PCWorld: Macs run Vista faster than PCs

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Mitch

Re: PCWorld: Linux runs faster than Macs

In article <hgk5j.57956$c_1.52209@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
<website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote:

> Appil corporation asstroturfer O x f o r d wrote on behalf of Appil
> Corporation:

That's just stupid.
Please, tell us you don't really think Apple _or_ the happy Mac users
agree with, support, or PAY Oxford for his abusive nonsense.

> Its true Linux runs faster than Appil macs.
No specs or conditions? So you're making this claim about any machine,
and any software, under any usage?
You're a fool.

> Its cheaper too.
No disagreement. It's not equal, but Linux is definitely cheaper.

> Go get a decent PC and install some free Linux.
>
> More eye candy than anything appil payees (retardees) are used to.
So you are one of those playing around with 'eye candy' instead of
doing work? It's almost certain you are saying that customizing a
computer is an important step.

> Search http://www.youtube.com for compiz and beryl and see what I mean!
Or, go to the development sites for those, and get accurate and useful
information. (Since when is YouTube a source of geek truth?)
Just don't expect either oen to tell you much about Linux, since they
are about two specific tools some people like.

> And you know what its all free with source code!
>
> http://www.livecdlist.com
> http://www.distrowatch.com

Yes, we all know that. It's also been discussed, very very often.
It's just not significant.
 
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Mitch

Re: PCWorld: Linux runs faster than Macs

In article <asjdl3l78t0lf0v04bveotf023q73nf8e9@4ax.com>, Chris
<christo9@notalotofunwanted.aol.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:11:25 GMT, 7
> <website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote:
>
> >Its true Linux runs faster than Appil macs.
> >
> >Its cheaper too.
> >
> >Go get a decent PC and install some free Linux.
> >
> >More eye candy than anything appil payees (retardees) are used to.
> >
> >Search http://www.youtube.com for compiz and beryl and see what I mean!
> >
> >And you know what its all free with source code!
> >
> >http://www.livecdlist.com
> >http://www.distrowatch.com
>
> Those previews are truly amazing! What kind of hardware are they
> running on? Can this be achieved with run of the mill hardware or is
> this a quad core machine with the highest end video card?
>
> Chris
> If life seems jolly rotten
> There's something you've forgotten
> and thats to laugh and smile and dance and sing!

Jeez, talk about astroturfing!
The two URLs above do not point to any 'previews' -- and neither did
the previous post or your post.
In fact, neither of you even mentioned a specific OS product at all!

So how is it you are both so impressed with them, and now considering
hardware?
 
M

Mitch

Re: PCWorld: Linux runs faster than Macs

In article <jjF5j.58385$c_1.18233@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
<website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote:

> See the videos for yourself http://www.youtube.com search for compiz and
> beryl.
Jeez, for all the mention of thousands of applications available under
Linux, you keep mentioning only these two -- and you use them to
promote the OS, which they are merely accessories to!

> You'll have to hurry. Linux PCs are hot cakes and
> sold out nearly everywhere.
Hah hah. How can they sell out? As you said, you put Linux on common PC
hardware. (That hasn't sold out.) A since very few builders put Linux
on their machines, and they sell so badly, the reason they sell out
isn't because of high demand but of low demand and low build rate.

> A million new Linux users per month and the rate is increasing.
Where do you get this?
If you can't support it, don't claim it.
 
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Mitch

Re: PCWorld: Linux runs faster than Macs

In article
<df077ba9-16ae-447f-a06a-1251dbc5ac7c@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
jerryeveretts <ifreeley@gmail.com> wrote:

> Apple spends TONS of time to make sure even the slightest
> > detail is double checked for a lifetime of service.
>
> Thats why my Macbook Pro has an annoying Bright white pixel dead in
> the middle of the screen that Apple will do nothing about, they claim
> it is acceptable. All the $399.00 Acers I have bought at work for
> salesman use have had perfect screens.

That's stupid. You're using an example of one against a broad
generalization to make a point?

Next you'll be claiming that all Apple laptops come with a stuck pixel,
and all Windows laptops always have perfect screens.
Please don't.
 
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flatfish

Re: PCWorld: Linux runs faster than Macs

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 12:23:29 -1000, Mitch <mitch@hawaii.rr> wrote:

>In article <jjF5j.58385$c_1.18233@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
><website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote:
>

>> A million new Linux users per month and the rate is increasing.
>Where do you get this?
>If you can't support it, don't claim it.

What are you trying to do Mitch, shut down COLA?
If those bozos had to support their claims, they wouldn't have any
advocates left.

But,,,, now that you bring it up, only about 5 Linux advocates are
left in COLA.
Compare that via Google to 2 years ago.
Where has everyone gone?
 
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spike1@freenet.co.uk

Re: PCWorld: Linux runs faster than Macs

flatfish <flatfish@linuxmail.org> did eloquently scribble:
> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 12:23:29 -1000, Mitch <mitch@hawaii.rr> wrote:

>>In article <jjF5j.58385$c_1.18233@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
>><website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote:
>>

>>> A million new Linux users per month and the rate is increasing.
>>Where do you get this?
>>If you can't support it, don't claim it.

