IE Running well so far

[Angel]

Gary,

It is the one you sent on the CD, "Protection Applications". When I did the
Explorer for the folder, "Spyblaster", it says "Spyblaster setup 351.exe"
Under date 9/17/06. How do I get the 4.0 version?

Angel

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:OV15eVrwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: Might want to make sure it's the latest version, 4.0, then install it.
It's
: pretty straight-forward. Requires a restart. Then run the app, and in the
: Welcome dialog, click Next, choose Manual Updating, click Next, then click
: Finish.
:
: Now, click Updates on the left column, then the Check for Updates button.
: When the updating finishes, click on Protection Status at left and then at
: the bottom, under Quick Tasks, Enable All Protection.
:
: Do that every week or two.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS-MVP Shell/User
: www.grystmill.com
:
:
: "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: news:%2310SGjqwIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > Yes Gary,
: > I found it, but I never installed it. I have to figure out the
: > instructions. I read the text but have to read it again.
: > Angel
: >
: > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > news:eg%23zpGqwIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
: > : No Gary, I do not have SypwareBlaster installed. I don't even think I
: > have
: > : it.
: > :
: > : Angel
: > :
: > : "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : news:Od9njRpwIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : : You're fine, except you left out one very important app --
: > SypwareBlaster.
: > : : You DO have that installed, don't you? And you keep it up to date?
: > : :
: > : : --
: > : : Gary S. Terhune
: > : : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : : www.grystmill.com
: > : :
: > : : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : : news:%23Fraq3owIHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
: > : : > Yeah Gary, she sure could use the exercise. Send them anytime. We
: > are
: > : : > beginning to call her "Fat Cat" instead of "Streaker". George says
: > she
: > : is
: > : : > a
: > : : > Bowling Ball with legs! She was fat when I got her. Right now, she
: > is
: > : : > sleeping on my old Contour chair. The chair does not adjust very
: > well
: > : : > anymore, most of the time it only has one position. It needs a new
: > one.
: > : I
: > : : > bought it long before I retired 16 years ago.
: > : : >
: > : : > I uninstalled the AdAware last night. So far, no problems because
I
: > : : > uninstalled it. I still have Avast! and Spybot 1.4. I have not
: > updated
: > : the
: > : : > Spybot lately. I just don't know which updates to use.
: > : : >
: > : : > Angel
: > : : >
: > : : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : : > news:%23sy$sobwIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: > : : > : I can send you a poodle or two to chase teh cat. Keep it busy.
: > : : > :
: > : : > : --
: > : : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : : > : www.grystmill.com
: > : : > :
: > : : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : : > : news:uXJrWPZwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : : > : > Yes, I already knew that it will take a while for the pain to
: > : subside.
: > : : > : > Even
: > : : > : > the pain pills don't work that well. Gary, I am prepared for
a
: > long
: > : : > hall,
: > : : > : > but you know I do not give up or in easily. You are not
: > pessimistic
: > : : > only
: > : : > : > truthful. This is no picnic, if you know what I mean.
: > : : > : >
: > : : > : > My cat is on the footstool I am trying to use. She takes up
most
: > of
: > : : > the
: > : : > : > footstool. Since I got home, she does not let me out of her
: > sight.
: > I
: > : : > : > finally
: > : : > : > got her to move off the stool. How? I picked her up and put
her
: > off.
: > : : > She
: > : : > : > did
: > : : > : > not accept that. I had to do it again. She is stubborn and
don't
: > : give
: > : : > up
: > : : > : > easily neither.
: > : : > : >
: > : : > : > Angel
: > : : > : >
: > : : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : : > : > news:eeK3b$RwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : : > : > : Sounds like you need someone who can follow instructions and
: > has
: > a
: > : : > good
: > : : > : > back
: > : : > : > : to get in there and help you rearrange things to your
comfort.
: > : After
: > : : > : > all,
: > : : > : > : these pains aren't going to go away real soon (sorry to be
: > : : > pessimistic,
: > : : > : > but
: > : : > : > : I'd rather you got comfy ASAP.)
: > : : > : > :
: > : : > : > : As for standing on one's head while standing in one's
head...
: > I
: > : used
: > : : > to
: > : : > : > do
: > : : > : > : that on a regular basis, <bg>.
: > : : > : > :
: > : : > : > : --
: > : : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : : > : > : www.grystmill.com
: > : : > : > :
: > : : > : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : : > : > : news:ucwOR8RwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
: > : : > : > : > Gary, how would that be possible! "Standing in my head"? I
: > never
: > : : > would
: > : : > : > try
: > : : > : > : > that! I don't even think I could stand ON my head not
alone
: > IN
: > : my
: > : : > : > head!!
: > : : > : > : > Have you tried it? HaHaHa!!
: > : : > : > : >
: > : : > : > : > I do use a foot stool, when I can in front of the
computer.
: > My
: > : cat
: > : : > and
: > : : > : > I
: > : : > : > : > argue over it. She decided to take it over. I also use the
: > arm
: > : of
: > : : > the
: > : : > : > : > office
: > : : > : > : > chair for my arm, it relieves the shoulder pain some.
: > : : > : > : >
: > : : > : > : > Angel
: > : : > : > : >
: > : : > : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : : > : > : > news:e0vC6MRwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : : > : > : > : Knowing Angel the way I do, I think she should try
: > standing
: > in
: > : : > her
: > : : > : > head,
: > : : > : > : > : <eg>.
: > : : > : > : > :
: > : : > : > : > : --
: > : : > : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : : > : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : : > : > : > : www.grystmill.com
: > : : > : > : > :
: > : : > : > : > : "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
: > : : > : > : > : news:483dd8cc$0$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...
: > : : > : > : > : > Angel, If you just put a ottoman or stool with pillow
or
: > : towel
: > : : > in
: > : : > : > : > front
: > : : > : > : > of
: > : : > : > : > : > you at the
: > : : > : > : > : > computer, it can work just as well as above the heart.
: > Of
: > : : > course,
: > : : > : > : > laying
: > : : > : > : > : > down with
: > : : > : > : > : > feet elevated is optimal but no one really expects you
: > to
: > do
: > : : > that.
: > : : > : > : > Sorry
: > : : > : > : > : > for your
: > : : > : > : > : > problems. Ginny R.N.
: > : : > : > : > : > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : : > : > : > : > news:%23la3KVQwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: > : : > : > : > : >> Hi Gary,
: > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : : > : > : > : >> Doing pretty good. Don't stay on the computer very
long
: > at
: > : a
: > : : > : > time.
: > : : > : > : > Still
: > : : > : > : > : >> trouble with the shoulder not cooperating. The ankle
: > swells
: > : : > up
: > : : > : > quite
: > : : > : > : > a
: > : : > : > : > : >> bit.
: > : : > : > : > : >> Supposed to keep the leg elevated above the heart to
: > keep
: > : the
: > : : > : > : > swelling
: > : : > : > : > : >> down,
: > : : > : > : > : >> yeah right! Should I stand on my head?
: > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : : > : > : > : >> When you go to yahoo! mail, you go to Options and
: > follow
: > : the
: > : : > : > : > directions
: > : : > : > : > : >> under Preferences and you get it in text and when you
: > get
: > : the
: > : : > : > mail,
: > : : > : > : > you
: > : : > : > : > : >> can
: > : : > : > : > : >> go to the bottom of the page and hit HTML or at the
top
: > of
: > : : > the
: > : : > : > email
: > : : > : > : > and
: > : : > : > : > : >> hit
: > : : > : > : > : >> the show images. EASY!
: > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : : > : > : > : >> Angel
: > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : : > : > : > : >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : : > : > : > : >> news:%23gbu8CHwIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: > : : > : > : > : >> : Hi, Angel! How ya doin'? I didn't know that about
: > Yahoo!
: > : : > Mail.
: > : : > : > : > : >> :
: > : : > : > : > : >> : --
: > : : > : > : > : >> : Gary S. Terhune
: > : : > : > : > : >> : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : : > : > : > : >> : www.grystmill.com
: > : : > : > : > : >> :
: > : : > : > : > : >> :
: > : : > : > : > : >> : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : : > : > : > : >> : news:%23IMYJiEwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > Hi all,
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > You can also use that method in the yahoo web
mail.
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > Angel
: > : : > : > : > : >> : >
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > news:OThQZYDwIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > : If you follow proper security habits, including
: > : setting
: > : : > : > email
: > : : > : > : > apps
: > : : > : > : > : >> to
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > only
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > : read messages in Plain Text, you never have to
: > worry
: > : : > about
: > : : > : > any
: > : : > : > : > : >> viruses
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > : getting in. Doesn't matter what client you use.
: > If
: > : you
: > : : > get
: > : : > : > a
: > : : > : > : > POS
: > : : > : > : > : >> HTML
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > email
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > : that can't be read in PT, and you trust the
: > source,
: > : : > then
: > : : > : > you
: > : : > : > : > can
: > : : > : > : > : >> change
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > to
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > : view in HTML (in OE, anyway.)
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > : --
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > : www.grystmill.com
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > : <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
: > news:2ooo34t082va22nc9rv0np3cr5sf9ckjhm@4ax.com...
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > I should have mentioned that Outlook Express
is
: > : very
: > : : > poor
: > : : > : > : > : >> software
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > that will allow viruses to infect your
: > computer.
: > I
: > : : > wont
: > : : > : > even
: > : : > : > : > : >> allow
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > that POS on my computer. I deleted the
entire
: > : : > directory
: > : : > : > many
: > : : > : > : > : >> years
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > ago. I'd highly recommend finding another
: > email
: > : : > software
: > : : > : > as
: > : : > : > : > well
: > : : > : > : > : >> as
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > another usenet software. (some do both, such
as
: > the
: > : : > newer
: > : : > : > : > : >> versions
: > : : > : > : > : >> of
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > Agent).
: > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
: > : : > : > : > : >> : >
: > : : > : > : > : >> : >
: > : : > : > : > : >> :
: > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : : > : > : > : >
: > : : > : > : > : >
: > : : > : > : > :
: > : : > : > : >
: > : : > : > : >
: > : : > : > :
: > : : > : >
: > : : > : >
: > : : > :
: > : : >
: > : : >
: > : :
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Google is your friend. But here's the manufacturer's links:
Info: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
Download: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
news:eLU4ZrzwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Gary,
>
> It is the one you sent on the CD, "Protection Applications". When I did
> the
> Explorer for the folder, "Spyblaster", it says "Spyblaster setup 351.exe"
> Under date 9/17/06. How do I get the 4.0 version?
>
> Angel
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:OV15eVrwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : Might want to make sure it's the latest version, 4.0, then install it.
> It's
> : pretty straight-forward. Requires a restart. Then run the app, and in
> the
> : Welcome dialog, click Next, choose Manual Updating, click Next, then
> click
> : Finish.
> :
> : Now, click Updates on the left column, then the Check for Updates
> button.
> : When the updating finishes, click on Protection Status at left and then
> at
> : the bottom, under Quick Tasks, Enable All Protection.
> :
> : Do that every week or two.
> :
> : --
> : Gary S. Terhune
> : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : www.grystmill.com
> :
> :
> : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : news:%2310SGjqwIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > Yes Gary,
> : > I found it, but I never installed it. I have to figure out the
> : > instructions. I read the text but have to read it again.
> : > Angel
> : >
> : > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > news:eg%23zpGqwIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> : > : No Gary, I do not have SypwareBlaster installed. I don't even think
> I
> : > have
> : > : it.
> : > :
> : > : Angel
> : > :
> : > : "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : news:Od9njRpwIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : : You're fine, except you left out one very important app --
> : > SypwareBlaster.
> : > : : You DO have that installed, don't you? And you keep it up to date?
> : > : :
> : > : : --
> : > : : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : : www.grystmill.com
> : > : :
> : > : : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : : news:%23Fraq3owIHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> : > : : > Yeah Gary, she sure could use the exercise. Send them anytime.
> We
> : > are
> : > : : > beginning to call her "Fat Cat" instead of "Streaker". George
> says
> : > she
> : > : is
> : > : : > a
> : > : : > Bowling Ball with legs! She was fat when I got her. Right now,
> she
> : > is
> : > : : > sleeping on my old Contour chair. The chair does not adjust very
> : > well
> : > : : > anymore, most of the time it only has one position. It needs a
> new
> : > one.
> : > : I
> : > : : > bought it long before I retired 16 years ago.
> : > : : >
> : > : : > I uninstalled the AdAware last night. So far, no problems
> because
> I
> : > : : > uninstalled it. I still have Avast! and Spybot 1.4. I have not
> : > updated
> : > : the
> : > : : > Spybot lately. I just don't know which updates to use.
> : > : : >
> : > : : > Angel
> : > : : >
> : > : : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : : > news:%23sy$sobwIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> : > : : > : I can send you a poodle or two to chase teh cat. Keep it busy.
> : > : : > :
> : > : : > : --
> : > : : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > : : > :
> : > : : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : : > : news:uXJrWPZwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : : > : > Yes, I already knew that it will take a while for the pain
> to
> : > : subside.
> : > : : > : > Even
> : > : : > : > the pain pills don't work that well. Gary, I am prepared
> for
> a
> : > long
> : > : : > hall,
> : > : : > : > but you know I do not give up or in easily. You are not
> : > pessimistic
> : > : : > only
> : > : : > : > truthful. This is no picnic, if you know what I mean.
> : > : : > : >
> : > : : > : > My cat is on the footstool I am trying to use. She takes up
> most
> : > of
> : > : : > the
> : > : : > : > footstool. Since I got home, she does not let me out of her
> : > sight.
> : > I
> : > : : > : > finally
> : > : : > : > got her to move off the stool. How? I picked her up and put
> her
> : > off.
> : > : : > She
> : > : : > : > did
> : > : : > : > not accept that. I had to do it again. She is stubborn and
> don't
> : > : give
> : > : : > up
> : > : : > : > easily neither.
> : > : : > : >
> : > : : > : > Angel
> : > : : > : >
> : > : : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : : > : > news:eeK3b$RwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : : > : > : Sounds like you need someone who can follow instructions
> and
> : > has
> : > a
> : > : : > good
> : > : : > : > back
> : > : : > : > : to get in there and help you rearrange things to your
> comfort.
> : > : After
> : > : : > : > all,
> : > : : > : > : these pains aren't going to go away real soon (sorry to be
> : > : : > pessimistic,
> : > : : > : > but
> : > : : > : > : I'd rather you got comfy ASAP.)
> : > : : > : > :
> : > : : > : > : As for standing on one's head while standing in one's
> head...
> : > I
> : > : used
> : > : : > to
> : > : : > : > do
> : > : : > : > : that on a regular basis, <bg>.
> : > : : > : > :
> : > : : > : > : --
> : > : : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : : > : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > : : > : > :
> : > : : > : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : : > : > : news:ucwOR8RwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> : > : : > : > : > Gary, how would that be possible! "Standing in my head"?
> I
> : > never
> : > : : > would
> : > : : > : > try
> : > : : > : > : > that! I don't even think I could stand ON my head not
> alone
> : > IN
> : > : my
> : > : : > : > head!!
> : > : : > : > : > Have you tried it? HaHaHa!!
> : > : : > : > : >
> : > : : > : > : > I do use a foot stool, when I can in front of the
> computer.
> : > My
> : > : cat
> : > : : > and
> : > : : > : > I
> : > : : > : > : > argue over it. She decided to take it over. I also use
> the
> : > arm
> : > : of
> : > : : > the
> : > : : > : > : > office
> : > : : > : > : > chair for my arm, it relieves the shoulder pain some.
> : > : : > : > : >
> : > : : > : > : > Angel
> : > : : > : > : >
> : > : : > : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : : > : > : > news:e0vC6MRwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : : > : > : > : Knowing Angel the way I do, I think she should try
> : > standing
> : > in
> : > : : > her
> : > : : > : > head,
> : > : : > : > : > : <eg>.
> : > : : > : > : > :
> : > : : > : > : > : --
> : > : : > : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : : > : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : : > : > : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > : : > : > : > :
> : > : : > : > : > : "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> : > : : > : > : > : news:483dd8cc$0$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> : > : : > : > : > : > Angel, If you just put a ottoman or stool with
> pillow
> or
> : > : towel
> : > : : > in
> : > : : > : > : > front
> : > : : > : > : > of
> : > : : > : > : > : > you at the
> : > : : > : > : > : > computer, it can work just as well as above the
> heart.
> : > Of
> : > : : > course,
> : > : : > : > : > laying
> : > : : > : > : > : > down with
> : > : : > : > : > : > feet elevated is optimal but no one really expects
> you
> : > to
> : > do
> : > : : > that.
> : > : : > : > : > Sorry
> : > : : > : > : > : > for your
> : > : : > : > : > : > problems. Ginny R.N.
> : > : : > : > : > : > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : : > : > : > : > news:%23la3KVQwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> : > : : > : > : > : >> Hi Gary,
> : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : : > : > : > : >> Doing pretty good. Don't stay on the computer very
> long
> : > at
> : > : a
> : > : : > : > time.
> : > : : > : > : > Still
> : > : : > : > : > : >> trouble with the shoulder not cooperating. The
> ankle
> : > swells
> : > : : > up
> : > : : > : > quite
> : > : : > : > : > a
> : > : : > : > : > : >> bit.
> : > : : > : > : > : >> Supposed to keep the leg elevated above the heart
> to
> : > keep
> : > : the
> : > : : > : > : > swelling
> : > : : > : > : > : >> down,
> : > : : > : > : > : >> yeah right! Should I stand on my head?
> : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : : > : > : > : >> When you go to yahoo! mail, you go to Options and
> : > follow
> : > : the
> : > : : > : > : > directions
> : > : : > : > : > : >> under Preferences and you get it in text and when
> you
> : > get
> : > : the
> : > : : > : > mail,
> : > : : > : > : > you
> : > : : > : > : > : >> can
> : > : : > : > : > : >> go to the bottom of the page and hit HTML or at the
> top
> : > of
> : > : : > the
> : > : : > : > email
> : > : : > : > : > and
> : > : : > : > : > : >> hit
> : > : : > : > : > : >> the show images. EASY!
> : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : : > : > : > : >> Angel
> : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : : > : > : > : >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : : > : > : > : >> news:%23gbu8CHwIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : Hi, Angel! How ya doin'? I didn't know that about
> : > Yahoo!
> : > : : > Mail.
> : > : : > : > : > : >> :
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : --
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : www.grystmill.com
> : > : : > : > : > : >> :
> : > : : > : > : > : >> :
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : news:%23IMYJiEwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > Hi all,
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > You can also use that method in the yahoo web
> mail.
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > Angel
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > news:OThQZYDwIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : If you follow proper security habits,
> including
> : > : setting
> : > : : > : > email
> : > : : > : > : > apps
> : > : : > : > : > : >> to
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > only
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : read messages in Plain Text, you never have
> to
> : > worry
> : > : : > about
> : > : : > : > any
> : > : : > : > : > : >> viruses
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : getting in. Doesn't matter what client you
> use.
> : > If
> : > : you
> : > : : > get
> : > : : > : > a
> : > : : > : > : > POS
> : > : : > : > : > : >> HTML
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > email
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : that can't be read in PT, and you trust the
> : > source,
> : > : : > then
> : > : : > : > you
> : > : : > : > : > can
> : > : : > : > : > : >> change
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > to
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : view in HTML (in OE, anyway.)
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : --
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
> : > news:2ooo34t082va22nc9rv0np3cr5sf9ckjhm@4ax.com...
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > I should have mentioned that Outlook
> Express
> is
> : > : very
> : > : : > poor
> : > : : > : > : > : >> software
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > that will allow viruses to infect your
> : > computer.
> : > I
> : > : : > wont
> : > : : > : > even
> : > : : > : > : > : >> allow
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > that POS on my computer. I deleted the
> entire
> : > : : > directory
> : > : : > : > many
> : > : : > : > : > : >> years
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > ago. I'd highly recommend finding another
> : > email
> : > : : > software
> : > : : > : > as
> : > : : > : > : > well
> : > : : > : > : > : >> as
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > another usenet software. (some do both,
> such
> as
> : > the
> : > : : > newer
> : > : : > : > : > : >> versions
> : > : : > : > : > : >> of
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > Agent).
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
> : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
> : > : : > : > : > : >> :
> : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : : > : > : > : >
> : > : : > : > : > : >
> : > : : > : > : > :
> : > : : > : > : >
> : > : : > : > : >
> : > : : > : > :
> : > : : > : >
> : > : : > : >
> : > : : > :
> : > : : >
> : > : : >
> : > : :
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
>
>

 

[MEB]

Finally had some time to look at IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU

The main files that would be apparently updated are:

6.00.2800.1441 - inetcomm.dll - via upgrade
6.00.2800.1409 - via WU

6.00.2800.1437 - msoe.dll - via update
6.00.2800.1409 - via WU

6.00.2800.1450 - wab32.dll - via update
6.00.2800.1409 - via WU

Of course that now means that we are basically recommending non-official
updating, though it IS based upon prior updates provided and installed by WU
as I posted showing the iuhist.xml.

I checked using the OE About screen, see if this is confirmed [I haven't
installed it yet as this would potentially affect present tests].

We could also use some verification of versions by others.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eDlZzcJwIHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| Sounds like the plan...
|
| I'll have to check to see if that was one of those extra needed files
that
| I had listed on the web page..if not, it will be
|
| --
| MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| --
| _________
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| news:erGCAzGwIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| | After reading the KB more closely, what KB823353 really says is that it
| does
| | is get rid of one of minor nuisance introduced by KB837009 -- like that
| | famous wandering "~" file, but also another vulnerability in IE5.5SP1.
| Other
| | than that, it apparently includes everything in KB837009. IOW, it does
| | replace the "previous" patch entirely. (I looked inside, they look
nearly
| | identical.) So what happened, probably, is that reinstalling standard
| IE6SP1
| | over whatever she already had installed (including KB823353) caused a
| mix-up
| | that had WU seeing KB837009 as required, not noting that KB823353 was
| | already present. Reinstalling KB837009 was only necessary in order to
stop
| | WU from wanting to install it (and it fails silently).
| |
| | I'm thinking that while it wasn't necessary to reinstall KB837009,
except
| to
| | stop any nagging by WU, it was a good idea to reinstall KB823353. As for
| PA
| | Bear's encounter, it sound's like that was an XP machine or it had an
| | unofficial patch installed, then reinstalled IE or something similar and
| ran
| | into the same issue, just with later versions.
| |
| | Anyway, I'm adding KB823353 to my Updates CDs just as soon as another CD
| | burning session is called for, which will be pretty soon.
| |
| | --
| | Gary S. Terhune
| | MS-MVP Shell/User
| | www.grystmill.com
| |
| | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| | news:%23WJibtEwIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| | > Agreed, makes no sense except for the issues involved with its
| | > installation.
| | >
| | > Issues related to its installation > end of support > remove it from
WU.
| | >
| | > This isn't the only file/update previously offered via WU, now
"missing
| in
| | > action".
| | >
| | > --
| | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| | > --
| | > _________
| | >
| | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| | > news:%23Jb$dmDwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| | > | Makes no sense, part deux...
| | > |
| | > | Result is that KB823353 is not considered a Critical Update and thus
| | > | shouldn't appear at WU. Yet it is listed as a replacement for
KB837009
| | > which
| | > | IS a Critical Update (and apparently for good reason.)
| | > |
| | > | The SecUp CD precedes these Updates by a good two years. Shouldn't
be
| | > any
| | > | part of the problem.
| | > |
| | > | --
| | > | Gary S. Terhune
| | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| | > | www.grystmill.com
| | > |
| | > | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| | > | news:%23OnszBDwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| | > | > Only thing I can glean from that is that I see why the switch
listed
| | > in
| | > | > that exchange I linked to didn't work: It's /n:v, not /nv.
| | > | >
| | > | > I dunno, I'm tired of it. There have been too many different
| versions
| | > of
| | > | > IE/OE installed on the machine, starting with AOHell ten years ago
| and
| | > | > ending with whatever her cable ISP installed. In any case, my test
| | > machine
| | > | > is a mess from playing with that Auto-Patcher, and yet it would
seem
| | > that
| | > | > Windows Updates is not offering the some updates that it should
be.
| | > 837009
| | > | > is the latest one for OE, and even during all the testing I did
when
| | > | > putting together the Updates packages, I never saw any of these
| later
| | > | > versions, even though they're supposed to be offered by WU.
| | > | >
| | > | > --
| | > | > Gary S. Terhune
| | > | > MS-MVP Shell/User
| | > | > www.grystmill.com
| | > | >
| | > | > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| | > | > news:uQnf5zCwIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| | > | >> 837009 is listed on this system. The only 82**** in Add/Remove I
| | > | >> presently
| | > | >> have is 823559. Its not shown in IE or iuhist either. Would this
be
| | > | >> related
| | > | >> to the SecCD usage perhaps?
| | > | >>
| | > | >> I agree, if that was, in fact, the supposed update/supercede,
then
| | > that
| | > | >> is
| | > | >> what should be offered. There were installation issues associated
| | > with
| | > | >> it,
| | > | >> so MAYBE Microsoft determined it would just delete/not offer it
or
| | > SecCD
| | > | >> somehow over-rides installation. It did, however, appear in the
old
| | > | >> installations [not SecCD updated] documented in 2006.
| | > | >>
| | > | >> Affected Software:
| | > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT® Workstation 4.0 Service Pack 6a
| | > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Service Pack 6a
| | > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Terminal Server Edition Service
| | > Pack
| | > 6
| | > | >> . Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 2, Microsoft Windows 2000
| | > Service
| | > | >> Pack
| | > | >> 3, Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
| | > | >> . Microsoft Windows XP and Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 1
| | > | >> . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Service Pack 1
| | > | >> . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Version 2003
| | > | >> . Microsoft Windows ServerT 2003
| | > | >> . Microsoft Windows Server 2003 64-Bit Edition
| | > | >> . Microsoft Windows 98, Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition (SE),
| and
| | > | >> Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition (Me) - Review the FAQ
section
| of
| | > | >> this
| | > | >> bulletin for details about these operating systems.
| | > | >>
| | > | >> INFORMATION/DATA saved for 823353 shows [02/07 and 02/16 of
2006]:
| | > | >>
| | > | >>> Answering to PA Bear, now with 887797 and 897715 missing, 823353
| is
| | > the
| | > | >> only
| | > | >>> reported update by Windows update...
| | > | >>>
| | > | >>> msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll are now 6.00.2800.1478 while wab32.dll
| is
| | > | >>> 6.00.2800.1106.
| | > | >>
| | > | >> Well, msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll have the version numbers of the
| files
| | > | >> contained in KB887797 *not* KB823353 while the wab32.dll is the
| | > version
| | > | >> coming with plain SP1 (no KB823353 nor KB887797 installed). You
| have
| | > | >> a "wonderful" mix of versions there on your machine right now :-/
| | > | >>
| | > | >> So I stress you to install KB823353 with the /n:v parameter once
| | > | >> again (IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe /n:v). Please try this one
in
| | > | >> normal mode, *not* safe mode. Afterwards please compare the
| versions
| | > | >> of the following files with the ones on your machine - yes,
*all*
| | > | >> of them! In the brackets you can find the version and date of the
| | > | >> files wich are contained in KB823353:
| | > | >>
| | > | >> directdb.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
| | > | >> inetcomm.dll (6.0.2800.1441 - 07.06.2004)
| | > | >> inetres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| | > | >> msident.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| | > | >> msimn.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| | > | >> msoe.dll (6.0.2800.1437 - 26.05.2004)
| | > | >> msoeacct.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| | > | >> msoeres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| | > | >> msoert2.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
| | > | >> oeimport.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| | > | >> oemig50.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| | > | >> oemiglib.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| | > | >> wab32.dll (6.0.2800.1450 - 24.06.2004)
| | > | >> wab.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| | > | >> wabfind.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| | > | >> wabimp.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| | > | >> wabmig.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
| | > | >>
| | > | >> Could you please afterwards open Internet Explorer, have look in
| | > | >> "? -> Info" and please post *all* what's listet there behind and
| | > | >> under the "Update Version" section? Yes *all* these "Q......"'s.
| | > | >>
| | > | >> AND:
| | > | >>
| | > | >> Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 1:39 pm
| | > | >> From: "PA Bear"
| | > | >>
| | > | >> Thanks, Freudi.
| | > | >>
| | > | >> Dimitri, here's another description of how to do what Freudi's
| asked
| | > you
| | > | >> to
| | > | >> try:
| | > | >>
| | > | >> <paste>
| | > | >> Close OE. Clear History, delete Cookies and delete Temporary
| | > Internet
| | > | >> Files
| | > | >> via IE: Tools > Options > General, then...
| | > | >>
| | > | >> 1. Download the Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6
| | > Service
| | > | >> Pack 1 (KB823353 all OSS) from the following link, saving it to
| your
| | > | >> Desktop:
| | > | >>
| | > | >>
| | >
|
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...BC-DAF0-4EAB-89B8-BD702B3E3E5D&displaylang=en
| | > | >>
| | > | >> (or http://snipurl.com/8x9i)
| | > | >>
| | > | >> [ Optional: 2. Restart the computer in Safe Mode. (During the
| | > reboot,
| | > | >> keep
| | > | >> pressing the F8 key until the Windows Startup menu appears >
Choose
| | > Safe
| | > | >> Mode > Enter.) ]
| | > | >>
| | > | >> 3. Rename the downloaded file to KB823353.EXE and copy it to C:\
| (the
| | > | >> root
| | > | >> directory of drive C assumes drive C is the boot drive)
| | > | >>
| | > | >> 4. Start > Run > (type in) C:\KB823353.EXE /N:V (Note the space)
>
| | > press
| | > | >> ENTER
| | > | >>
| | > | >> 5. Close the command window.
| | > | >>
| | > | >> 6. Reboot [into Windows] and then check in at Windows Update to
see
| | > | >> KB823353
| | > | >> is still offered.
| | > | >> </paste>
| | > | >>
| | > | >> Don't install any other OE updates, just answer #6 above and
either
| | > state
| | > | >> the current versions of MSOE.DLL and INETCOMM.DLL or post your
| reply
| | > | >> using
| | > | >> OE instead of the web interface.
| | > | >> ~PA Bear
| | > | >>
| | > | >> Ottmar Freudenberger wrote:
| | > | >> <snip>
| | > | >>> Okay, so you've skipped the steps I've mentioned after having
| | > KB823353
| | > | >>> installed? -)
| | > | >>>
| | > | >>> Uninstall them (KB887797 and KB897715) once again please.
| | > | >>>
| | > | >>> After you've unistalled them, try to install KB823353 with the
| | > parameter
| | > | >>> "/n:v".
| | > | >>> Assuming you've saved the "IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe" file
in
| | > | >>> "C:\Downloads", you would have to enter the following in "Run"
in
| | > the
| | > | >>> Start menu:
| | > | >>>
| | > | >>> C:\Downloads\IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe /n:v
| | > | >>>
| | > | >>> Note, there's a blank after the EXE and no blank in the
parameter.
| | > | >>> Let me know, if the installation of KB823353 has been successful
| | > this
| | > | >>> time
| | > | >> <snip>
| | > | >>
| | > | >>
| | > | >> Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 6:19 pm
| | > | >> From: "PA Bear"
| | > | >>
| | > | >> ActiveX controls may not load as expected in Internet Explorer
due
| to
| | > | >> defense in depth changes introduced in cumulative security update
| | > 896688
| | > | >> (MS05-052): http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909889
| | > | >>
| | > | >> A Web page that contains a custom ActiveX control may not load as
| | > | >> expected
| | > | >> in Internet Explorer due to defense in depth changes introduced
in
| | > | >> cumulative security update 896688 (MS05-052):
| | > | >> http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909738
| | > | >>
| | > | >> => The fix detailed in 909889 involving the Registry and
OLE32.DLL
| is
| | > | >> available at
| | > | >>
| | > | >> - http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip or
| | > | >>
| | > | >> - http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/kb896688_fix.zip (a small VB
app
| | > that
| | > | >> checks the 4 values and offers a repair option if any of them are
| | > | >> incorrect).
| | > | >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| | > | >> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP,
| | > DTS-L.org
| | > | >>
| | > | >>> Ralf wrote:
| | > | >>> > I'd like to let the group know that the odd behavior issue
which
| | > has
| | > | >> been
| | > | >>> > reported from various sources after installing the December
| | > Microsoft
| | > | >>> > Updates has been solved. I've posted the details on my blog at
| | > | >>> > http://www.rottmann.net .
| | > | >>> >
| | > | >>
| | > | >>
| | > | >> --
| | > | >> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| | > | >> --
| | > | >> _________
| | > | >>
| | > | >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| | > | >> news:%2361bRhCwIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| | > | >> | Oh yeah... That /nv switch didn't work when I tried it. What I
| | > don't
| | > | >> get
| | > | >> is
| | > | >> | where she got 823353, since I've yet to see it offered by
Windows
| | > | >> Updates.
| | > | >> | Thing is, KB823353 = MS04-18, whereas KB837009 = MS04-13. The
| notes
| | > in
| | > | >> | MS04-18 say that it replaces MS04-13.
| | > | >> |
| | > | >> | IOW, it would seem a failure of WU to not offer KB823353 to my
| | > system.
| | > | >> I'd
| | > | >> | be interested to know from folks: In Add/Remove Programs, do
you
| | > have
| | > | >> either
| | > | >> | of these Updates listed (or both)?
| | > | >> |
| | > | >> | --
| | > | >> | Gary S. Terhune
| | > | >> | MS-MVP Shell/User
| | > | >> | www.grystmill.com
| | > | >> |
| | > | >> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| | > | >> | news:u6qeXOCwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| | > | >> | > Frankly I'm not sure. When done with everything else [file
| | > checks,
| | > | >> | > anti-v/SpyWare, etc.] run C:\WINDOWS\QFECheck.exe and see if
| | > anything
| | > | >> is
| | > | >> | > messed up.
| | > | >> | > Might cross-check the Windows Update.log and iuhist.xml if
you
| | > used
| | > | >> | > windowsupdate during the process.
| | > | >> | >
| | > | >> | > --
| | > | >> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| | > | >> | > --
| | > | >> | > _________
| | > | >> | >
| | > | >> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| | > | >> | > news:uxvuLTBwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| | > | >> | > | Uninstalled 823353, installed 837009, reinstalled 82353.
But
| | > I'm
| | > | >> not
| | > | >> | > clear
| | > | >> | > | that that was the thing to do. We were getting blitzy, so
I'm
| | > not
| | > | >> sure.
| | > | >> | > |
| | > | >> | > | --
| | > | >> | > | Gary S. Terhune
| | > | >> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| | > | >> | > | www.grystmill.com
| | > | >> | > |
| | > | >> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| | > | >> | > | news:OE$y%23F8vIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| | > | >> | > | > Did you fix it with /N:V fix, or the reg entry, or are
| there
| | > | >> still
| | > | >> | > issues
| | > | >> | > | > with it? Just curious..
| | > | >> | > | >
| | > | >> | > | > --
| | > | >> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| | > | >> | > | > --
| | > | >> | > | > _________
| | > | >> | > | >
| | > | >> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| | > | >> | > | > news:uPntGK7vIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| | > | >> | > | > | The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1
came
| | > from,
| | > | >> and
| | > | >> | > what
| | > | >> | > | > | disappeared those three other files, but what caused
some
| | > grief
| | > | >> was
| | > | >> | > that
| | > | >> | > | > the
| | > | >> | > | > | machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were
able
| | > to
| | > | >> get
| | > | >> rid
| | > | >> | > of
| | > | >> | > | > the
| | > | >> | > | > | firewall and a couple of other things, update some
apps,
| | > | >> reinstall
| | > | >> | > IE,
| | > | >> | > | > etc.
| | > | >> | > | > | There is another firewall in the mix, on the Belkin
| router,
| | > and
| | > | >> it
| | > | >> | > seems
| | > | >> | > | > to
| | > | >> | > | > | be blocking Avast!, too. So we discovered that leaving
| Web
| | > | >> Shield
| | > | >> | > out
| | > | >> | > | > fixed
| | > | >> | > | > | the problem with Avast!, just before their tech
response,
| | > | >> though
| | > | >> it
| | > | >> | > | > doesn't
| | > | >> | > | > | explain how the no-browser-allowed problem was
occurring
| | > when
| | > | >> Avast!
| | > | >> | > was
| | > | >> | > | > | completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day,
| | > today.
| | > | >> | > | > |
| | > | >> | > | > | I suspect further malware, but the system is 98
Original
| | > and
| | > is
| | > | >> the
| | > | >> | > | > original
| | > | >> | > | > | install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink,
then
| | > this
| | > | >> cable
| | > | >> | > | > company,
| | > | >> | > | > | all with their installations of branded stuff, and the
| | > cable
| | > | >> | > company's
| | > | >> | > | > | "reach into your system and FIX things" umbilical, it's
| | > hard
| | > to
| | > | >> sort
| | > | >> | > | > stuff
| | > | >> | > | > | out. Cleaned up what was necessary to clean up (machine
| | > will
| | > be
| | > | >> | > | > replaced,
| | > | >> | > | > | soon.) Further scans need to be run and a HJT log done
| | > right.
| | > | >> | > | > |
| | > | >> | > | > | Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of
IE.
| | > Went
| | > | >> to
| | > | >> WU
| | > | >> | > and
| | > | >> | > | > got
| | > | >> | > | > | three updates, but then went back and one kept being
| | > reoffered.
| | > | >> This
| | > | >> | > was
| | > | >> | > | > the
| | > | >> | > | > | issue:
| | > | >> | > | > |
| | > | >> | >
| | > | >>
| | >
http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html
| | > | >> | > | > |
| | > | >> | > | > | More to come if I remember more...
| | > | >> | > | > |
| | > | >> | > | > | --
| | > | >> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| | > | >> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| | > | >> | > | > | www.grystmill.com
| | > | >> | > | > |
| | > | >> | > | > |
| | > | >> | > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
| | > | >> | > | > | news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...
| | > | >> | > | > | > Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking
| with
| | > me
| | > | >> | > through
| | > | >> | > | > this.
| | > | >> | > | > | > Someone
| | > | >> | > | > | > sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed
them
| | > and
| | > | >> was
| | > | >> | > able
| | > | >> | > | > to
| | > | >> | > | > | > run the
| | > | >> | > | > | > repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I
cleaned
| | > up
| | > my
| | > | >> | > startup
| | > | >> | > | > | > items with help
| | > | >> | > | > | > from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files.
I
| | > | >> download
| | > | >> | > | > IE6sp1
| | > | >> | > | > | > zip from an
| | > | >> | > | > | > e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I
| | > follow
| | > | >> your
| | > | >> | > | > advice
| | > | >> | > | > on
| | > | >> | > | > | > just about
| | > | >> | > | > | > every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we
| spent
| | > | >> about
| | > | >> 24
| | > | >> | > | > hours
| | > | >> | > | > | > just going
| | > | >> | > | > | > through this. This is my third day and we are finally
| | > fixed.
| | > | >> I
| | > | >> | > think
| | > | >> | > | > what
| | > | >> | > | > | > did it is I
| | > | >> | > | > | > removed my firewall.....'Trial of
Transgressions'....I
| | > think
| | > | >> that
| | > | >> | > was
| | > | >> | > | > the
| | > | >> | > | > | > name. and I
| | > | >> | > | > | > only use Avast resident protection (virus
| | > scanner).....not
| | > | >> web
| | > | >> | > | > protection
| | > | >> | > | > | > or e-mail.
| | > | >> | > | > | > Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.
| | > | >> | > | > | > I ran scandisk.
| | > | >> | > | > | > I did so many things it's hard to remember them all.
| When
| | > I
| | > | >> start
| | > | >> | > my
| | > | >> | > | > | > computer any
| | > | >> | > | > | > referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard
that
| I
| | > | >> never
| | > | >> had
| | > | >> | > are
| | > | >> | > | > | > gone. A few
| | > | >> | > | > | > little quirks remain such as when I try to send this
| | > e-mail,
| | > | >> I
| | > | >> | > get
| | > | >> | > an
| | > | >> | > | > | > error message
| | > | >> | > | > | > that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the
| | > outbox
| | > | >> from
| | > | >> | > now
| | > | >> | > | > on
| | > | >> | > | > | > and send
| | > | >> | > | > | > messages right away. At least I can get online!!!
| | > | >> | > | > | > thank you all.
| | > | >> | > | > | >
| | > | >> | > | > | >
| | > | >> | > | > | >
| | > | >> | > | > |
| | > | >> | > | >
| | > | >> | > | >
| | > | >> | > | >
| | > | >> | > |
| | > | >> | >
| | > | >> | >
| | > | >> |
| | > | >>
| | > | >>
| | > | >
| | > |
| | >
| | >
| |
|
|
|

