| | standard xml creator would work to break it into the proper sectional
| | order...
|
| I don't have anything like that. I guess I'll have to do it by hand. You
| are getting the original, unaltered version. Can I really move things
| around in there, even delete the failures & duplicates-- & not upset
| Windows Update? What is wrong with editing it in Explorer, instead of
| UEdit?
|
| | maybe credible XML,, again just never bothered to run it on
| | it and don't have it installed this time.... heck probably one of my
| | web tools would work, never felt compelled or lazy enough to check..
| | Besides, its a good way to remember [repeat use] xml formatting...
| | Have you ever done any RSS, RDF, site XML [like for Google], or any
| | other style of XML editing? Its a pretty common format now, used to
| | store data, references, information, location, lots of other
| | stuff.... Look at something you already have like AVAST's... I just
| | use UEdit, heck I could probably make a macro and run it,, just never
| | got around to it
| |
| | --
| | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| | --
| | _________
| |
| | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| | news:uaDmE8DxIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| || MEB wrote:
| || | HAHA, you really don't mean that right,, all your iuhist.xml shows
| || | is what WU installed and when,,, of course if your worried that
| || | somehow makes you vulnerable,,, then take a pill... then send it.
| || | Its WU's history file...period.
| ||
| || The file is mysterious. It certainly seems to have online
| || involvement, but, yea, looks like I can set IE to "work offline", &
| || the file still did work-- this time! Fine-- I'll go look for a pill.
| || In the meantime...
| ||
| || (a) What will you do with mine?
| || (b) Do you have stuff that analyses it?
| || (c) Send me something to analyse mine, then,
| || which is 93,255 bytes & tough to look at.
| ||
| || | The only way it would or could be a mess is if YOU manually edited
| || | it, its automatically created/added to by WU. And no, it doesn't
| || | need an Internet connection to work,, its only connection to the
| || | NET [supposedly] is to WU...
| ||
| || I've looked inside, but hopefully never deleted or moved any of the
| || lines. I have clicked the minus & plus signs-- is all, I think! It is
| || sloppy because...
| ||
| || (a) There are some failures. The failure reports remained inside,
| || although a later attempt resulted in a complete for the same update.
| ||
| || (b) The timestamps aren't all in order. Generally, looks like, the
| || newer dates are on top-- but there are plenty out of sequence!
| ||
| || (c) Some of the updates seem to be in the report TWICE-- & both were
| || a complete. For instance...!...
| ||
| || - <itemStatus xmlns="" timestamp="2006-06-14T19:32:42">
| || - <identity
| ||
| itemID="win98se.windows98andwindows98secondedition.ver_platform_win32_wi
| ||
| ndows.4.10.x86.en......com_microsoft.windowsmedia9-windows98me-kb917734-
| || x86-182459." name="WINDOWSMEDIA9-WINDOWS98ME-KB917734-X86-182459">
| || <publisherName>com_microsoft</publisherName>
| || <language>en</language>
| || </identity>
| || - <description hidden="0">
| || - <descriptionText>
| || <title>Security Update for Windows Media Player 9 for Windows 98
| || and Windows ME (KB917734)</title>
| || <eula href="/msdownload/update/v3/static/eula/en/eula.htm" />
| || <details href="http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=66393" />
| || </descriptionText>
| || </description>
| || - <platform name="ver_platform_win32_windows">
| || <processorArchitecture>x86</processorArchitecture>
| || <version major="4" minor="10" build="" servicePackMajor=""
| || servicePackMinor="" />
| || </platform>
| || <downloadStatus value="COMPLETE" />
| ||
| ||
| <downloadPath>h:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.WINDOWSMEDIA9-WINDOWS98ME-KB917734
| || -X86-182459</downloadPath>
| || <client>IU_Site</client>
| || <installStatus value="COMPLETE" needsReboot="0" />
| || </itemStatus>
| ||
| || - <itemStatus xmlns="" timestamp="2006-06-14T18:39:32">
| || - <identity
| ||
| itemID="win98se.windows98andwindows98secondedition.ver_platform_win32_wi
| ||
| ndows.4.10.x86.en......com_microsoft.windowsmedia9-windows98me-kb917734-
| || x86-182459." name="WINDOWSMEDIA9-WINDOWS98ME-KB917734-X86-182459">
| || <publisherName>com_microsoft</publisherName>
| || <language>en</language>