> What are you trying to do Mitch, shut down COLA?
> If those bozos had to support their claims, they wouldn't have any
> advocates left.

> But,,,, now that you bring it up, only about 5 Linux advocates are
> left in COLA.
> Compare that via Google to 2 years ago.
> Where has everyone gone?

I imagine they got bored of you and your "friends" repeating the same lies
over and over and over and over and over and...
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spike1@freenet.co.uk

Re: PCWorld: Linux runs faster than Macs

Mitch <mitch@hawaii.rr> did eloquently scribble:
>> >Its true Linux runs faster than Appil macs.
>> >
>> >Its cheaper too.
>> >
>> >Go get a decent PC and install some free Linux.
^^^^^^
>> >More eye candy than anything appil payees (retardees) are used to.
>> >
>> >Search http://www.youtube.com for compiz and beryl and see what I mean!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>> >And you know what its all free with source code!
>> >
>> >http://www.livecdlist.com
>> >http://www.distrowatch.com
>>
>> Those previews are truly amazing! What kind of hardware are they
>> running on? Can this be achieved with run of the mill hardware or is
>> this a quad core machine with the highest end video card?

> Jeez, talk about astroturfing!
> The two URLs above do not point to any 'previews' -- and neither did
> the previous post or your post.

Underlined for the hard of thinking and/or reading.
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flatfish

Re: PCWorld: Linux runs faster than Macs

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:05:57 +0000, spike1@freenet.co.uk wrote:

>flatfish <flatfish@linuxmail.org> did eloquently scribble:
>> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 12:23:29 -1000, Mitch <mitch@hawaii.rr> wrote:
>
>>>In article <jjF5j.58385$c_1.18233@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
>>><website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote:
>>>
>
>>>> A million new Linux users per month and the rate is increasing.
>>>Where do you get this?
>>>If you can't support it, don't claim it.
>
>> What are you trying to do Mitch, shut down COLA?
>> If those bozos had to support their claims, they wouldn't have any
>> advocates left.
>
>> But,,,, now that you bring it up, only about 5 Linux advocates are
>> left in COLA.
>> Compare that via Google to 2 years ago.
>> Where has everyone gone?
>
>I imagine they got bored of you and your "friends" repeating the same lies
>over and over and over and over and over and...

Doubtful.
I suspect they got tired of Roy Schestowitz and his SPAM machine.
Seems odd they all disappeared around the same time that Roy appeared.
Don't you think?
 
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spike1@freenet.co.uk

Re: PCWorld: Linux runs faster than Macs

flatfish <flatfish@linuxmail.org> did eloquently scribble:
>>I imagine they got bored of you and your "friends" repeating the same lies
>>over and over and over and over and over and...

> Doubtful.
> I suspect they got tired of Roy Schestowitz and his SPAM machine.
> Seems odd they all disappeared around the same time that Roy appeared.
> Don't you think?

Most of them disappeared LONG before roy appeared.
Not that I can remember many of their names.
Only one ex-regular in this newsgroup springs to mind without digging.
Terry Porter.
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Mitch

Re: PCWorld: Linux runs faster than Macs

In article <c5gu25-h5g.ln1@ridcully.ntlworld.com>,
<spike1@freenet.co.uk> wrote:

> >> >More eye candy than anything appil payees (retardees) are used to.
> >> >
> >> >Search http://www.youtube.com for compiz and beryl and see what I mean!
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> > Jeez, talk about astroturfing!
> > The two URLs above do not point to any 'previews' -- and neither did
> > the previous post or your post.
>
> Underlined for the hard of thinking and/or reading.

Okay, let me make it clear to you:

If you do not refer to SPECIFIC VIDEO PREVIEWS, then you aren't talking
about any specific previews, right?
The cite above means you assume ANYTHING coming up from such a search
will show the amazing performance of a Linux box with _no specific OS_!
 
M

Mitch

Re: PCWorld: Linux runs faster than Macs

In article <6jrol3pr056i7u129n9glk8fr77st6e7e6@4ax.com>, flatfish
<flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 12:23:29 -1000, Mitch <mitch@hawaii.rr> wrote:
>
> >In article <jjF5j.58385$c_1.18233@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> ><website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote:
> >
>
> >> A million new Linux users per month and the rate is increasing.
> >Where do you get this?
> >If you can't support it, don't claim it.
>
> What are you trying to do Mitch, shut down COLA?
> If those bozos had to support their claims, they wouldn't have any
> advocates left.

COLA has had problems with abuses, much worse than even CSMA.
It would be better if people just found other places to screw around.
But that doesn't reflect on the OS.

It is very clear that Linux has some MAJOR advantages in flexibility,
customizing, efficiency, and assortments of tools available. It's for
thinking-out-of-the-box people who tinker a lot. Or stability where
there isn't much tinkering or user access.
It doesn't seem to be for people who have a project they need to do
right away, or people who expect the system to always be ready to go.
 