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

The 1409 versions are from KB837009. The version changes you list match my
observations.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%237%23eiP0wIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Finally had some time to look at IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU
>
> The main files that would be apparently updated are:
>
> 6.00.2800.1441 - inetcomm.dll - via upgrade
> 6.00.2800.1409 - via WU
>
> 6.00.2800.1437 - msoe.dll - via update
> 6.00.2800.1409 - via WU
>
> 6.00.2800.1450 - wab32.dll - via update
> 6.00.2800.1409 - via WU
>
> Of course that now means that we are basically recommending non-official
> updating, though it IS based upon prior updates provided and installed by
> WU
> as I posted showing the iuhist.xml.
>
> I checked using the OE About screen, see if this is confirmed [I haven't
> installed it yet as this would potentially affect present tests].
>
> We could also use some verification of versions by others.
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eDlZzcJwIHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | Sounds like the plan...
> |
> | I'll have to check to see if that was one of those extra needed files
> that
> | I had listed on the web page..if not, it will be
> |
> | --
> | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | --
> | _________
> |
> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | news:erGCAzGwIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | | After reading the KB more closely, what KB823353 really says is that
> it
> | does
> | | is get rid of one of minor nuisance introduced by KB837009 -- like
> that
> | | famous wandering "~" file, but also another vulnerability in IE5.5SP1.
> | Other
> | | than that, it apparently includes everything in KB837009. IOW, it does
> | | replace the "previous" patch entirely. (I looked inside, they look
> nearly
> | | identical.) So what happened, probably, is that reinstalling standard
> | IE6SP1
> | | over whatever she already had installed (including KB823353) caused a
> | mix-up
> | | that had WU seeing KB837009 as required, not noting that KB823353 was
> | | already present. Reinstalling KB837009 was only necessary in order to
> stop
> | | WU from wanting to install it (and it fails silently).
> | |
> | | I'm thinking that while it wasn't necessary to reinstall KB837009,
> except
> | to
> | | stop any nagging by WU, it was a good idea to reinstall KB823353. As
> for
> | PA
> | | Bear's encounter, it sound's like that was an XP machine or it had an
> | | unofficial patch installed, then reinstalled IE or something similar
> and
> | ran
> | | into the same issue, just with later versions.
> | |
> | | Anyway, I'm adding KB823353 to my Updates CDs just as soon as another
> CD
> | | burning session is called for, which will be pretty soon.
> | |
> | | --
> | | Gary S. Terhune
> | | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | | www.grystmill.com
> | |
> | | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | | news:%23WJibtEwIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | | > Agreed, makes no sense except for the issues involved with its
> | | > installation.
> | | >
> | | > Issues related to its installation > end of support > remove it from
> WU.
> | | >
> | | > This isn't the only file/update previously offered via WU, now
> "missing
> | in
> | | > action".
> | | >
> | | > --
> | | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | | > --
> | | > _________
> | | >
> | | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | | > news:%23Jb$dmDwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | | > | Makes no sense, part deux...
> | | > |
> | | > | Result is that KB823353 is not considered a Critical Update and
> thus
> | | > | shouldn't appear at WU. Yet it is listed as a replacement for
> KB837009
> | | > which
> | | > | IS a Critical Update (and apparently for good reason.)
> | | > |
> | | > | The SecUp CD precedes these Updates by a good two years. Shouldn't
> be
> | | > any
> | | > | part of the problem.
> | | > |
> | | > | --
> | | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | | > | www.grystmill.com
> | | > |
> | | > | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | | > | news:%23OnszBDwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | | > | > Only thing I can glean from that is that I see why the switch
> listed
> | | > in
> | | > | > that exchange I linked to didn't work: It's /n:v, not /nv.
> | | > | >
> | | > | > I dunno, I'm tired of it. There have been too many different
> | versions
> | | > of
> | | > | > IE/OE installed on the machine, starting with AOHell ten years
> ago
> | and
> | | > | > ending with whatever her cable ISP installed. In any case, my
> test
> | | > machine
> | | > | > is a mess from playing with that Auto-Patcher, and yet it would
> seem
> | | > that
> | | > | > Windows Updates is not offering the some updates that it should
> be.
> | | > 837009
> | | > | > is the latest one for OE, and even during all the testing I did
> when
> | | > | > putting together the Updates packages, I never saw any of these
> | later
> | | > | > versions, even though they're supposed to be offered by WU.
> | | > | >
> | | > | > --
> | | > | > Gary S. Terhune
> | | > | > MS-MVP Shell/User
> | | > | > www.grystmill.com
> | | > | >
> | | > | > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | | > | > news:uQnf5zCwIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | | > | >> 837009 is listed on this system. The only 82**** in Add/Remove
> I
> | | > | >> presently
> | | > | >> have is 823559. Its not shown in IE or iuhist either. Would
> this
> be
> | | > | >> related
> | | > | >> to the SecCD usage perhaps?
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> I agree, if that was, in fact, the supposed update/supercede,
> then
> | | > that
> | | > | >> is
> | | > | >> what should be offered. There were installation issues
> associated
> | | > with
> | | > | >> it,
> | | > | >> so MAYBE Microsoft determined it would just delete/not offer it
> or
> | | > SecCD
> | | > | >> somehow over-rides installation. It did, however, appear in the
> old
> | | > | >> installations [not SecCD updated] documented in 2006.
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> Affected Software:
> | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT® Workstation 4.0 Service Pack 6a
> | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Service Pack 6a
> | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Terminal Server Edition
> Service
> | | > Pack
> | | > 6
> | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 2, Microsoft Windows 2000
> | | > Service
> | | > | >> Pack
> | | > | >> 3, Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
> | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows XP and Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 1
> | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Service Pack 1
> | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Version 2003
> | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows ServerT 2003
> | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows Server 2003 64-Bit Edition
> | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows 98, Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition
> (SE),
> | and
> | | > | >> Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition (Me) - Review the FAQ
> section
> | of
> | | > | >> this
> | | > | >> bulletin for details about these operating systems.
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> INFORMATION/DATA saved for 823353 shows [02/07 and 02/16 of
> 2006]:
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >>> Answering to PA Bear, now with 887797 and 897715 missing,
> 823353
> | is
> | | > the
> | | > | >> only
> | | > | >>> reported update by Windows update...
> | | > | >>>
> | | > | >>> msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll are now 6.00.2800.1478 while
> wab32.dll
> | is
> | | > | >>> 6.00.2800.1106.
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> Well, msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll have the version numbers of the
> | files
> | | > | >> contained in KB887797 *not* KB823353 while the wab32.dll is the
> | | > version
> | | > | >> coming with plain SP1 (no KB823353 nor KB887797 installed). You
> | have
> | | > | >> a "wonderful" mix of versions there on your machine right now
> :-/
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> So I stress you to install KB823353 with the /n:v parameter
> once
> | | > | >> again (IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe /n:v). Please try this one
> in
> | | > | >> normal mode, *not* safe mode. Afterwards please compare the
> | versions
> | | > | >> of the following files with the ones on your machine - yes,
> *all*
> | | > | >> of them! In the brackets you can find the version and date of
> the
> | | > | >> files wich are contained in KB823353:
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> directdb.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
> | | > | >> inetcomm.dll (6.0.2800.1441 - 07.06.2004)
> | | > | >> inetres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
> | | > | >> msident.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
> | | > | >> msimn.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
> | | > | >> msoe.dll (6.0.2800.1437 - 26.05.2004)
> | | > | >> msoeacct.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
> | | > | >> msoeres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
> | | > | >> msoert2.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
> | | > | >> oeimport.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
> | | > | >> oemig50.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
> | | > | >> oemiglib.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
> | | > | >> wab32.dll (6.0.2800.1450 - 24.06.2004)
> | | > | >> wab.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
> | | > | >> wabfind.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
> | | > | >> wabimp.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
> | | > | >> wabmig.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> Could you please afterwards open Internet Explorer, have look
> in
> | | > | >> "? -> Info" and please post *all* what's listet there behind
> and
> | | > | >> under the "Update Version" section? Yes *all* these
> "Q......"'s.
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> AND:
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 1:39 pm
> | | > | >> From: "PA Bear"
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> Thanks, Freudi.
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> Dimitri, here's another description of how to do what Freudi's
> | asked
> | | > you
> | | > | >> to
> | | > | >> try:
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> <paste>
> | | > | >> Close OE. Clear History, delete Cookies and delete Temporary
> | | > Internet
> | | > | >> Files
> | | > | >> via IE: Tools > Options > General, then...
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> 1. Download the Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express
> 6
> | | > Service
> | | > | >> Pack 1 (KB823353 all OSS) from the following link, saving it
> to
> | your
> | | > | >> Desktop:
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >>
> | | >
> |
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...BC-DAF0-4EAB-89B8-BD702B3E3E5D&displaylang=en
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> (or http://snipurl.com/8x9i)
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> [ Optional: 2. Restart the computer in Safe Mode. (During the
> | | > reboot,
> | | > | >> keep
> | | > | >> pressing the F8 key until the Windows Startup menu appears >
> Choose
> | | > Safe
> | | > | >> Mode > Enter.) ]
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> 3. Rename the downloaded file to KB823353.EXE and copy it to
> C:\
> | (the
> | | > | >> root
> | | > | >> directory of drive C assumes drive C is the boot drive)
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> 4. Start > Run > (type in) C:\KB823353.EXE /N:V (Note the
> space)
>>
> | | > press
> | | > | >> ENTER
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> 5. Close the command window.
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> 6. Reboot [into Windows] and then check in at Windows Update to
> see
> | | > | >> KB823353
> | | > | >> is still offered.
> | | > | >> </paste>
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> Don't install any other OE updates, just answer #6 above and
> either
> | | > state
> | | > | >> the current versions of MSOE.DLL and INETCOMM.DLL or post your
> | reply
> | | > | >> using
> | | > | >> OE instead of the web interface.
> | | > | >> ~PA Bear
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> Ottmar Freudenberger wrote:
> | | > | >> <snip>
> | | > | >>> Okay, so you've skipped the steps I've mentioned after having
> | | > KB823353
> | | > | >>> installed? -)
> | | > | >>>
> | | > | >>> Uninstall them (KB887797 and KB897715) once again please.
> | | > | >>>
> | | > | >>> After you've unistalled them, try to install KB823353 with the
> | | > parameter
> | | > | >>> "/n:v".
> | | > | >>> Assuming you've saved the "IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe"
> file
> in
> | | > | >>> "C:\Downloads", you would have to enter the following in "Run"
> in
> | | > the
> | | > | >>> Start menu:
> | | > | >>>
> | | > | >>> C:\Downloads\IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe /n:v
> | | > | >>>
> | | > | >>> Note, there's a blank after the EXE and no blank in the
> parameter.
> | | > | >>> Let me know, if the installation of KB823353 has been
> successful
> | | > this
> | | > | >>> time
> | | > | >> <snip>
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 6:19 pm
> | | > | >> From: "PA Bear"
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> ActiveX controls may not load as expected in Internet Explorer
> due
> | to
> | | > | >> defense in depth changes introduced in cumulative security
> update
> | | > 896688
> | | > | >> (MS05-052):
> http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909889
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> A Web page that contains a custom ActiveX control may not load
> as
> | | > | >> expected
> | | > | >> in Internet Explorer due to defense in depth changes introduced
> in
> | | > | >> cumulative security update 896688 (MS05-052):
> | | > | >> http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909738
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> => The fix detailed in 909889 involving the Registry and
> OLE32.DLL
> | is
> | | > | >> available at
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> - http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip or
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> - http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/kb896688_fix.zip (a small VB
> app
> | | > that
> | | > | >> checks the 4 values and offers a repair option if any of them
> are
> | | > | >> incorrect).
> | | > | >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> | | > | >> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP,
> | | > DTS-L.org
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >>> Ralf wrote:
> | | > | >>> > I'd like to let the group know that the odd behavior issue
> which
> | | > has
> | | > | >> been
> | | > | >>> > reported from various sources after installing the December
> | | > Microsoft
> | | > | >>> > Updates has been solved. I've posted the details on my blog
> at
> | | > | >>> > http://www.rottmann.net .
> | | > | >>> >
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> --
> | | > | >> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | | > | >> --
> | | > | >> _________
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | | > | >> news:%2361bRhCwIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | | > | >> | Oh yeah... That /nv switch didn't work when I tried it. What
> I
> | | > don't
> | | > | >> get
> | | > | >> is
> | | > | >> | where she got 823353, since I've yet to see it offered by
> Windows
> | | > | >> Updates.
> | | > | >> | Thing is, KB823353 = MS04-18, whereas KB837009 = MS04-13. The
> | notes
> | | > in
> | | > | >> | MS04-18 say that it replaces MS04-13.
> | | > | >> |
> | | > | >> | IOW, it would seem a failure of WU to not offer KB823353 to
> my
> | | > system.
> | | > | >> I'd
> | | > | >> | be interested to know from folks: In Add/Remove Programs, do
> you
> | | > have
> | | > | >> either
> | | > | >> | of these Updates listed (or both)?
> | | > | >> |
> | | > | >> | --
> | | > | >> | Gary S. Terhune
> | | > | >> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | | > | >> | www.grystmill.com
> | | > | >> |
> | | > | >> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | | > | >> | news:u6qeXOCwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | | > | >> | > Frankly I'm not sure. When done with everything else [file
> | | > checks,
> | | > | >> | > anti-v/SpyWare, etc.] run C:\WINDOWS\QFECheck.exe and see
> if
> | | > anything
> | | > | >> is
> | | > | >> | > messed up.
> | | > | >> | > Might cross-check the Windows Update.log and iuhist.xml if
> you
> | | > used
> | | > | >> | > windowsupdate during the process.
> | | > | >> | >
> | | > | >> | > --
> | | > | >> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | | > | >> | > --
> | | > | >> | > _________
> | | > | >> | >
> | | > | >> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | | > | >> | > news:uxvuLTBwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | | > | >> | > | Uninstalled 823353, installed 837009, reinstalled 82353.
> But
> | | > I'm
> | | > | >> not
> | | > | >> | > clear
> | | > | >> | > | that that was the thing to do. We were getting blitzy, so
> I'm
> | | > not
> | | > | >> sure.
> | | > | >> | > |
> | | > | >> | > | --
> | | > | >> | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | | > | >> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | | > | >> | > | www.grystmill.com
> | | > | >> | > |
> | | > | >> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | | > | >> | > | news:OE$y%23F8vIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | | > | >> | > | > Did you fix it with /N:V fix, or the reg entry, or are
> | there
> | | > | >> still
> | | > | >> | > issues
> | | > | >> | > | > with it? Just curious..
> | | > | >> | > | >
> | | > | >> | > | > --
> | | > | >> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | | > | >> | > | > --
> | | > | >> | > | > _________
> | | > | >> | > | >
> | | > | >> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | | > | >> | > | > news:uPntGK7vIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | | > | >> | > | > | The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1
> came
> | | > from,
> | | > | >> and
> | | > | >> | > what
> | | > | >> | > | > | disappeared those three other files, but what caused
> some
> | | > grief
> | | > | >> was
> | | > | >> | > that
> | | > | >> | > | > the
> | | > | >> | > | > | machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were
> able
> | | > to
> | | > | >> get
> | | > | >> rid
> | | > | >> | > of
> | | > | >> | > | > the
> | | > | >> | > | > | firewall and a couple of other things, update some
> apps,
> | | > | >> reinstall
> | | > | >> | > IE,
> | | > | >> | > | > etc.
> | | > | >> | > | > | There is another firewall in the mix, on the Belkin
> | router,
> | | > and
> | | > | >> it
> | | > | >> | > seems
> | | > | >> | > | > to
> | | > | >> | > | > | be blocking Avast!, too. So we discovered that
> leaving
> | Web
> | | > | >> Shield
> | | > | >> | > out
> | | > | >> | > | > fixed
> | | > | >> | > | > | the problem with Avast!, just before their tech
> response,
> | | > | >> though
> | | > | >> it
> | | > | >> | > | > doesn't
> | | > | >> | > | > | explain how the no-browser-allowed problem was
> occurring
> | | > when
> | | > | >> Avast!
> | | > | >> | > was
> | | > | >> | > | > | completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all
> day,
> | | > today.
> | | > | >> | > | > |
> | | > | >> | > | > | I suspect further malware, but the system is 98
> Original
> | | > and
> | | > is
> | | > | >> the
> | | > | >> | > | > original
> | | > | >> | > | > | install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink,
> then
> | | > this
> | | > | >> cable
> | | > | >> | > | > company,
> | | > | >> | > | > | all with their installations of branded stuff, and
> the
> | | > cable
> | | > | >> | > company's
> | | > | >> | > | > | "reach into your system and FIX things" umbilical,
> it's
> | | > hard
> | | > to
> | | > | >> sort
> | | > | >> | > | > stuff
> | | > | >> | > | > | out. Cleaned up what was necessary to clean up
> (machine
> | | > will
> | | > be
> | | > | >> | > | > replaced,
> | | > | >> | > | > | soon.) Further scans need to be run and a HJT log
> done
> | | > right.
> | | > | >> | > | > |
> | | > | >> | > | > | Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of
> IE.
> | | > Went
> | | > | >> to
> | | > | >> WU
> | | > | >> | > and
> | | > | >> | > | > got
> | | > | >> | > | > | three updates, but then went back and one kept being
> | | > reoffered.
> | | > | >> This
> | | > | >> | > was
> | | > | >> | > | > the
> | | > | >> | > | > | issue:
> | | > | >> | > | > |
> | | > | >> | >
> | | > | >>
> | | >
> http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html
> | | > | >> | > | > |
> | | > | >> | > | > | More to come if I remember more...
> | | > | >> | > | > |
> | | > | >> | > | > | --
> | | > | >> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | | > | >> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | | > | >> | > | > | www.grystmill.com
> | | > | >> | > | > |
> | | > | >> | > | > |
> | | > | >> | > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> | | > | >> | > | > | news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> | | > | >> | > | > | > Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you
> sticking
> | with
> | | > me
> | | > | >> | > through
> | | > | >> | > | > this.
> | | > | >> | > | > | > Someone
> | | > | >> | > | > | > sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed
> them
> | | > and
> | | > | >> was
> | | > | >> | > able
> | | > | >> | > | > to
> | | > | >> | > | > | > run the
> | | > | >> | > | > | > repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I
> cleaned
> | | > up
> | | > my
> | | > | >> | > startup
> | | > | >> | > | > | > items with help
> | | > | >> | > | > | > from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary
> files.
> I
> | | > | >> download
> | | > | >> | > | > IE6sp1
> | | > | >> | > | > | > zip from an
> | | > | >> | > | > | > e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall.
> I
> | | > follow
> | | > | >> your
> | | > | >> | > | > advice
> | | > | >> | > | > on
> | | > | >> | > | > | > just about
> | | > | >> | > | > | > every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we
> | spent
> | | > | >> about
> | | > | >> 24
> | | > | >> | > | > hours
> | | > | >> | > | > | > just going
> | | > | >> | > | > | > through this. This is my third day and we are
> finally
> | | > fixed.
> | | > | >> I
> | | > | >> | > think
> | | > | >> | > | > what
> | | > | >> | > | > | > did it is I
> | | > | >> | > | > | > removed my firewall.....'Trial of
> Transgressions'....I
> | | > think
> | | > | >> that
> | | > | >> | > was
> | | > | >> | > | > the
> | | > | >> | > | > | > name. and I
> | | > | >> | > | > | > only use Avast resident protection (virus
> | | > scanner).....not
> | | > | >> web
> | | > | >> | > | > protection
> | | > | >> | > | > | > or e-mail.
> | | > | >> | > | > | > Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.
> | | > | >> | > | > | > I ran scandisk.
> | | > | >> | > | > | > I did so many things it's hard to remember them
> all.
> | When
> | | > I
> | | > | >> start
> | | > | >> | > my
> | | > | >> | > | > | > computer any
> | | > | >> | > | > | > referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard
> that
> | I
> | | > | >> never
> | | > | >> had
> | | > | >> | > are
> | | > | >> | > | > | > gone. A few
> | | > | >> | > | > | > little quirks remain such as when I try to send
> this
> | | > e-mail,
> | | > | >> I
> | | > | >> | > get
> | | > | >> | > an
> | | > | >> | > | > | > error message
> | | > | >> | > | > | > that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass
> the
> | | > outbox
> | | > | >> from
> | | > | >> | > now
> | | > | >> | > | > on
> | | > | >> | > | > | > and send
> | | > | >> | > | > | > messages right away. At least I can get online!!!
> | | > | >> | > | > | > thank you all.
> | | > | >> | > | > | >
> | | > | >> | > | > | >
> | | > | >> | > | > | >
> | | > | >> | > | > |
> | | > | >> | > | >
> | | > | >> | > | >
> | | > | >> | > | >
> | | > | >> | > |
> | | > | >> | >
> | | > | >> | >
> | | > | >> |
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >>
> | | > | >
> | | > |
> | | >
> | | >
> | |
> |
> |
> |
>
>

 

[MEB]

Okay, hopefully someone has an older installation that can verify prior WU
installation to confirm that aspect. Doesn't PCR run an old installation?

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:egDoz10wIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| The 1409 versions are from KB837009. The version changes you list match my
| observations.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:%237%23eiP0wIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > Finally had some time to look at IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU
| >
| > The main files that would be apparently updated are:
| >
| > 6.00.2800.1441 - inetcomm.dll - via upgrade
| > 6.00.2800.1409 - via WU
| >
| > 6.00.2800.1437 - msoe.dll - via update
| > 6.00.2800.1409 - via WU
| >
| > 6.00.2800.1450 - wab32.dll - via update
| > 6.00.2800.1409 - via WU
| >
| > Of course that now means that we are basically recommending non-official
| > updating, though it IS based upon prior updates provided and installed
by
| > WU
| > as I posted showing the iuhist.xml.
| >
| > I checked using the OE About screen, see if this is confirmed [I haven't
| > installed it yet as this would potentially affect present tests].
| >
| > We could also use some verification of versions by others.
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
| >
| > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:eDlZzcJwIHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | Sounds like the plan...
| > |
| > | I'll have to check to see if that was one of those extra needed files
| > that
| > | I had listed on the web page..if not, it will be
| > |
| > | --
| > | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | --
| > | _________
| > |
| > | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | news:erGCAzGwIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | | After reading the KB more closely, what KB823353 really says is that
| > it
| > | does
| > | | is get rid of one of minor nuisance introduced by KB837009 -- like
| > that
| > | | famous wandering "~" file, but also another vulnerability in
IE5.5SP1.
| > | Other
| > | | than that, it apparently includes everything in KB837009. IOW, it
does
| > | | replace the "previous" patch entirely. (I looked inside, they look
| > nearly
| > | | identical.) So what happened, probably, is that reinstalling
standard
| > | IE6SP1
| > | | over whatever she already had installed (including KB823353) caused
a
| > | mix-up
| > | | that had WU seeing KB837009 as required, not noting that KB823353
was
| > | | already present. Reinstalling KB837009 was only necessary in order
to
| > stop
| > | | WU from wanting to install it (and it fails silently).
| > | |
| > | | I'm thinking that while it wasn't necessary to reinstall KB837009,
| > except
| > | to
| > | | stop any nagging by WU, it was a good idea to reinstall KB823353. As
| > for
| > | PA
| > | | Bear's encounter, it sound's like that was an XP machine or it had
an
| > | | unofficial patch installed, then reinstalled IE or something similar
| > and
| > | ran
| > | | into the same issue, just with later versions.
| > | |
| > | | Anyway, I'm adding KB823353 to my Updates CDs just as soon as
another
| > CD
| > | | burning session is called for, which will be pretty soon.
| > | |
| > | | --
| > | | Gary S. Terhune
| > | | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | | www.grystmill.com
| > | |
| > | | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | | news:%23WJibtEwIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | | > Agreed, makes no sense except for the issues involved with its
| > | | > installation.
| > | | >
| > | | > Issues related to its installation > end of support > remove it
from
| > WU.
| > | | >
| > | | > This isn't the only file/update previously offered via WU, now
| > "missing
| > | in
| > | | > action".
| > | | >
| > | | > --
| > | | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | | > --
| > | | > _________
| > | | >
| > | | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | | > news:%23Jb$dmDwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | | > | Makes no sense, part deux...
| > | | > |
| > | | > | Result is that KB823353 is not considered a Critical Update and
| > thus
| > | | > | shouldn't appear at WU. Yet it is listed as a replacement for
| > KB837009
| > | | > which
| > | | > | IS a Critical Update (and apparently for good reason.)
| > | | > |
| > | | > | The SecUp CD precedes these Updates by a good two years.
Shouldn't
| > be
| > | | > any
| > | | > | part of the problem.
| > | | > |
| > | | > | --
| > | | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | | > | www.grystmill.com
| > | | > |
| > | | > | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | | > | news:%23OnszBDwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > | | > | > Only thing I can glean from that is that I see why the switch
| > listed
| > | | > in
| > | | > | > that exchange I linked to didn't work: It's /n:v, not /nv.
| > | | > | >
| > | | > | > I dunno, I'm tired of it. There have been too many different
| > | versions
| > | | > of
| > | | > | > IE/OE installed on the machine, starting with AOHell ten years
| > ago
| > | and
| > | | > | > ending with whatever her cable ISP installed. In any case, my
| > test
| > | | > machine
| > | | > | > is a mess from playing with that Auto-Patcher, and yet it
would
| > seem
| > | | > that
| > | | > | > Windows Updates is not offering the some updates that it
should
| > be.
| > | | > 837009
| > | | > | > is the latest one for OE, and even during all the testing I
did
| > when
| > | | > | > putting together the Updates packages, I never saw any of
these
| > | later
| > | | > | > versions, even though they're supposed to be offered by WU.
| > | | > | >
| > | | > | > --
| > | | > | > Gary S. Terhune
| > | | > | > MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | | > | > www.grystmill.com
| > | | > | >
| > | | > | > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | | > | > news:uQnf5zCwIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | | > | >> 837009 is listed on this system. The only 82**** in
Add/Remove
| > I
| > | | > | >> presently
| > | | > | >> have is 823559. Its not shown in IE or iuhist either. Would
| > this
| > be
| > | | > | >> related
| > | | > | >> to the SecCD usage perhaps?
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> I agree, if that was, in fact, the supposed update/supercede,
| > then
| > | | > that
| > | | > | >> is
| > | | > | >> what should be offered. There were installation issues
| > associated
| > | | > with
| > | | > | >> it,
| > | | > | >> so MAYBE Microsoft determined it would just delete/not offer
it
| > or
| > | | > SecCD
| > | | > | >> somehow over-rides installation. It did, however, appear in
the
| > old
| > | | > | >> installations [not SecCD updated] documented in 2006.
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> Affected Software:
| > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT® Workstation 4.0 Service Pack 6a
| > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Service Pack 6a
| > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Terminal Server Edition
| > Service
| > | | > Pack
| > | | > 6
| > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 2, Microsoft Windows
2000
| > | | > Service
| > | | > | >> Pack
| > | | > | >> 3, Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
| > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows XP and Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack
1
| > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Service Pack 1
| > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Version 2003
| > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows ServerT 2003
| > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows Server 2003 64-Bit Edition
| > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows 98, Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition
| > (SE),
| > | and
| > | | > | >> Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition (Me) - Review the FAQ
| > section
| > | of
| > | | > | >> this
| > | | > | >> bulletin for details about these operating systems.
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> INFORMATION/DATA saved for 823353 shows [02/07 and 02/16 of
| > 2006]:
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >>> Answering to PA Bear, now with 887797 and 897715 missing,
| > 823353
| > | is
| > | | > the
| > | | > | >> only
| > | | > | >>> reported update by Windows update...
| > | | > | >>>
| > | | > | >>> msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll are now 6.00.2800.1478 while
| > wab32.dll
| > | is
| > | | > | >>> 6.00.2800.1106.
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> Well, msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll have the version numbers of
the
| > | files
| > | | > | >> contained in KB887797 *not* KB823353 while the wab32.dll is
the
| > | | > version
| > | | > | >> coming with plain SP1 (no KB823353 nor KB887797 installed).
You
| > | have
| > | | > | >> a "wonderful" mix of versions there on your machine right now
| > :-/
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> So I stress you to install KB823353 with the /n:v parameter
| > once
| > | | > | >> again (IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe /n:v). Please try this
one
| > in
| > | | > | >> normal mode, *not* safe mode. Afterwards please compare the
| > | versions
| > | | > | >> of the following files with the ones on your machine - yes,
| > *all*
| > | | > | >> of them! In the brackets you can find the version and date of
| > the
| > | | > | >> files wich are contained in KB823353:
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> directdb.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
| > | | > | >> inetcomm.dll (6.0.2800.1441 - 07.06.2004)
| > | | > | >> inetres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > | | > | >> msident.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > | | > | >> msimn.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > | | > | >> msoe.dll (6.0.2800.1437 - 26.05.2004)
| > | | > | >> msoeacct.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > | | > | >> msoeres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > | | > | >> msoert2.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
| > | | > | >> oeimport.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > | | > | >> oemig50.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > | | > | >> oemiglib.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > | | > | >> wab32.dll (6.0.2800.1450 - 24.06.2004)
| > | | > | >> wab.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > | | > | >> wabfind.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > | | > | >> wabimp.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > | | > | >> wabmig.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> Could you please afterwards open Internet Explorer, have look
| > in
| > | | > | >> "? -> Info" and please post *all* what's listet there behind
| > and
| > | | > | >> under the "Update Version" section? Yes *all* these
| > "Q......"'s.
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> AND:
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 1:39 pm
| > | | > | >> From: "PA Bear"
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> Thanks, Freudi.
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> Dimitri, here's another description of how to do what
Freudi's
| > | asked
| > | | > you
| > | | > | >> to
| > | | > | >> try:
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> <paste>
| > | | > | >> Close OE. Clear History, delete Cookies and delete Temporary
| > | | > Internet
| > | | > | >> Files
| > | | > | >> via IE: Tools > Options > General, then...
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> 1. Download the Cumulative Security Update for Outlook
Express
| > 6
| > | | > Service
| > | | > | >> Pack 1 (KB823353 all OSS) from the following link, saving it
| > to
| > | your
| > | | > | >> Desktop:
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >>
| > | | >
| > |
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...BC-DAF0-4EAB-89B8-BD702B3E3E5D&displaylang=en
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> (or http://snipurl.com/8x9i)
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> [ Optional: 2. Restart the computer in Safe Mode. (During
the
| > | | > reboot,
| > | | > | >> keep
| > | | > | >> pressing the F8 key until the Windows Startup menu appears >
| > Choose
| > | | > Safe
| > | | > | >> Mode > Enter.) ]
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> 3. Rename the downloaded file to KB823353.EXE and copy it to
| > C:\
| > | (the
| > | | > | >> root
| > | | > | >> directory of drive C assumes drive C is the boot drive)
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> 4. Start > Run > (type in) C:\KB823353.EXE /N:V (Note the
| > space)
| >>
| > | | > press
| > | | > | >> ENTER
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> 5. Close the command window.
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> 6. Reboot [into Windows] and then check in at Windows Update
to
| > see
| > | | > | >> KB823353
| > | | > | >> is still offered.
| > | | > | >> </paste>
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> Don't install any other OE updates, just answer #6 above and
| > either
| > | | > state
| > | | > | >> the current versions of MSOE.DLL and INETCOMM.DLL or post
your
| > | reply
| > | | > | >> using
| > | | > | >> OE instead of the web interface.
| > | | > | >> ~PA Bear
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> Ottmar Freudenberger wrote:
| > | | > | >> <snip>
| > | | > | >>> Okay, so you've skipped the steps I've mentioned after
having
| > | | > KB823353
| > | | > | >>> installed? -)
| > | | > | >>>
| > | | > | >>> Uninstall them (KB887797 and KB897715) once again please.
| > | | > | >>>
| > | | > | >>> After you've unistalled them, try to install KB823353 with
the
| > | | > parameter
| > | | > | >>> "/n:v".
| > | | > | >>> Assuming you've saved the "IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe"
| > file
| > in
| > | | > | >>> "C:\Downloads", you would have to enter the following in
"Run"
| > in
| > | | > the
| > | | > | >>> Start menu:
| > | | > | >>>
| > | | > | >>> C:\Downloads\IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe /n:v
| > | | > | >>>
| > | | > | >>> Note, there's a blank after the EXE and no blank in the
| > parameter.
| > | | > | >>> Let me know, if the installation of KB823353 has been
| > successful
| > | | > this
| > | | > | >>> time
| > | | > | >> <snip>
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 6:19 pm
| > | | > | >> From: "PA Bear"
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> ActiveX controls may not load as expected in Internet
Explorer
| > due
| > | to
| > | | > | >> defense in depth changes introduced in cumulative security
| > update
| > | | > 896688
| > | | > | >> (MS05-052):
| > http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909889
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> A Web page that contains a custom ActiveX control may not
load
| > as
| > | | > | >> expected
| > | | > | >> in Internet Explorer due to defense in depth changes
introduced
| > in
| > | | > | >> cumulative security update 896688 (MS05-052):
| > | | > | >> http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909738
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> => The fix detailed in 909889 involving the Registry and
| > OLE32.DLL
| > | is
| > | | > | >> available at
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> - http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip or
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> - http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/kb896688_fix.zip (a small
VB
| > app
| > | | > that
| > | | > | >> checks the 4 values and offers a repair option if any of them
| > are
| > | | > | >> incorrect).
| > | | > | >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| > | | > | >> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP,
| > | | > DTS-L.org
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >>> Ralf wrote:
| > | | > | >>> > I'd like to let the group know that the odd behavior issue
| > which
| > | | > has
| > | | > | >> been
| > | | > | >>> > reported from various sources after installing the
December
| > | | > Microsoft
| > | | > | >>> > Updates has been solved. I've posted the details on my
blog
| > at
| > | | > | >>> > http://www.rottmann.net .
| > | | > | >>> >
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> --
| > | | > | >> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | | > | >> --
| > | | > | >> _________
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | | > | >> news:%2361bRhCwIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | | > | >> | Oh yeah... That /nv switch didn't work when I tried it.
What
| > I
| > | | > don't
| > | | > | >> get
| > | | > | >> is
| > | | > | >> | where she got 823353, since I've yet to see it offered by
| > Windows
| > | | > | >> Updates.
| > | | > | >> | Thing is, KB823353 = MS04-18, whereas KB837009 = MS04-13.
The
| > | notes
| > | | > in
| > | | > | >> | MS04-18 say that it replaces MS04-13.
| > | | > | >> |
| > | | > | >> | IOW, it would seem a failure of WU to not offer KB823353 to
| > my
| > | | > system.
| > | | > | >> I'd
| > | | > | >> | be interested to know from folks: In Add/Remove Programs,
do
| > you
| > | | > have
| > | | > | >> either
| > | | > | >> | of these Updates listed (or both)?
| > | | > | >> |
| > | | > | >> | --
| > | | > | >> | Gary S. Terhune
| > | | > | >> | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | | > | >> | www.grystmill.com
| > | | > | >> |
| > | | > | >> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | | > | >> | news:u6qeXOCwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | | > | >> | > Frankly I'm not sure. When done with everything else
[file
| > | | > checks,
| > | | > | >> | > anti-v/SpyWare, etc.] run C:\WINDOWS\QFECheck.exe and see
| > if
| > | | > anything
| > | | > | >> is
| > | | > | >> | > messed up.
| > | | > | >> | > Might cross-check the Windows Update.log and iuhist.xml
if
| > you
| > | | > used
| > | | > | >> | > windowsupdate during the process.
| > | | > | >> | >
| > | | > | >> | > --
| > | | > | >> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | | > | >> | > --
| > | | > | >> | > _________
| > | | > | >> | >
| > | | > | >> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | | > | >> | > news:uxvuLTBwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | | > | >> | > | Uninstalled 823353, installed 837009, reinstalled
82353.
| > But
| > | | > I'm
| > | | > | >> not
| > | | > | >> | > clear
| > | | > | >> | > | that that was the thing to do. We were getting blitzy,
so
| > I'm
| > | | > not
| > | | > | >> sure.
| > | | > | >> | > |
| > | | > | >> | > | --
| > | | > | >> | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | | > | >> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | | > | >> | > | www.grystmill.com
| > | | > | >> | > |
| > | | > | >> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | | > | >> | > | news:OE$y%23F8vIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | | > | >> | > | > Did you fix it with /N:V fix, or the reg entry, or
are
| > | there
| > | | > | >> still
| > | | > | >> | > issues
| > | | > | >> | > | > with it? Just curious..
| > | | > | >> | > | >
| > | | > | >> | > | > --
| > | | > | >> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | | > | >> | > | > --
| > | | > | >> | > | > _________
| > | | > | >> | > | >
| > | | > | >> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | | > | >> | > | > news:uPntGK7vIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | | > | >> | > | > | The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1
| > came
| > | | > from,
| > | | > | >> and
| > | | > | >> | > what
| > | | > | >> | > | > | disappeared those three other files, but what
caused
| > some
| > | | > grief
| > | | > | >> was
| > | | > | >> | > that
| > | | > | >> | > | > the
| > | | > | >> | > | > | machine was out of disk space. So we made some,
were
| > able
| > | | > to
| > | | > | >> get
| > | | > | >> rid
| > | | > | >> | > of
| > | | > | >> | > | > the
| > | | > | >> | > | > | firewall and a couple of other things, update some
| > apps,
| > | | > | >> reinstall
| > | | > | >> | > IE,
| > | | > | >> | > | > etc.
| > | | > | >> | > | > | There is another firewall in the mix, on the Belkin
| > | router,
| > | | > and
| > | | > | >> it
| > | | > | >> | > seems
| > | | > | >> | > | > to
| > | | > | >> | > | > | be blocking Avast!, too. So we discovered that
| > leaving
| > | Web
| > | | > | >> Shield
| > | | > | >> | > out
| > | | > | >> | > | > fixed
| > | | > | >> | > | > | the problem with Avast!, just before their tech
| > response,
| > | | > | >> though
| > | | > | >> it
| > | | > | >> | > | > doesn't
| > | | > | >> | > | > | explain how the no-browser-allowed problem was
| > occurring
| > | | > when
| > | | > | >> Avast!
| > | | > | >> | > was
| > | | > | >> | > | > | completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all
| > day,
| > | | > today.
| > | | > | >> | > | > |
| > | | > | >> | > | > | I suspect further malware, but the system is 98
| > Original
| > | | > and
| > | | > is
| > | | > | >> the
| > | | > | >> | > | > original
| > | | > | >> | > | > | install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink,
| > then
| > | | > this
| > | | > | >> cable
| > | | > | >> | > | > company,
| > | | > | >> | > | > | all with their installations of branded stuff, and
| > the
| > | | > cable
| > | | > | >> | > company's
| > | | > | >> | > | > | "reach into your system and FIX things" umbilical,
| > it's
| > | | > hard
| > | | > to
| > | | > | >> sort
| > | | > | >> | > | > stuff
| > | | > | >> | > | > | out. Cleaned up what was necessary to clean up
| > (machine
| > | | > will
| > | | > be
| > | | > | >> | > | > replaced,
| > | | > | >> | > | > | soon.) Further scans need to be run and a HJT log
| > done
| > | | > right.
| > | | > | >> | > | > |
| > | | > | >> | > | > | Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall
of
| > IE.
| > | | > Went
| > | | > | >> to
| > | | > | >> WU
| > | | > | >> | > and
| > | | > | >> | > | > got
| > | | > | >> | > | > | three updates, but then went back and one kept
being
| > | | > reoffered.
| > | | > | >> This
| > | | > | >> | > was
| > | | > | >> | > | > the
| > | | > | >> | > | > | issue:
| > | | > | >> | > | > |
| > | | > | >> | >
| > | | > | >>
| > | | >
| > http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html
| > | | > | >> | > | > |
| > | | > | >> | > | > | More to come if I remember more...
| > | | > | >> | > | > |
| > | | > | >> | > | > | --
| > | | > | >> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | | > | >> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | | > | >> | > | > | www.grystmill.com
| > | | > | >> | > | > |
| > | | > | >> | > | > |
| > | | > | >> | > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
| > | | > | >> | > | > | news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you
| > sticking
| > | with
| > | | > me
| > | | > | >> | > through
| > | | > | >> | > | > this.
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > Someone
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I
installed
| > them
| > | | > and
| > | | > | >> was
| > | | > | >> | > able
| > | | > | >> | > | > to
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > run the
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I
| > cleaned
| > | | > up
| > | | > my
| > | | > | >> | > startup
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > items with help
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary
| > files.
| > I
| > | | > | >> download
| > | | > | >> | > | > IE6sp1
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > zip from an
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > e-mail and Gary walked my through the
overinstall.
| > I
| > | | > follow
| > | | > | >> your
| > | | > | >> | > | > advice
| > | | > | >> | > | > on
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > just about
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > every post. Forgive me for not answering all but
we
| > | spent
| > | | > | >> about
| > | | > | >> 24
| > | | > | >> | > | > hours
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > just going
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > through this. This is my third day and we are
| > finally
| > | | > fixed.
| > | | > | >> I
| > | | > | >> | > think
| > | | > | >> | > | > what
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > did it is I
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > removed my firewall.....'Trial of
| > Transgressions'....I
| > | | > think
| > | | > | >> that
| > | | > | >> | > was
| > | | > | >> | > | > the
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > name. and I
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > only use Avast resident protection (virus
| > | | > scanner).....not
| > | | > | >> web
| > | | > | >> | > | > protection
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > or e-mail.
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > I ran scandisk.
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > I did so many things it's hard to remember them
| > all.
| > | When
| > | | > I
| > | | > | >> start
| > | | > | >> | > my
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > computer any
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard
| > that
| > | I
| > | | > | >> never
| > | | > | >> had
| > | | > | >> | > are
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > gone. A few
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > little quirks remain such as when I try to send
| > this
| > | | > e-mail,
| > | | > | >> I
| > | | > | >> | > get
| > | | > | >> | > an
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > error message
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass
| > the
| > | | > outbox
| > | | > | >> from
| > | | > | >> | > now
| > | | > | >> | > | > on
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > and send
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > messages right away. At least I can get online!!!
| > | | > | >> | > | > | > thank you all.
| > | | > | >> | > | > | >
| > | | > | >> | > | > | >
| > | | > | >> | > | > | >
| > | | > | >> | > | > |
| > | | > | >> | > | >
| > | | > | >> | > | >
| > | | > | >> | > | >
| > | | > | >> | > |
| > | | > | >> | >
| > | | > | >> | >
| > | | > | >> |
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >>
| > | | > | >
| > | | > |
| > | | >
| > | | >
| > | |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|

 

[PCR]

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| As I said in the email, you need to train the firewall (or get one
| that is more user friendly.) As I am not familiar with these things,
| I suggest you start a new thread asking for help with Sygate and/or
| recommendations for something easier to use.