| || </identity>
| || - <description hidden="0">
| || - <descriptionText>
| || <title>Security Update for Windows Media Player 9 for Windows 98
| || and Windows ME (KB917734)</title>
| || <eula href="/msdownload/update/v3/static/eula/en/eula.htm" />
| || <details href="http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=66393" />
| || </descriptionText>
| || </description>
| || - <platform name="ver_platform_win32_windows">
| || <processorArchitecture>x86</processorArchitecture>
| || <version major="4" minor="10" build="" servicePackMajor=""
| || servicePackMinor="" />
| || </platform>
| || <downloadStatus value="COMPLETE" />
| ||
| ||
| <downloadPath>h:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.WINDOWSMEDIA9-WINDOWS98ME-KB917734
| || -X86-182459</downloadPath>
| || <client>IU_Site</client>
| ||
| || |
| || | --
| || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| || | --
| || | _________
| || |
| || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| || | news:uHBPRK7wIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| || || MEB wrote:
| || || | Thanks PCR, thought you said you had an older installation for a
| || || | check...
| || ||
| || || I have only one, fully updated installation of Win98SE.
| || ||
| || || | BTW if you could send me your old iuhist for comparison, it
| || || | would be appreciated.
| || ||
| || || I have only one IUHist.xml. It requires an internet connection to
| || || work. Are you sure mine would work on your machine? I'm not sure I
| || || want to part with it! Is it safe to have someone else look inside
| || || mine? It's a big mess, anyhow!
| || ||
| || || | I started new testing phases after the December
| || || | 2005 issues., so all iuhist [that I remembered to save] after,
| || || | have not got that in it. I'd like to compare my old ones with
| || || | yours to see what else was removed. Perhaps you may have some
| || || | other things missing which I may not have [due to several
| || || | re-installations during the final support days or before] or
| || || | overlooked..
| || || |
| || || | m_brahier at hotmail dot com
| || || |
| || || | --
| || || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| || || | --
| || || | _________
| || || |
| || || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| || || | news:enYFst5wIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| || || || MEB wrote:
| || || || | Okay, hopefully someone has an older installation that can
| || || || | verify prior WU installation to confirm that aspect. Doesn't
| || || || | PCR run an old installation?
| || || ||
| || || || JUST like for you, IUHist.xml shows 823353 came in for me from
| || || || Windows Update. I got it one day before you.
| || || ||
| || || || It is not at the Catalog for Win98 in any of the categories
| || || || (looking for 823353 or MS04-018), which finally has begun to
| || || || work again after 3 days...
| || || || http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp
| || || ||
| || || || And it wasn't among my downloads from the Catalog. So, either I
| || || || didn't look quick enough for it or it never was there.
| || || || HOWEVER...
| || || ||
| || || || http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=19527
| || || || Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018
| || || || Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express (823353)
| || || ||
| || || || ...from our IUHist.xml DOES serve to get to it. Thanks to you &
| || || || Terhune (especially for testing it)-- I took it in, just in
| || || || case I ever need to reinstall it. I took in...
| || || ||
| || || || . Microsoft Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1
| || || || IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe
| || || || Desc: Win32 Cabinet Self-Extractor
| || || || Size: 1,996,544 bytes
| || || || Ver: 6.00.2800.1168
| || || ||
| || || || I'm not sure whether the version refers to the update or the
| || || || Extractor. I DO verify that the files you mentioned are indeed
| || || || the versions I've got. Thanks again to you & Terhune.
| || || ||
| || || || | --
| || || || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| ||
| ||
| || ...snip
| || --
| || Thanks or Good Luck,
| || There may be humor in this post, and,
| || Naturally, you will not sue,
| || Should things get worse after this,
| || PCR
| || pcrrcp@netzero.net
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net
|
|