For that kind of thing, Kerio Personal Firewall is quite good. It puts
up a requestor saying an app's signature has changed & asking whether to
allow it access to the NET...!...

http://www.dslreports.com/faq/security/2.5.1.+Kerio+and+pre-v3.0+Tiny+PFW
Suggested to me by Dundat, this little app is the cat's meow of
Firewalls. Well, it's the only I've ever tried, but it seems to have it
all & hasn't crashed yet. Free for personal use.

http://www.321download.com/LastFreeware/page7.html#Kerio Personal Firewall
That also is it.

It's really usable out of the box (says glee-- & I guess it was), BUT...

www.geocities.com/yosponge
This site will show you every last little thing you can do with it.
Don't get confused with all the possibilities, though.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/ip.htm
What a packet looks like.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/about/ac123/ac114/about_cisco_packet_magazine.html
Packet Magazine.

http://www.linuxsecurity.com/resource_files/firewalls/firewall-seen.html
FAQ: Firewall Forensics (What am I seeing?) ...by Robert Graham

Other links to study...

http://www.dslreports.com/faq/security/2.5.1.+Kerio+and+pre-v3.0+Tiny

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6642367~root=kerio~mode=flat

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8023708

Thanks to Blanton, Gedye, BoB, glee, gram pappy & others for those URLs.

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
| news:483d706f$0$11621$607ed4bc@cv.net...
|> Good morning. Since I installed Sygate, every time I go to one of my
|> OE accounts, or
|> a IE page it wants to install new dlls or it won't let me go there.
|> I will try to
|> stop Sygate and see what happens. Is this a normal thing since I
|> used the IE6sp1
|> installer? Should I allow all these dlls (much more than I posted
|> last night.
|> So in summary, my computer works but only if I let it add a LOT of
|> dlls. Ginny
|>
|> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
|> news:483d0f58$0$25057$607ed4bc@cv.net...
|>>
|>> I repaired the C.A.spam blocker instead of removing it. I downloaded
|>> Sygate5.5.2577
|>> as 5.6.2808 doesn't support Win 98se.
|>> After installation it said IE was loading a new dll for Avast, so I
|>> said o.k. but I
|>> didn't write it down.
|>>
|>> Then it said IE is loading new dll.....C:\WINDOWS\System
|>> MFC42LOC.DLL FILE VERSION: 6.002800.1106
|>> FILE I.E.
|>> PROCESS ID FF872F29
|>> (heximal)4287049513 (decimal)
|>> TCP t
|>> (This happened when I opened Internet Explorer)
|>> Then when I opened Outlook Express Mail I got this :
|>>
|>> A new DLL has been loaded to Outlook Express. This is common if you
|>> have updated
|> O.E.
|>> lately. (because of firewall)
|>>
|>> The new DLLs have been loaded:
|>>
|>> C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\PROOF\MSSPELL3.DLL
|>>
|>> To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab under the
|>> Tools, Options
|> menu.
|>>
|>> File Version : 6.00.2800.1123
|>>
|>> File Description : Outlook Express
|>>
|>> File Path : C:\Program Files\Outlook
|>> Express\msimn.exe
|>>
|>> Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5 (Heximal)
|>> 4294501077 (Decimal)
|>>
|>> Connection origin : local initiated
|>>
|>> Protocol : TCP
|>>
|>> Local Address : 192.168.2.3
|>>
|>> Local Port : 1094
|>>
|>> Remote Name : mail.optonline.net
|>>
|>> Remote Address : 167.206.5.250
|>>
|>> Remote Port : 25 (SMTP - Simple Mail Transfer
|>> Protocol)
|>>
|>> Ethernet packet details:
|>>
|>> Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)
|>>
|>> Destination: 00-30-bd-20-ef-95
|>>
|>> Source: 00-04-75-ad-62-4d
|>>
|>> Type: IP (0x0800)
|>>
|>> Internet Protocol
|>>
|>> Version: 4
|>>
|>> Header Length: 20 bytes
|>>
|>> Flags:
|>>
|>> .1.. = Don't fragment: Set
|>>
|>> ..0. = More fragments: Not set
|>>
|>> Fragment offset:0
|>>
|>> Time to live: 128
|>>
|>> Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission Control Protocol)
|>>
|>> Header checksum: 0x5018 (Correct)
|>>
|>> Source: 192.168.2.3
|>>
|>> Destination: 167.206.5.250
|>>
|>> Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)
|>>
|>> Source port: 1094
|>>
|>> Destination port: 25
|>>
|>> Sequence number: 2040560
|>>
|>> Acknowledgment number: 0
|>>
|>> Header length: 28
|>>
|>> Flags:
|>>
|>> 0... .... = Congestion Window Reduce
|>> (CWR): Not set
|>>
|>> .0.. .... = ECN-Echo: Not set
|>>
|>> ..0. .... = Urgent: Not set
|>>
|>> ...0 .... = Acknowledgment: Not set
|>>
|>> .... 0... = Push: Not set
|>>
|>> .... .0.. = Reset: Not set
|>>
|>> .... ..1. = Syn: Set
|>>
|>> .... ...0 = Fin: Not set
|>>
|>> Checksum: 0x45cb (Correct)
|>>
|>> Data (0 Bytes)
|>>
|>>
|>>
|>> Binary dump of the packet:
|>>
|>> 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45 00 | .0.
|>> ....u.bM..E.
|>>
|>> 0010: 00 30 72 04 40 00 80 06 : 18 50 C0 A8 02 03 A7 CE |
|>> .0r.@....P......
|>>
|>> 0020: 05 FA 04 46 00 19 00 1F : 22 F0 00 00 00 00 70 02 |
|>> ...F....".....p.
|>>
|>> 0030: 20 00 CB 45 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 C5 CE |
|>> ..E............
|>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
|>> --
|>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
|>> --
|>> -----
|>> Then when I opened the newsgroup I got this:
|>>
|>> Outlook Express has added 2 dll files
|>>
|>> The new DLLs have been loaded:
|>>
|>> C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\TEXTCONV\MSCONV97.DLL
|>>
|>> C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\TEXTCONV\HTML32.CNV
|>>
|>>
|>> To disable DLL Authentication go to the security tab under the
|>> Tools, Options menu.
|>>
|>> File Version : 6.00.2800.1123
|>>
|>> File Description : Outlook Express
|>>
|>> File Path : C:\Program Files\Outlook
|>> Express\msimn.exe
|>>
|>> Process ID : 0xFFF8E2D5 (Heximal)
|>> 4294501077 (Decimal)
|>>
|>> Connection origin : local initiated
|>>
|>> Protocol : TCP
|>>
|>> Local Address : 192.168.2.3
|>>
|>> Local Port : 1101
|>>
|>> Remote Name : news.optonline.net
|>>
|>> Remote Address : 209.197.15.254
|>>
|>> Remote Port : 119 (NNTP - Network News
|>> Transfer Protocol)
|>>
|>> Ethernet packet details:
|>>
|>> Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)
|>>
|>> Destination: 00-30-bd-20-ef-95
|>>
|>> Source: 00-04-75-ad-62-4d
|>>
|>> Type: IP (0x0800)
|>>
|>> Internet Protocol
|>>
|>> Version: 4
|>>
|>> Header Length: 20 bytes
|>>
|>> Flags:
|>>
|>> .1.. = Don't fragment: Set
|>>
|>> ..0. = More fragments: Not set
|>>
|>> Fragment offset:0
|>>
|>> Time to live: 128
|>>
|>> Protocol: 0x6 (TCP - Transmission Control Protocol)
|>>
|>> Header checksum: 0x5499 (Correct)
|>>
|>> Source: 192.168.2.3
|>>
|>> Destination: 209.197.15.254
|>>
|>> Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)
|>>
|>> Source port: 1101
|>>
|>> Destination port: 119
|>>
|>> Sequence number: 2582083
|>>
|>> Acknowledgment number: 0
|>>
|>> Header length: 28
|>>
|>> Flags:
|>>
|>> 0... .... = Congestion Window Reduce
|>> (CWR): Not set
|>>
|>> .0.. .... = ECN-Echo: Not set
|>>
|>> ..0. .... = Urgent: Not set
|>>
|>> ...0 .... = Acknowledgment: Not set
|>>
|>> .... 0... = Push: Not set
|>>
|>> .... .0.. = Reset: Not set
|>>
|>> .... ..1. = Syn: Set
|>>
|>> .... ...0 = Fin: Not set
|>>
|>> Checksum: 0x8a53 (Correct)
|>>
|>> Data (0 Bytes)
|>>
|>>
|>>
|>> Binary dump of the packet:
|>>
|>> 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08 00 45 00 | .0.
|>> ....u.bM..E.
|>>
|>> 0010: 00 30 BD 04 40 00 80 06 : 99 54 C0 A8 02 03 D1 C5 |
|>> .0..@....T......
|>>
|>> 0020: 0F FE 04 4D 00 77 00 27 : 66 43 00 00 00 00 70 02 |
|>> ...M.w.'fC....p.
|>>
|>> 0030: 20 00 53 8A 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04 02 6F 2F |
|>> .S...........

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[PCR]

MEB wrote:
| Okay, hopefully someone has an older installation that can verify
| prior WU installation to confirm that aspect. Doesn't PCR run an old
| installation?

JUST like for you, IUHist.xml shows 823353 came in for me from Windows
Update. I got it one day before you.

It is not at the Catalog for Win98 in any of the categories (looking for
823353 or MS04-018), which finally has begun to work again after 3
days...
http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp

And it wasn't among my downloads from the Catalog. So, either I didn't
look quick enough for it or it never was there. HOWEVER...

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=19527
Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018
Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express (823353)

....from our IUHist.xml DOES serve to get to it. Thanks to you & Terhune
(especially for testing it)-- I took it in, just in case I ever need to
reinstall it. I took in...

• Microsoft Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1
IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe
Desc: Win32 Cabinet Self-Extractor
Size: 1,996,544 bytes
Ver: 6.00.2800.1168

I'm not sure whether the version refers to the update or the Extractor.
I DO verify that the files you mentioned are indeed the versions I've
got. Thanks again to you & Terhune.

| --
| MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| --
| _________
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| news:egDoz10wIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|| The 1409 versions are from KB837009. The version changes you list
|| match my observations.
||
|| --
|| Gary S. Terhune
|| MS-MVP Shell/User
|| www.grystmill.com
||
|| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| news:%237%23eiP0wIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|| > Finally had some time to look at IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU
|| >
|| > The main files that would be apparently updated are:
|| >
|| > 6.00.2800.1441 - inetcomm.dll - via upgrade
|| > 6.00.2800.1409 - via WU
|| >
|| > 6.00.2800.1437 - msoe.dll - via update
|| > 6.00.2800.1409 - via WU
|| >
|| > 6.00.2800.1450 - wab32.dll - via update
|| > 6.00.2800.1409 - via WU
|| >
|| > Of course that now means that we are basically recommending
|| > non-official updating, though it IS based upon prior updates
|| > provided and installed by WU
|| > as I posted showing the iuhist.xml.
|| >
|| > I checked using the OE About screen, see if this is confirmed [I
|| > haven't installed it yet as this would potentially affect present
|| > tests].
|| >
|| > We could also use some verification of versions by others.
|| >
|| > --
|| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| > --
|| > _________
|| >
|| > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| > news:eDlZzcJwIHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|| > | Sounds like the plan...
|| > |
|| > | I'll have to check to see if that was one of those extra needed
|| > | files that I had listed on the web page..if not, it will be
|| > |
|| > | --
|| > | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| > | --
|| > | _________
|| > |
|| > | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|| > | news:erGCAzGwIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|| > | | After reading the KB more closely, what KB823353 really says
|| > | | is that it does is get rid of one of minor nuisance introduced
|| > | | by KB837009 -- like that famous wandering "~" file, but also
|| > | | another vulnerability in IE5.5SP1. Other than that, it
|| > | | apparently includes everything in KB837009. IOW, it does
|| > | | replace the "previous" patch entirely. (I looked inside, they
|| > | | look nearly identical.) So what happened, probably, is that
|| > | | reinstalling standard IE6SP1 over whatever she already had
|| > | | installed (including KB823353) caused a mix-up that had WU
|| > | | seeing KB837009 as required, not noting that KB823353 was
|| > | | already present. Reinstalling KB837009 was only necessary in
|| > | | order to stop WU from wanting to install it (and it fails
|| > | | silently).
|| > | |
|| > | | I'm thinking that while it wasn't necessary to reinstall
|| > | | KB837009, except to stop any nagging by WU, it was a good idea
|| > | | to reinstall KB823353. As for PA Bear's encounter, it sound's
|| > | | like that was an XP machine or it had an unofficial patch
|| > | | installed, then reinstalled IE or something similar and ran
|| > | | into the same issue, just with later versions.
|| > | |
|| > | | Anyway, I'm adding KB823353 to my Updates CDs just as soon as
|| > | | another CD burning session is called for, which will be pretty
|| > | | soon.
|| > | |
|| > | | --
|| > | | Gary S. Terhune
|| > | | MS-MVP Shell/User
|| > | | www.grystmill.com
|| > | |
|| > | | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| > | | news:%23WJibtEwIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|| > | | > Agreed, makes no sense except for the issues involved with
|| > | | > its installation.
|| > | | >
|| > | | > Issues related to its installation > end of support > remove
|| > | | > it from WU.
|| > | | >
|| > | | > This isn't the only file/update previously offered via WU,
|| > | | > now "missing in action".
|| > | | >
|| > | | > --
|| > | | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| > | | > --
|| > | | > _________
|| > | | >
|| > | | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|| > | | > news:%23Jb$dmDwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|| > | | > | Makes no sense, part deux...
|| > | | > |
|| > | | > | Result is that KB823353 is not considered a Critical
|| > | | > | Update and thus shouldn't appear at WU. Yet it is listed
|| > | | > | as a replacement for KB837009 which IS a Critical Update
|| > | | > | (and apparently for good reason.)
|| > | | > |
|| > | | > | The SecUp CD precedes these Updates by a good two years.
| Shouldn't
|| > be
|| > | | > any
|| > | | > | part of the problem.
|| > | | > |
|| > | | > | --
|| > | | > | Gary S. Terhune
|| > | | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
|| > | | > | www.grystmill.com
|| > | | > |
|| > | | > | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|| > | | > | news:%23OnszBDwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|| > | | > | > Only thing I can glean from that is that I see why the
|| > | | > | > switch listed in that exchange I linked to didn't work:
|| > | | > | > It's /n:v, not /nv.
|| > | | > | >
|| > | | > | > I dunno, I'm tired of it. There have been too many
|| > | | > | > different versions of IE/OE installed on the machine,
|| > | | > | > starting with AOHell ten years ago and ending with
|| > | | > | > whatever her cable ISP installed. In any case, my test
|| > | | > | > machine is a mess from playing with that Auto-Patcher,
|| > | | > | > and yet it
| would
|| > seem
|| > | | > that
|| > | | > | > Windows Updates is not offering the some updates that it
| should
|| > be.
|| > | | > 837009
|| > | | > | > is the latest one for OE, and even during all the
|| > | | > | > testing I did when putting together the Updates
|| > | | > | > packages, I never saw any of these later versions, even
|| > | | > | > though they're supposed to be offered by WU.
|| > | | > | >
|| > | | > | > --
|| > | | > | > Gary S. Terhune
|| > | | > | > MS-MVP Shell/User
|| > | | > | > www.grystmill.com
|| > | | > | >
|| > | | > | > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| > | | > | > news:uQnf5zCwIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|| > | | > | >> 837009 is listed on this system. The only 82**** in
|| > | | > | >> Add/Remove I presently
|| > | | > | >> have is 823559. Its not shown in IE or iuhist either.
|| > | | > | >> Would
|| > this
|| > be
|| > | | > | >> related
|| > | | > | >> to the SecCD usage perhaps?
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> I agree, if that was, in fact, the supposed
|| > | | > | >> update/supercede, then that is
|| > | | > | >> what should be offered. There were installation issues
|| > | | > | >> associated with it,
|| > | | > | >> so MAYBE Microsoft determined it would just delete/not
|| > | | > | >> offer
| it
|| > or
|| > | | > SecCD
|| > | | > | >> somehow over-rides installation. It did, however,
|| > | | > | >> appear in the old installations [not SecCD updated]
|| > | | > | >> documented in 2006.
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> Affected Software:
|| > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT® Workstation 4.0 Service Pack 6a
|| > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Service Pack 6a
|| > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Terminal Server
|| > | | > | >> Edition
|| > Service
|| > | | > Pack
|| > | | > 6
|| > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 2, Microsoft
|| > | | > | >> Windows 2000 Service Pack
|| > | | > | >> 3, Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
|| > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows XP and Microsoft Windows XP Service
|| > | | > | >> Pack 1 . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Service
|| > | | > | >> Pack 1 . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Version
|| > | | > | >> 2003 . Microsoft Windows ServerT 2003
|| > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows Server 2003 64-Bit Edition
|| > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows 98, Microsoft Windows 98 Second
|| > | | > | >> Edition (SE), and Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition
|| > | | > | >> (Me) - Review the FAQ section of this
|| > | | > | >> bulletin for details about these operating systems.
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> INFORMATION/DATA saved for 823353 shows [02/07 and
|| > | | > | >> 02/16 of 2006]:
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >>> Answering to PA Bear, now with 887797 and 897715
|| > | | > | >>> missing,
|| > 823353
|| > | is
|| > | | > the
|| > | | > | >> only
|| > | | > | >>> reported update by Windows update...
|| > | | > | >>>
|| > | | > | >>> msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll are now 6.00.2800.1478 while
|| > | | > | >>> wab32.dll is
|| > | | > | >>> 6.00.2800.1106.
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> Well, msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll have the version
|| > | | > | >> numbers of the files contained in KB887797 *not*
|| > | | > | >> KB823353 while the wab32.dll is the version coming with
|| > | | > | >> plain SP1 (no KB823353 nor KB887797 installed). You
|| > | | > | >> have a "wonderful" mix of versions there on your
|| > | | > | >> machine right now :-/
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> So I stress you to install KB823353 with the /n:v
|| > | | > | >> parameter once again (IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe
|| > | | > | >> /n:v). Please try this one in normal mode, *not* safe
|| > | | > | >> mode. Afterwards please compare the versions of the
|| > | | > | >> following files with the ones on your machine - yes,
|| > | | > | >> *all* of them! In the brackets you can find the version
|| > | | > | >> and date of the files wich are contained in KB823353:
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> directdb.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
|| > | | > | >> inetcomm.dll (6.0.2800.1441 - 07.06.2004)
|| > | | > | >> inetres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| > | | > | >> msident.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| > | | > | >> msimn.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| > | | > | >> msoe.dll (6.0.2800.1437 - 26.05.2004)
|| > | | > | >> msoeacct.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| > | | > | >> msoeres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| > | | > | >> msoert2.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
|| > | | > | >> oeimport.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| > | | > | >> oemig50.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| > | | > | >> oemiglib.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| > | | > | >> wab32.dll (6.0.2800.1450 - 24.06.2004)
|| > | | > | >> wab.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| > | | > | >> wabfind.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| > | | > | >> wabimp.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| > | | > | >> wabmig.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> Could you please afterwards open Internet Explorer,
|| > | | > | >> have look in "? -> Info" and please post *all* what's
|| > | | > | >> listet there behind and under the "Update Version"
|| > | | > | >> section? Yes *all* these "Q......"'s.
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> AND:
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 1:39 pm
|| > | | > | >> From: "PA Bear"
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> Thanks, Freudi.
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> Dimitri, here's another description of how to do what
| Freudi's
|| > | asked
|| > | | > you
|| > | | > | >> to
|| > | | > | >> try:
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> <paste>
|| > | | > | >> Close OE. Clear History, delete Cookies and delete
|| > | | > | >> Temporary Internet Files
|| > | | > | >> via IE: Tools > Options > General, then...
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> 1. Download the Cumulative Security Update for Outlook
| Express
|| > 6
|| > | | > Service
|| > | | > | >> Pack 1 (KB823353 all OSS) from the following link,
|| > | | > | >> saving it to your Desktop:
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | >
|| > |
|| >
|
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...BC-DAF0-4EAB-89B8-BD702B3E3E5D&displaylang=en
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> (or http://snipurl.com/8x9i)
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> [ Optional: 2. Restart the computer in Safe Mode.
|| > | | > | >> (During the reboot, keep
|| > | | > | >> pressing the F8 key until the Windows Startup menu
|| > | | > | >> appears > Choose Safe Mode > Enter.) ]
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> 3. Rename the downloaded file to KB823353.EXE and copy
|| > | | > | >> it to C:\ (the root
|| > | | > | >> directory of drive C assumes drive C is the boot drive)
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> 4. Start > Run > (type in) C:\KB823353.EXE /N:V (Note
|| > | | > | >> the space) press ENTER
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> 5. Close the command window.
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> 6. Reboot [into Windows] and then check in at Windows
|| > | | > | >> Update to see KB823353
|| > | | > | >> is still offered.
|| > | | > | >> </paste>
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> Don't install any other OE updates, just answer #6
|| > | | > | >> above and either state the current versions of MSOE.DLL
|| > | | > | >> and INETCOMM.DLL or post your reply using
|| > | | > | >> OE instead of the web interface.
|| > | | > | >> ~PA Bear
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> Ottmar Freudenberger wrote:
|| > | | > | >> <snip>
|| > | | > | >>> Okay, so you've skipped the steps I've mentioned after
|| > | | > | >>> having KB823353 installed? -)
|| > | | > | >>>
|| > | | > | >>> Uninstall them (KB887797 and KB897715) once again
|| > | | > | >>> please.
|| > | | > | >>>
|| > | | > | >>> After you've unistalled them, try to install KB823353
|| > | | > | >>> with the parameter "/n:v".
|| > | | > | >>> Assuming you've saved the
|| > | | > | >>> "IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe"
|| > file
|| > in
|| > | | > | >>> "C:\Downloads", you would have to enter the following
|| > | | > | >>> in
| "Run"
|| > in
|| > | | > the
|| > | | > | >>> Start menu:
|| > | | > | >>>
|| > | | > | >>> C:\Downloads\IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe /n:v
|| > | | > | >>>
|| > | | > | >>> Note, there's a blank after the EXE and no blank in
|| > | | > | >>> the parameter. Let me know, if the installation of
|| > | | > | >>> KB823353 has been successful this time
|| > | | > | >> <snip>
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 6:19 pm
|| > | | > | >> From: "PA Bear"
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> ActiveX controls may not load as expected in Internet
| Explorer
|| > due
|| > | to
|| > | | > | >> defense in depth changes introduced in cumulative
|| > | | > | >> security update 896688 (MS05-052):
|| > http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909889
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> A Web page that contains a custom ActiveX control may
|| > | | > | >> not load as expected
|| > | | > | >> in Internet Explorer due to defense in depth changes
|| > | | > | >> introduced in cumulative security update 896688
|| > | | > | >> (MS05-052):
|| > | | > | >> http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909738
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> => The fix detailed in 909889 involving the Registry
|| > | | > | >> and OLE32.DLL is available at
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> - http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip or
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> - http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/kb896688_fix.zip (a
|| > | | > | >> small
| VB
|| > app
|| > | | > that
|| > | | > | >> checks the 4 values and offers a repair option if any
|| > | | > | >> of them are incorrect).
|| > | | > | >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
|| > | | > | >> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org
|| > | | > | >> VSOP, DTS-L.org
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >>> Ralf wrote:
|| > | | > | >>> > I'd like to let the group know that the odd behavior
|| > | | > | >>> > issue
|| > which
|| > | | > has
|| > | | > | >> been
|| > | | > | >>> > reported from various sources after installing the
|| > | | > | >>> > December Microsoft Updates has been solved. I've
|| > | | > | >>> > posted the details on my blog at
|| > | | > | >>> > http://www.rottmann.net .
|| > | | > | >>> >
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> --
|| > | | > | >> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| > | | > | >> --
|| > | | > | >> _________
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | > | >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|| > | | > | >> news:%2361bRhCwIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|| > | | > | >> | Oh yeah... That /nv switch didn't work when I tried
|| > | | > | >> | it.
| What
|| > I
|| > | | > don't
|| > | | > | >> get
|| > | | > | >> is
|| > | | > | >> | where she got 823353, since I've yet to see it
|| > | | > | >> | offered by Windows Updates. Thing is, KB823353 =
|| > | | > | >> | MS04-18, whereas KB837009 = MS04-13.
| The
|| > | notes
|| > | | > in
|| > | | > | >> | MS04-18 say that it replaces MS04-13.
|| > | | > | >> |
|| > | | > | >> | IOW, it would seem a failure of WU to not offer
|| > | | > | >> | KB823353 to
|| > my
|| > | | > system.
|| > | | > | >> I'd
|| > | | > | >> | be interested to know from folks: In Add/Remove
|| > | | > | >> | Programs,
| do
|| > you
|| > | | > have
|| > | | > | >> either
|| > | | > | >> | of these Updates listed (or both)?
|| > | | > | >> |
|| > | | > | >> | --
|| > | | > | >> | Gary S. Terhune
|| > | | > | >> | MS-MVP Shell/User
|| > | | > | >> | www.grystmill.com
|| > | | > | >> |
|| > | | > | >> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| > | | > | >> | news:u6qeXOCwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|| > | | > | >> | > Frankly I'm not sure. When done with everything
|| > | | > | >> | > else [file checks, anti-v/SpyWare, etc.] run
|| > | | > | >> | > C:\WINDOWS\QFECheck.exe and see
|| > if
|| > | | > anything
|| > | | > | >> is
|| > | | > | >> | > messed up.
|| > | | > | >> | > Might cross-check the Windows Update.log and
|| > | | > | >> | > iuhist.xml
| if
|| > you
|| > | | > used
|| > | | > | >> | > windowsupdate during the process.
|| > | | > | >> | >
|| > | | > | >> | > --
|| > | | > | >> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| > | | > | >> | > --
|| > | | > | >> | > _________
|| > | | > | >> | >
|| > | | > | >> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|| > | | > | >> | > news:uxvuLTBwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|| > | | > | >> | > | Uninstalled 823353, installed 837009, reinstalled
| 82353.
|| > But
|| > | | > I'm
|| > | | > | >> not
|| > | | > | >> | > clear
|| > | | > | >> | > | that that was the thing to do. We were getting
|| > | | > | >> | > | blitzy,
| so
|| > I'm
|| > | | > not
|| > | | > | >> sure.
|| > | | > | >> | > |
|| > | | > | >> | > | --
|| > | | > | >> | > | Gary S. Terhune
|| > | | > | >> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
|| > | | > | >> | > | www.grystmill.com
|| > | | > | >> | > |
|| > | | > | >> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| > | | > | >> | > | news:OE$y%23F8vIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|| > | | > | >> | > | > Did you fix it with /N:V fix, or the reg entry,
|| > | | > | >> | > | > or
| are
|| > | there
|| > | | > | >> still
|| > | | > | >> | > issues
|| > | | > | >> | > | > with it? Just curious..
|| > | | > | >> | > | >
|| > | | > | >> | > | > --
|| > | | > | >> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| > | | > | >> | > | > --
|| > | | > | >> | > | > _________
|| > | | > | >> | > | >
|| > | | > | >> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|| > | | > | >> | > | > news:uPntGK7vIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | The mystery still remains as to where MSXML
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | 4.0 SP1
|| > came
|| > | | > from,
|| > | | > | >> and
|| > | | > | >> | > what
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | disappeared those three other files, but what
| caused
|| > some
|| > | | > grief
|| > | | > | >> was
|| > | | > | >> | > that
|| > | | > | >> | > | > the
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | machine was out of disk space. So we made
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | some,
| were
|| > able
|| > | | > to
|| > | | > | >> get
|| > | | > | >> rid
|| > | | > | >> | > of
|| > | | > | >> | > | > the
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | firewall and a couple of other things, update
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | some
|| > apps,
|| > | | > | >> reinstall
|| > | | > | >> | > IE,
|| > | | > | >> | > | > etc.
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | There is another firewall in the mix, on the
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | Belkin
|| > | router,
|| > | | > and
|| > | | > | >> it
|| > | | > | >> | > seems
|| > | | > | >> | > | > to
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | be blocking Avast!, too. So we discovered that
|| > leaving
|| > | Web
|| > | | > | >> Shield
|| > | | > | >> | > out
|| > | | > | >> | > | > fixed
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | the problem with Avast!, just before their
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | tech
|| > response,
|| > | | > | >> though
|| > | | > | >> it
|| > | | > | >> | > | > doesn't
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | explain how the no-browser-allowed problem was
|| > occurring
|| > | | > when
|| > | | > | >> Avast!
|| > | | > | >> | > was
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | all day, today.
|| > | | > | >> | > | > |
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | I suspect further malware, but the system is
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | 98
|| > Original
|| > | | > and
|| > | | > is
|| > | | > | >> the
|| > | | > | >> | > | > original
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | install. Had AOL for various years, then
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | EarthLink,
|| > then
|| > | | > this
|| > | | > | >> cable
|| > | | > | >> | > | > company,
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | all with their installations of branded
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | stuff, and
|| > the
|| > | | > cable
|| > | | > | >> | > company's
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | "reach into your system and FIX things"
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | umbilical,
|| > it's
|| > | | > hard
|| > | | > to
|| > | | > | >> sort
|| > | | > | >> | > | > stuff
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | out. Cleaned up what was necessary to clean up
|| > (machine
|| > | | > will
|| > | | > be
|| > | | > | >> | > | > replaced,
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | soon.) Further scans need to be run and a HJT
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | log done right.
|| > | | > | >> | > | > |
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | Had a problem with Outlook Express after
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | reinstall
| of
|| > IE.
|| > | | > Went
|| > | | > | >> to
|| > | | > | >> WU
|| > | | > | >> | > and
|| > | | > | >> | > | > got
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | three updates, but then went back and one kept
| being
|| > | | > reoffered.
|| > | | > | >> This
|| > | | > | >> | > was
|| > | | > | >> | > | > the
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | issue:
|| > | | > | >> | > | > |
|| > | | > | >> | >
|| > | | > | >>
|| > | | >
|| >
http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html
|| > | | > | >> | > | > |
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | More to come if I remember more...
|| > | | > | >> | > | > |
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | --
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | www.grystmill.com
|| > | | > | >> | > | > |
|| > | | > | >> | > | > |
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | message
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you
|| > sticking
|| > | with
|| > | | > me
|| > | | > | >> | > through
|| > | | > | >> | > | > this.
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > Someone
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I
| installed
|| > them
|| > | | > and
|| > | | > | >> was
|| > | | > | >> | > able
|| > | | > | >> | > | > to
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > run the
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > help. I
|| > cleaned
|| > | | > up
|| > | | > my
|| > | | > | >> | > startup
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > items with help
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > from the group. I deleted a lot of
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > unnecessary
|| > files.
|| > I
|| > | | > | >> download
|| > | | > | >> | > | > IE6sp1
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > zip from an
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > e-mail and Gary walked my through the
| overinstall.
|| > I
|| > | | > follow
|| > | | > | >> your
|| > | | > | >> | > | > advice
|| > | | > | >> | > | > on
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > just about
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > every post. Forgive me for not answering
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > all but
| we
|| > | spent
|| > | | > | >> about
|| > | | > | >> 24
|| > | | > | >> | > | > hours
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > just going
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > through this. This is my third day and we
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > are
|| > finally
|| > | | > fixed.
|| > | | > | >> I
|| > | | > | >> | > think
|| > | | > | >> | > | > what
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > did it is I
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > removed my firewall.....'Trial of
|| > Transgressions'....I
|| > | | > think
|| > | | > | >> that
|| > | | > | >> | > was
|| > | | > | >> | > | > the
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > name. and I
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > only use Avast resident protection (virus
|| > | | > scanner).....not
|| > | | > | >> web
|| > | | > | >> | > | > protection
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > or e-mail.
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > I ran scandisk.
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > I did so many things it's hard to remember
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > them
|| > all.
|| > | When
|| > | | > I
|| > | | > | >> start
|| > | | > | >> | > my
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > computer any
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > referral to ports, or joysticks, or the
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > soundcard
|| > that
|| > | I
|| > | | > | >> never
|| > | | > | >> had
|| > | | > | >> | > are
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > gone. A few
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > little quirks remain such as when I try to
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > send
|| > this
|| > | | > e-mail,
|| > | | > | >> I
|| > | | > | >> | > get
|| > | | > | >> | > an
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > error message
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > that the outbox can't be opened. So I will
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > bypass
|| > the
|| > | | > outbox
|| > | | > | >> from
|| > | | > | >> | > now
|| > | | > | >> | > | > on
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > and send
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > messages right away. At least I can get
|| > | | > | >> | > | > | > online!!! thank you all.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[MEB]

Thanks PCR, thought you said you had an older installation for a check...
BTW if you could send me your old iuhist for comparison, it would be
appreciated. I started new testing phases after the December 2005 issues.,
so all iuhist [that I remembered to save] after, have not got that in it.
I'd like to compare my old ones with yours to see what else was removed.
Perhaps you may have some other things missing which I may not have [due to
several re-installations during the final support days or before] or
overlooked..

m_brahier at hotmail dot com

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:enYFst5wIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| MEB wrote:
| | Okay, hopefully someone has an older installation that can verify
| | prior WU installation to confirm that aspect. Doesn't PCR run an old
| | installation?
|
| JUST like for you, IUHist.xml shows 823353 came in for me from Windows
| Update. I got it one day before you.
|
| It is not at the Catalog for Win98 in any of the categories (looking for
| 823353 or MS04-018), which finally has begun to work again after 3
| days...
| http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp
|
| And it wasn't among my downloads from the Catalog. So, either I didn't
| look quick enough for it or it never was there. HOWEVER...
|
| http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=19527
| Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018
| Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express (823353)
|
| ...from our IUHist.xml DOES serve to get to it. Thanks to you & Terhune
| (especially for testing it)-- I took it in, just in case I ever need to
| reinstall it. I took in...
|
| . Microsoft Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1
| IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe
| Desc: Win32 Cabinet Self-Extractor
| Size: 1,996,544 bytes
| Ver: 6.00.2800.1168
|
| I'm not sure whether the version refers to the update or the Extractor.
| I DO verify that the files you mentioned are indeed the versions I've
| got. Thanks again to you & Terhune.
|
| | --
| | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| | --
| | _________
| |
| | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| | news:egDoz10wIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| || The 1409 versions are from KB837009. The version changes you list
| || match my observations.
| ||
| || --
| || Gary S. Terhune
| || MS-MVP Shell/User
| || www.grystmill.com
| ||
| || "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| || news:%237%23eiP0wIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| || > Finally had some time to look at IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU
| || >
| || > The main files that would be apparently updated are:
| || >
| || > 6.00.2800.1441 - inetcomm.dll - via upgrade
| || > 6.00.2800.1409 - via WU
| || >
| || > 6.00.2800.1437 - msoe.dll - via update
| || > 6.00.2800.1409 - via WU
| || >
| || > 6.00.2800.1450 - wab32.dll - via update
| || > 6.00.2800.1409 - via WU
| || >
| || > Of course that now means that we are basically recommending
| || > non-official updating, though it IS based upon prior updates
| || > provided and installed by WU
| || > as I posted showing the iuhist.xml.
| || >
| || > I checked using the OE About screen, see if this is confirmed [I
| || > haven't installed it yet as this would potentially affect present
| || > tests].
| || >
| || > We could also use some verification of versions by others.
| || >
| || > --
| || > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| || > --
| || > _________
| || >
| || > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| || > news:eDlZzcJwIHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| || > | Sounds like the plan...
| || > |
| || > | I'll have to check to see if that was one of those extra needed
| || > | files that I had listed on the web page..if not, it will be
| || > |
| || > | --
| || > | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| || > | --
| || > | _________
| || > |
| || > | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| || > | news:erGCAzGwIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| || > | | After reading the KB more closely, what KB823353 really says
| || > | | is that it does is get rid of one of minor nuisance introduced
| || > | | by KB837009 -- like that famous wandering "~" file, but also
| || > | | another vulnerability in IE5.5SP1. Other than that, it
| || > | | apparently includes everything in KB837009. IOW, it does
| || > | | replace the "previous" patch entirely. (I looked inside, they
| || > | | look nearly identical.) So what happened, probably, is that
| || > | | reinstalling standard IE6SP1 over whatever she already had
| || > | | installed (including KB823353) caused a mix-up that had WU
| || > | | seeing KB837009 as required, not noting that KB823353 was
| || > | | already present. Reinstalling KB837009 was only necessary in
| || > | | order to stop WU from wanting to install it (and it fails
| || > | | silently).
| || > | |
| || > | | I'm thinking that while it wasn't necessary to reinstall
| || > | | KB837009, except to stop any nagging by WU, it was a good idea
| || > | | to reinstall KB823353. As for PA Bear's encounter, it sound's
| || > | | like that was an XP machine or it had an unofficial patch
| || > | | installed, then reinstalled IE or something similar and ran
| || > | | into the same issue, just with later versions.
| || > | |
| || > | | Anyway, I'm adding KB823353 to my Updates CDs just as soon as
| || > | | another CD burning session is called for, which will be pretty
| || > | | soon.
| || > | |
| || > | | --
| || > | | Gary S. Terhune
| || > | | MS-MVP Shell/User
| || > | | www.grystmill.com
| || > | |
| || > | | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| || > | | news:%23WJibtEwIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| || > | | > Agreed, makes no sense except for the issues involved with
| || > | | > its installation.
| || > | | >
| || > | | > Issues related to its installation > end of support > remove
| || > | | > it from WU.
| || > | | >
| || > | | > This isn't the only file/update previously offered via WU,
| || > | | > now "missing in action".
| || > | | >
| || > | | > --
| || > | | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| || > | | > --
| || > | | > _________
| || > | | >
| || > | | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| || > | | > news:%23Jb$dmDwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| || > | | > | Makes no sense, part deux...
| || > | | > |
| || > | | > | Result is that KB823353 is not considered a Critical
| || > | | > | Update and thus shouldn't appear at WU. Yet it is listed
| || > | | > | as a replacement for KB837009 which IS a Critical Update
| || > | | > | (and apparently for good reason.)
| || > | | > |
| || > | | > | The SecUp CD precedes these Updates by a good two years.
| | Shouldn't
| || > be
| || > | | > any
| || > | | > | part of the problem.
| || > | | > |
| || > | | > | --
| || > | | > | Gary S. Terhune
| || > | | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| || > | | > | www.grystmill.com
| || > | | > |
| || > | | > | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| || > | | > | news:%23OnszBDwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| || > | | > | > Only thing I can glean from that is that I see why the
| || > | | > | > switch listed in that exchange I linked to didn't work:
| || > | | > | > It's /n:v, not /nv.
| || > | | > | >
| || > | | > | > I dunno, I'm tired of it. There have been too many
| || > | | > | > different versions of IE/OE installed on the machine,
| || > | | > | > starting with AOHell ten years ago and ending with
| || > | | > | > whatever her cable ISP installed. In any case, my test
| || > | | > | > machine is a mess from playing with that Auto-Patcher,
| || > | | > | > and yet it
| | would
| || > seem
| || > | | > that
| || > | | > | > Windows Updates is not offering the some updates that it
| | should
| || > be.
| || > | | > 837009
| || > | | > | > is the latest one for OE, and even during all the
| || > | | > | > testing I did when putting together the Updates
| || > | | > | > packages, I never saw any of these later versions, even
| || > | | > | > though they're supposed to be offered by WU.
| || > | | > | >
| || > | | > | > --
| || > | | > | > Gary S. Terhune
| || > | | > | > MS-MVP Shell/User
| || > | | > | > www.grystmill.com
| || > | | > | >
| || > | | > | > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| || > | | > | > news:uQnf5zCwIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| || > | | > | >> 837009 is listed on this system. The only 82**** in
| || > | | > | >> Add/Remove I presently
| || > | | > | >> have is 823559. Its not shown in IE or iuhist either.
| || > | | > | >> Would
| || > this
| || > be
| || > | | > | >> related
| || > | | > | >> to the SecCD usage perhaps?
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> I agree, if that was, in fact, the supposed
| || > | | > | >> update/supercede, then that is
| || > | | > | >> what should be offered. There were installation issues
| || > | | > | >> associated with it,
| || > | | > | >> so MAYBE Microsoft determined it would just delete/not
| || > | | > | >> offer
| | it
| || > or
| || > | | > SecCD
| || > | | > | >> somehow over-rides installation. It did, however,
| || > | | > | >> appear in the old installations [not SecCD updated]
| || > | | > | >> documented in 2006.
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> Affected Software:
| || > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT® Workstation 4.0 Service Pack 6a
| || > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Service Pack 6a
| || > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Terminal Server
| || > | | > | >> Edition
| || > Service
| || > | | > Pack
| || > | | > 6
| || > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 2, Microsoft
| || > | | > | >> Windows 2000 Service Pack
| || > | | > | >> 3, Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
| || > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows XP and Microsoft Windows XP Service
| || > | | > | >> Pack 1 . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Service
| || > | | > | >> Pack 1 . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Version
| || > | | > | >> 2003 . Microsoft Windows ServerT 2003
| || > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows Server 2003 64-Bit Edition
| || > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows 98, Microsoft Windows 98 Second
| || > | | > | >> Edition (SE), and Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition
| || > | | > | >> (Me) - Review the FAQ section of this
| || > | | > | >> bulletin for details about these operating systems.
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> INFORMATION/DATA saved for 823353 shows [02/07 and
| || > | | > | >> 02/16 of 2006]:
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >>> Answering to PA Bear, now with 887797 and 897715
| || > | | > | >>> missing,
| || > 823353
| || > | is
| || > | | > the
| || > | | > | >> only
| || > | | > | >>> reported update by Windows update...
| || > | | > | >>>
| || > | | > | >>> msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll are now 6.00.2800.1478 while
| || > | | > | >>> wab32.dll is
| || > | | > | >>> 6.00.2800.1106.
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> Well, msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll have the version
| || > | | > | >> numbers of the files contained in KB887797 *not*
| || > | | > | >> KB823353 while the wab32.dll is the version coming with
| || > | | > | >> plain SP1 (no KB823353 nor KB887797 installed). You
| || > | | > | >> have a "wonderful" mix of versions there on your
| || > | | > | >> machine right now :-/
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> So I stress you to install KB823353 with the /n:v
| || > | | > | >> parameter once again (IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe
| || > | | > | >> /n:v). Please try this one in normal mode, *not* safe
| || > | | > | >> mode. Afterwards please compare the versions of the
| || > | | > | >> following files with the ones on your machine - yes,
| || > | | > | >> *all* of them! In the brackets you can find the version
| || > | | > | >> and date of the files wich are contained in KB823353:
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> directdb.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
| || > | | > | >> inetcomm.dll (6.0.2800.1441 - 07.06.2004)
| || > | | > | >> inetres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || > | | > | >> msident.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || > | | > | >> msimn.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || > | | > | >> msoe.dll (6.0.2800.1437 - 26.05.2004)
| || > | | > | >> msoeacct.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || > | | > | >> msoeres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || > | | > | >> msoert2.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
| || > | | > | >> oeimport.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || > | | > | >> oemig50.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || > | | > | >> oemiglib.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || > | | > | >> wab32.dll (6.0.2800.1450 - 24.06.2004)
| || > | | > | >> wab.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || > | | > | >> wabfind.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || > | | > | >> wabimp.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || > | | > | >> wabmig.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> Could you please afterwards open Internet Explorer,
| || > | | > | >> have look in "? -> Info" and please post *all* what's
| || > | | > | >> listet there behind and under the "Update Version"
| || > | | > | >> section? Yes *all* these "Q......"'s.
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> AND:
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 1:39 pm
| || > | | > | >> From: "PA Bear"
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> Thanks, Freudi.
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> Dimitri, here's another description of how to do what
| | Freudi's
| || > | asked
| || > | | > you
| || > | | > | >> to
| || > | | > | >> try:
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> <paste>
| || > | | > | >> Close OE. Clear History, delete Cookies and delete
| || > | | > | >> Temporary Internet Files
| || > | | > | >> via IE: Tools > Options > General, then...
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> 1. Download the Cumulative Security Update for Outlook
| | Express
| || > 6
| || > | | > Service
| || > | | > | >> Pack 1 (KB823353 all OSS) from the following link,
| || > | | > | >> saving it to your Desktop:
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | >
| || > |
| || >
| |
|
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...BC-DAF0-4EAB-89B8-BD702B3E3E5D&displaylang=en
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> (or http://snipurl.com/8x9i)
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> [ Optional: 2. Restart the computer in Safe Mode.
| || > | | > | >> (During the reboot, keep
| || > | | > | >> pressing the F8 key until the Windows Startup menu
| || > | | > | >> appears > Choose Safe Mode > Enter.) ]
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> 3. Rename the downloaded file to KB823353.EXE and copy
| || > | | > | >> it to C:\ (the root
| || > | | > | >> directory of drive C assumes drive C is the boot drive)
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> 4. Start > Run > (type in) C:\KB823353.EXE /N:V (Note
| || > | | > | >> the space) press ENTER
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> 5. Close the command window.
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> 6. Reboot [into Windows] and then check in at Windows
| || > | | > | >> Update to see KB823353
| || > | | > | >> is still offered.
| || > | | > | >> </paste>
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> Don't install any other OE updates, just answer #6
| || > | | > | >> above and either state the current versions of MSOE.DLL
| || > | | > | >> and INETCOMM.DLL or post your reply using
| || > | | > | >> OE instead of the web interface.
| || > | | > | >> ~PA Bear
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> Ottmar Freudenberger wrote:
| || > | | > | >> <snip>
| || > | | > | >>> Okay, so you've skipped the steps I've mentioned after
| || > | | > | >>> having KB823353 installed? -)
| || > | | > | >>>
| || > | | > | >>> Uninstall them (KB887797 and KB897715) once again
| || > | | > | >>> please.
| || > | | > | >>>
| || > | | > | >>> After you've unistalled them, try to install KB823353
| || > | | > | >>> with the parameter "/n:v".
| || > | | > | >>> Assuming you've saved the
| || > | | > | >>> "IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe"
| || > file
| || > in
| || > | | > | >>> "C:\Downloads", you would have to enter the following
| || > | | > | >>> in
| | "Run"
| || > in
| || > | | > the
| || > | | > | >>> Start menu:
| || > | | > | >>>
| || > | | > | >>> C:\Downloads\IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe /n:v
| || > | | > | >>>
| || > | | > | >>> Note, there's a blank after the EXE and no blank in
| || > | | > | >>> the parameter. Let me know, if the installation of
| || > | | > | >>> KB823353 has been successful this time
| || > | | > | >> <snip>
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 6:19 pm
| || > | | > | >> From: "PA Bear"
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> ActiveX controls may not load as expected in Internet
| | Explorer
| || > due
| || > | to
| || > | | > | >> defense in depth changes introduced in cumulative
| || > | | > | >> security update 896688 (MS05-052):
| || > http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909889
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> A Web page that contains a custom ActiveX control may
| || > | | > | >> not load as expected
| || > | | > | >> in Internet Explorer due to defense in depth changes
| || > | | > | >> introduced in cumulative security update 896688
| || > | | > | >> (MS05-052):
| || > | | > | >> http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909738
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> => The fix detailed in 909889 involving the Registry
| || > | | > | >> and OLE32.DLL is available at
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> - http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip or
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> - http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/kb896688_fix.zip (a
| || > | | > | >> small
| | VB
| || > app
| || > | | > that
| || > | | > | >> checks the 4 values and offers a repair option if any
| || > | | > | >> of them are incorrect).
| || > | | > | >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| || > | | > | >> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org
| || > | | > | >> VSOP, DTS-L.org
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >>> Ralf wrote:
| || > | | > | >>> > I'd like to let the group know that the odd behavior
| || > | | > | >>> > issue
| || > which
| || > | | > has
| || > | | > | >> been
| || > | | > | >>> > reported from various sources after installing the
| || > | | > | >>> > December Microsoft Updates has been solved. I've
| || > | | > | >>> > posted the details on my blog at
| || > | | > | >>> > http://www.rottmann.net .
| || > | | > | >>> >
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> --
| || > | | > | >> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| || > | | > | >> --
| || > | | > | >> _________
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | > | >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| || > | | > | >> news:%2361bRhCwIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| || > | | > | >> | Oh yeah... That /nv switch didn't work when I tried
| || > | | > | >> | it.
| | What
| || > I
| || > | | > don't
| || > | | > | >> get
| || > | | > | >> is
| || > | | > | >> | where she got 823353, since I've yet to see it
| || > | | > | >> | offered by Windows Updates. Thing is, KB823353 =
| || > | | > | >> | MS04-18, whereas KB837009 = MS04-13.
| | The
| || > | notes
| || > | | > in
| || > | | > | >> | MS04-18 say that it replaces MS04-13.
| || > | | > | >> |
| || > | | > | >> | IOW, it would seem a failure of WU to not offer
| || > | | > | >> | KB823353 to
| || > my
| || > | | > system.
| || > | | > | >> I'd
| || > | | > | >> | be interested to know from folks: In Add/Remove
| || > | | > | >> | Programs,
| | do
| || > you
| || > | | > have
| || > | | > | >> either
| || > | | > | >> | of these Updates listed (or both)?
| || > | | > | >> |
| || > | | > | >> | --
| || > | | > | >> | Gary S. Terhune
| || > | | > | >> | MS-MVP Shell/User
| || > | | > | >> | www.grystmill.com
| || > | | > | >> |
| || > | | > | >> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| || > | | > | >> | news:u6qeXOCwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| || > | | > | >> | > Frankly I'm not sure. When done with everything
| || > | | > | >> | > else [file checks, anti-v/SpyWare, etc.] run
| || > | | > | >> | > C:\WINDOWS\QFECheck.exe and see
| || > if
| || > | | > anything
| || > | | > | >> is
| || > | | > | >> | > messed up.
| || > | | > | >> | > Might cross-check the Windows Update.log and
| || > | | > | >> | > iuhist.xml
| | if
| || > you
| || > | | > used
| || > | | > | >> | > windowsupdate during the process.
| || > | | > | >> | >
| || > | | > | >> | > --
| || > | | > | >> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| || > | | > | >> | > --
| || > | | > | >> | > _________
| || > | | > | >> | >
| || > | | > | >> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| || > | | > | >> | > news:uxvuLTBwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| || > | | > | >> | > | Uninstalled 823353, installed 837009, reinstalled
| | 82353.
| || > But
| || > | | > I'm
| || > | | > | >> not
| || > | | > | >> | > clear
| || > | | > | >> | > | that that was the thing to do. We were getting
| || > | | > | >> | > | blitzy,
| | so
| || > I'm
| || > | | > not
| || > | | > | >> sure.
| || > | | > | >> | > |
| || > | | > | >> | > | --
| || > | | > | >> | > | Gary S. Terhune
| || > | | > | >> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| || > | | > | >> | > | www.grystmill.com
| || > | | > | >> | > |
| || > | | > | >> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| || > | | > | >> | > | news:OE$y%23F8vIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| || > | | > | >> | > | > Did you fix it with /N:V fix, or the reg entry,
| || > | | > | >> | > | > or
| | are
| || > | there
| || > | | > | >> still
| || > | | > | >> | > issues
| || > | | > | >> | > | > with it? Just curious..
| || > | | > | >> | > | >
| || > | | > | >> | > | > --
| || > | | > | >> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| || > | | > | >> | > | > --
| || > | | > | >> | > | > _________
| || > | | > | >> | > | >
| || > | | > | >> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| || > | | > | >> | > | > news:uPntGK7vIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | The mystery still remains as to where MSXML
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | 4.0 SP1
| || > came
| || > | | > from,
| || > | | > | >> and
| || > | | > | >> | > what
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | disappeared those three other files, but what
| | caused
| || > some
| || > | | > grief
| || > | | > | >> was
| || > | | > | >> | > that
| || > | | > | >> | > | > the
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | machine was out of disk space. So we made
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | some,
| | were
| || > able
| || > | | > to
| || > | | > | >> get
| || > | | > | >> rid
| || > | | > | >> | > of
| || > | | > | >> | > | > the
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | firewall and a couple of other things, update
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | some
| || > apps,
| || > | | > | >> reinstall
| || > | | > | >> | > IE,
| || > | | > | >> | > | > etc.
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | There is another firewall in the mix, on the
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | Belkin
| || > | router,
| || > | | > and
| || > | | > | >> it
| || > | | > | >> | > seems
| || > | | > | >> | > | > to
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | be blocking Avast!, too. So we discovered that
| || > leaving
| || > | Web
| || > | | > | >> Shield
| || > | | > | >> | > out
| || > | | > | >> | > | > fixed
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | the problem with Avast!, just before their
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | tech
| || > response,
| || > | | > | >> though
| || > | | > | >> it
| || > | | > | >> | > | > doesn't
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | explain how the no-browser-allowed problem was
| || > occurring
| || > | | > when
| || > | | > | >> Avast!
| || > | | > | >> | > was
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | all day, today.
| || > | | > | >> | > | > |
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | I suspect further malware, but the system is
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | 98
| || > Original
| || > | | > and
| || > | | > is
| || > | | > | >> the
| || > | | > | >> | > | > original
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | install. Had AOL for various years, then
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | EarthLink,
| || > then
| || > | | > this
| || > | | > | >> cable
| || > | | > | >> | > | > company,
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | all with their installations of branded
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | stuff, and
| || > the
| || > | | > cable
| || > | | > | >> | > company's
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | "reach into your system and FIX things"
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | umbilical,
| || > it's
| || > | | > hard
| || > | | > to
| || > | | > | >> sort
| || > | | > | >> | > | > stuff
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | out. Cleaned up what was necessary to clean up
| || > (machine
| || > | | > will
| || > | | > be
| || > | | > | >> | > | > replaced,
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | soon.) Further scans need to be run and a HJT
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | log done right.
| || > | | > | >> | > | > |
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | Had a problem with Outlook Express after
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | reinstall
| | of
| || > IE.
| || > | | > Went
| || > | | > | >> to
| || > | | > | >> WU
| || > | | > | >> | > and
| || > | | > | >> | > | > got
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | three updates, but then went back and one kept
| | being
| || > | | > reoffered.
| || > | | > | >> This
| || > | | > | >> | > was
| || > | | > | >> | > | > the
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | issue:
| || > | | > | >> | > | > |
| || > | | > | >> | >
| || > | | > | >>
| || > | | >
| || >
| http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html
| || > | | > | >> | > | > |
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | More to come if I remember more...
| || > | | > | >> | > | > |
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | --
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | www.grystmill.com
| || > | | > | >> | > | > |
| || > | | > | >> | > | > |
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | message
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you
| || > sticking
| || > | with
| || > | | > me
| || > | | > | >> | > through
| || > | | > | >> | > | > this.
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > Someone
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I
| | installed
| || > them
| || > | | > and
| || > | | > | >> was
| || > | | > | >> | > able
| || > | | > | >> | > | > to
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > run the
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > help. I
| || > cleaned
| || > | | > up
| || > | | > my
| || > | | > | >> | > startup
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > items with help
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > from the group. I deleted a lot of
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > unnecessary
| || > files.
| || > I
| || > | | > | >> download
| || > | | > | >> | > | > IE6sp1
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > zip from an
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > e-mail and Gary walked my through the
| | overinstall.
| || > I
| || > | | > follow
| || > | | > | >> your
| || > | | > | >> | > | > advice
| || > | | > | >> | > | > on
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > just about
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > every post. Forgive me for not answering
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > all but
| | we
| || > | spent
| || > | | > | >> about
| || > | | > | >> 24
| || > | | > | >> | > | > hours
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > just going
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > through this. This is my third day and we
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > are
| || > finally
| || > | | > fixed.
| || > | | > | >> I
| || > | | > | >> | > think
| || > | | > | >> | > | > what
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > did it is I
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > removed my firewall.....'Trial of
| || > Transgressions'....I
| || > | | > think
| || > | | > | >> that
| || > | | > | >> | > was
| || > | | > | >> | > | > the
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > name. and I
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > only use Avast resident protection (virus
| || > | | > scanner).....not
| || > | | > | >> web
| || > | | > | >> | > | > protection
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > or e-mail.
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > I ran scandisk.
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > I did so many things it's hard to remember
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > them
| || > all.
| || > | When
| || > | | > I
| || > | | > | >> start
| || > | | > | >> | > my
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > computer any
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > referral to ports, or joysticks, or the
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > soundcard
| || > that
| || > | I
| || > | | > | >> never
| || > | | > | >> had
| || > | | > | >> | > are
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > gone. A few
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > little quirks remain such as when I try to
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > send
| || > this
| || > | | > e-mail,
| || > | | > | >> I
| || > | | > | >> | > get
| || > | | > | >> | > an
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > error message
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > that the outbox can't be opened. So I will
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > bypass
| || > the
| || > | | > outbox
| || > | | > | >> from
| || > | | > | >> | > now
| || > | | > | >> | > | > on
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > and send
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > messages right away. At least I can get
| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > online!!! thank you all.
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net
|
|

 

[PCR]

MEB wrote:
| Thanks PCR, thought you said you had an older installation for a
| check...

I have only one, fully updated installation of Win98SE.

| BTW if you could send me your old iuhist for comparison, it
| would be appreciated.

I have only one IUHist.xml. It requires an internet connection to work.
Are you sure mine would work on your machine? I'm not sure I want to
part with it! Is it safe to have someone else look inside mine? It's a
big mess, anyhow!

| I started new testing phases after the December
| 2005 issues., so all iuhist [that I remembered to save] after, have
| not got that in it. I'd like to compare my old ones with yours to see
| what else was removed. Perhaps you may have some other things missing
| which I may not have [due to several re-installations during the
| final support days or before] or overlooked..
|
| m_brahier at hotmail dot com
|
| --
| MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| --
| _________
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:enYFst5wIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|| MEB wrote:
|| | Okay, hopefully someone has an older installation that can verify
|| | prior WU installation to confirm that aspect. Doesn't PCR run an
|| | old installation?
||
|| JUST like for you, IUHist.xml shows 823353 came in for me from
|| Windows Update. I got it one day before you.
||
|| It is not at the Catalog for Win98 in any of the categories (looking
|| for 823353 or MS04-018), which finally has begun to work again after
|| 3 days...
|| http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp
||
|| And it wasn't among my downloads from the Catalog. So, either I
|| didn't look quick enough for it or it never was there. HOWEVER...
||
|| http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=19527
|| Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018
|| Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express (823353)
||
|| ...from our IUHist.xml DOES serve to get to it. Thanks to you &
|| Terhune (especially for testing it)-- I took it in, just in case I
|| ever need to reinstall it. I took in...
||
|| . Microsoft Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1
|| IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe
|| Desc: Win32 Cabinet Self-Extractor
|| Size: 1,996,544 bytes
|| Ver: 6.00.2800.1168
||
|| I'm not sure whether the version refers to the update or the
|| Extractor. I DO verify that the files you mentioned are indeed the
|| versions I've got. Thanks again to you & Terhune.
||
|| | --
|| | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| | --
|| | _________
|| |
|| | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|| | news:egDoz10wIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|| || The 1409 versions are from KB837009. The version changes you list
|| || match my observations.
|| ||
|| || --
|| || Gary S. Terhune
|| || MS-MVP Shell/User
|| || www.grystmill.com
|| ||
|| || "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| || news:%237%23eiP0wIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|| || > Finally had some time to look at IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU
|| || >
|| || > The main files that would be apparently updated are:
|| || >
|| || > 6.00.2800.1441 - inetcomm.dll - via upgrade
|| || > 6.00.2800.1409 - via WU
|| || >
|| || > 6.00.2800.1437 - msoe.dll - via update
|| || > 6.00.2800.1409 - via WU
|| || >
|| || > 6.00.2800.1450 - wab32.dll - via update
|| || > 6.00.2800.1409 - via WU
|| || >
|| || > Of course that now means that we are basically recommending
|| || > non-official updating, though it IS based upon prior updates
|| || > provided and installed by WU
|| || > as I posted showing the iuhist.xml.
|| || >
|| || > I checked using the OE About screen, see if this is confirmed [I
|| || > haven't installed it yet as this would potentially affect
|| || > present tests].
|| || >
|| || > We could also use some verification of versions by others.
|| || >
|| || > --
|| || > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| || > --
|| || > _________
|| || >
|| || > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| || > news:eDlZzcJwIHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|| || > | Sounds like the plan...
|| || > |
|| || > | I'll have to check to see if that was one of those extra
|| || > | needed files that I had listed on the web page..if not, it
|| || > | will be
|| || > |
|| || > | --
|| || > | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| || > | --
|| || > | _________
|| || > |
|| || > | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|| || > | news:erGCAzGwIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|| || > | | After reading the KB more closely, what KB823353 really says
|| || > | | is that it does is get rid of one of minor nuisance
|| || > | | introduced by KB837009 -- like that famous wandering "~"
|| || > | | file, but also another vulnerability in IE5.5SP1. Other
|| || > | | than that, it apparently includes everything in KB837009.
|| || > | | IOW, it does replace the "previous" patch entirely. (I
|| || > | | looked inside, they look nearly identical.) So what
|| || > | | happened, probably, is that reinstalling standard IE6SP1
|| || > | | over whatever she already had installed (including
|| || > | | KB823353) caused a mix-up that had WU seeing KB837009 as
|| || > | | required, not noting that KB823353 was already present.
|| || > | | Reinstalling KB837009 was only necessary in order to stop
|| || > | | WU from wanting to install it (and it fails silently).
|| || > | |
|| || > | | I'm thinking that while it wasn't necessary to reinstall
|| || > | | KB837009, except to stop any nagging by WU, it was a good
|| || > | | idea to reinstall KB823353. As for PA Bear's encounter, it
|| || > | | sound's like that was an XP machine or it had an unofficial
|| || > | | patch installed, then reinstalled IE or something similar
|| || > | | and ran into the same issue, just with later versions.
|| || > | |
|| || > | | Anyway, I'm adding KB823353 to my Updates CDs just as soon
|| || > | | as another CD burning session is called for, which will be
|| || > | | pretty soon.
|| || > | |
|| || > | | --
|| || > | | Gary S. Terhune
|| || > | | MS-MVP Shell/User
|| || > | | www.grystmill.com
|| || > | |
|| || > | | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| || > | | news:%23WJibtEwIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|| || > | | > Agreed, makes no sense except for the issues involved with
|| || > | | > its installation.
|| || > | | >
|| || > | | > Issues related to its installation > end of support >
|| || > | | > remove it from WU.
|| || > | | >
|| || > | | > This isn't the only file/update previously offered via WU,
|| || > | | > now "missing in action".
|| || > | | >
|| || > | | > --
|| || > | | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| || > | | > --
|| || > | | > _________
|| || > | | >
|| || > | | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|| || > | | > news:%23Jb$dmDwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|| || > | | > | Makes no sense, part deux...
|| || > | | > |
|| || > | | > | Result is that KB823353 is not considered a Critical
|| || > | | > | Update and thus shouldn't appear at WU. Yet it is listed
|| || > | | > | as a replacement for KB837009 which IS a Critical Update
|| || > | | > | (and apparently for good reason.)
|| || > | | > |
|| || > | | > | The SecUp CD precedes these Updates by a good two years.
|| | Shouldn't
|| || > be
|| || > | | > any
|| || > | | > | part of the problem.
|| || > | | > |
|| || > | | > | --
|| || > | | > | Gary S. Terhune
|| || > | | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
|| || > | | > | www.grystmill.com
|| || > | | > |
|| || > | | > | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|| || > | | > | news:%23OnszBDwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|| || > | | > | > Only thing I can glean from that is that I see why the
|| || > | | > | > switch listed in that exchange I linked to didn't
|| || > | | > | > work: It's /n:v, not /nv.
|| || > | | > | >
|| || > | | > | > I dunno, I'm tired of it. There have been too many
|| || > | | > | > different versions of IE/OE installed on the machine,
|| || > | | > | > starting with AOHell ten years ago and ending with
|| || > | | > | > whatever her cable ISP installed. In any case, my test
|| || > | | > | > machine is a mess from playing with that Auto-Patcher,
|| || > | | > | > and yet it
|| | would
|| || > seem
|| || > | | > that
|| || > | | > | > Windows Updates is not offering the some updates that
|| || > | | > | > it
|| | should
|| || > be.
|| || > | | > 837009
|| || > | | > | > is the latest one for OE, and even during all the
|| || > | | > | > testing I did when putting together the Updates
|| || > | | > | > packages, I never saw any of these later versions,
|| || > | | > | > even though they're supposed to be offered by WU.
|| || > | | > | >
|| || > | | > | > --
|| || > | | > | > Gary S. Terhune
|| || > | | > | > MS-MVP Shell/User
|| || > | | > | > www.grystmill.com
|| || > | | > | >
|| || > | | > | > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| || > | | > | > news:uQnf5zCwIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|| || > | | > | >> 837009 is listed on this system. The only 82**** in
|| || > | | > | >> Add/Remove I presently
|| || > | | > | >> have is 823559. Its not shown in IE or iuhist either.
|| || > | | > | >> Would
|| || > this
|| || > be
|| || > | | > | >> related
|| || > | | > | >> to the SecCD usage perhaps?
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> I agree, if that was, in fact, the supposed
|| || > | | > | >> update/supercede, then that is
|| || > | | > | >> what should be offered. There were installation
|| || > | | > | >> issues associated with it,
|| || > | | > | >> so MAYBE Microsoft determined it would just
|| || > | | > | >> delete/not offer
|| | it
|| || > or
|| || > | | > SecCD
|| || > | | > | >> somehow over-rides installation. It did, however,
|| || > | | > | >> appear in the old installations [not SecCD updated]
|| || > | | > | >> documented in 2006.
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> Affected Software:
|| || > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT® Workstation 4.0 Service Pack
|| || > | | > | >> 6a . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Service Pack 6a
|| || > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Terminal Server
|| || > | | > | >> Edition
|| || > Service
|| || > | | > Pack
|| || > | | > 6
|| || > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 2, Microsoft
|| || > | | > | >> Windows 2000 Service Pack
|| || > | | > | >> 3, Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
|| || > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows XP and Microsoft Windows XP
|| || > | | > | >> Service Pack 1 . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition
|| || > | | > | >> Service Pack 1 . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition
|| || > | | > | >> Version 2003 . Microsoft Windows ServerT 2003
|| || > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows Server 2003 64-Bit Edition
|| || > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows 98, Microsoft Windows 98 Second
|| || > | | > | >> Edition (SE), and Microsoft Windows Millennium
|| || > | | > | >> Edition (Me) - Review the FAQ section of this
|| || > | | > | >> bulletin for details about these operating systems.
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> INFORMATION/DATA saved for 823353 shows [02/07 and
|| || > | | > | >> 02/16 of 2006]:
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >>> Answering to PA Bear, now with 887797 and 897715
|| || > | | > | >>> missing,
|| || > 823353
|| || > | is
|| || > | | > the
|| || > | | > | >> only
|| || > | | > | >>> reported update by Windows update...
|| || > | | > | >>>
|| || > | | > | >>> msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll are now 6.00.2800.1478
|| || > | | > | >>> while wab32.dll is
|| || > | | > | >>> 6.00.2800.1106.
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> Well, msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll have the version
|| || > | | > | >> numbers of the files contained in KB887797 *not*
|| || > | | > | >> KB823353 while the wab32.dll is the version coming
|| || > | | > | >> with plain SP1 (no KB823353 nor KB887797 installed).
|| || > | | > | >> You have a "wonderful" mix of versions there on your
|| || > | | > | >> machine right now :-/
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> So I stress you to install KB823353 with the /n:v
|| || > | | > | >> parameter once again (IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe
|| || > | | > | >> /n:v). Please try this one in normal mode, *not* safe
|| || > | | > | >> mode. Afterwards please compare the versions of the
|| || > | | > | >> following files with the ones on your machine - yes,
|| || > | | > | >> *all* of them! In the brackets you can find the
|| || > | | > | >> version and date of the files wich are contained in
|| || > | | > | >> KB823353:
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> directdb.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
|| || > | | > | >> inetcomm.dll (6.0.2800.1441 - 07.06.2004)
|| || > | | > | >> inetres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| || > | | > | >> msident.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| || > | | > | >> msimn.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| || > | | > | >> msoe.dll (6.0.2800.1437 - 26.05.2004)
|| || > | | > | >> msoeacct.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| || > | | > | >> msoeres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| || > | | > | >> msoert2.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
|| || > | | > | >> oeimport.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| || > | | > | >> oemig50.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| || > | | > | >> oemiglib.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| || > | | > | >> wab32.dll (6.0.2800.1450 - 24.06.2004)
|| || > | | > | >> wab.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| || > | | > | >> wabfind.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| || > | | > | >> wabimp.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
|| || > | | > | >> wabmig.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> Could you please afterwards open Internet Explorer,
|| || > | | > | >> have look in "? -> Info" and please post *all* what's
|| || > | | > | >> listet there behind and under the "Update Version"
|| || > | | > | >> section? Yes *all* these "Q......"'s.
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> AND:
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 1:39 pm
|| || > | | > | >> From: "PA Bear"
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> Thanks, Freudi.
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> Dimitri, here's another description of how to do what
|| | Freudi's
|| || > | asked
|| || > | | > you
|| || > | | > | >> to
|| || > | | > | >> try:
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> <paste>
|| || > | | > | >> Close OE. Clear History, delete Cookies and delete
|| || > | | > | >> Temporary Internet Files
|| || > | | > | >> via IE: Tools > Options > General, then...
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> 1. Download the Cumulative Security Update for
|| || > | | > | >> Outlook
|| | Express
|| || > 6
|| || > | | > Service
|| || > | | > | >> Pack 1 (KB823353 all OSS) from the following link,
|| || > | | > | >> saving it to your Desktop:
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | >
|| || > |
|| || >
|| |
||
|
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...BC-DAF0-4EAB-89B8-BD702B3E3E5D&displaylang=en
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> (or http://snipurl.com/8x9i)
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> [ Optional: 2. Restart the computer in Safe Mode.
|| || > | | > | >> (During the reboot, keep
|| || > | | > | >> pressing the F8 key until the Windows Startup menu
|| || > | | > | >> appears > Choose Safe Mode > Enter.) ]
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> 3. Rename the downloaded file to KB823353.EXE and
|| || > | | > | >> copy it to C:\ (the root
|| || > | | > | >> directory of drive C assumes drive C is the boot
|| || > | | > | >> drive)
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> 4. Start > Run > (type in) C:\KB823353.EXE /N:V (Note
|| || > | | > | >> the space) press ENTER
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> 5. Close the command window.
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> 6. Reboot [into Windows] and then check in at Windows
|| || > | | > | >> Update to see KB823353
|| || > | | > | >> is still offered.
|| || > | | > | >> </paste>
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> Don't install any other OE updates, just answer #6
|| || > | | > | >> above and either state the current versions of
|| || > | | > | >> MSOE.DLL and INETCOMM.DLL or post your reply using
|| || > | | > | >> OE instead of the web interface.
|| || > | | > | >> ~PA Bear
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> Ottmar Freudenberger wrote:
|| || > | | > | >> <snip>
|| || > | | > | >>> Okay, so you've skipped the steps I've mentioned
|| || > | | > | >>> after having KB823353 installed? -)
|| || > | | > | >>>
|| || > | | > | >>> Uninstall them (KB887797 and KB897715) once again
|| || > | | > | >>> please.
|| || > | | > | >>>
|| || > | | > | >>> After you've unistalled them, try to install
|| || > | | > | >>> KB823353 with the parameter "/n:v".
|| || > | | > | >>> Assuming you've saved the
|| || > | | > | >>> "IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe"
|| || > file
|| || > in
|| || > | | > | >>> "C:\Downloads", you would have to enter the
|| || > | | > | >>> following in
|| | "Run"
|| || > in
|| || > | | > the
|| || > | | > | >>> Start menu:
|| || > | | > | >>>
|| || > | | > | >>> C:\Downloads\IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe /n:v
|| || > | | > | >>>
|| || > | | > | >>> Note, there's a blank after the EXE and no blank in
|| || > | | > | >>> the parameter. Let me know, if the installation of
|| || > | | > | >>> KB823353 has been successful this time
|| || > | | > | >> <snip>
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 6:19 pm
|| || > | | > | >> From: "PA Bear"
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> ActiveX controls may not load as expected in Internet
|| | Explorer
|| || > due
|| || > | to
|| || > | | > | >> defense in depth changes introduced in cumulative
|| || > | | > | >> security update 896688 (MS05-052):
|| || > http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909889
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> A Web page that contains a custom ActiveX control may
|| || > | | > | >> not load as expected
|| || > | | > | >> in Internet Explorer due to defense in depth changes
|| || > | | > | >> introduced in cumulative security update 896688
|| || > | | > | >> (MS05-052):
|| || > | | > | >> http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909738
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> => The fix detailed in 909889 involving the Registry
|| || > | | > | >> and OLE32.DLL is available at
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> - http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip or
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> - http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/kb896688_fix.zip
|| || > | | > | >> (a small
|| | VB
|| || > app
|| || > | | > that
|| || > | | > | >> checks the 4 values and offers a repair option if any
|| || > | | > | >> of them are incorrect).
|| || > | | > | >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
|| || > | | > | >> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security),
|| || > | | > | >> Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >>> Ralf wrote:
|| || > | | > | >>> > I'd like to let the group know that the odd
|| || > | | > | >>> > behavior issue
|| || > which
|| || > | | > has
|| || > | | > | >> been
|| || > | | > | >>> > reported from various sources after installing the
|| || > | | > | >>> > December Microsoft Updates has been solved. I've
|| || > | | > | >>> > posted the details on my blog at
|| || > | | > | >>> > http://www.rottmann.net .
|| || > | | > | >>> >
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> --
|| || > | | > | >> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| || > | | > | >> --
|| || > | | > | >> _________
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | > | >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|| || > | | > | >> news:%2361bRhCwIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|| || > | | > | >> | Oh yeah... That /nv switch didn't work when I tried
|| || > | | > | >> | it.
|| | What
|| || > I
|| || > | | > don't
|| || > | | > | >> get
|| || > | | > | >> is
|| || > | | > | >> | where she got 823353, since I've yet to see it
|| || > | | > | >> | offered by Windows Updates. Thing is, KB823353 =
|| || > | | > | >> | MS04-18, whereas KB837009 = MS04-13.
|| | The
|| || > | notes
|| || > | | > in
|| || > | | > | >> | MS04-18 say that it replaces MS04-13.
|| || > | | > | >> |
|| || > | | > | >> | IOW, it would seem a failure of WU to not offer
|| || > | | > | >> | KB823353 to
|| || > my
|| || > | | > system.
|| || > | | > | >> I'd
|| || > | | > | >> | be interested to know from folks: In Add/Remove
|| || > | | > | >> | Programs,
|| | do
|| || > you
|| || > | | > have
|| || > | | > | >> either
|| || > | | > | >> | of these Updates listed (or both)?
|| || > | | > | >> |
|| || > | | > | >> | --
|| || > | | > | >> | Gary S. Terhune
|| || > | | > | >> | MS-MVP Shell/User
|| || > | | > | >> | www.grystmill.com
|| || > | | > | >> |
|| || > | | > | >> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| || > | | > | >> | news:u6qeXOCwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|| || > | | > | >> | > Frankly I'm not sure. When done with everything
|| || > | | > | >> | > else [file checks, anti-v/SpyWare, etc.] run
|| || > | | > | >> | > C:\WINDOWS\QFECheck.exe and see
|| || > if
|| || > | | > anything
|| || > | | > | >> is
|| || > | | > | >> | > messed up.
|| || > | | > | >> | > Might cross-check the Windows Update.log and
|| || > | | > | >> | > iuhist.xml
|| | if
|| || > you
|| || > | | > used
|| || > | | > | >> | > windowsupdate during the process.
|| || > | | > | >> | >
|| || > | | > | >> | > --
|| || > | | > | >> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| || > | | > | >> | > --
|| || > | | > | >> | > _________
|| || > | | > | >> | >
|| || > | | > | >> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|| || > | | > | >> | > news:uxvuLTBwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|| || > | | > | >> | > | Uninstalled 823353, installed 837009,
|| || > | | > | >> | > | reinstalled
|| | 82353.
|| || > But
|| || > | | > I'm
|| || > | | > | >> not
|| || > | | > | >> | > clear
|| || > | | > | >> | > | that that was the thing to do. We were getting
|| || > | | > | >> | > | blitzy,
|| | so
|| || > I'm
|| || > | | > not
|| || > | | > | >> sure.
|| || > | | > | >> | > |
|| || > | | > | >> | > | --
|| || > | | > | >> | > | Gary S. Terhune
|| || > | | > | >> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
|| || > | | > | >> | > | www.grystmill.com
|| || > | | > | >> | > |
|| || > | | > | >> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in
|| || > | | > | >> | > | message
|| || > | | > | >> | > | news:OE$y%23F8vIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > Did you fix it with /N:V fix, or the reg
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > entry, or
|| | are
|| || > | there
|| || > | | > | >> still
|| || > | | > | >> | > issues
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > with it? Just curious..
|| || > | | > | >> | > | >
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > --
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > --
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > _________
|| || > | | > | >> | > | >
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > news:uPntGK7vIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | The mystery still remains as to where MSXML
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | 4.0 SP1
|| || > came
|| || > | | > from,
|| || > | | > | >> and
|| || > | | > | >> | > what
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | disappeared those three other files, but
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | what
|| | caused
|| || > some
|| || > | | > grief
|| || > | | > | >> was
|| || > | | > | >> | > that
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > the
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | machine was out of disk space. So we made
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | some,
|| | were
|| || > able
|| || > | | > to
|| || > | | > | >> get
|| || > | | > | >> rid
|| || > | | > | >> | > of
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > the
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | firewall and a couple of other things,
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | update some
|| || > apps,
|| || > | | > | >> reinstall
|| || > | | > | >> | > IE,
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > etc.
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | There is another firewall in the mix, on
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | the Belkin
|| || > | router,
|| || > | | > and
|| || > | | > | >> it
|| || > | | > | >> | > seems
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > to
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | be blocking Avast!, too. So we discovered
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | that
|| || > leaving
|| || > | Web
|| || > | | > | >> Shield
|| || > | | > | >> | > out
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > fixed
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | the problem with Avast!, just before their
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | tech
|| || > response,
|| || > | | > | >> though
|| || > | | > | >> it
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > doesn't
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | explain how the no-browser-allowed problem
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | was
|| || > occurring
|| || > | | > when
|| || > | | > | >> Avast!
|| || > | | > | >> | > was
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | worked all day, today.
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > |
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | I suspect further malware, but the system
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | is 98
|| || > Original
|| || > | | > and
|| || > | | > is
|| || > | | > | >> the
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > original
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | install. Had AOL for various years, then
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | EarthLink,
|| || > then
|| || > | | > this
|| || > | | > | >> cable
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > company,
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | all with their installations of branded
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | stuff, and
|| || > the
|| || > | | > cable
|| || > | | > | >> | > company's
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | "reach into your system and FIX things"
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | umbilical,
|| || > it's
|| || > | | > hard
|| || > | | > to
|| || > | | > | >> sort
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > stuff
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | out. Cleaned up what was necessary to
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | clean up
|| || > (machine
|| || > | | > will
|| || > | | > be
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > replaced,
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | soon.) Further scans need to be run and a
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | HJT log done right.
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > |
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | Had a problem with Outlook Express after
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | reinstall
|| | of
|| || > IE.
|| || > | | > Went
|| || > | | > | >> to
|| || > | | > | >> WU
|| || > | | > | >> | > and
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > got
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | three updates, but then went back and one
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | kept
|| | being
|| || > | | > reoffered.
|| || > | | > | >> This
|| || > | | > | >> | > was
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > the
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | issue:
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > |
|| || > | | > | >> | >
|| || > | | > | >>
|| || > | | >
|| || >
||
http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > |
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | More to come if I remember more...
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > |
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | --
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | www.grystmill.com
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > |
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > |
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | message
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > Thank you everyone! I really appreciate
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > you
|| || > sticking
|| || > | with
|| || > | | > me
|| || > | | > | >> | > through
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > this.
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > Someone
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I
|| | installed
|| || > them
|| || > | | > and
|| || > | | > | >> was
|| || > | | > | >> | > able
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > to
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > run the
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > help. I
|| || > cleaned
|| || > | | > up
|| || > | | > my
|| || > | | > | >> | > startup
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > items with help
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > from the group. I deleted a lot of
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > unnecessary
|| || > files.
|| || > I
|| || > | | > | >> download
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > IE6sp1
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > zip from an
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > e-mail and Gary walked my through the
|| | overinstall.
|| || > I
|| || > | | > follow
|| || > | | > | >> your
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > advice
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > on
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > just about
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > every post. Forgive me for not answering
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > all but
|| | we
|| || > | spent
|| || > | | > | >> about
|| || > | | > | >> 24
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > hours
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > just going
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > through this. This is my third day and we
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > are
|| || > finally
|| || > | | > fixed.
|| || > | | > | >> I
|| || > | | > | >> | > think
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > what
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > did it is I
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > removed my firewall.....'Trial of
|| || > Transgressions'....I
|| || > | | > think
|| || > | | > | >> that
|| || > | | > | >> | > was
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > the
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > name. and I
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > only use Avast resident protection (virus
|| || > | | > scanner).....not
|| || > | | > | >> web
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > protection
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > or e-mail.
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > I ran scandisk.
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > I did so many things it's hard to
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > remember them
|| || > all.
|| || > | When
|| || > | | > I
|| || > | | > | >> start
|| || > | | > | >> | > my
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > computer any
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > referral to ports, or joysticks, or the
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > soundcard
|| || > that
|| || > | I
|| || > | | > | >> never
|| || > | | > | >> had
|| || > | | > | >> | > are
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > gone. A few
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > little quirks remain such as when I try
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > to send
|| || > this
|| || > | | > e-mail,
|| || > | | > | >> I
|| || > | | > | >> | > get
|| || > | | > | >> | > an
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > error message
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > that the outbox can't be opened. So I
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > will bypass
|| || > the
|| || > | | > outbox
|| || > | | > | >> from
|| || > | | > | >> | > now
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > on
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > and send
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > messages right away. At least I can get
|| || > | | > | >> | > | > | > online!!! thank you all.
||
|| --
|| Thanks or Good Luck,
|| There may be humor in this post, and,
|| Naturally, you will not sue,
|| Should things get worse after this,
|| PCR
|| pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[MEB]

HAHA, you really don't mean that right,, all your iuhist.xml shows is what
WU installed and when,,, of course if your worried that somehow makes you
vulnerable,,, then take a pill... then send it. Its WU's history
file...period.

The only way it would or could be a mess is if YOU manually edited it, its
automatically created/added to by WU. And no, it doesn't need an Internet
connection to work,, its only connection to the NET [supposedly] is to WU...

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:uHBPRK7wIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| MEB wrote:
| | Thanks PCR, thought you said you had an older installation for a
| | check...
|
| I have only one, fully updated installation of Win98SE.
|
| | BTW if you could send me your old iuhist for comparison, it
| | would be appreciated.
|
| I have only one IUHist.xml. It requires an internet connection to work.
| Are you sure mine would work on your machine? I'm not sure I want to
| part with it! Is it safe to have someone else look inside mine? It's a
| big mess, anyhow!
|
| | I started new testing phases after the December
| | 2005 issues., so all iuhist [that I remembered to save] after, have
| | not got that in it. I'd like to compare my old ones with yours to see
| | what else was removed. Perhaps you may have some other things missing
| | which I may not have [due to several re-installations during the
| | final support days or before] or overlooked..
| |
| | m_brahier at hotmail dot com
| |
| | --
| | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| | --
| | _________
| |
| | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| | news:enYFst5wIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| || MEB wrote:
| || | Okay, hopefully someone has an older installation that can verify
| || | prior WU installation to confirm that aspect. Doesn't PCR run an
| || | old installation?
| ||
| || JUST like for you, IUHist.xml shows 823353 came in for me from
| || Windows Update. I got it one day before you.
| ||
| || It is not at the Catalog for Win98 in any of the categories (looking
| || for 823353 or MS04-018), which finally has begun to work again after
| || 3 days...
| || http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp
| ||
| || And it wasn't among my downloads from the Catalog. So, either I
| || didn't look quick enough for it or it never was there. HOWEVER...
| ||
| || http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=19527
| || Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018
| || Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express (823353)
| ||
| || ...from our IUHist.xml DOES serve to get to it. Thanks to you &
| || Terhune (especially for testing it)-- I took it in, just in case I
| || ever need to reinstall it. I took in...
| ||
| || . Microsoft Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1
| || IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe
| || Desc: Win32 Cabinet Self-Extractor
| || Size: 1,996,544 bytes
| || Ver: 6.00.2800.1168
| ||
| || I'm not sure whether the version refers to the update or the
| || Extractor. I DO verify that the files you mentioned are indeed the
| || versions I've got. Thanks again to you & Terhune.
| ||
| || | --
| || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| || | --
| || | _________
| || |
| || | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| || | news:egDoz10wIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| || || The 1409 versions are from KB837009. The version changes you list
| || || match my observations.
| || ||
| || || --
| || || Gary S. Terhune
| || || MS-MVP Shell/User
| || || www.grystmill.com
| || ||
| || || "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| || || news:%237%23eiP0wIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| || || > Finally had some time to look at IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU
| || || >
| || || > The main files that would be apparently updated are:
| || || >
| || || > 6.00.2800.1441 - inetcomm.dll - via upgrade
| || || > 6.00.2800.1409 - via WU
| || || >
| || || > 6.00.2800.1437 - msoe.dll - via update
| || || > 6.00.2800.1409 - via WU
| || || >
| || || > 6.00.2800.1450 - wab32.dll - via update
| || || > 6.00.2800.1409 - via WU
| || || >
| || || > Of course that now means that we are basically recommending
| || || > non-official updating, though it IS based upon prior updates
| || || > provided and installed by WU
| || || > as I posted showing the iuhist.xml.
| || || >
| || || > I checked using the OE About screen, see if this is confirmed [I
| || || > haven't installed it yet as this would potentially affect
| || || > present tests].
| || || >
| || || > We could also use some verification of versions by others.
| || || >
| || || > --
| || || > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| || || > --
| || || > _________
| || || >
| || || > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| || || > news:eDlZzcJwIHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| || || > | Sounds like the plan...
| || || > |
| || || > | I'll have to check to see if that was one of those extra
| || || > | needed files that I had listed on the web page..if not, it
| || || > | will be
| || || > |
| || || > | --
| || || > | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| || || > | --
| || || > | _________
| || || > |
| || || > | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| || || > | news:erGCAzGwIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| || || > | | After reading the KB more closely, what KB823353 really says
| || || > | | is that it does is get rid of one of minor nuisance
| || || > | | introduced by KB837009 -- like that famous wandering "~"
| || || > | | file, but also another vulnerability in IE5.5SP1. Other
| || || > | | than that, it apparently includes everything in KB837009.
| || || > | | IOW, it does replace the "previous" patch entirely. (I
| || || > | | looked inside, they look nearly identical.) So what
| || || > | | happened, probably, is that reinstalling standard IE6SP1
| || || > | | over whatever she already had installed (including
| || || > | | KB823353) caused a mix-up that had WU seeing KB837009 as
| || || > | | required, not noting that KB823353 was already present.
| || || > | | Reinstalling KB837009 was only necessary in order to stop
| || || > | | WU from wanting to install it (and it fails silently).
| || || > | |
| || || > | | I'm thinking that while it wasn't necessary to reinstall
| || || > | | KB837009, except to stop any nagging by WU, it was a good
| || || > | | idea to reinstall KB823353. As for PA Bear's encounter, it
| || || > | | sound's like that was an XP machine or it had an unofficial
| || || > | | patch installed, then reinstalled IE or something similar
| || || > | | and ran into the same issue, just with later versions.
| || || > | |
| || || > | | Anyway, I'm adding KB823353 to my Updates CDs just as soon
| || || > | | as another CD burning session is called for, which will be
| || || > | | pretty soon.
| || || > | |
| || || > | | --
| || || > | | Gary S. Terhune
| || || > | | MS-MVP Shell/User
| || || > | | www.grystmill.com
| || || > | |
| || || > | | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| || || > | | news:%23WJibtEwIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| || || > | | > Agreed, makes no sense except for the issues involved with
| || || > | | > its installation.
| || || > | | >
| || || > | | > Issues related to its installation > end of support >
| || || > | | > remove it from WU.
| || || > | | >
| || || > | | > This isn't the only file/update previously offered via WU,
| || || > | | > now "missing in action".
| || || > | | >
| || || > | | > --
| || || > | | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| || || > | | > --
| || || > | | > _________
| || || > | | >
| || || > | | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| || || > | | > news:%23Jb$dmDwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| || || > | | > | Makes no sense, part deux...
| || || > | | > |
| || || > | | > | Result is that KB823353 is not considered a Critical
| || || > | | > | Update and thus shouldn't appear at WU. Yet it is listed
| || || > | | > | as a replacement for KB837009 which IS a Critical Update
| || || > | | > | (and apparently for good reason.)
| || || > | | > |
| || || > | | > | The SecUp CD precedes these Updates by a good two years.
| || | Shouldn't
| || || > be
| || || > | | > any
| || || > | | > | part of the problem.
| || || > | | > |
| || || > | | > | --
| || || > | | > | Gary S. Terhune
| || || > | | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| || || > | | > | www.grystmill.com
| || || > | | > |
| || || > | | > | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| || || > | | > | news:%23OnszBDwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| || || > | | > | > Only thing I can glean from that is that I see why the
| || || > | | > | > switch listed in that exchange I linked to didn't
| || || > | | > | > work: It's /n:v, not /nv.
| || || > | | > | >
| || || > | | > | > I dunno, I'm tired of it. There have been too many
| || || > | | > | > different versions of IE/OE installed on the machine,
| || || > | | > | > starting with AOHell ten years ago and ending with
| || || > | | > | > whatever her cable ISP installed. In any case, my test
| || || > | | > | > machine is a mess from playing with that Auto-Patcher,
| || || > | | > | > and yet it
| || | would
| || || > seem
| || || > | | > that
| || || > | | > | > Windows Updates is not offering the some updates that
| || || > | | > | > it
| || | should
| || || > be.
| || || > | | > 837009
| || || > | | > | > is the latest one for OE, and even during all the
| || || > | | > | > testing I did when putting together the Updates
| || || > | | > | > packages, I never saw any of these later versions,
| || || > | | > | > even though they're supposed to be offered by WU.
| || || > | | > | >
| || || > | | > | > --
| || || > | | > | > Gary S. Terhune
| || || > | | > | > MS-MVP Shell/User
| || || > | | > | > www.grystmill.com
| || || > | | > | >
| || || > | | > | > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| || || > | | > | > news:uQnf5zCwIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| || || > | | > | >> 837009 is listed on this system. The only 82**** in
| || || > | | > | >> Add/Remove I presently
| || || > | | > | >> have is 823559. Its not shown in IE or iuhist either.
| || || > | | > | >> Would
| || || > this
| || || > be
| || || > | | > | >> related
| || || > | | > | >> to the SecCD usage perhaps?
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> I agree, if that was, in fact, the supposed
| || || > | | > | >> update/supercede, then that is
| || || > | | > | >> what should be offered. There were installation
| || || > | | > | >> issues associated with it,
| || || > | | > | >> so MAYBE Microsoft determined it would just
| || || > | | > | >> delete/not offer
| || | it
| || || > or
| || || > | | > SecCD
| || || > | | > | >> somehow over-rides installation. It did, however,
| || || > | | > | >> appear in the old installations [not SecCD updated]
| || || > | | > | >> documented in 2006.
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> Affected Software:
| || || > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT® Workstation 4.0 Service Pack
| || || > | | > | >> 6a . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Service Pack 6a
| || || > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Terminal Server
| || || > | | > | >> Edition
| || || > Service
| || || > | | > Pack
| || || > | | > 6
| || || > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 2, Microsoft
| || || > | | > | >> Windows 2000 Service Pack
| || || > | | > | >> 3, Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
| || || > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows XP and Microsoft Windows XP
| || || > | | > | >> Service Pack 1 . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition
| || || > | | > | >> Service Pack 1 . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition
| || || > | | > | >> Version 2003 . Microsoft Windows ServerT 2003
| || || > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows Server 2003 64-Bit Edition
| || || > | | > | >> . Microsoft Windows 98, Microsoft Windows 98 Second
| || || > | | > | >> Edition (SE), and Microsoft Windows Millennium
| || || > | | > | >> Edition (Me) - Review the FAQ section of this
| || || > | | > | >> bulletin for details about these operating systems.
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> INFORMATION/DATA saved for 823353 shows [02/07 and
| || || > | | > | >> 02/16 of 2006]:
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >>> Answering to PA Bear, now with 887797 and 897715
| || || > | | > | >>> missing,
| || || > 823353
| || || > | is
| || || > | | > the
| || || > | | > | >> only
| || || > | | > | >>> reported update by Windows update...
| || || > | | > | >>>
| || || > | | > | >>> msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll are now 6.00.2800.1478
| || || > | | > | >>> while wab32.dll is
| || || > | | > | >>> 6.00.2800.1106.
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> Well, msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll have the version
| || || > | | > | >> numbers of the files contained in KB887797 *not*
| || || > | | > | >> KB823353 while the wab32.dll is the version coming
| || || > | | > | >> with plain SP1 (no KB823353 nor KB887797 installed).
| || || > | | > | >> You have a "wonderful" mix of versions there on your
| || || > | | > | >> machine right now :-/
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> So I stress you to install KB823353 with the /n:v
| || || > | | > | >> parameter once again (IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe
| || || > | | > | >> /n:v). Please try this one in normal mode, *not* safe
| || || > | | > | >> mode. Afterwards please compare the versions of the
| || || > | | > | >> following files with the ones on your machine - yes,
| || || > | | > | >> *all* of them! In the brackets you can find the
| || || > | | > | >> version and date of the files wich are contained in
| || || > | | > | >> KB823353:
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> directdb.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
| || || > | | > | >> inetcomm.dll (6.0.2800.1441 - 07.06.2004)
| || || > | | > | >> inetres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || || > | | > | >> msident.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || || > | | > | >> msimn.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || || > | | > | >> msoe.dll (6.0.2800.1437 - 26.05.2004)
| || || > | | > | >> msoeacct.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || || > | | > | >> msoeres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || || > | | > | >> msoert2.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
| || || > | | > | >> oeimport.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || || > | | > | >> oemig50.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || || > | | > | >> oemiglib.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || || > | | > | >> wab32.dll (6.0.2800.1450 - 24.06.2004)
| || || > | | > | >> wab.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || || > | | > | >> wabfind.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || || > | | > | >> wabimp.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| || || > | | > | >> wabmig.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> Could you please afterwards open Internet Explorer,
| || || > | | > | >> have look in "? -> Info" and please post *all* what's
| || || > | | > | >> listet there behind and under the "Update Version"
| || || > | | > | >> section? Yes *all* these "Q......"'s.
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> AND:
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 1:39 pm
| || || > | | > | >> From: "PA Bear"
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> Thanks, Freudi.
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> Dimitri, here's another description of how to do what
| || | Freudi's
| || || > | asked
| || || > | | > you
| || || > | | > | >> to
| || || > | | > | >> try:
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> <paste>
| || || > | | > | >> Close OE. Clear History, delete Cookies and delete
| || || > | | > | >> Temporary Internet Files
| || || > | | > | >> via IE: Tools > Options > General, then...
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> 1. Download the Cumulative Security Update for
| || || > | | > | >> Outlook
| || | Express
| || || > 6
| || || > | | > Service
| || || > | | > | >> Pack 1 (KB823353 all OSS) from the following link,
| || || > | | > | >> saving it to your Desktop:
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | >
| || || > |
| || || >
| || |
| ||
| |
|
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...BC-DAF0-4EAB-89B8-BD702B3E3E5D&displaylang=en
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> (or http://snipurl.com/8x9i)
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> [ Optional: 2. Restart the computer in Safe Mode.
| || || > | | > | >> (During the reboot, keep
| || || > | | > | >> pressing the F8 key until the Windows Startup menu
| || || > | | > | >> appears > Choose Safe Mode > Enter.) ]
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> 3. Rename the downloaded file to KB823353.EXE and
| || || > | | > | >> copy it to C:\ (the root
| || || > | | > | >> directory of drive C assumes drive C is the boot
| || || > | | > | >> drive)
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> 4. Start > Run > (type in) C:\KB823353.EXE /N:V (Note
| || || > | | > | >> the space) press ENTER
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> 5. Close the command window.
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> 6. Reboot [into Windows] and then check in at Windows
| || || > | | > | >> Update to see KB823353
| || || > | | > | >> is still offered.
| || || > | | > | >> </paste>
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> Don't install any other OE updates, just answer #6
| || || > | | > | >> above and either state the current versions of
| || || > | | > | >> MSOE.DLL and INETCOMM.DLL or post your reply using
| || || > | | > | >> OE instead of the web interface.
| || || > | | > | >> ~PA Bear
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> Ottmar Freudenberger wrote:
| || || > | | > | >> <snip>
| || || > | | > | >>> Okay, so you've skipped the steps I've mentioned
| || || > | | > | >>> after having KB823353 installed? -)
| || || > | | > | >>>
| || || > | | > | >>> Uninstall them (KB887797 and KB897715) once again
| || || > | | > | >>> please.
| || || > | | > | >>>
| || || > | | > | >>> After you've unistalled them, try to install
| || || > | | > | >>> KB823353 with the parameter "/n:v".
| || || > | | > | >>> Assuming you've saved the
| || || > | | > | >>> "IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe"
| || || > file
| || || > in
| || || > | | > | >>> "C:\Downloads", you would have to enter the
| || || > | | > | >>> following in
| || | "Run"
| || || > in
| || || > | | > the
| || || > | | > | >>> Start menu:
| || || > | | > | >>>
| || || > | | > | >>> C:\Downloads\IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe /n:v
| || || > | | > | >>>
| || || > | | > | >>> Note, there's a blank after the EXE and no blank in
| || || > | | > | >>> the parameter. Let me know, if the installation of
| || || > | | > | >>> KB823353 has been successful this time
| || || > | | > | >> <snip>
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 6:19 pm
| || || > | | > | >> From: "PA Bear"
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> ActiveX controls may not load as expected in Internet
| || | Explorer
| || || > due
| || || > | to
| || || > | | > | >> defense in depth changes introduced in cumulative
| || || > | | > | >> security update 896688 (MS05-052):
| || || > http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909889
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> A Web page that contains a custom ActiveX control may
| || || > | | > | >> not load as expected
| || || > | | > | >> in Internet Explorer due to defense in depth changes
| || || > | | > | >> introduced in cumulative security update 896688
| || || > | | > | >> (MS05-052):
| || || > | | > | >> http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909738
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> => The fix detailed in 909889 involving the Registry
| || || > | | > | >> and OLE32.DLL is available at
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> - http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip or
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> - http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/kb896688_fix.zip
| || || > | | > | >> (a small
| || | VB
| || || > app
| || || > | | > that
| || || > | | > | >> checks the 4 values and offers a repair option if any
| || || > | | > | >> of them are incorrect).
| || || > | | > | >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| || || > | | > | >> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security),
| || || > | | > | >> Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >>> Ralf wrote:
| || || > | | > | >>> > I'd like to let the group know that the odd
| || || > | | > | >>> > behavior issue
| || || > which
| || || > | | > has
| || || > | | > | >> been
| || || > | | > | >>> > reported from various sources after installing the
| || || > | | > | >>> > December Microsoft Updates has been solved. I've
| || || > | | > | >>> > posted the details on my blog at
| || || > | | > | >>> > http://www.rottmann.net .
| || || > | | > | >>> >
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> --
| || || > | | > | >> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| || || > | | > | >> --
| || || > | | > | >> _________
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | > | >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| || || > | | > | >> news:%2361bRhCwIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| || || > | | > | >> | Oh yeah... That /nv switch didn't work when I tried
| || || > | | > | >> | it.
| || | What
| || || > I
| || || > | | > don't
| || || > | | > | >> get
| || || > | | > | >> is
| || || > | | > | >> | where she got 823353, since I've yet to see it
| || || > | | > | >> | offered by Windows Updates. Thing is, KB823353 =
| || || > | | > | >> | MS04-18, whereas KB837009 = MS04-13.
| || | The
| || || > | notes
| || || > | | > in
| || || > | | > | >> | MS04-18 say that it replaces MS04-13.
| || || > | | > | >> |
| || || > | | > | >> | IOW, it would seem a failure of WU to not offer
| || || > | | > | >> | KB823353 to
| || || > my
| || || > | | > system.
| || || > | | > | >> I'd
| || || > | | > | >> | be interested to know from folks: In Add/Remove
| || || > | | > | >> | Programs,
| || | do
| || || > you
| || || > | | > have
| || || > | | > | >> either
| || || > | | > | >> | of these Updates listed (or both)?
| || || > | | > | >> |
| || || > | | > | >> | --
| || || > | | > | >> | Gary S. Terhune
| || || > | | > | >> | MS-MVP Shell/User
| || || > | | > | >> | www.grystmill.com
| || || > | | > | >> |
| || || > | | > | >> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| || || > | | > | >> | news:u6qeXOCwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| || || > | | > | >> | > Frankly I'm not sure. When done with everything
| || || > | | > | >> | > else [file checks, anti-v/SpyWare, etc.] run
| || || > | | > | >> | > C:\WINDOWS\QFECheck.exe and see
| || || > if
| || || > | | > anything
| || || > | | > | >> is
| || || > | | > | >> | > messed up.
| || || > | | > | >> | > Might cross-check the Windows Update.log and
| || || > | | > | >> | > iuhist.xml
| || | if
| || || > you
| || || > | | > used
| || || > | | > | >> | > windowsupdate during the process.
| || || > | | > | >> | >
| || || > | | > | >> | > --
| || || > | | > | >> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| || || > | | > | >> | > --
| || || > | | > | >> | > _________
| || || > | | > | >> | >
| || || > | | > | >> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| || || > | | > | >> | > news:uxvuLTBwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| || || > | | > | >> | > | Uninstalled 823353, installed 837009,
| || || > | | > | >> | > | reinstalled
| || | 82353.
| || || > But
| || || > | | > I'm
| || || > | | > | >> not
| || || > | | > | >> | > clear
| || || > | | > | >> | > | that that was the thing to do. We were getting
| || || > | | > | >> | > | blitzy,
| || | so
| || || > I'm
| || || > | | > not
| || || > | | > | >> sure.
| || || > | | > | >> | > |
| || || > | | > | >> | > | --
| || || > | | > | >> | > | Gary S. Terhune
| || || > | | > | >> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| || || > | | > | >> | > | www.grystmill.com
| || || > | | > | >> | > |
| || || > | | > | >> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in
| || || > | | > | >> | > | message
| || || > | | > | >> | > | news:OE$y%23F8vIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > Did you fix it with /N:V fix, or the reg
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > entry, or
| || | are
| || || > | there
| || || > | | > | >> still
| || || > | | > | >> | > issues
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > with it? Just curious..
| || || > | | > | >> | > | >
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > --
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > --
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > _________
| || || > | | > | >> | > | >
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > news:uPntGK7vIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | The mystery still remains as to where MSXML
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | 4.0 SP1
| || || > came
| || || > | | > from,
| || || > | | > | >> and
| || || > | | > | >> | > what
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | disappeared those three other files, but
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | what
| || | caused
| || || > some
| || || > | | > grief
| || || > | | > | >> was
| || || > | | > | >> | > that
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > the
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | machine was out of disk space. So we made
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | some,
| || | were
| || || > able
| || || > | | > to
| || || > | | > | >> get
| || || > | | > | >> rid
| || || > | | > | >> | > of
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > the
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | firewall and a couple of other things,
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | update some
| || || > apps,
| || || > | | > | >> reinstall
| || || > | | > | >> | > IE,
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > etc.
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | There is another firewall in the mix, on
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | the Belkin
| || || > | router,
| || || > | | > and
| || || > | | > | >> it
| || || > | | > | >> | > seems
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > to
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | be blocking Avast!, too. So we discovered
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | that
| || || > leaving
| || || > | Web
| || || > | | > | >> Shield
| || || > | | > | >> | > out
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > fixed
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | the problem with Avast!, just before their
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | tech
| || || > response,
| || || > | | > | >> though
| || || > | | > | >> it
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > doesn't
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | explain how the no-browser-allowed problem
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | was
| || || > occurring
| || || > | | > when
| || || > | | > | >> Avast!
| || || > | | > | >> | > was
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | worked all day, today.
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > |
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | I suspect further malware, but the system
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | is 98
| || || > Original
| || || > | | > and
| || || > | | > is
| || || > | | > | >> the
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > original
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | install. Had AOL for various years, then
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | EarthLink,
| || || > then
| || || > | | > this
| || || > | | > | >> cable
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > company,
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | all with their installations of branded
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | stuff, and
| || || > the
| || || > | | > cable
| || || > | | > | >> | > company's
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | "reach into your system and FIX things"
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | umbilical,
| || || > it's
| || || > | | > hard
| || || > | | > to
| || || > | | > | >> sort
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > stuff
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | out. Cleaned up what was necessary to
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | clean up
| || || > (machine
| || || > | | > will
| || || > | | > be
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > replaced,
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | soon.) Further scans need to be run and a
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | HJT log done right.
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > |
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | Had a problem with Outlook Express after
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | reinstall
| || | of
| || || > IE.
| || || > | | > Went
| || || > | | > | >> to
| || || > | | > | >> WU
| || || > | | > | >> | > and
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > got
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | three updates, but then went back and one
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | kept
| || | being
| || || > | | > reoffered.
| || || > | | > | >> This
| || || > | | > | >> | > was
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > the
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | issue:
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > |
| || || > | | > | >> | >
| || || > | | > | >>
| || || > | | >
| || || >
| ||
| http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > |
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | More to come if I remember more...
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > |
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | --
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | www.grystmill.com
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > |
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > |
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | message
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > Thank you everyone! I really appreciate
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > you
| || || > sticking
| || || > | with
| || || > | | > me
| || || > | | > | >> | > through
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > this.
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > Someone
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I
| || | installed
| || || > them
| || || > | | > and
| || || > | | > | >> was
| || || > | | > | >> | > able
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > to
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > run the
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > help. I
| || || > cleaned
| || || > | | > up
| || || > | | > my
| || || > | | > | >> | > startup
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > items with help
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > from the group. I deleted a lot of
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > unnecessary
| || || > files.
| || || > I
| || || > | | > | >> download
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > IE6sp1
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > zip from an
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > e-mail and Gary walked my through the
| || | overinstall.
| || || > I
| || || > | | > follow
| || || > | | > | >> your
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > advice
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > on
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > just about
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > every post. Forgive me for not answering
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > all but
| || | we
| || || > | spent
| || || > | | > | >> about
| || || > | | > | >> 24
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > hours
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > just going
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > through this. This is my third day and we
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > are
| || || > finally
| || || > | | > fixed.
| || || > | | > | >> I
| || || > | | > | >> | > think
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > what
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > did it is I
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > removed my firewall.....'Trial of
| || || > Transgressions'....I
| || || > | | > think
| || || > | | > | >> that
| || || > | | > | >> | > was
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > the
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > name. and I
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > only use Avast resident protection (virus
| || || > | | > scanner).....not
| || || > | | > | >> web
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > protection
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > or e-mail.
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > I ran scandisk.
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > I did so many things it's hard to
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > remember them
| || || > all.
| || || > | When
| || || > | | > I
| || || > | | > | >> start
| || || > | | > | >> | > my
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > computer any
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > referral to ports, or joysticks, or the
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > soundcard
| || || > that
| || || > | I
| || || > | | > | >> never
| || || > | | > | >> had
| || || > | | > | >> | > are
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > gone. A few
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > little quirks remain such as when I try
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > to send
| || || > this
| || || > | | > e-mail,
| || || > | | > | >> I
| || || > | | > | >> | > get
| || || > | | > | >> | > an
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > error message
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > that the outbox can't be opened. So I
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > will bypass
| || || > the
| || || > | | > outbox
| || || > | | > | >> from
| || || > | | > | >> | > now
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > on
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > and send
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > messages right away. At least I can get
| || || > | | > | >> | > | > | > online!!! thank you all.
| ||
| || --
| || Thanks or Good Luck,
| || There may be humor in this post, and,
| || Naturally, you will not sue,
| || Should things get worse after this,
| || PCR
| || pcrrcp@netzero.net
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net
|
|

 

[Angel]

Will SpywareBlaster prevent me from going to places that I know are safe?
Does it prevent you from going to the places that the SpywareBlaster think
that is unsafe to go? Can you choose the places you need to go?
There are some surveys that I do that need, I think, the ActiveX. That was
one of the reasons that I did not install it before this. Please explain the
pros and cons of SpywareBlaster.

Angel

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:eLgKTyzwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: Google is your friend. But here's the manufacturer's links:
: Info: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
: Download: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS-MVP Shell/User
: www.grystmill.com
:
: "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: news:eLU4ZrzwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: > Gary,
: >
: > It is the one you sent on the CD, "Protection Applications". When I did
: > the
: > Explorer for the folder, "Spyblaster", it says "Spyblaster setup
351.exe"
: > Under date 9/17/06. How do I get the 4.0 version?
: >
: > Angel
: >
: > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > news:OV15eVrwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : Might want to make sure it's the latest version, 4.0, then install it.
: > It's
: > : pretty straight-forward. Requires a restart. Then run the app, and in
: > the
: > : Welcome dialog, click Next, choose Manual Updating, click Next, then
: > click
: > : Finish.
: > :
: > : Now, click Updates on the left column, then the Check for Updates
: > button.
: > : When the updating finishes, click on Protection Status at left and
then
: > at
: > : the bottom, under Quick Tasks, Enable All Protection.
: > :
: > : Do that every week or two.
: > :
: > : --
: > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : www.grystmill.com
: > :
: > :
: > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : news:%2310SGjqwIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : > Yes Gary,
: > : > I found it, but I never installed it. I have to figure out the
: > : > instructions. I read the text but have to read it again.
: > : > Angel
: > : >
: > : > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > news:eg%23zpGqwIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
: > : > : No Gary, I do not have SypwareBlaster installed. I don't even
think
: > I
: > : > have
: > : > : it.
: > : > :
: > : > : Angel
: > : > :
: > : > : "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > : news:Od9njRpwIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : > : : You're fine, except you left out one very important app --
: > : > SypwareBlaster.
: > : > : : You DO have that installed, don't you? And you keep it up to
date?
: > : > : :
: > : > : : --
: > : > : : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : : www.grystmill.com
: > : > : :
: > : > : : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > : : news:%23Fraq3owIHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
: > : > : : > Yeah Gary, she sure could use the exercise. Send them anytime.
: > We
: > : > are
: > : > : : > beginning to call her "Fat Cat" instead of "Streaker". George
: > says
: > : > she
: > : > : is
: > : > : : > a
: > : > : : > Bowling Ball with legs! She was fat when I got her. Right now,
: > she
: > : > is
: > : > : : > sleeping on my old Contour chair. The chair does not adjust
very
: > : > well
: > : > : : > anymore, most of the time it only has one position. It needs a
: > new
: > : > one.
: > : > : I
: > : > : : > bought it long before I retired 16 years ago.
: > : > : : >
: > : > : : > I uninstalled the AdAware last night. So far, no problems
: > because
: > I
: > : > : : > uninstalled it. I still have Avast! and Spybot 1.4. I have not
: > : > updated
: > : > : the
: > : > : : > Spybot lately. I just don't know which updates to use.
: > : > : : >
: > : > : : > Angel
: > : > : : >
: > : > : : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > : : > news:%23sy$sobwIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: > : > : : > : I can send you a poodle or two to chase teh cat. Keep it
busy.
: > : > : : > :
: > : > : : > : --
: > : > : : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : : > : www.grystmill.com
: > : > : : > :
: > : > : : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > : : > : news:uXJrWPZwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : > : : > : > Yes, I already knew that it will take a while for the pain
: > to
: > : > : subside.
: > : > : : > : > Even
: > : > : : > : > the pain pills don't work that well. Gary, I am prepared
: > for
: > a
: > : > long
: > : > : : > hall,
: > : > : : > : > but you know I do not give up or in easily. You are not
: > : > pessimistic
: > : > : : > only
: > : > : : > : > truthful. This is no picnic, if you know what I mean.
: > : > : : > : >
: > : > : : > : > My cat is on the footstool I am trying to use. She takes
up
: > most
: > : > of
: > : > : : > the
: > : > : : > : > footstool. Since I got home, she does not let me out of
her
: > : > sight.
: > : > I
: > : > : : > : > finally
: > : > : : > : > got her to move off the stool. How? I picked her up and
put
: > her
: > : > off.
: > : > : : > She
: > : > : : > : > did
: > : > : : > : > not accept that. I had to do it again. She is stubborn and
: > don't
: > : > : give
: > : > : : > up
: > : > : : > : > easily neither.
: > : > : : > : >
: > : > : : > : > Angel
: > : > : : > : >
: > : > : : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > : : > : > news:eeK3b$RwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : > : : > : > : Sounds like you need someone who can follow instructions
: > and
: > : > has
: > : > a
: > : > : : > good
: > : > : : > : > back
: > : > : : > : > : to get in there and help you rearrange things to your
: > comfort.
: > : > : After
: > : > : : > : > all,
: > : > : : > : > : these pains aren't going to go away real soon (sorry to
be
: > : > : : > pessimistic,
: > : > : : > : > but
: > : > : : > : > : I'd rather you got comfy ASAP.)
: > : > : : > : > :
: > : > : : > : > : As for standing on one's head while standing in one's
: > head...
: > : > I
: > : > : used
: > : > : : > to
: > : > : : > : > do
: > : > : : > : > : that on a regular basis, <bg>.
: > : > : : > : > :
: > : > : : > : > : --
: > : > : : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : : > : > : www.grystmill.com
: > : > : : > : > :
: > : > : : > : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > : : > : > : news:ucwOR8RwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
: > : > : : > : > : > Gary, how would that be possible! "Standing in my
head"?
: > I
: > : > never
: > : > : : > would
: > : > : : > : > try
: > : > : : > : > : > that! I don't even think I could stand ON my head not
: > alone
: > : > IN
: > : > : my
: > : > : : > : > head!!
: > : > : : > : > : > Have you tried it? HaHaHa!!
: > : > : : > : > : >
: > : > : : > : > : > I do use a foot stool, when I can in front of the
: > computer.
: > : > My
: > : > : cat
: > : > : : > and
: > : > : : > : > I
: > : > : : > : > : > argue over it. She decided to take it over. I also use
: > the
: > : > arm
: > : > : of
: > : > : : > the
: > : > : : > : > : > office
: > : > : : > : > : > chair for my arm, it relieves the shoulder pain some.
: > : > : : > : > : >
: > : > : : > : > : > Angel
: > : > : : > : > : >
: > : > : : > : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > : : > : > : > news:e0vC6MRwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : > : : > : > : > : Knowing Angel the way I do, I think she should try
: > : > standing
: > : > in
: > : > : : > her
: > : > : : > : > head,
: > : > : : > : > : > : <eg>.
: > : > : : > : > : > :
: > : > : : > : > : > : --
: > : > : : > : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : : > : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : : > : > : > : www.grystmill.com
: > : > : : > : > : > :
: > : > : : > : > : > : "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
: > : > : : > : > : > : news:483dd8cc$0$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...
: > : > : : > : > : > : > Angel, If you just put a ottoman or stool with
: > pillow
: > or
: > : > : towel
: > : > : : > in
: > : > : : > : > : > front
: > : > : : > : > : > of
: > : > : : > : > : > : > you at the
: > : > : : > : > : > : > computer, it can work just as well as above the
: > heart.
: > : > Of
: > : > : : > course,
: > : > : : > : > : > laying
: > : > : : > : > : > : > down with
: > : > : : > : > : > : > feet elevated is optimal but no one really expects
: > you
: > : > to
: > : > do
: > : > : : > that.
: > : > : : > : > : > Sorry
: > : > : : > : > : > : > for your
: > : > : : > : > : > : > problems. Ginny R.N.
: > : > : : > : > : > : > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > : : > : > : > : > news:%23la3KVQwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> Hi Gary,
: > : > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> Doing pretty good. Don't stay on the computer
very
: > long
: > : > at
: > : > : a
: > : > : : > : > time.
: > : > : : > : > : > Still
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> trouble with the shoulder not cooperating. The
: > ankle
: > : > swells
: > : > : : > up
: > : > : : > : > quite
: > : > : : > : > : > a
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> bit.
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> Supposed to keep the leg elevated above the heart
: > to
: > : > keep
: > : > : the
: > : > : : > : > : > swelling
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> down,
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> yeah right! Should I stand on my head?
: > : > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> When you go to yahoo! mail, you go to Options and
: > : > follow
: > : > : the
: > : > : : > : > : > directions
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> under Preferences and you get it in text and when
: > you
: > : > get
: > : > : the
: > : > : : > : > mail,
: > : > : : > : > : > you
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> can
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> go to the bottom of the page and hit HTML or at
the
: > top
: > : > of
: > : > : : > the
: > : > : : > : > email
: > : > : : > : > : > and
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> hit
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> the show images. EASY!
: > : > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> Angel
: > : > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> news:%23gbu8CHwIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : Hi, Angel! How ya doin'? I didn't know that
about
: > : > Yahoo!
: > : > : : > Mail.
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : --
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : www.grystmill.com
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : news:%23IMYJiEwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > Hi all,
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > You can also use that method in the yahoo web
: > mail.
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > Angel
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > news:OThQZYDwIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : If you follow proper security habits,
: > including
: > : > : setting
: > : > : : > : > email
: > : > : : > : > : > apps
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> to
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > only
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : read messages in Plain Text, you never have
: > to
: > : > worry
: > : > : : > about
: > : > : : > : > any
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> viruses
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : getting in. Doesn't matter what client you
: > use.
: > : > If
: > : > : you
: > : > : : > get
: > : > : : > : > a
: > : > : : > : > : > POS
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> HTML
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > email
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : that can't be read in PT, and you trust the
: > : > source,
: > : > : : > then
: > : > : : > : > you
: > : > : : > : > : > can
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> change
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > to
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : view in HTML (in OE, anyway.)
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : --
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : www.grystmill.com
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
: > : > news:2ooo34t082va22nc9rv0np3cr5sf9ckjhm@4ax.com...
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > I should have mentioned that Outlook
: > Express
: > is
: > : > : very
: > : > : : > poor
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> software
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > that will allow viruses to infect your
: > : > computer.
: > : > I
: > : > : : > wont
: > : > : : > : > even
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> allow
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > that POS on my computer. I deleted the
: > entire
: > : > : : > directory
: > : > : : > : > many
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> years
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > ago. I'd highly recommend finding
another
: > : > email
: > : > : : > software
: > : > : : > : > as
: > : > : : > : > : > well
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> as
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > another usenet software. (some do both,
: > such
: > as
: > : > the
: > : > : : > newer
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> versions
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> of
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > Agent).
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
: > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
: > : > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : > : : > : > : > : >
: > : > : : > : > : > : >
: > : > : : > : > : > :
: > : > : : > : > : >
: > : > : : > : > : >
: > : > : : > : > :
: > : > : : > : >
: > : > : : > : >
: > : > : : > :
: > : > : : >
: > : > : : >
: > : > : :
: > : > :
: > : > :
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: >
: >
:

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
news:%23lef40$wIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Will SpywareBlaster prevent me from going to places that I know are safe?

Shouldn't. All it does is put nasty (and I mean NASTY, DANGEROUS) sites into
the Restricted Zone and block certain ActiveX controls (also *known* to be
nasty, not just *suspected* to be nasty or inconvenient.) It does not use a
HOSTS file, which actually prevents access to sites, it just puts them into
a strait-jacket.

> Does it prevent you from going to the places that the SpywareBlaster think
> that is unsafe to go? Can you choose the places you need to go?

It doesn't prevent you from going anywhere. It just won't let nasty stuff
from any sites run on your system. If you want to see what that stuff is,
compare the Internet Zone and the Restricted Zone settings in Internet
Options. And read about the ActiveX stuff that is listed when you click on
Internet Explorer under Protection Status in the left column. I don't mean
about ActiveX in general, I mean look up the specifically named items in
that list.

> There are some surveys that I do that need, I think, the ActiveX. That was
> one of the reasons that I did not install it before this. Please explain
> the
> pros and cons of SpywareBlaster.

I don't understand what you mean in that first sentence, but as I said, the
ActiveX stuff it protects against are NASTY! Period! If you go to a site and
the functions you want to work don't work because if SpywareBlaster, then
you really should reconsider why you need to go to that site. Because it has
intentionally malicious content. SpywareBlaster is not a dumb,
block-everything that's mildly suspicious, application. The things that are
blocked are, without any doubt, nasties.

Those are the pros of SpywareBlaster. I know of no cons. If you have any
literature that claims SpywareBlaster has any cons, I'd be interested in
reading it.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

>
> Angel
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:eLgKTyzwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : Google is your friend. But here's the manufacturer's links:
> : Info: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
> : Download: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html
> :
> : --
> : Gary S. Terhune
> : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : www.grystmill.com
> :
> : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : news:eLU4ZrzwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> : > Gary,
> : >
> : > It is the one you sent on the CD, "Protection Applications". When I
> did
> : > the
> : > Explorer for the folder, "Spyblaster", it says "Spyblaster setup
> 351.exe"
> : > Under date 9/17/06. How do I get the 4.0 version?
> : >
> : > Angel
> : >
> : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > news:OV15eVrwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : Might want to make sure it's the latest version, 4.0, then install
> it.
> : > It's
> : > : pretty straight-forward. Requires a restart. Then run the app, and
> in
> : > the
> : > : Welcome dialog, click Next, choose Manual Updating, click Next, then
> : > click
> : > : Finish.
> : > :
> : > : Now, click Updates on the left column, then the Check for Updates
> : > button.
> : > : When the updating finishes, click on Protection Status at left and
> then
> : > at
> : > : the bottom, under Quick Tasks, Enable All Protection.
> : > :
> : > : Do that every week or two.
> : > :
> : > : --
> : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : news:%2310SGjqwIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : > Yes Gary,
> : > : > I found it, but I never installed it. I have to figure out the
> : > : > instructions. I read the text but have to read it again.
> : > : > Angel
> : > : >
> : > : > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : > news:eg%23zpGqwIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : No Gary, I do not have SypwareBlaster installed. I don't even
> think
> : > I
> : > : > have
> : > : > : it.
> : > : > :
> : > : > : Angel
> : > : > :
> : > : > : "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : > : news:Od9njRpwIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : : You're fine, except you left out one very important app --
> : > : > SypwareBlaster.
> : > : > : : You DO have that installed, don't you? And you keep it up to
> date?
> : > : > : :
> : > : > : : --
> : > : > : : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > : :
> : > : > : : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : : news:%23Fraq3owIHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : : > Yeah Gary, she sure could use the exercise. Send them
> anytime.
> : > We
> : > : > are
> : > : > : : > beginning to call her "Fat Cat" instead of "Streaker".
> George
> : > says
> : > : > she
> : > : > : is
> : > : > : : > a
> : > : > : : > Bowling Ball with legs! She was fat when I got her. Right
> now,
> : > she
> : > : > is
> : > : > : : > sleeping on my old Contour chair. The chair does not adjust
> very
> : > : > well
> : > : > : : > anymore, most of the time it only has one position. It needs
> a
> : > new
> : > : > one.
> : > : > : I
> : > : > : : > bought it long before I retired 16 years ago.
> : > : > : : >
> : > : > : : > I uninstalled the AdAware last night. So far, no problems
> : > because
> : > I
> : > : > : : > uninstalled it. I still have Avast! and Spybot 1.4. I have
> not
> : > : > updated
> : > : > : the
> : > : > : : > Spybot lately. I just don't know which updates to use.
> : > : > : : >
> : > : > : : > Angel
> : > : > : : >
> : > : > : : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : > : : > news:%23sy$sobwIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : : > : I can send you a poodle or two to chase teh cat. Keep it
> busy.
> : > : > : : > :
> : > : > : : > : --
> : > : > : : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > : : > :
> : > : > : : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : : > : news:uXJrWPZwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : : > : > Yes, I already knew that it will take a while for the
> pain
> : > to
> : > : > : subside.
> : > : > : : > : > Even
> : > : > : : > : > the pain pills don't work that well. Gary, I am
> prepared
> : > for
> : > a
> : > : > long
> : > : > : : > hall,
> : > : > : : > : > but you know I do not give up or in easily. You are not
> : > : > pessimistic
> : > : > : : > only
> : > : > : : > : > truthful. This is no picnic, if you know what I mean.
> : > : > : : > : >
> : > : > : : > : > My cat is on the footstool I am trying to use. She takes
> up
> : > most
> : > : > of
> : > : > : : > the
> : > : > : : > : > footstool. Since I got home, she does not let me out of
> her
> : > : > sight.
> : > : > I
> : > : > : : > : > finally
> : > : > : : > : > got her to move off the stool. How? I picked her up and
> put
> : > her
> : > : > off.
> : > : > : : > She
> : > : > : : > : > did
> : > : > : : > : > not accept that. I had to do it again. She is stubborn
> and
> : > don't
> : > : > : give
> : > : > : : > up
> : > : > : : > : > easily neither.
> : > : > : : > : >
> : > : > : : > : > Angel
> : > : > : : > : >
> : > : > : : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : > : : > : > news:eeK3b$RwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : : > : > : Sounds like you need someone who can follow
> instructions
> : > and
> : > : > has
> : > : > a
> : > : > : : > good
> : > : > : : > : > back
> : > : > : : > : > : to get in there and help you rearrange things to your
> : > comfort.
> : > : > : After
> : > : > : : > : > all,
> : > : > : : > : > : these pains aren't going to go away real soon (sorry
> to
> be
> : > : > : : > pessimistic,
> : > : > : : > : > but
> : > : > : : > : > : I'd rather you got comfy ASAP.)
> : > : > : : > : > :
> : > : > : : > : > : As for standing on one's head while standing in one's
> : > head...
> : > : > I
> : > : > : used
> : > : > : : > to
> : > : > : : > : > do
> : > : > : : > : > : that on a regular basis, <bg>.
> : > : > : : > : > :
> : > : > : : > : > : --
> : > : > : : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : : > : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > : : > : > :
> : > : > : : > : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : : > : > : news:ucwOR8RwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : : > : > : > Gary, how would that be possible! "Standing in my
> head"?
> : > I
> : > : > never
> : > : > : : > would
> : > : > : : > : > try
> : > : > : : > : > : > that! I don't even think I could stand ON my head
> not
> : > alone
> : > : > IN
> : > : > : my
> : > : > : : > : > head!!
> : > : > : : > : > : > Have you tried it? HaHaHa!!
> : > : > : : > : > : >
> : > : > : : > : > : > I do use a foot stool, when I can in front of the
> : > computer.
> : > : > My
> : > : > : cat
> : > : > : : > and
> : > : > : : > : > I
> : > : > : : > : > : > argue over it. She decided to take it over. I also
> use
> : > the
> : > : > arm
> : > : > : of
> : > : > : : > the
> : > : > : : > : > : > office
> : > : > : : > : > : > chair for my arm, it relieves the shoulder pain
> some.
> : > : > : : > : > : >
> : > : > : : > : > : > Angel
> : > : > : : > : > : >
> : > : > : : > : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : > : : > : > : > news:e0vC6MRwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : : > : > : > : Knowing Angel the way I do, I think she should try
> : > : > standing
> : > : > in
> : > : > : : > her
> : > : > : : > : > head,
> : > : > : : > : > : > : <eg>.
> : > : > : : > : > : > :
> : > : > : : > : > : > : --
> : > : > : : > : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : : > : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : : > : > : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > : : > : > : > :
> : > : > : : > : > : > : "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : : > : > : > : news:483dd8cc$0$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> : > : > : : > : > : > : > Angel, If you just put a ottoman or stool with
> : > pillow
> : > or
> : > : > : towel
> : > : > : : > in
> : > : > : : > : > : > front
> : > : > : : > : > : > of
> : > : > : : > : > : > : > you at the
> : > : > : : > : > : > : > computer, it can work just as well as above the
> : > heart.
> : > : > Of
> : > : > : : > course,
> : > : > : : > : > : > laying
> : > : > : : > : > : > : > down with
> : > : > : : > : > : > : > feet elevated is optimal but no one really
> expects
> : > you
> : > : > to
> : > : > do
> : > : > : : > that.
> : > : > : : > : > : > Sorry
> : > : > : : > : > : > : > for your
> : > : > : : > : > : > : > problems. Ginny R.N.
> : > : > : : > : > : > : > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : : > : > : > : > news:%23la3KVQwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Hi Gary,
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Doing pretty good. Don't stay on the computer
> very
> : > long
> : > : > at
> : > : > : a
> : > : > : : > : > time.
> : > : > : : > : > : > Still
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> trouble with the shoulder not cooperating. The
> : > ankle
> : > : > swells
> : > : > : : > up
> : > : > : : > : > quite
> : > : > : : > : > : > a
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> bit.
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Supposed to keep the leg elevated above the
> heart
> : > to
> : > : > keep
> : > : > : the
> : > : > : : > : > : > swelling
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> down,
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> yeah right! Should I stand on my head?
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> When you go to yahoo! mail, you go to Options
> and
> : > : > follow
> : > : > : the
> : > : > : : > : > : > directions
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> under Preferences and you get it in text and
> when
> : > you
> : > : > get
> : > : > : the
> : > : > : : > : > mail,
> : > : > : : > : > : > you
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> can
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> go to the bottom of the page and hit HTML or at
> the
> : > top
> : > : > of
> : > : > : : > the
> : > : > : : > : > email
> : > : > : : > : > : > and
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> hit
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> the show images. EASY!
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Angel
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> news:%23gbu8CHwIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : Hi, Angel! How ya doin'? I didn't know that
> about
> : > : > Yahoo!
> : > : > : : > Mail.
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : --
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
> news:%23IMYJiEwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > Hi all,
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > You can also use that method in the yahoo
> web
> : > mail.
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > Angel
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
> news:OThQZYDwIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : If you follow proper security habits,
> : > including
> : > : > : setting
> : > : > : : > : > email
> : > : > : : > : > : > apps
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> to
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > only
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : read messages in Plain Text, you never
> have
> : > to
> : > : > worry
> : > : > : : > about
> : > : > : : > : > any
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> viruses
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : getting in. Doesn't matter what client
> you
> : > use.
> : > : > If
> : > : > : you
> : > : > : : > get
> : > : > : : > : > a
> : > : > : : > : > : > POS
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> HTML
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > email
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : that can't be read in PT, and you trust
> the
> : > : > source,
> : > : > : : > then
> : > : > : : > : > you
> : > : > : : > : > : > can
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> change
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > to
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : view in HTML (in OE, anyway.)
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : --
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
> : > : > news:2ooo34t082va22nc9rv0np3cr5sf9ckjhm@4ax.com...
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > I should have mentioned that Outlook
> : > Express
> : > is
> : > : > : very
> : > : > : : > poor
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> software
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > that will allow viruses to infect your
> : > : > computer.
> : > : > I
> : > : > : : > wont
> : > : > : : > : > even
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> allow
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > that POS on my computer. I deleted the
> : > entire
> : > : > : : > directory
> : > : > : : > : > many
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> years
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > ago. I'd highly recommend finding
> another
> : > : > email
> : > : > : : > software
> : > : > : : > : > as
> : > : > : : > : > : > well
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> as
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > another usenet software. (some do both,
> : > such
> : > as
> : > : > the
> : > : > : : > newer
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> versions
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> of
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > Agent).
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >
> : > : > : : > : > : > : >
> : > : > : : > : > : > :
> : > : > : : > : > : >
> : > : > : : > : > : >
> : > : > : : > : > :
> : > : > : : > : >
> : > : > : : > : >
> : > : > : : > :
> : > : > : : >
> : > : > : : >
> : > : > : :
> : > : > :
> : > : > :
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
>
>

 

[Angel]

Gary,
Just asking questions, wanted clarifications about it.
Angel

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%23pGIt0AxIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
: "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: news:%23lef40$wIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
: > Will SpywareBlaster prevent me from going to places that I know are
safe?
:
: Shouldn't. All it does is put nasty (and I mean NASTY, DANGEROUS) sites
into
: the Restricted Zone and block certain ActiveX controls (also *known* to be
: nasty, not just *suspected* to be nasty or inconvenient.) It does not use
a
: HOSTS file, which actually prevents access to sites, it just puts them
into
: a strait-jacket.
:
: > Does it prevent you from going to the places that the SpywareBlaster
think
: > that is unsafe to go? Can you choose the places you need to go?
:
: It doesn't prevent you from going anywhere. It just won't let nasty stuff
: from any sites run on your system. If you want to see what that stuff is,
: compare the Internet Zone and the Restricted Zone settings in Internet
: Options. And read about the ActiveX stuff that is listed when you click on
: Internet Explorer under Protection Status in the left column. I don't mean
: about ActiveX in general, I mean look up the specifically named items in
: that list.
:
: > There are some surveys that I do that need, I think, the ActiveX. That
was
: > one of the reasons that I did not install it before this. Please explain
: > the
: > pros and cons of SpywareBlaster.
:
: I don't understand what you mean in that first sentence, but as I said,
the
: ActiveX stuff it protects against are NASTY! Period! If you go to a site
and
: the functions you want to work don't work because if SpywareBlaster, then
: you really should reconsider why you need to go to that site. Because it
has
: intentionally malicious content. SpywareBlaster is not a dumb,
: block-everything that's mildly suspicious, application. The things that
are
: blocked are, without any doubt, nasties.
:
: Those are the pros of SpywareBlaster. I know of no cons. If you have any
: literature that claims SpywareBlaster has any cons, I'd be interested in
: reading it.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS-MVP Shell/User
: www.grystmill.com
:
: >
: > Angel
: >
: > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > news:eLgKTyzwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : Google is your friend. But here's the manufacturer's links:
: > : Info: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
: > : Download: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html
: > :
: > : --
: > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : www.grystmill.com
: > :
: > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : news:eLU4ZrzwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: > : > Gary,
: > : >
: > : > It is the one you sent on the CD, "Protection Applications". When I
: > did
: > : > the
: > : > Explorer for the folder, "Spyblaster", it says "Spyblaster setup
: > 351.exe"
: > : > Under date 9/17/06. How do I get the 4.0 version?
: > : >
: > : > Angel
: > : >
: > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > news:OV15eVrwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : > : Might want to make sure it's the latest version, 4.0, then install
: > it.
: > : > It's
: > : > : pretty straight-forward. Requires a restart. Then run the app, and
: > in
: > : > the
: > : > : Welcome dialog, click Next, choose Manual Updating, click Next,
then
: > : > click
: > : > : Finish.
: > : > :
: > : > : Now, click Updates on the left column, then the Check for Updates
: > : > button.
: > : > : When the updating finishes, click on Protection Status at left and
: > then
: > : > at
: > : > : the bottom, under Quick Tasks, Enable All Protection.
: > : > :
: > : > : Do that every week or two.
: > : > :
: > : > : --
: > : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : www.grystmill.com
: > : > :
: > : > :
: > : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > : news:%2310SGjqwIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > Yes Gary,
: > : > : > I found it, but I never installed it. I have to figure out
the
: > : > : > instructions. I read the text but have to read it again.
: > : > : > Angel
: > : > : >
: > : > : > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > : > news:eg%23zpGqwIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : No Gary, I do not have SypwareBlaster installed. I don't even
: > think
: > : > I
: > : > : > have
: > : > : > : it.
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : Angel
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > : > : news:Od9njRpwIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : : You're fine, except you left out one very important app --
: > : > : > SypwareBlaster.
: > : > : > : : You DO have that installed, don't you? And you keep it up to
: > date?
: > : > : > : :
: > : > : > : : --
: > : > : > : : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : > : : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : > : : www.grystmill.com
: > : > : > : :
: > : > : > : : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > : > : : news:%23Fraq3owIHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : : > Yeah Gary, she sure could use the exercise. Send them
: > anytime.
: > : > We
: > : > : > are
: > : > : > : : > beginning to call her "Fat Cat" instead of "Streaker".
: > George
: > : > says
: > : > : > she
: > : > : > : is
: > : > : > : : > a
: > : > : > : : > Bowling Ball with legs! She was fat when I got her. Right
: > now,
: > : > she
: > : > : > is
: > : > : > : : > sleeping on my old Contour chair. The chair does not
adjust
: > very
: > : > : > well
: > : > : > : : > anymore, most of the time it only has one position. It
needs
: > a
: > : > new
: > : > : > one.
: > : > : > : I
: > : > : > : : > bought it long before I retired 16 years ago.
: > : > : > : : >
: > : > : > : : > I uninstalled the AdAware last night. So far, no problems
: > : > because
: > : > I
: > : > : > : : > uninstalled it. I still have Avast! and Spybot 1.4. I have
: > not
: > : > : > updated
: > : > : > : the
: > : > : > : : > Spybot lately. I just don't know which updates to use.
: > : > : > : : >
: > : > : > : : > Angel
: > : > : > : : >
: > : > : > : : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > : > : : > news:%23sy$sobwIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : : > : I can send you a poodle or two to chase teh cat. Keep it
: > busy.
: > : > : > : : > :
: > : > : > : : > : --
: > : > : > : : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : > : : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : > : : > : www.grystmill.com
: > : > : > : : > :
: > : > : > : : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > : > : : > : news:uXJrWPZwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : : > : > Yes, I already knew that it will take a while for the
: > pain
: > : > to
: > : > : > : subside.
: > : > : > : : > : > Even
: > : > : > : : > : > the pain pills don't work that well. Gary, I am
: > prepared
: > : > for
: > : > a
: > : > : > long
: > : > : > : : > hall,
: > : > : > : : > : > but you know I do not give up or in easily. You are
not
: > : > : > pessimistic
: > : > : > : : > only
: > : > : > : : > : > truthful. This is no picnic, if you know what I mean.
: > : > : > : : > : >
: > : > : > : : > : > My cat is on the footstool I am trying to use. She
takes
: > up
: > : > most
: > : > : > of
: > : > : > : : > the
: > : > : > : : > : > footstool. Since I got home, she does not let me out
of
: > her
: > : > : > sight.
: > : > : > I
: > : > : > : : > : > finally
: > : > : > : : > : > got her to move off the stool. How? I picked her up
and
: > put
: > : > her
: > : > : > off.
: > : > : > : : > She
: > : > : > : : > : > did
: > : > : > : : > : > not accept that. I had to do it again. She is stubborn
: > and
: > : > don't
: > : > : > : give
: > : > : > : : > up
: > : > : > : : > : > easily neither.
: > : > : > : : > : >
: > : > : > : : > : > Angel
: > : > : > : : > : >
: > : > : > : : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > : > : : > : > news:eeK3b$RwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : : > : > : Sounds like you need someone who can follow
: > instructions
: > : > and
: > : > : > has
: > : > : > a
: > : > : > : : > good
: > : > : > : : > : > back
: > : > : > : : > : > : to get in there and help you rearrange things to
your
: > : > comfort.
: > : > : > : After
: > : > : > : : > : > all,
: > : > : > : : > : > : these pains aren't going to go away real soon (sorry
: > to
: > be
: > : > : > : : > pessimistic,
: > : > : > : : > : > but
: > : > : > : : > : > : I'd rather you got comfy ASAP.)
: > : > : > : : > : > :
: > : > : > : : > : > : As for standing on one's head while standing in
one's
: > : > head...
: > : > : > I
: > : > : > : used
: > : > : > : : > to
: > : > : > : : > : > do
: > : > : > : : > : > : that on a regular basis, <bg>.
: > : > : > : : > : > :
: > : > : > : : > : > : --
: > : > : > : : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : > : : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : > : : > : > : www.grystmill.com
: > : > : > : : > : > :
: > : > : > : : > : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > : > : : > : > : news:ucwOR8RwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : : > : > : > Gary, how would that be possible! "Standing in my
: > head"?
: > : > I
: > : > : > never
: > : > : > : : > would
: > : > : > : : > : > try
: > : > : > : : > : > : > that! I don't even think I could stand ON my head
: > not
: > : > alone
: > : > : > IN
: > : > : > : my
: > : > : > : : > : > head!!
: > : > : > : : > : > : > Have you tried it? HaHaHa!!
: > : > : > : : > : > : >
: > : > : > : : > : > : > I do use a foot stool, when I can in front of the
: > : > computer.
: > : > : > My
: > : > : > : cat
: > : > : > : : > and
: > : > : > : : > : > I
: > : > : > : : > : > : > argue over it. She decided to take it over. I also
: > use
: > : > the
: > : > : > arm
: > : > : > : of
: > : > : > : : > the
: > : > : > : : > : > : > office
: > : > : > : : > : > : > chair for my arm, it relieves the shoulder pain
: > some.
: > : > : > : : > : > : >
: > : > : > : : > : > : > Angel
: > : > : > : : > : > : >
: > : > : > : : > : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > : > : : > : > : > news:e0vC6MRwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : Knowing Angel the way I do, I think she should
try
: > : > : > standing
: > : > : > in
: > : > : > : : > her
: > : > : > : : > : > head,
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : <eg>.
: > : > : > : : > : > : > :
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : --
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : www.grystmill.com
: > : > : > : : > : > : > :
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : news:483dd8cc$0$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : > Angel, If you just put a ottoman or stool with
: > : > pillow
: > : > or
: > : > : > : towel
: > : > : > : : > in
: > : > : > : : > : > : > front
: > : > : > : : > : > : > of
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : > you at the
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : > computer, it can work just as well as above
the
: > : > heart.
: > : > : > Of
: > : > : > : : > course,
: > : > : > : : > : > : > laying
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : > down with
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : > feet elevated is optimal but no one really
: > expects
: > : > you
: > : > : > to
: > : > : > do
: > : > : > : : > that.
: > : > : > : : > : > : > Sorry
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : > for your
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : > problems. Ginny R.N.
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >
news:%23la3KVQwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Hi Gary,
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Doing pretty good. Don't stay on the computer
: > very
: > : > long
: > : > : > at
: > : > : > : a
: > : > : > : : > : > time.
: > : > : > : : > : > : > Still
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> trouble with the shoulder not cooperating.
The
: > : > ankle
: > : > : > swells
: > : > : > : : > up
: > : > : > : : > : > quite
: > : > : > : : > : > : > a
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> bit.
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Supposed to keep the leg elevated above the
: > heart
: > : > to
: > : > : > keep
: > : > : > : the
: > : > : > : : > : > : > swelling
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> down,
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> yeah right! Should I stand on my head?
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> When you go to yahoo! mail, you go to Options
: > and
: > : > : > follow
: > : > : > : the
: > : > : > : : > : > : > directions
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> under Preferences and you get it in text and
: > when
: > : > you
: > : > : > get
: > : > : > : the
: > : > : > : : > : > mail,
: > : > : > : : > : > : > you
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> can
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> go to the bottom of the page and hit HTML or
at
: > the
: > : > top
: > : > : > of
: > : > : > : : > the
: > : > : > : : > : > email
: > : > : > : : > : > : > and
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> hit
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> the show images. EASY!
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Angel
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
news:%23gbu8CHwIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : Hi, Angel! How ya doin'? I didn't know that
: > about
: > : > : > Yahoo!
: > : > : > : : > Mail.
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : --
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : www.grystmill.com
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
: > news:%23IMYJiEwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > Hi all,
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > You can also use that method in the yahoo
: > web
: > : > mail.
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > Angel
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
: > news:OThQZYDwIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : If you follow proper security habits,
: > : > including
: > : > : > : setting
: > : > : > : : > : > email
: > : > : > : : > : > : > apps
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> to
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > only
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : read messages in Plain Text, you never
: > have
: > : > to
: > : > : > worry
: > : > : > : : > about
: > : > : > : : > : > any
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> viruses
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : getting in. Doesn't matter what client
: > you
: > : > use.
: > : > : > If
: > : > : > : you
: > : > : > : : > get
: > : > : > : : > : > a
: > : > : > : : > : > : > POS
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> HTML
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > email
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : that can't be read in PT, and you trust
: > the
: > : > : > source,
: > : > : > : : > then
: > : > : > : : > : > you
: > : > : > : : > : > : > can
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> change
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > to
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : view in HTML (in OE, anyway.)
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : --
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : www.grystmill.com
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in
message
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
: > : > : > news:2ooo34t082va22nc9rv0np3cr5sf9ckjhm@4ax.com...
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > I should have mentioned that Outlook
: > : > Express
: > : > is
: > : > : > : very
: > : > : > : : > poor
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> software
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > that will allow viruses to infect
your
: > : > : > computer.
: > : > : > I
: > : > : > : : > wont
: > : > : > : : > : > even
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> allow
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > that POS on my computer. I deleted
the
: > : > entire
: > : > : > : : > directory
: > : > : > : : > : > many
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> years
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > ago. I'd highly recommend finding
: > another
: > : > : > email
: > : > : > : : > software
: > : > : > : : > : > as
: > : > : > : : > : > : > well
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> as
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > another usenet software. (some do
both,
: > : > such
: > : > as
: > : > : > the
: > : > : > : : > newer
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> versions
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> of
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > Agent).
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : : > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : : > : > : > :
: > : > : > : : > : > : >
: > : > : > : : > : > : >
: > : > : > : : > : > :
: > : > : > : : > : >
: > : > : > : : > : >
: > : > : > : : > :
: > : > : > : : >
: > : > : > : : >
: > : > : > : :
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > :
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > :
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: >
: >
:

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

OK, well those are the best answers I have. <s>.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
news:ebySWqCxIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Gary,
> Just asking questions, wanted clarifications about it.
> Angel
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:%23pGIt0AxIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : news:%23lef40$wIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> : > Will SpywareBlaster prevent me from going to places that I know are
> safe?
> :
> : Shouldn't. All it does is put nasty (and I mean NASTY, DANGEROUS) sites
> into
> : the Restricted Zone and block certain ActiveX controls (also *known* to
> be
> : nasty, not just *suspected* to be nasty or inconvenient.) It does not
> use
> a
> : HOSTS file, which actually prevents access to sites, it just puts them
> into
> : a strait-jacket.
> :
> : > Does it prevent you from going to the places that the SpywareBlaster
> think
> : > that is unsafe to go? Can you choose the places you need to go?
> :
> : It doesn't prevent you from going anywhere. It just won't let nasty
> stuff
> : from any sites run on your system. If you want to see what that stuff
> is,
> : compare the Internet Zone and the Restricted Zone settings in Internet
> : Options. And read about the ActiveX stuff that is listed when you click
> on
> : Internet Explorer under Protection Status in the left column. I don't
> mean
> : about ActiveX in general, I mean look up the specifically named items in
> : that list.
> :
> : > There are some surveys that I do that need, I think, the ActiveX. That
> was
> : > one of the reasons that I did not install it before this. Please
> explain
> : > the
> : > pros and cons of SpywareBlaster.
> :
> : I don't understand what you mean in that first sentence, but as I said,
> the
> : ActiveX stuff it protects against are NASTY! Period! If you go to a site
> and
> : the functions you want to work don't work because if SpywareBlaster,
> then
> : you really should reconsider why you need to go to that site. Because it
> has
> : intentionally malicious content. SpywareBlaster is not a dumb,
> : block-everything that's mildly suspicious, application. The things that
> are
> : blocked are, without any doubt, nasties.
> :
> : Those are the pros of SpywareBlaster. I know of no cons. If you have any
> : literature that claims SpywareBlaster has any cons, I'd be interested in
> : reading it.
> :
> : --
> : Gary S. Terhune
> : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : www.grystmill.com
> :
> : >
> : > Angel
> : >
> : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > news:eLgKTyzwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : Google is your friend. But here's the manufacturer's links:
> : > : Info: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
> : > : Download: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html
> : > :
> : > : --
> : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > :
> : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : news:eLU4ZrzwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> : > : > Gary,
> : > : >
> : > : > It is the one you sent on the CD, "Protection Applications". When
> I
> : > did
> : > : > the
> : > : > Explorer for the folder, "Spyblaster", it says "Spyblaster setup
> : > 351.exe"
> : > : > Under date 9/17/06. How do I get the 4.0 version?
> : > : >
> : > : > Angel
> : > : >
> : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : > news:OV15eVrwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : Might want to make sure it's the latest version, 4.0, then
> install
> : > it.
> : > : > It's
> : > : > : pretty straight-forward. Requires a restart. Then run the app,
> and
> : > in
> : > : > the
> : > : > : Welcome dialog, click Next, choose Manual Updating, click Next,
> then
> : > : > click
> : > : > : Finish.
> : > : > :
> : > : > : Now, click Updates on the left column, then the Check for
> Updates
> : > : > button.
> : > : > : When the updating finishes, click on Protection Status at left
> and
> : > then
> : > : > at
> : > : > : the bottom, under Quick Tasks, Enable All Protection.
> : > : > :
> : > : > : Do that every week or two.
> : > : > :
> : > : > : --
> : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > :
> : > : > :
> : > : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : news:%2310SGjqwIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > Yes Gary,
> : > : > : > I found it, but I never installed it. I have to figure out
> the
> : > : > : > instructions. I read the text but have to read it again.
> : > : > : > Angel
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : > news:eg%23zpGqwIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : No Gary, I do not have SypwareBlaster installed. I don't
> even
> : > think
> : > : > I
> : > : > : > have
> : > : > : > : it.
> : > : > : > :
> : > : > : > : Angel
> : > : > : > :
> : > : > : > : "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : > : > : news:Od9njRpwIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : : You're fine, except you left out one very important app --
> : > : > : > SypwareBlaster.
> : > : > : > : : You DO have that installed, don't you? And you keep it up
> to
> : > date?
> : > : > : > : :
> : > : > : > : : --
> : > : > : > : : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : > : : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : > : : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > : > : :
> : > : > : > : : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : > : : news:%23Fraq3owIHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : : > Yeah Gary, she sure could use the exercise. Send them
> : > anytime.
> : > : > We
> : > : > : > are
> : > : > : > : : > beginning to call her "Fat Cat" instead of "Streaker".
> : > George
> : > : > says
> : > : > : > she
> : > : > : > : is
> : > : > : > : : > a
> : > : > : > : : > Bowling Ball with legs! She was fat when I got her.
> Right
> : > now,
> : > : > she
> : > : > : > is
> : > : > : > : : > sleeping on my old Contour chair. The chair does not
> adjust
> : > very
> : > : > : > well
> : > : > : > : : > anymore, most of the time it only has one position. It
> needs
> : > a
> : > : > new
> : > : > : > one.
> : > : > : > : I
> : > : > : > : : > bought it long before I retired 16 years ago.
> : > : > : > : : >
> : > : > : > : : > I uninstalled the AdAware last night. So far, no
> problems
> : > : > because
> : > : > I
> : > : > : > : : > uninstalled it. I still have Avast! and Spybot 1.4. I
> have
> : > not
> : > : > : > updated
> : > : > : > : the
> : > : > : > : : > Spybot lately. I just don't know which updates to use.
> : > : > : > : : >
> : > : > : > : : > Angel
> : > : > : > : : >
> : > : > : > : : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : > : > : : > news:%23sy$sobwIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : : > : I can send you a poodle or two to chase teh cat. Keep
> it
> : > busy.
> : > : > : > : : > :
> : > : > : > : : > : --
> : > : > : > : : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : > : : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : > : : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > : > : : > :
> : > : > : > : : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : > : : > : news:uXJrWPZwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : : > : > Yes, I already knew that it will take a while for
> the
> : > pain
> : > : > to
> : > : > : > : subside.
> : > : > : > : : > : > Even
> : > : > : > : : > : > the pain pills don't work that well. Gary, I am
> : > prepared
> : > : > for
> : > : > a
> : > : > : > long
> : > : > : > : : > hall,
> : > : > : > : : > : > but you know I do not give up or in easily. You are
> not
> : > : > : > pessimistic
> : > : > : > : : > only
> : > : > : > : : > : > truthful. This is no picnic, if you know what I
> mean.
> : > : > : > : : > : >
> : > : > : > : : > : > My cat is on the footstool I am trying to use. She
> takes
> : > up
> : > : > most
> : > : > : > of
> : > : > : > : : > the
> : > : > : > : : > : > footstool. Since I got home, she does not let me out
> of
> : > her
> : > : > : > sight.
> : > : > : > I
> : > : > : > : : > : > finally
> : > : > : > : : > : > got her to move off the stool. How? I picked her up
> and
> : > put
> : > : > her
> : > : > : > off.
> : > : > : > : : > She
> : > : > : > : : > : > did
> : > : > : > : : > : > not accept that. I had to do it again. She is
> stubborn
> : > and
> : > : > don't
> : > : > : > : give
> : > : > : > : : > up
> : > : > : > : : > : > easily neither.
> : > : > : > : : > : >
> : > : > : > : : > : > Angel
> : > : > : > : : > : >
> : > : > : > : : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : > : > : : > : > news:eeK3b$RwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : : > : > : Sounds like you need someone who can follow
> : > instructions
> : > : > and
> : > : > : > has
> : > : > : > a
> : > : > : > : : > good
> : > : > : > : : > : > back
> : > : > : > : : > : > : to get in there and help you rearrange things to
> your
> : > : > comfort.
> : > : > : > : After
> : > : > : > : : > : > all,
> : > : > : > : : > : > : these pains aren't going to go away real soon
> (sorry
> : > to
> : > be
> : > : > : > : : > pessimistic,
> : > : > : > : : > : > but
> : > : > : > : : > : > : I'd rather you got comfy ASAP.)
> : > : > : > : : > : > :
> : > : > : > : : > : > : As for standing on one's head while standing in
> one's
> : > : > head...
> : > : > : > I
> : > : > : > : used
> : > : > : > : : > to
> : > : > : > : : > : > do
> : > : > : > : : > : > : that on a regular basis, <bg>.
> : > : > : > : : > : > :
> : > : > : > : : > : > : --
> : > : > : > : : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : > : : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : > : : > : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > : > : : > : > :
> : > : > : > : : > : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : > : : > : > : news:ucwOR8RwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > Gary, how would that be possible! "Standing in
> my
> : > head"?
> : > : > I
> : > : > : > never
> : > : > : > : : > would
> : > : > : > : : > : > try
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > that! I don't even think I could stand ON my
> head
> : > not
> : > : > alone
> : > : > : > IN
> : > : > : > : my
> : > : > : > : : > : > head!!
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > Have you tried it? HaHaHa!!
> : > : > : > : : > : > : >
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > I do use a foot stool, when I can in front of
> the
> : > : > computer.
> : > : > : > My
> : > : > : > : cat
> : > : > : > : : > and
> : > : > : > : : > : > I
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > argue over it. She decided to take it over. I
> also
> : > use
> : > : > the
> : > : > : > arm
> : > : > : > : of
> : > : > : > : : > the
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > office
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > chair for my arm, it relieves the shoulder pain
> : > some.
> : > : > : > : : > : > : >
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > Angel
> : > : > : > : : > : > : >
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > news:e0vC6MRwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : Knowing Angel the way I do, I think she should
> try
> : > : > : > standing
> : > : > : > in
> : > : > : > : : > her
> : > : > : > : : > : > head,
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : <eg>.
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > :
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : --
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > :
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in
> message
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : news:483dd8cc$0$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > Angel, If you just put a ottoman or stool
> with
> : > : > pillow
> : > : > or
> : > : > : > : towel
> : > : > : > : : > in
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > front
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > of
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > you at the
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > computer, it can work just as well as above
> the
> : > : > heart.
> : > : > : > Of
> : > : > : > : : > course,
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > laying
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > down with
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > feet elevated is optimal but no one really
> : > expects
> : > : > you
> : > : > : > to
> : > : > : > do
> : > : > : > : : > that.
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > Sorry
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > for your
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > problems. Ginny R.N.
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >
> news:%23la3KVQwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Hi Gary,
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Doing pretty good. Don't stay on the
> computer
> : > very
> : > : > long
> : > : > : > at
> : > : > : > : a
> : > : > : > : : > : > time.
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > Still
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> trouble with the shoulder not cooperating.
> The
> : > : > ankle
> : > : > : > swells
> : > : > : > : : > up
> : > : > : > : : > : > quite
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > a
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> bit.
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Supposed to keep the leg elevated above the
> : > heart
> : > : > to
> : > : > : > keep
> : > : > : > : the
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > swelling
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> down,
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> yeah right! Should I stand on my head?
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> When you go to yahoo! mail, you go to
> Options
> : > and
> : > : > : > follow
> : > : > : > : the
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > directions
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> under Preferences and you get it in text
> and
> : > when
> : > : > you
> : > : > : > get
> : > : > : > : the
> : > : > : > : : > : > mail,
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > you
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> can
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> go to the bottom of the page and hit HTML
> or
> at
> : > the
> : > : > top
> : > : > : > of
> : > : > : > : : > the
> : > : > : > : : > : > email
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > and
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> hit
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> the show images. EASY!
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Angel
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
> news:%23gbu8CHwIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : Hi, Angel! How ya doin'? I didn't know
> that
> : > about
> : > : > : > Yahoo!
> : > : > : > : : > Mail.
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : --
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in
> message
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
> : > news:%23IMYJiEwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > Hi all,
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > You can also use that method in the
> yahoo
> : > web
> : > : > mail.
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > Angel
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in
> message
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
> : > news:OThQZYDwIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : If you follow proper security habits,
> : > : > including
> : > : > : > : setting
> : > : > : > : : > : > email
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > apps
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> to
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > only
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : read messages in Plain Text, you
> never
> : > have
> : > : > to
> : > : > : > worry
> : > : > : > : : > about
> : > : > : > : : > : > any
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> viruses
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : getting in. Doesn't matter what
> client
> : > you
> : > : > use.
> : > : > : > If
> : > : > : > : you
> : > : > : > : : > get
> : > : > : > : : > : > a
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > POS
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> HTML
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > email
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : that can't be read in PT, and you
> trust
> : > the
> : > : > : > source,
> : > : > : > : : > then
> : > : > : > : : > : > you
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > can
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> change
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > to
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : view in HTML (in OE, anyway.)
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : --
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in
> message
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
> : > : > : > news:2ooo34t082va22nc9rv0np3cr5sf9ckjhm@4ax.com...
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > I should have mentioned that
> Outlook
> : > : > Express
> : > : > is
> : > : > : > : very
> : > : > : > : : > poor
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> software
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > that will allow viruses to infect
> your
> : > : > : > computer.
> : > : > : > I
> : > : > : > : : > wont
> : > : > : > : : > : > even
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> allow
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > that POS on my computer. I deleted
> the
> : > : > entire
> : > : > : > : : > directory
> : > : > : > : : > : > many
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> years
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > ago. I'd highly recommend finding
> : > another
> : > : > : > email
> : > : > : > : : > software
> : > : > : > : : > : > as
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > well
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> as
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > another usenet software. (some do
> both,
> : > : > such
> : > : > as
> : > : > : > the
> : > : > : > : : > newer
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> versions
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> of
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > Agent).
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >
> : > : > : > : : > : > : > :
> : > : > : > : : > : > : >
> : > : > : > : : > : > : >
> : > : > : > : : > : > :
> : > : > : > : : > : >
> : > : > : > : : > : >
> : > : > : > : : > :
> : > : > : > : : >
> : > : > : > : : >
> : > : > : > : :
> : > : > : > :
> : > : > : > :
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : >
> : > : > :
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
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[PCR]

MEB wrote:
| HAHA, you really don't mean that right,, all your iuhist.xml shows is
| what WU installed and when,,, of course if your worried that somehow
| makes you vulnerable,,, then take a pill... then send it. Its WU's
| history file...period.

The file is mysterious. It certainly seems to have online involvement,
but, yea, looks like I can set IE to "work offline", & the file still
did work-- this time! Fine-- I'll go look for a pill. In the meantime...

(a) What will you do with mine?
(b) Do you have stuff that analyses it?
(c) Send me something to analyse mine, then,
which is 93,255 bytes & tough to look at.

| The only way it would or could be a mess is if YOU manually edited
| it, its automatically created/added to by WU. And no, it doesn't need
| an Internet connection to work,, its only connection to the NET
| [supposedly] is to WU...

I've looked inside, but hopefully never deleted or moved any of the
lines. I have clicked the minus & plus signs-- is all, I think! It is
sloppy because...

(a) There are some failures. The failure reports remained inside,
although a later attempt resulted in a complete for the same update.

(b) The timestamps aren't all in order. Generally, looks like, the newer
dates are on top-- but there are plenty out of sequence!

(c) Some of the updates seem to be in the report TWICE-- & both were a
complete. For instance...!...

- <itemStatus xmlns="" timestamp="2006-06-14T19:32:42">
- <identity
itemID="win98se.windows98andwindows98secondedition.ver_platform_win32_wi
ndows.4.10.x86.en......com_microsoft.windowsmedia9-windows98me-kb917734-
x86-182459." name="WINDOWSMEDIA9-WINDOWS98ME-KB917734-X86-182459">
<publisherName>com_microsoft</publisherName>
<language>en</language>
</identity>
- <description hidden="0">
- <descriptionText>
<title>Security Update for Windows Media Player 9 for Windows 98 and
Windows ME (KB917734)</title>
<eula href="/msdownload/update/v3/static/eula/en/eula.htm" />
<details href="http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=66393" />
</descriptionText>
</description>
- <platform name="ver_platform_win32_windows">
<processorArchitecture>x86</processorArchitecture>
<version major="4" minor="10" build="" servicePackMajor=""
servicePackMinor="" />
</platform>
<downloadStatus value="COMPLETE" />

<downloadPath>h:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.WINDOWSMEDIA9-WINDOWS98ME-KB917734
-X86-182459</downloadPath>
<client>IU_Site</client>
<installStatus value="COMPLETE" needsReboot="0" />
</itemStatus>

- <itemStatus xmlns="" timestamp="2006-06-14T18:39:32">
- <identity
itemID="win98se.windows98andwindows98secondedition.ver_platform_win32_wi
ndows.4.10.x86.en......com_microsoft.windowsmedia9-windows98me-kb917734-
x86-182459." name="WINDOWSMEDIA9-WINDOWS98ME-KB917734-X86-182459">
<publisherName>com_microsoft</publisherName>
<language>en</language>
</identity>
- <description hidden="0">
- <descriptionText>
<title>Security Update for Windows Media Player 9 for Windows 98 and
Windows ME (KB917734)</title>
<eula href="/msdownload/update/v3/static/eula/en/eula.htm" />
<details href="http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=66393" />
</descriptionText>
</description>
- <platform name="ver_platform_win32_windows">
<processorArchitecture>x86</processorArchitecture>
<version major="4" minor="10" build="" servicePackMajor=""
servicePackMinor="" />
</platform>
<downloadStatus value="COMPLETE" />

<downloadPath>h:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.WINDOWSMEDIA9-WINDOWS98ME-KB917734
-X86-182459</downloadPath>
<client>IU_Site</client>

|
| --
| MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| --
| _________
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:uHBPRK7wIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|| MEB wrote:
|| | Thanks PCR, thought you said you had an older installation for a
|| | check...
||
|| I have only one, fully updated installation of Win98SE.
||
|| | BTW if you could send me your old iuhist for comparison, it
|| | would be appreciated.
||
|| I have only one IUHist.xml. It requires an internet connection to
|| work. Are you sure mine would work on your machine? I'm not sure I
|| want to part with it! Is it safe to have someone else look inside
|| mine? It's a big mess, anyhow!
||
|| | I started new testing phases after the December
|| | 2005 issues., so all iuhist [that I remembered to save] after, have
|| | not got that in it. I'd like to compare my old ones with yours to
|| | see what else was removed. Perhaps you may have some other things
|| | missing which I may not have [due to several re-installations
|| | during the final support days or before] or overlooked..
|| |
|| | m_brahier at hotmail dot com
|| |
|| | --
|| | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| | --
|| | _________
|| |
|| | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|| | news:enYFst5wIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|| || MEB wrote:
|| || | Okay, hopefully someone has an older installation that can
|| || | verify prior WU installation to confirm that aspect. Doesn't
|| || | PCR run an old installation?
|| ||
|| || JUST like for you, IUHist.xml shows 823353 came in for me from
|| || Windows Update. I got it one day before you.
|| ||
|| || It is not at the Catalog for Win98 in any of the categories
|| || (looking for 823353 or MS04-018), which finally has begun to work
|| || again after 3 days...
|| || http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp
|| ||
|| || And it wasn't among my downloads from the Catalog. So, either I
|| || didn't look quick enough for it or it never was there. HOWEVER...
|| ||
|| || http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=19527
|| || Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018
|| || Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express (823353)
|| ||
|| || ...from our IUHist.xml DOES serve to get to it. Thanks to you &
|| || Terhune (especially for testing it)-- I took it in, just in case I
|| || ever need to reinstall it. I took in...
|| ||
|| || . Microsoft Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1
|| || IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe
|| || Desc: Win32 Cabinet Self-Extractor
|| || Size: 1,996,544 bytes
|| || Ver: 6.00.2800.1168
|| ||
|| || I'm not sure whether the version refers to the update or the
|| || Extractor. I DO verify that the files you mentioned are indeed the
|| || versions I've got. Thanks again to you & Terhune.
|| ||
|| || | --
|| || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com


....snip
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[MEB]

Hehehe, I can't send you my eyes or my mind... tell you what you, send me
your file, I'll send you one of the old ones 86k.. biggest I have and likely
the best for cross-reference.
Where do you want it sent? That should tell you how much you need to be
concerned with the friggin file...

As for what to check/parse it with,, I do them by hand though SURELY someone
felt the same as you and didn't want to spend that kind of time and wrote
something, just never bothered to check. Perhaps a standard xml creator
would work to break it into the proper sectional order... maybe credible
XML,, again just never bothered to run it on it and don't have it installed
this time.... heck probably one of my web tools would work, never felt
compelled or lazy enough to check.. Besides, its a good way to remember
[repeat use] xml formatting... Have you ever done any RSS, RDF, site XML
[like for Google], or any other style of XML editing? Its a pretty common
format now, used to store data, references, information, location, lots of
other stuff.... Look at something you already have like AVAST's... I just
use UEdit, heck I could probably make a macro and run it,, just never got
around to it

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:uaDmE8DxIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| MEB wrote:
| | HAHA, you really don't mean that right,, all your iuhist.xml shows is
| | what WU installed and when,,, of course if your worried that somehow
| | makes you vulnerable,,, then take a pill... then send it. Its WU's
| | history file...period.
|
| The file is mysterious. It certainly seems to have online involvement,
| but, yea, looks like I can set IE to "work offline", & the file still
| did work-- this time! Fine-- I'll go look for a pill. In the meantime...
|
| (a) What will you do with mine?
| (b) Do you have stuff that analyses it?
| (c) Send me something to analyse mine, then,
| which is 93,255 bytes & tough to look at.
|
| | The only way it would or could be a mess is if YOU manually edited
| | it, its automatically created/added to by WU. And no, it doesn't need
| | an Internet connection to work,, its only connection to the NET
| | [supposedly] is to WU...
|
| I've looked inside, but hopefully never deleted or moved any of the
| lines. I have clicked the minus & plus signs-- is all, I think! It is
| sloppy because...
|
| (a) There are some failures. The failure reports remained inside,
| although a later attempt resulted in a complete for the same update.
|
| (b) The timestamps aren't all in order. Generally, looks like, the newer
| dates are on top-- but there are plenty out of sequence!
|
| (c) Some of the updates seem to be in the report TWICE-- & both were a
| complete. For instance...!...
|
| - <itemStatus xmlns="" timestamp="2006-06-14T19:32:42">
| - <identity
| itemID="win98se.windows98andwindows98secondedition.ver_platform_win32_wi
| ndows.4.10.x86.en......com_microsoft.windowsmedia9-windows98me-kb917734-
| x86-182459." name="WINDOWSMEDIA9-WINDOWS98ME-KB917734-X86-182459">
| <publisherName>com_microsoft</publisherName>
| <language>en</language>
| </identity>
| - <description hidden="0">
| - <descriptionText>
| <title>Security Update for Windows Media Player 9 for Windows 98 and
| Windows ME (KB917734)</title>
| <eula href="/msdownload/update/v3/static/eula/en/eula.htm" />
| <details href="http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=66393" />
| </descriptionText>
| </description>
| - <platform name="ver_platform_win32_windows">
| <processorArchitecture>x86</processorArchitecture>
| <version major="4" minor="10" build="" servicePackMajor=""
| servicePackMinor="" />
| </platform>
| <downloadStatus value="COMPLETE" />
|
| <downloadPath>h:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.WINDOWSMEDIA9-WINDOWS98ME-KB917734
| -X86-182459</downloadPath>
| <client>IU_Site</client>
| <installStatus value="COMPLETE" needsReboot="0" />
| </itemStatus>
|
| - <itemStatus xmlns="" timestamp="2006-06-14T18:39:32">
| - <identity
| itemID="win98se.windows98andwindows98secondedition.ver_platform_win32_wi
| ndows.4.10.x86.en......com_microsoft.windowsmedia9-windows98me-kb917734-
| x86-182459." name="WINDOWSMEDIA9-WINDOWS98ME-KB917734-X86-182459">
| <publisherName>com_microsoft</publisherName>
| <language>en</language>
| </identity>
| - <description hidden="0">
| - <descriptionText>
| <title>Security Update for Windows Media Player 9 for Windows 98 and
| Windows ME (KB917734)</title>
| <eula href="/msdownload/update/v3/static/eula/en/eula.htm" />
| <details href="http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=66393" />
| </descriptionText>
| </description>
| - <platform name="ver_platform_win32_windows">
| <processorArchitecture>x86</processorArchitecture>
| <version major="4" minor="10" build="" servicePackMajor=""
| servicePackMinor="" />
| </platform>
| <downloadStatus value="COMPLETE" />
|
| <downloadPath>h:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.WINDOWSMEDIA9-WINDOWS98ME-KB917734
| -X86-182459</downloadPath>
| <client>IU_Site</client>
|
| |
| | --
| | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| | --
| | _________
| |
| | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| | news:uHBPRK7wIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| || MEB wrote:
| || | Thanks PCR, thought you said you had an older installation for a
| || | check...
| ||
| || I have only one, fully updated installation of Win98SE.
| ||
| || | BTW if you could send me your old iuhist for comparison, it
| || | would be appreciated.
| ||
| || I have only one IUHist.xml. It requires an internet connection to
| || work. Are you sure mine would work on your machine? I'm not sure I
| || want to part with it! Is it safe to have someone else look inside
| || mine? It's a big mess, anyhow!
| ||
| || | I started new testing phases after the December
| || | 2005 issues., so all iuhist [that I remembered to save] after, have
| || | not got that in it. I'd like to compare my old ones with yours to
| || | see what else was removed. Perhaps you may have some other things
| || | missing which I may not have [due to several re-installations
| || | during the final support days or before] or overlooked..
| || |
| || | m_brahier at hotmail dot com
| || |
| || | --
| || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| || | --
| || | _________
| || |
| || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| || | news:enYFst5wIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| || || MEB wrote:
| || || | Okay, hopefully someone has an older installation that can
| || || | verify prior WU installation to confirm that aspect. Doesn't
| || || | PCR run an old installation?
| || ||
| || || JUST like for you, IUHist.xml shows 823353 came in for me from
| || || Windows Update. I got it one day before you.
| || ||
| || || It is not at the Catalog for Win98 in any of the categories
| || || (looking for 823353 or MS04-018), which finally has begun to work
| || || again after 3 days...
| || || http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp
| || ||
| || || And it wasn't among my downloads from the Catalog. So, either I
| || || didn't look quick enough for it or it never was there. HOWEVER...
| || ||
| || || http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=19527
| || || Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018
| || || Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express (823353)
| || ||
| || || ...from our IUHist.xml DOES serve to get to it. Thanks to you &
| || || Terhune (especially for testing it)-- I took it in, just in case I
| || || ever need to reinstall it. I took in...
| || ||
| || || . Microsoft Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1
| || || IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe
| || || Desc: Win32 Cabinet Self-Extractor
| || || Size: 1,996,544 bytes
| || || Ver: 6.00.2800.1168
| || ||
| || || I'm not sure whether the version refers to the update or the
| || || Extractor. I DO verify that the files you mentioned are indeed the
| || || versions I've got. Thanks again to you & Terhune.
| || ||
| || || | --
| || || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|
|
| ...snip
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net
|
|

 

[Angel]

I just finished installing the SpywareBlaster and running it. Do I still
need the Spybot?
Angel

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:uUjTM2CxIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: OK, well those are the best answers I have. <s>.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS-MVP Shell/User
: www.grystmill.com
:
: "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: news:ebySWqCxIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
: > Gary,
: > Just asking questions, wanted clarifications about it.
: > Angel
: >
: > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > news:%23pGIt0AxIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
: > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : news:%23lef40$wIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
: > : > Will SpywareBlaster prevent me from going to places that I know are
: > safe?
: > :
: > : Shouldn't. All it does is put nasty (and I mean NASTY, DANGEROUS)
sites
: > into
: > : the Restricted Zone and block certain ActiveX controls (also *known*
to
: > be
: > : nasty, not just *suspected* to be nasty or inconvenient.) It does not
: > use
: > a
: > : HOSTS file, which actually prevents access to sites, it just puts them
: > into
: > : a strait-jacket.
: > :
: > : > Does it prevent you from going to the places that the SpywareBlaster
: > think
: > : > that is unsafe to go? Can you choose the places you need to go?
: > :
: > : It doesn't prevent you from going anywhere. It just won't let nasty
: > stuff
: > : from any sites run on your system. If you want to see what that stuff
: > is,
: > : compare the Internet Zone and the Restricted Zone settings in Internet
: > : Options. And read about the ActiveX stuff that is listed when you
click
: > on
: > : Internet Explorer under Protection Status in the left column. I don't
: > mean
: > : about ActiveX in general, I mean look up the specifically named items
in
: > : that list.
: > :
: > : > There are some surveys that I do that need, I think, the ActiveX.
That
: > was
: > : > one of the reasons that I did not install it before this. Please
: > explain
: > : > the
: > : > pros and cons of SpywareBlaster.
: > :
: > : I don't understand what you mean in that first sentence, but as I
said,
: > the
: > : ActiveX stuff it protects against are NASTY! Period! If you go to a
site
: > and
: > : the functions you want to work don't work because if SpywareBlaster,
: > then
: > : you really should reconsider why you need to go to that site. Because
it
: > has
: > : intentionally malicious content. SpywareBlaster is not a dumb,
: > : block-everything that's mildly suspicious, application. The things
that
: > are
: > : blocked are, without any doubt, nasties.
: > :
: > : Those are the pros of SpywareBlaster. I know of no cons. If you have
any
: > : literature that claims SpywareBlaster has any cons, I'd be interested
in
: > : reading it.
: > :
: > : --
: > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : www.grystmill.com
: > :
: > : >
: > : > Angel
: > : >
: > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > news:eLgKTyzwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : > : Google is your friend. But here's the manufacturer's links:
: > : > : Info: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
: > : > : Download: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html
: > : > :
: > : > : --
: > : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : www.grystmill.com
: > : > :
: > : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > : news:eLU4ZrzwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > Gary,
: > : > : >
: > : > : > It is the one you sent on the CD, "Protection Applications".
When
: > I
: > : > did
: > : > : > the
: > : > : > Explorer for the folder, "Spyblaster", it says "Spyblaster
setup
: > : > 351.exe"
: > : > : > Under date 9/17/06. How do I get the 4.0 version?
: > : > : >
: > : > : > Angel
: > : > : >
: > : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > : > news:OV15eVrwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : Might want to make sure it's the latest version, 4.0, then
: > install
: > : > it.
: > : > : > It's
: > : > : > : pretty straight-forward. Requires a restart. Then run the app,
: > and
: > : > in
: > : > : > the
: > : > : > : Welcome dialog, click Next, choose Manual Updating, click
Next,
: > then
: > : > : > click
: > : > : > : Finish.
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : Now, click Updates on the left column, then the Check for
: > Updates
: > : > : > button.
: > : > : > : When the updating finishes, click on Protection Status at left
: > and
: > : > then
: > : > : > at
: > : > : > : the bottom, under Quick Tasks, Enable All Protection.
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : Do that every week or two.
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : --
: > : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : > : www.grystmill.com
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > : > : news:%2310SGjqwIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : > Yes Gary,
: > : > : > : > I found it, but I never installed it. I have to figure
out
: > the
: > : > : > : > instructions. I read the text but have to read it again.
: > : > : > : > Angel
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > : > : > news:eg%23zpGqwIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : > : No Gary, I do not have SypwareBlaster installed. I don't
: > even
: > : > think
: > : > : > I
: > : > : > : > have
: > : > : > : > : it.
: > : > : > : > :
: > : > : > : > : Angel
: > : > : > : > :
: > : > : > : > : "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > : > : > : news:Od9njRpwIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : > : : You're fine, except you left out one very important
app --
: > : > : > : > SypwareBlaster.
: > : > : > : > : : You DO have that installed, don't you? And you keep it
up
: > to
: > : > date?
: > : > : > : > : :
: > : > : > : > : : --
: > : > : > : > : : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : > : > : : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : > : > : : www.grystmill.com
: > : > : > : > : :
: > : > : > : > : : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > : > : > : : news:%23Fraq3owIHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : > : : > Yeah Gary, she sure could use the exercise. Send them
: > : > anytime.
: > : > : > We
: > : > : > : > are
: > : > : > : > : : > beginning to call her "Fat Cat" instead of "Streaker".
: > : > George
: > : > : > says
: > : > : > : > she
: > : > : > : > : is
: > : > : > : > : : > a
: > : > : > : > : : > Bowling Ball with legs! She was fat when I got her.
: > Right
: > : > now,
: > : > : > she
: > : > : > : > is
: > : > : > : > : : > sleeping on my old Contour chair. The chair does not
: > adjust
: > : > very
: > : > : > : > well
: > : > : > : > : : > anymore, most of the time it only has one position. It
: > needs
: > : > a
: > : > : > new
: > : > : > : > one.
: > : > : > : > : I
: > : > : > : > : : > bought it long before I retired 16 years ago.
: > : > : > : > : : >
: > : > : > : > : : > I uninstalled the AdAware last night. So far, no
: > problems
: > : > : > because
: > : > : > I
: > : > : > : > : : > uninstalled it. I still have Avast! and Spybot 1.4. I
: > have
: > : > not
: > : > : > : > updated
: > : > : > : > : the
: > : > : > : > : : > Spybot lately. I just don't know which updates to use.
: > : > : > : > : : >
: > : > : > : > : : > Angel
: > : > : > : > : : >
: > : > : > : > : : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > : > : > : : > news:%23sy$sobwIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : > : : > : I can send you a poodle or two to chase teh cat.
Keep
: > it
: > : > busy.
: > : > : > : > : : > :
: > : > : > : > : : > : --
: > : > : > : > : : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : > : > : : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : > : > : : > : www.grystmill.com
: > : > : > : > : : > :
: > : > : > : > : : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > : > : > : : > : news:uXJrWPZwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : > : : > : > Yes, I already knew that it will take a while for
: > the
: > : > pain
: > : > : > to
: > : > : > : > : subside.
: > : > : > : > : : > : > Even
: > : > : > : > : : > : > the pain pills don't work that well. Gary, I am
: > : > prepared
: > : > : > for
: > : > : > a
: > : > : > : > long
: > : > : > : > : : > hall,
: > : > : > : > : : > : > but you know I do not give up or in easily. You
are
: > not
: > : > : > : > pessimistic
: > : > : > : > : : > only
: > : > : > : > : : > : > truthful. This is no picnic, if you know what I
: > mean.
: > : > : > : > : : > : >
: > : > : > : > : : > : > My cat is on the footstool I am trying to use. She
: > takes
: > : > up
: > : > : > most
: > : > : > : > of
: > : > : > : > : : > the
: > : > : > : > : : > : > footstool. Since I got home, she does not let me
out
: > of
: > : > her
: > : > : > : > sight.
: > : > : > : > I
: > : > : > : > : : > : > finally
: > : > : > : > : : > : > got her to move off the stool. How? I picked her
up
: > and
: > : > put
: > : > : > her
: > : > : > : > off.
: > : > : > : > : : > She
: > : > : > : > : : > : > did
: > : > : > : > : : > : > not accept that. I had to do it again. She is
: > stubborn
: > : > and
: > : > : > don't
: > : > : > : > : give
: > : > : > : > : : > up
: > : > : > : > : : > : > easily neither.
: > : > : > : > : : > : >
: > : > : > : > : : > : > Angel
: > : > : > : > : : > : >
: > : > : > : > : : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > : > : > : : > : > news:eeK3b$RwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : Sounds like you need someone who can follow
: > : > instructions
: > : > : > and
: > : > : > : > has
: > : > : > : > a
: > : > : > : > : : > good
: > : > : > : > : : > : > back
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : to get in there and help you rearrange things to
: > your
: > : > : > comfort.
: > : > : > : > : After
: > : > : > : > : : > : > all,
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : these pains aren't going to go away real soon
: > (sorry
: > : > to
: > : > be
: > : > : > : > : : > pessimistic,
: > : > : > : > : : > : > but
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : I'd rather you got comfy ASAP.)
: > : > : > : > : : > : > :
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : As for standing on one's head while standing in
: > one's
: > : > : > head...
: > : > : > : > I
: > : > : > : > : used
: > : > : > : > : : > to
: > : > : > : > : : > : > do
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : that on a regular basis, <bg>.
: > : > : > : > : : > : > :
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : --
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : www.grystmill.com
: > : > : > : > : : > : > :
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : news:ucwOR8RwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > Gary, how would that be possible! "Standing in
: > my
: > : > head"?
: > : > : > I
: > : > : > : > never
: > : > : > : > : : > would
: > : > : > : > : : > : > try
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > that! I don't even think I could stand ON my
: > head
: > : > not
: > : > : > alone
: > : > : > : > IN
: > : > : > : > : my
: > : > : > : > : : > : > head!!
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > Have you tried it? HaHaHa!!
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > I do use a foot stool, when I can in front of
: > the
: > : > : > computer.
: > : > : > : > My
: > : > : > : > : cat
: > : > : > : > : : > and
: > : > : > : > : : > : > I
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > argue over it. She decided to take it over. I
: > also
: > : > use
: > : > : > the
: > : > : > : > arm
: > : > : > : > : of
: > : > : > : > : : > the
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > office
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > chair for my arm, it relieves the shoulder
pain
: > : > some.
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > Angel
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > news:e0vC6MRwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : Knowing Angel the way I do, I think she
should
: > try
: > : > : > : > standing
: > : > : > : > in
: > : > : > : > : : > her
: > : > : > : > : : > : > head,
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : <eg>.
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > :
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : --
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : www.grystmill.com
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > :
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in
: > message
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : news:483dd8cc$0$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > Angel, If you just put a ottoman or stool
: > with
: > : > : > pillow
: > : > : > or
: > : > : > : > : towel
: > : > : > : > : : > in
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > front
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > of
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > you at the
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > computer, it can work just as well as
above
: > the
: > : > : > heart.
: > : > : > : > Of
: > : > : > : > : : > course,
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > laying
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > down with
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > feet elevated is optimal but no one really
: > : > expects
: > : > : > you
: > : > : > : > to
: > : > : > : > do
: > : > : > : > : : > that.
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > Sorry
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > for your
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > problems. Ginny R.N.
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >
: > news:%23la3KVQwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Hi Gary,
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Doing pretty good. Don't stay on the
: > computer
: > : > very
: > : > : > long
: > : > : > : > at
: > : > : > : > : a
: > : > : > : > : : > : > time.
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > Still
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> trouble with the shoulder not
cooperating.
: > The
: > : > : > ankle
: > : > : > : > swells
: > : > : > : > : : > up
: > : > : > : > : : > : > quite
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > a
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> bit.
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Supposed to keep the leg elevated above
the
: > : > heart
: > : > : > to
: > : > : > : > keep
: > : > : > : > : the
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > swelling
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> down,
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> yeah right! Should I stand on my head?
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> When you go to yahoo! mail, you go to
: > Options
: > : > and
: > : > : > : > follow
: > : > : > : > : the
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > directions
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> under Preferences and you get it in text
: > and
: > : > when
: > : > : > you
: > : > : > : > get
: > : > : > : > : the
: > : > : > : > : : > : > mail,
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > you
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> can
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> go to the bottom of the page and hit HTML
: > or
: > at
: > : > the
: > : > : > top
: > : > : > : > of
: > : > : > : > : : > the
: > : > : > : > : : > : > email
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > and
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> hit
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> the show images. EASY!
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Angel
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
: > news:%23gbu8CHwIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : Hi, Angel! How ya doin'? I didn't know
: > that
: > : > about
: > : > : > : > Yahoo!
: > : > : > : > : : > Mail.
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : --
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : www.grystmill.com
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in
: > message
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
: > : > news:%23IMYJiEwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > Hi all,
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > You can also use that method in the
: > yahoo
: > : > web
: > : > : > mail.
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > Angel
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in
: > message
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
: > : > news:OThQZYDwIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : If you follow proper security
habits,
: > : > : > including
: > : > : > : > : setting
: > : > : > : > : : > : > email
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > apps
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> to
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > only
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : read messages in Plain Text, you
: > never
: > : > have
: > : > : > to
: > : > : > : > worry
: > : > : > : > : : > about
: > : > : > : > : : > : > any
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> viruses
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : getting in. Doesn't matter what
: > client
: > : > you
: > : > : > use.
: > : > : > : > If
: > : > : > : > : you
: > : > : > : > : : > get
: > : > : > : > : : > : > a
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > POS
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> HTML
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > email
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : that can't be read in PT, and you
: > trust
: > : > the
: > : > : > : > source,
: > : > : > : > : : > then
: > : > : > : > : : > : > you
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > can
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> change
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > to
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : view in HTML (in OE, anyway.)
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : --
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : www.grystmill.com
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in
: > message
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
: > : > : > : > news:2ooo34t082va22nc9rv0np3cr5sf9ckjhm@4ax.com...
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > I should have mentioned that
: > Outlook
: > : > : > Express
: > : > : > is
: > : > : > : > : very
: > : > : > : > : : > poor
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> software
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > that will allow viruses to infect
: > your
: > : > : > : > computer.
: > : > : > : > I
: > : > : > : > : : > wont
: > : > : > : > : : > : > even
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> allow
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > that POS on my computer. I
deleted
: > the
: > : > : > entire
: > : > : > : > : : > directory
: > : > : > : > : : > : > many
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> years
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > ago. I'd highly recommend
finding
: > : > another
: > : > : > : > email
: > : > : > : > : : > software
: > : > : > : > : : > : > as
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > well
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> as
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > another usenet software. (some do
: > both,
: > : > : > such
: > : > : > as
: > : > : > : > the
: > : > : > : > : : > newer
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> versions
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> of
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > Agent).
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : > :
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > : : > : > :
: > : > : > : > : : > : >
: > : > : > : > : : > : >
: > : > : > : > : : > :
: > : > : > : > : : >
: > : > : > : > : : >
: > : > : > : > : :
: > : > : > : > :
: > : > : > : > :
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > :
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > :
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: >
: >
:

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Yes. You want to update and run SpyBot during the same routine maintenance
as when you update SpywareBlaster. Or, if you think something may have
gotten in.

Check the version number of your Spybot. It should be 1.5.2 when you first
open it. Once fully updated, it should be 1.5.2.20 (today, anyway).
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html

When installing Spybot be very careful to NOT install Tea-Timer, SDHelper or
Immunization. During that last set of dialogs after installation is complete
and it's doing it's final configuration, just skip right through them.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
news:%23yvtPQOxIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I just finished installing the SpywareBlaster and running it. Do I still
> need the Spybot?
> Angel
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:uUjTM2CxIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> : OK, well those are the best answers I have. <s>.
> :
> : --
> : Gary S. Terhune
> : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : www.grystmill.com
> :
> : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : news:ebySWqCxIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> : > Gary,
> : > Just asking questions, wanted clarifications about it.
> : > Angel
> : >
> : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > news:%23pGIt0AxIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : news:%23lef40$wIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> : > : > Will SpywareBlaster prevent me from going to places that I know
> are
> : > safe?
> : > :
> : > : Shouldn't. All it does is put nasty (and I mean NASTY, DANGEROUS)
> sites
> : > into
> : > : the Restricted Zone and block certain ActiveX controls (also *known*
> to
> : > be
> : > : nasty, not just *suspected* to be nasty or inconvenient.) It does
> not
> : > use
> : > a
> : > : HOSTS file, which actually prevents access to sites, it just puts
> them
> : > into
> : > : a strait-jacket.
> : > :
> : > : > Does it prevent you from going to the places that the
> SpywareBlaster
> : > think
> : > : > that is unsafe to go? Can you choose the places you need to go?
> : > :
> : > : It doesn't prevent you from going anywhere. It just won't let nasty
> : > stuff
> : > : from any sites run on your system. If you want to see what that
> stuff
> : > is,
> : > : compare the Internet Zone and the Restricted Zone settings in
> Internet
> : > : Options. And read about the ActiveX stuff that is listed when you
> click
> : > on
> : > : Internet Explorer under Protection Status in the left column. I
> don't
> : > mean
> : > : about ActiveX in general, I mean look up the specifically named
> items
> in
> : > : that list.
> : > :
> : > : > There are some surveys that I do that need, I think, the ActiveX.
> That
> : > was
> : > : > one of the reasons that I did not install it before this. Please
> : > explain
> : > : > the
> : > : > pros and cons of SpywareBlaster.
> : > :
> : > : I don't understand what you mean in that first sentence, but as I
> said,
> : > the
> : > : ActiveX stuff it protects against are NASTY! Period! If you go to a
> site
> : > and
> : > : the functions you want to work don't work because if SpywareBlaster,
> : > then
> : > : you really should reconsider why you need to go to that site.
> Because
> it
> : > has
> : > : intentionally malicious content. SpywareBlaster is not a dumb,
> : > : block-everything that's mildly suspicious, application. The things
> that
> : > are
> : > : blocked are, without any doubt, nasties.
> : > :
> : > : Those are the pros of SpywareBlaster. I know of no cons. If you have
> any
> : > : literature that claims SpywareBlaster has any cons, I'd be
> interested
> in
> : > : reading it.
> : > :
> : > : --
> : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > :
> : > : >
> : > : > Angel
> : > : >
> : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : > news:eLgKTyzwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : Google is your friend. But here's the manufacturer's links:
> : > : > : Info: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
> : > : > : Download: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html
> : > : > :
> : > : > : --
> : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > :
> : > : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : news:eLU4ZrzwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > Gary,
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > It is the one you sent on the CD, "Protection Applications".
> When
> : > I
> : > : > did
> : > : > : > the
> : > : > : > Explorer for the folder, "Spyblaster", it says "Spyblaster
> setup
> : > : > 351.exe"
> : > : > : > Under date 9/17/06. How do I get the 4.0 version?
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > Angel
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : > : > news:OV15eVrwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : Might want to make sure it's the latest version, 4.0, then
> : > install
> : > : > it.
> : > : > : > It's
> : > : > : > : pretty straight-forward. Requires a restart. Then run the
> app,
> : > and
> : > : > in
> : > : > : > the
> : > : > : > : Welcome dialog, click Next, choose Manual Updating, click
> Next,
> : > then
> : > : > : > click
> : > : > : > : Finish.
> : > : > : > :
> : > : > : > : Now, click Updates on the left column, then the Check for
> : > Updates
> : > : > : > button.
> : > : > : > : When the updating finishes, click on Protection Status at
> left
> : > and
> : > : > then
> : > : > : > at
> : > : > : > : the bottom, under Quick Tasks, Enable All Protection.
> : > : > : > :
> : > : > : > : Do that every week or two.
> : > : > : > :
> : > : > : > : --
> : > : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > : > :
> : > : > : > :
> : > : > : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : > : news:%2310SGjqwIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : > Yes Gary,
> : > : > : > : > I found it, but I never installed it. I have to figure
> out
> : > the
> : > : > : > : > instructions. I read the text but have to read it again.
> : > : > : > : > Angel
> : > : > : > : >
> : > : > : > : > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : > : > news:eg%23zpGqwIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : > : No Gary, I do not have SypwareBlaster installed. I don't
> : > even
> : > : > think
> : > : > : > I
> : > : > : > : > have
> : > : > : > : > : it.
> : > : > : > : > :
> : > : > : > : > : Angel
> : > : > : > : > :
> : > : > : > : > : "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : > : > : > : news:Od9njRpwIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : > : : You're fine, except you left out one very important
> app --
> : > : > : > : > SypwareBlaster.
> : > : > : > : > : : You DO have that installed, don't you? And you keep it
> up
> : > to
> : > : > date?
> : > : > : > : > : :
> : > : > : > : > : : --
> : > : > : > : > : : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : > : > : : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : > : > : : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > : > : > : :
> : > : > : > : > : : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : > : > : : news:%23Fraq3owIHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : > : : > Yeah Gary, she sure could use the exercise. Send
> them
> : > : > anytime.
> : > : > : > We
> : > : > : > : > are
> : > : > : > : > : : > beginning to call her "Fat Cat" instead of
> "Streaker".
> : > : > George
> : > : > : > says
> : > : > : > : > she
> : > : > : > : > : is
> : > : > : > : > : : > a
> : > : > : > : > : : > Bowling Ball with legs! She was fat when I got her.
> : > Right
> : > : > now,
> : > : > : > she
> : > : > : > : > is
> : > : > : > : > : : > sleeping on my old Contour chair. The chair does not
> : > adjust
> : > : > very
> : > : > : > : > well
> : > : > : > : > : : > anymore, most of the time it only has one position.
> It
> : > needs
> : > : > a
> : > : > : > new
> : > : > : > : > one.
> : > : > : > : > : I
> : > : > : > : > : : > bought it long before I retired 16 years ago.
> : > : > : > : > : : >
> : > : > : > : > : : > I uninstalled the AdAware last night. So far, no
> : > problems
> : > : > : > because
> : > : > : > I
> : > : > : > : > : : > uninstalled it. I still have Avast! and Spybot 1.4.
> I
> : > have
> : > : > not
> : > : > : > : > updated
> : > : > : > : > : the
> : > : > : > : > : : > Spybot lately. I just don't know which updates to
> use.
> : > : > : > : > : : >
> : > : > : > : > : : > Angel
> : > : > : > : > : : >
> : > : > : > : > : : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : > : > : > : : > news:%23sy$sobwIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : > : : > : I can send you a poodle or two to chase teh cat.
> Keep
> : > it
> : > : > busy.
> : > : > : > : > : : > :
> : > : > : > : > : : > : --
> : > : > : > : > : : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : > : > : : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : > : > : : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > : > : > : : > :
> : > : > : > : > : : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : > : > : : > : news:uXJrWPZwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > Yes, I already knew that it will take a while
> for
> : > the
> : > : > pain
> : > : > : > to
> : > : > : > : > : subside.
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > Even
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > the pain pills don't work that well. Gary, I am
> : > : > prepared
> : > : > : > for
> : > : > : > a
> : > : > : > : > long
> : > : > : > : > : : > hall,
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > but you know I do not give up or in easily. You
> are
> : > not
> : > : > : > : > pessimistic
> : > : > : > : > : : > only
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > truthful. This is no picnic, if you know what I
> : > mean.
> : > : > : > : > : : > : >
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > My cat is on the footstool I am trying to use.
> She
> : > takes
> : > : > up
> : > : > : > most
> : > : > : > : > of
> : > : > : > : > : : > the
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > footstool. Since I got home, she does not let me
> out
> : > of
> : > : > her
> : > : > : > : > sight.
> : > : > : > : > I
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > finally
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > got her to move off the stool. How? I picked her
> up
> : > and
> : > : > put
> : > : > : > her
> : > : > : > : > off.
> : > : > : > : > : : > She
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > did
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > not accept that. I had to do it again. She is
> : > stubborn
> : > : > and
> : > : > : > don't
> : > : > : > : > : give
> : > : > : > : > : : > up
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > easily neither.
> : > : > : > : > : : > : >
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > Angel
> : > : > : > : > : : > : >
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > news:eeK3b$RwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : Sounds like you need someone who can follow
> : > : > instructions
> : > : > : > and
> : > : > : > : > has
> : > : > : > : > a
> : > : > : > : > : : > good
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > back
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : to get in there and help you rearrange things
> to
> : > your
> : > : > : > comfort.
> : > : > : > : > : After
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > all,
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : these pains aren't going to go away real soon
> : > (sorry
> : > : > to
> : > : > be
> : > : > : > : > : : > pessimistic,
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > but
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : I'd rather you got comfy ASAP.)
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > :
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : As for standing on one's head while standing
> in
> : > one's
> : > : > : > head...
> : > : > : > : > I
> : > : > : > : > : used
> : > : > : > : > : : > to
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > do
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : that on a regular basis, <bg>.
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > :
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : --
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > :
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : news:ucwOR8RwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > Gary, how would that be possible! "Standing
> in
> : > my
> : > : > head"?
> : > : > : > I
> : > : > : > : > never
> : > : > : > : > : : > would
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > try
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > that! I don't even think I could stand ON my
> : > head
> : > : > not
> : > : > : > alone
> : > : > : > : > IN
> : > : > : > : > : my
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > head!!
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > Have you tried it? HaHaHa!!
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : >
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > I do use a foot stool, when I can in front
> of
> : > the
> : > : > : > computer.
> : > : > : > : > My
> : > : > : > : > : cat
> : > : > : > : > : : > and
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > I
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > argue over it. She decided to take it over.
> I
> : > also
> : > : > use
> : > : > : > the
> : > : > : > : > arm
> : > : > : > : > : of
> : > : > : > : > : : > the
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > office
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > chair for my arm, it relieves the shoulder
> pain
> : > : > some.
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : >
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > Angel
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : >
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > news:e0vC6MRwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : Knowing Angel the way I do, I think she
> should
> : > try
> : > : > : > : > standing
> : > : > : > : > in
> : > : > : > : > : : > her
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > head,
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : <eg>.
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > :
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : --
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > :
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in
> : > message
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : news:483dd8cc$0$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > Angel, If you just put a ottoman or
> stool
> : > with
> : > : > : > pillow
> : > : > : > or
> : > : > : > : > : towel
> : > : > : > : > : : > in
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > front
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > of
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > you at the
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > computer, it can work just as well as
> above
> : > the
> : > : > : > heart.
> : > : > : > : > Of
> : > : > : > : > : : > course,
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > laying
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > down with
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > feet elevated is optimal but no one
> really
> : > : > expects
> : > : > : > you
> : > : > : > : > to
> : > : > : > : > do
> : > : > : > : > : : > that.
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > Sorry
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > for your
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > problems. Ginny R.N.
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in
> message
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >
> : > news:%23la3KVQwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Hi Gary,
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Doing pretty good. Don't stay on the
> : > computer
> : > : > very
> : > : > : > long
> : > : > : > : > at
> : > : > : > : > : a
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > time.
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > Still
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> trouble with the shoulder not
> cooperating.
> : > The
> : > : > : > ankle
> : > : > : > : > swells
> : > : > : > : > : : > up
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > quite
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > a
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> bit.
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Supposed to keep the leg elevated above
> the
> : > : > heart
> : > : > : > to
> : > : > : > : > keep
> : > : > : > : > : the
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > swelling
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> down,
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> yeah right! Should I stand on my head?
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> When you go to yahoo! mail, you go to
> : > Options
> : > : > and
> : > : > : > : > follow
> : > : > : > : > : the
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > directions
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> under Preferences and you get it in
> text
> : > and
> : > : > when
> : > : > : > you
> : > : > : > : > get
> : > : > : > : > : the
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > mail,
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > you
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> can
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> go to the bottom of the page and hit
> HTML
> : > or
> : > at
> : > : > the
> : > : > : > top
> : > : > : > : > of
> : > : > : > : > : : > the
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > email
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > and
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> hit
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> the show images. EASY!
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Angel
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in
> message
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > news:%23gbu8CHwIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : Hi, Angel! How ya doin'? I didn't
> know
> : > that
> : > : > about
> : > : > : > : > Yahoo!
> : > : > : > : > : : > Mail.
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : --
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in
> : > message
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
> : > : > news:%23IMYJiEwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > Hi all,
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > You can also use that method in the
> : > yahoo
> : > : > web
> : > : > : > mail.
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > Angel
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in
> : > message
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
> : > : > news:OThQZYDwIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : If you follow proper security
> habits,
> : > : > : > including
> : > : > : > : > : setting
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > email
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > apps
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> to
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > only
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : read messages in Plain Text, you
> : > never
> : > : > have
> : > : > : > to
> : > : > : > : > worry
> : > : > : > : > : : > about
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > any
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> viruses
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : getting in. Doesn't matter what
> : > client
> : > : > you
> : > : > : > use.
> : > : > : > : > If
> : > : > : > : > : you
> : > : > : > : > : : > get
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > a
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > POS
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> HTML
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > email
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : that can't be read in PT, and you
> : > trust
> : > : > the
> : > : > : > : > source,
> : > : > : > : > : : > then
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > you
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > can
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> change
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > to
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : view in HTML (in OE, anyway.)
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : --
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in
> : > message
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
> : > : > : > : > news:2ooo34t082va22nc9rv0np3cr5sf9ckjhm@4ax.com...
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > I should have mentioned that
> : > Outlook
> : > : > : > Express
> : > : > : > is
> : > : > : > : > : very
> : > : > : > : > : : > poor
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> software
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > that will allow viruses to
> infect
> : > your
> : > : > : > : > computer.
> : > : > : > : > I
> : > : > : > : > : : > wont
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > even
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> allow
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > that POS on my computer. I
> deleted
> : > the
> : > : > : > entire
> : > : > : > : > : : > directory
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > many
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> years
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > ago. I'd highly recommend
> finding
> : > : > another
> : > : > : > : > email
> : > : > : > : > : : > software
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > as
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > well
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> as
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > another usenet software. (some
> do
> : > both,
> : > : > : > such
> : > : > : > as
> : > : > : > : > the
> : > : > : > : > : : > newer
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> versions
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> of
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > Agent).
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > :
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : >
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : >
> : > : > : > : > : : > : > :
> : > : > : > : > : : > : >
> : > : > : > : > : : > : >
> : > : > : > : > : : > :
> : > : > : > : > : : >
> : > : > : > : > : : >
> : > : > : > : > : :
> : > : > : > : > :
> : > : > : > : > :
> : > : > : > : >
> : > : > : > : >
> : > : > : > :
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : >
> : > : > :
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
>
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Note: The "fully updated" version listed below is as seen in Help>About. The
initial splash page will still say only 1.5.2

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%23BMlmWPxIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Yes. You want to update and run SpyBot during the same routine maintenance
> as when you update SpywareBlaster. Or, if you think something may have
> gotten in.
>
> Check the version number of your Spybot. It should be 1.5.2 when you first
> open it. Once fully updated, it should be 1.5.2.20 (today, anyway).
> http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html
>
> When installing Spybot be very careful to NOT install Tea-Timer, SDHelper
> or Immunization. During that last set of dialogs after installation is
> complete and it's doing it's final configuration, just skip right through
> them.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
>
> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> news:%23yvtPQOxIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>I just finished installing the SpywareBlaster and running it. Do I still
>> need the Spybot?
>> Angel
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:uUjTM2CxIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> : OK, well those are the best answers I have. <s>.
>> :
>> : --
>> : Gary S. Terhune
>> : MS-MVP Shell/User
>> : www.grystmill.com
>> :
>> : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
>> : news:ebySWqCxIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> : > Gary,
>> : > Just asking questions, wanted clarifications about it.
>> : > Angel
>> : >
>> : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> : > news:%23pGIt0AxIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
>> : > : news:%23lef40$wIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> : > : > Will SpywareBlaster prevent me from going to places that I know
>> are
>> : > safe?
>> : > :
>> : > : Shouldn't. All it does is put nasty (and I mean NASTY, DANGEROUS)
>> sites
>> : > into
>> : > : the Restricted Zone and block certain ActiveX controls (also
>> *known*
>> to
>> : > be
>> : > : nasty, not just *suspected* to be nasty or inconvenient.) It does
>> not
>> : > use
>> : > a
>> : > : HOSTS file, which actually prevents access to sites, it just puts
>> them
>> : > into
>> : > : a strait-jacket.
>> : > :
>> : > : > Does it prevent you from going to the places that the
>> SpywareBlaster
>> : > think
>> : > : > that is unsafe to go? Can you choose the places you need to go?
>> : > :
>> : > : It doesn't prevent you from going anywhere. It just won't let nasty
>> : > stuff
>> : > : from any sites run on your system. If you want to see what that
>> stuff
>> : > is,
>> : > : compare the Internet Zone and the Restricted Zone settings in
>> Internet
>> : > : Options. And read about the ActiveX stuff that is listed when you
>> click
>> : > on
>> : > : Internet Explorer under Protection Status in the left column. I
>> don't
>> : > mean
>> : > : about ActiveX in general, I mean look up the specifically named
>> items
>> in
>> : > : that list.
>> : > :
>> : > : > There are some surveys that I do that need, I think, the ActiveX.
>> That
>> : > was
>> : > : > one of the reasons that I did not install it before this. Please
>> : > explain
>> : > : > the
>> : > : > pros and cons of SpywareBlaster.
>> : > :
>> : > : I don't understand what you mean in that first sentence, but as I
>> said,
>> : > the
>> : > : ActiveX stuff it protects against are NASTY! Period! If you go to a
>> site
>> : > and
>> : > : the functions you want to work don't work because if
>> SpywareBlaster,
>> : > then
>> : > : you really should reconsider why you need to go to that site.
>> Because
>> it
>> : > has
>> : > : intentionally malicious content. SpywareBlaster is not a dumb,
>> : > : block-everything that's mildly suspicious, application. The things
>> that
>> : > are
>> : > : blocked are, without any doubt, nasties.
>> : > :
>> : > : Those are the pros of SpywareBlaster. I know of no cons. If you
>> have
>> any
>> : > : literature that claims SpywareBlaster has any cons, I'd be
>> interested
>> in
>> : > : reading it.
>> : > :
>> : > : --
>> : > : Gary S. Terhune
>> : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
>> : > : www.grystmill.com
>> : > :
>> : > : >
>> : > : > Angel
>> : > : >
>> : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> : > : > news:eLgKTyzwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> : > : > : Google is your friend. But here's the manufacturer's links:
>> : > : > : Info: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
>> : > : > : Download: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html
>> : > : > :
>> : > : > : --
>> : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
>> : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
>> : > : > : www.grystmill.com
>> : > : > :
>> : > : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
>> : > : > : news:eLU4ZrzwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> : > : > : > Gary,
>> : > : > : >
>> : > : > : > It is the one you sent on the CD, "Protection Applications".
>> When
>> : > I
>> : > : > did
>> : > : > : > the
>> : > : > : > Explorer for the folder, "Spyblaster", it says "Spyblaster
>> setup
>> : > : > 351.exe"
>> : > : > : > Under date 9/17/06. How do I get the 4.0 version?
>> : > : > : >
>> : > : > : > Angel
>> : > : > : >
>> : > : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> : > : > : > news:OV15eVrwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> : > : > : > : Might want to make sure it's the latest version, 4.0, then
>> : > install
>> : > : > it.
>> : > : > : > It's
>> : > : > : > : pretty straight-forward. Requires a restart. Then run the
>> app,
>> : > and
>> : > : > in
>> : > : > : > the
>> : > : > : > : Welcome dialog, click Next, choose Manual Updating, click
>> Next,
>> : > then
>> : > : > : > click
>> : > : > : > : Finish.
>> : > : > : > :
>> : > : > : > : Now, click Updates on the left column, then the Check for
>> : > Updates
>> : > : > : > button.
>> : > : > : > : When the updating finishes, click on Protection Status at
>> left
>> : > and
>> : > : > then
>> : > : > : > at
>> : > : > : > : the bottom, under Quick Tasks, Enable All Protection.
>> : > : > : > :
>> : > : > : > : Do that every week or two.
>> : > : > : > :
>> : > : > : > : --
>> : > : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
>> : > : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
>> : > : > : > : www.grystmill.com
>> : > : > : > :
>> : > : > : > :
>> : > : > : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
>> : > : > : > : news:%2310SGjqwIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> : > : > : > : > Yes Gary,
>> : > : > : > : > I found it, but I never installed it. I have to figure
>> out
>> : > the
>> : > : > : > : > instructions. I read the text but have to read it again.
>> : > : > : > : > Angel
>> : > : > : > : >
>> : > : > : > : > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
>> : > : > : > : > news:eg%23zpGqwIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> : > : > : > : > : No Gary, I do not have SypwareBlaster installed. I
>> don't
>> : > even
>> : > : > think
>> : > : > : > I
>> : > : > : > : > have
>> : > : > : > : > : it.
>> : > : > : > : > :
>> : > : > : > : > : Angel
>> : > : > : > : > :
>> : > : > : > : > : "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> : > : > : > : > : news:Od9njRpwIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> : > : > : > : > : : You're fine, except you left out one very important
>> app --
>> : > : > : > : > SypwareBlaster.
>> : > : > : > : > : : You DO have that installed, don't you? And you keep
>> it
>> up
>> : > to
>> : > : > date?
>> : > : > : > : > : :
>> : > : > : > : > : : --
>> : > : > : > : > : : Gary S. Terhune
>> : > : > : > : > : : MS-MVP Shell/User
>> : > : > : > : > : : www.grystmill.com
>> : > : > : > : > : :
>> : > : > : > : > : : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
>> : > : > : > : > : : news:%23Fraq3owIHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> : > : > : > : > : : > Yeah Gary, she sure could use the exercise. Send
>> them
>> : > : > anytime.
>> : > : > : > We
>> : > : > : > : > are
>> : > : > : > : > : : > beginning to call her "Fat Cat" instead of
>> "Streaker".
>> : > : > George
>> : > : > : > says
>> : > : > : > : > she
>> : > : > : > : > : is
>> : > : > : > : > : : > a
>> : > : > : > : > : : > Bowling Ball with legs! She was fat when I got her.
>> : > Right
>> : > : > now,
>> : > : > : > she
>> : > : > : > : > is
>> : > : > : > : > : : > sleeping on my old Contour chair. The chair does
>> not
>> : > adjust
>> : > : > very
>> : > : > : > : > well
>> : > : > : > : > : : > anymore, most of the time it only has one position.
>> It
>> : > needs
>> : > : > a
>> : > : > : > new
>> : > : > : > : > one.
>> : > : > : > : > : I
>> : > : > : > : > : : > bought it long before I retired 16 years ago.
>> : > : > : > : > : : >
>> : > : > : > : > : : > I uninstalled the AdAware last night. So far, no
>> : > problems
>> : > : > : > because
>> : > : > : > I
>> : > : > : > : > : : > uninstalled it. I still have Avast! and Spybot 1.4.
>> I
>> : > have
>> : > : > not
>> : > : > : > : > updated
>> : > : > : > : > : the
>> : > : > : > : > : : > Spybot lately. I just don't know which updates to
>> use.
>> : > : > : > : > : : >
>> : > : > : > : > : : > Angel
>> : > : > : > : > : : >
>> : > : > : > : > : : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> : > : > : > : > : : > news:%23sy$sobwIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : I can send you a poodle or two to chase teh cat.
>> Keep
>> : > it
>> : > : > busy.
>> : > : > : > : > : : > :
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : --
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : Gary S. Terhune
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : www.grystmill.com
>> : > : > : > : > : : > :
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : news:uXJrWPZwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > Yes, I already knew that it will take a while
>> for
>> : > the
>> : > : > pain
>> : > : > : > to
>> : > : > : > : > : subside.
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > Even
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > the pain pills don't work that well. Gary, I
>> am
>> : > : > prepared
>> : > : > : > for
>> : > : > : > a
>> : > : > : > : > long
>> : > : > : > : > : : > hall,
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > but you know I do not give up or in easily. You
>> are
>> : > not
>> : > : > : > : > pessimistic
>> : > : > : > : > : : > only
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > truthful. This is no picnic, if you know what I
>> : > mean.
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : >
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > My cat is on the footstool I am trying to use.
>> She
>> : > takes
>> : > : > up
>> : > : > : > most
>> : > : > : > : > of
>> : > : > : > : > : : > the
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > footstool. Since I got home, she does not let
>> me
>> out
>> : > of
>> : > : > her
>> : > : > : > : > sight.
>> : > : > : > : > I
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > finally
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > got her to move off the stool. How? I picked
>> her
>> up
>> : > and
>> : > : > put
>> : > : > : > her
>> : > : > : > : > off.
>> : > : > : > : > : : > She
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > did
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > not accept that. I had to do it again. She is
>> : > stubborn
>> : > : > and
>> : > : > : > don't
>> : > : > : > : > : give
>> : > : > : > : > : : > up
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > easily neither.
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : >
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > Angel
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : >
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > news:eeK3b$RwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : Sounds like you need someone who can follow
>> : > : > instructions
>> : > : > : > and
>> : > : > : > : > has
>> : > : > : > : > a
>> : > : > : > : > : : > good
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > back
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : to get in there and help you rearrange things
>> to
>> : > your
>> : > : > : > comfort.
>> : > : > : > : > : After
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > all,
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : these pains aren't going to go away real soon
>> : > (sorry
>> : > : > to
>> : > : > be
>> : > : > : > : > : : > pessimistic,
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > but
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : I'd rather you got comfy ASAP.)
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > :
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : As for standing on one's head while standing
>> in
>> : > one's
>> : > : > : > head...
>> : > : > : > : > I
>> : > : > : > : > : used
>> : > : > : > : > : : > to
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > do
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : that on a regular basis, <bg>.
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > :
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : --
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : www.grystmill.com
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > :
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : news:ucwOR8RwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > Gary, how would that be possible! "Standing
>> in
>> : > my
>> : > : > head"?
>> : > : > : > I
>> : > : > : > : > never
>> : > : > : > : > : : > would
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > try
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > that! I don't even think I could stand ON
>> my
>> : > head
>> : > : > not
>> : > : > : > alone
>> : > : > : > : > IN
>> : > : > : > : > : my
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > head!!
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > Have you tried it? HaHaHa!!
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : >
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > I do use a foot stool, when I can in front
>> of
>> : > the
>> : > : > : > computer.
>> : > : > : > : > My
>> : > : > : > : > : cat
>> : > : > : > : > : : > and
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > I
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > argue over it. She decided to take it over.
>> I
>> : > also
>> : > : > use
>> : > : > : > the
>> : > : > : > : > arm
>> : > : > : > : > : of
>> : > : > : > : > : : > the
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > office
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > chair for my arm, it relieves the shoulder
>> pain
>> : > : > some.
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : >
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > Angel
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : >
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : >
>> news:e0vC6MRwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : Knowing Angel the way I do, I think she
>> should
>> : > try
>> : > : > : > : > standing
>> : > : > : > : > in
>> : > : > : > : > : : > her
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > head,
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : <eg>.
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > :
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : --
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : Gary S. Terhune
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : www.grystmill.com
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > :
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in
>> : > message
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : news:483dd8cc$0$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > Angel, If you just put a ottoman or
>> stool
>> : > with
>> : > : > : > pillow
>> : > : > : > or
>> : > : > : > : > : towel
>> : > : > : > : > : : > in
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > front
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > of
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > you at the
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > computer, it can work just as well as
>> above
>> : > the
>> : > : > : > heart.
>> : > : > : > : > Of
>> : > : > : > : > : : > course,
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > laying
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > down with
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > feet elevated is optimal but no one
>> really
>> : > : > expects
>> : > : > : > you
>> : > : > : > : > to
>> : > : > : > : > do
>> : > : > : > : > : : > that.
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > Sorry
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > for your
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > problems. Ginny R.N.
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in
>> message
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >
>> : > news:%23la3KVQwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Hi Gary,
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Doing pretty good. Don't stay on the
>> : > computer
>> : > : > very
>> : > : > : > long
>> : > : > : > : > at
>> : > : > : > : > : a
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > time.
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > Still
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> trouble with the shoulder not
>> cooperating.
>> : > The
>> : > : > : > ankle
>> : > : > : > : > swells
>> : > : > : > : > : : > up
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > quite
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > a
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> bit.
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Supposed to keep the leg elevated
>> above
>> the
>> : > : > heart
>> : > : > : > to
>> : > : > : > : > keep
>> : > : > : > : > : the
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > swelling
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> down,
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> yeah right! Should I stand on my head?
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> When you go to yahoo! mail, you go to
>> : > Options
>> : > : > and
>> : > : > : > : > follow
>> : > : > : > : > : the
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > directions
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> under Preferences and you get it in
>> text
>> : > and
>> : > : > when
>> : > : > : > you
>> : > : > : > : > get
>> : > : > : > : > : the
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > mail,
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > you
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> can
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> go to the bottom of the page and hit
>> HTML
>> : > or
>> : > at
>> : > : > the
>> : > : > : > top
>> : > : > : > : > of
>> : > : > : > : > : : > the
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > email
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > and
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> hit
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> the show images. EASY!
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> Angel
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in
>> message
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
>> : > news:%23gbu8CHwIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : Hi, Angel! How ya doin'? I didn't
>> know
>> : > that
>> : > : > about
>> : > : > : > : > Yahoo!
>> : > : > : > : > : : > Mail.
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : --
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : Gary S. Terhune
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : MS-MVP Shell/User
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : www.grystmill.com
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in
>> : > message
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
>> : > : > news:%23IMYJiEwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > Hi all,
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > You can also use that method in
>> the
>> : > yahoo
>> : > : > web
>> : > : > : > mail.
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > Angel
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in
>> : > message
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
>> : > : > news:OThQZYDwIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : If you follow proper security
>> habits,
>> : > : > : > including
>> : > : > : > : > : setting
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > email
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > apps
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> to
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > only
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : read messages in Plain Text, you
>> : > never
>> : > : > have
>> : > : > : > to
>> : > : > : > : > worry
>> : > : > : > : > : : > about
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > any
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> viruses
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : getting in. Doesn't matter what
>> : > client
>> : > : > you
>> : > : > : > use.
>> : > : > : > : > If
>> : > : > : > : > : you
>> : > : > : > : > : : > get
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > a
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > POS
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> HTML
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > email
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : that can't be read in PT, and
>> you
>> : > trust
>> : > : > the
>> : > : > : > : > source,
>> : > : > : > : > : : > then
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > you
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > can
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> change
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > to
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : view in HTML (in OE, anyway.)
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : --
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : Gary S. Terhune
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : www.grystmill.com
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in
>> : > message
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
>> : > : > : > : > news:2ooo34t082va22nc9rv0np3cr5sf9ckjhm@4ax.com...
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > I should have mentioned that
>> : > Outlook
>> : > : > : > Express
>> : > : > : > is
>> : > : > : > : > : very
>> : > : > : > : > : : > poor
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> software
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > that will allow viruses to
>> infect
>> : > your
>> : > : > : > : > computer.
>> : > : > : > : > I
>> : > : > : > : > : : > wont
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > even
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> allow
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > that POS on my computer. I
>> deleted
>> : > the
>> : > : > : > entire
>> : > : > : > : > : : > directory
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > many
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> years
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > ago. I'd highly recommend
>> finding
>> : > : > another
>> : > : > : > : > email
>> : > : > : > : > : : > software
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > as
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > well
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> as
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > another usenet software. (some
>> do
>> : > both,
>> : > : > : > such
>> : > : > : > as
>> : > : > : > : > the
>> : > : > : > : > : : > newer
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> versions
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> of
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > : > Agent).
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : > :
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> : >
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >> :
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >>
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > : >
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : > :
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : >
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > : >
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : > :
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : >
>> : > : > : > : > : : > : >
>> : > : > : > : > : : > :
>> : > : > : > : > : : >
>> : > : > : > : > : : >
>> : > : > : > : > : :
>> : > : > : > : > :
>> : > : > : > : > :
>> : > : > : > : >
>> : > : > : > : >
>> : > : > : > :
>> : > : > : >
>> : > : > : >
>> : > : > :
>> : > : >
>> : > : >
>> : > :
>> : >
>> : >
>> :
>>
>>
>

 

[PCR]

MEB wrote:
| Hehehe, I can't send you my eyes or my mind... tell you what you,
| send me your file, I'll send you one of the old ones 86k.. biggest I
| have and likely the best for cross-reference.
| Where do you want it sent? That should tell you how much you need to
| be concerned with the friggin file...

Fine, I'm sending mine now to the address you posted-- WinZip got it
down to 4.76 KB from 92 KB! If you look at it -- you agree to post a
thorough analysis right here within 6 years -- on penalty of your
machine must crumble to dust if you don't!

Mine is tough enough to look at-- I don't need yours! They might be
different depending on configuration & what optionals we took.

| As for what to check/parse it with,, I do them by hand though SURELY
| someone felt the same as you and didn't want to spend that kind of
| time and wrote something, just never bothered to check. Perhaps a
| standard xml creator would work to break it into the proper sectional
| order...

I don't have anything like that. I guess I'll have to do it by hand. You
are getting the original, unaltered version. Can I really move things
around in there, even delete the failures & duplicates-- & not upset
Windows Update? What is wrong with editing it in Explorer, instead of
UEdit?

| maybe credible XML,, again just never bothered to run it on
| it and don't have it installed this time.... heck probably one of my
| web tools would work, never felt compelled or lazy enough to check..
| Besides, its a good way to remember [repeat use] xml formatting...
| Have you ever done any RSS, RDF, site XML [like for Google], or any
| other style of XML editing? Its a pretty common format now, used to
| store data, references, information, location, lots of other
| stuff.... Look at something you already have like AVAST's... I just
| use UEdit, heck I could probably make a macro and run it,, just never
| got around to it
|
| --
| MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| --
| _________
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:uaDmE8DxIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|| MEB wrote:
|| | HAHA, you really don't mean that right,, all your iuhist.xml shows
|| | is what WU installed and when,,, of course if your worried that
|| | somehow makes you vulnerable,,, then take a pill... then send it.
|| | Its WU's history file...period.
||
|| The file is mysterious. It certainly seems to have online
|| involvement, but, yea, looks like I can set IE to "work offline", &
|| the file still did work-- this time! Fine-- I'll go look for a pill.
|| In the meantime...
||
|| (a) What will you do with mine?
|| (b) Do you have stuff that analyses it?
|| (c) Send me something to analyse mine, then,
|| which is 93,255 bytes & tough to look at.
||
|| | The only way it would or could be a mess is if YOU manually edited
|| | it, its automatically created/added to by WU. And no, it doesn't
|| | need an Internet connection to work,, its only connection to the
|| | NET [supposedly] is to WU...
||
|| I've looked inside, but hopefully never deleted or moved any of the
|| lines. I have clicked the minus & plus signs-- is all, I think! It is
|| sloppy because...
||
|| (a) There are some failures. The failure reports remained inside,
|| although a later attempt resulted in a complete for the same update.
||
|| (b) The timestamps aren't all in order. Generally, looks like, the
|| newer dates are on top-- but there are plenty out of sequence!
||
|| (c) Some of the updates seem to be in the report TWICE-- & both were
|| a complete. For instance...!...
||
|| - <itemStatus xmlns="" timestamp="2006-06-14T19:32:42">
|| - <identity
||
itemID="win98se.windows98andwindows98secondedition.ver_platform_win32_wi
||
ndows.4.10.x86.en......com_microsoft.windowsmedia9-windows98me-kb917734-
|| x86-182459." name="WINDOWSMEDIA9-WINDOWS98ME-KB917734-X86-182459">
|| <publisherName>com_microsoft</publisherName>
|| <language>en</language>
|| </identity>
|| - <description hidden="0">
|| - <descriptionText>
|| <title>Security Update for Windows Media Player 9 for Windows 98
|| and Windows ME (KB917734)</title>
|| <eula href="/msdownload/update/v3/static/eula/en/eula.htm" />
|| <details href="http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=66393" />
|| </descriptionText>
|| </description>
|| - <platform name="ver_platform_win32_windows">
|| <processorArchitecture>x86</processorArchitecture>
|| <version major="4" minor="10" build="" servicePackMajor=""
|| servicePackMinor="" />
|| </platform>
|| <downloadStatus value="COMPLETE" />
||
||
<downloadPath>h:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.WINDOWSMEDIA9-WINDOWS98ME-KB917734
|| -X86-182459</downloadPath>
|| <client>IU_Site</client>
|| <installStatus value="COMPLETE" needsReboot="0" />
|| </itemStatus>
||
|| - <itemStatus xmlns="" timestamp="2006-06-14T18:39:32">
|| - <identity
||
itemID="win98se.windows98andwindows98secondedition.ver_platform_win32_wi
||
ndows.4.10.x86.en......com_microsoft.windowsmedia9-windows98me-kb917734-
|| x86-182459." name="WINDOWSMEDIA9-WINDOWS98ME-KB917734-X86-182459">
|| <publisherName>com_microsoft</publisherName>
|| <language>en</language>
|| </identity>
|| - <description hidden="0">
|| - <descriptionText>
|| <title>Security Update for Windows Media Player 9 for Windows 98
|| and Windows ME (KB917734)</title>
|| <eula href="/msdownload/update/v3/static/eula/en/eula.htm" />
|| <details href="http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=66393" />
|| </descriptionText>
|| </description>
|| - <platform name="ver_platform_win32_windows">
|| <processorArchitecture>x86</processorArchitecture>
|| <version major="4" minor="10" build="" servicePackMajor=""
|| servicePackMinor="" />
|| </platform>
|| <downloadStatus value="COMPLETE" />
||
||
<downloadPath>h:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.WINDOWSMEDIA9-WINDOWS98ME-KB917734
|| -X86-182459</downloadPath>
|| <client>IU_Site</client>
||
|| |
|| | --
|| | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| | --
|| | _________
|| |
|| | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|| | news:uHBPRK7wIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|| || MEB wrote:
|| || | Thanks PCR, thought you said you had an older installation for a
|| || | check...
|| ||
|| || I have only one, fully updated installation of Win98SE.
|| ||
|| || | BTW if you could send me your old iuhist for comparison, it
|| || | would be appreciated.
|| ||
|| || I have only one IUHist.xml. It requires an internet connection to
|| || work. Are you sure mine would work on your machine? I'm not sure I
|| || want to part with it! Is it safe to have someone else look inside
|| || mine? It's a big mess, anyhow!
|| ||
|| || | I started new testing phases after the December
|| || | 2005 issues., so all iuhist [that I remembered to save] after,
|| || | have not got that in it. I'd like to compare my old ones with
|| || | yours to see what else was removed. Perhaps you may have some
|| || | other things missing which I may not have [due to several
|| || | re-installations during the final support days or before] or
|| || | overlooked..
|| || |
|| || | m_brahier at hotmail dot com
|| || |
|| || | --
|| || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| || | --
|| || | _________
|| || |
|| || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|| || | news:enYFst5wIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|| || || MEB wrote:
|| || || | Okay, hopefully someone has an older installation that can
|| || || | verify prior WU installation to confirm that aspect. Doesn't
|| || || | PCR run an old installation?
|| || ||
|| || || JUST like for you, IUHist.xml shows 823353 came in for me from
|| || || Windows Update. I got it one day before you.
|| || ||
|| || || It is not at the Catalog for Win98 in any of the categories
|| || || (looking for 823353 or MS04-018), which finally has begun to
|| || || work again after 3 days...
|| || || http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp
|| || ||
|| || || And it wasn't among my downloads from the Catalog. So, either I
|| || || didn't look quick enough for it or it never was there.
|| || || HOWEVER...
|| || ||
|| || || http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=19527
|| || || Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018
|| || || Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express (823353)
|| || ||
|| || || ...from our IUHist.xml DOES serve to get to it. Thanks to you &
|| || || Terhune (especially for testing it)-- I took it in, just in
|| || || case I ever need to reinstall it. I took in...
|| || ||
|| || || . Microsoft Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1
|| || || IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe
|| || || Desc: Win32 Cabinet Self-Extractor
|| || || Size: 1,996,544 bytes
|| || || Ver: 6.00.2800.1168
|| || ||
|| || || I'm not sure whether the version refers to the update or the
|| || || Extractor. I DO verify that the files you mentioned are indeed
|| || || the versions I've got. Thanks again to you & Terhune.
|| || ||
|| || || | --
|| || || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
||
||
|| ...snip
|| --
|| Thanks or Good Luck,
|| There may be humor in this post, and,
|| Naturally, you will not sue,
|| Should things get worse after this,
|| PCR
|| pcrrcp@netzero.net

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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net