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spike1@freenet.co.uk

Re: PCWorld: Linux runs faster than Macs

Mitch <mitch@hawaii.rr> did eloquently scribble:
> In article <c5gu25-h5g.ln1@ridcully.ntlworld.com>,
> <spike1@freenet.co.uk> wrote:

>> >> >More eye candy than anything appil payees (retardees) are used to.
>> >> >
>> >> >Search http://www.youtube.com for compiz and beryl and see what I mean!
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> > Jeez, talk about astroturfing!
>> > The two URLs above do not point to any 'previews' -- and neither did
>> > the previous post or your post.
>>
>> Underlined for the hard of thinking and/or reading.

> Okay, let me make it clear to you:

> If you do not refer to SPECIFIC VIDEO PREVIEWS, then you aren't talking
> about any specific previews, right?
> The cite above means you assume ANYTHING coming up from such a search
> will show the amazing performance of a Linux box with _no specific OS_!

Or perhaps it means "You assume the FIRST few coming up from such a search
will show the amazing performance of a linux box wi.... hang on...

A linux box with no specific OS?
Does not compute. Or did you mean something less... well... wrong...
Like no specific distro, or no specific desktop environment, or no specific
3d wowbang "look at this, puts vista to shame, eh?" add-on?

The wow factor in those videos is quite distinct from the wow of vista.
For one thing, MY computer could do most of the things in those videos.
My 4 or 5 year OLD computer with less than 1 gig of ram, a crappy MX400
video card and less than 1.5ghz under the hood.

The wow factor of vista is... "WOW!!!! Why does it need so much?!"
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chrisv

Re: PCWorld: Linux runs faster than Macs

spike1@freenet.co.uk wrote:

>> Where has everyone gone?
>
>I imagine they got bored of you and your "friends" repeating the same lies
>over and over and over and over and over and...

Still enough advocates to make it worth trolling, appearently...
 
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Hadron

Re: PCWorld: Linux runs faster than Macs

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> writes:

> spike1@freenet.co.uk wrote:
>
>>> Where has everyone gone?
>>
>>I imagine they got bored of you and your "friends" repeating the same lies
>>over and over and over and over and over and...
>
> Still enough advocates to make it worth trolling, appearently...
>

Your "apparently" says a lot.

COLA is a laughing stock. And you two helped make it so. The real
advocacy happens in the help groups. And the likes of Poaster, Harold
Stevens and others are even helping to muddy the waters there too with
their "what an idiot" and "me too" posts.

Don't believe me?

Willy Boasters last few contribution to the Ubuntu "HELP" group:

,----
| "I think my wife would have something to say about that! <grin>
| He's more likely peeved at being shown up for what he really is."
|
| "Quite so, but Quack adds 2+2 & gets 7, yet again showing his reading &
| comprehension disabilities. I know quite a few people who dual boot a linux
| distro & Win2k or XP, & I know people who use Forte Agent, X-News, &
| Xananews running under WINE too, but *they* don't troll newsgroups.
| Quack's getting desperate in *his* trolling."
|
| "Quite a few regard "Dan C" as a troll, & ignore him "
|
| "Yes, Quack will invariably take the M$ line. He will always argue M$'s
| corner against linux."
`----

There we have it. Ubuntu "help" at its finest.

As for Harold. Well, let's see:

,----
| "I don't care if wintards fsck their eyecandy standalone desktops. Just stay
| the hell off the net with their shoddy, overpriced bugware."
|
| "IMO, it's a classic variation of the "AllGeeksHateAllDumbAsses" troll.
| WHBT HTH YMMV..."
|
| "It's been my experience consistently, years now in Usenet tech groups. A
| couple of malcontents from advocacy lead an infestation, and voila: much
| more noise obscuring good tech advice signal."
`----

Yup. Linux help and advocacy at it's very best.

And you wonder why these people do more harm than good for the Linux
cause?
 
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Mitch

Re: PCWorld: Linux runs faster than Macs

In article <q85v25-vah.ln1@ridcully.ntlworld.com>,
<spike1@freenet.co.uk> wrote:

> >> >> >Search http://www.youtube.com for compiz and beryl and see what I mean!
> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >>
> >> > Jeez, talk about astroturfing!
> >> > The two URLs above do not point to any 'previews' -- and neither did
> >> > the previous post or your post.
> >>
> >> Underlined for the hard of thinking and/or reading.
>
> > Okay, let me make it clear to you:
>
> > If you do not refer to SPECIFIC VIDEO PREVIEWS, then you aren't talking
> > about any specific previews, right?
> > The cite above means you assume ANYTHING coming up from such a search
> > will show the amazing performance of a Linux box with _no specific OS_!
>
> Or perhaps it means "You assume the FIRST few coming up from such a search
> will show the amazing performance of a linux box wi.... hang on...
>
> A linux box with no specific OS?
> Does not compute. Or did you mean something less... well... wrong...
> Like no specific distro, or no specific desktop environment, or no specific
> 3d wowbang "look at this, puts vista to shame, eh?" add-on?

Yes, I meant a SPECIFIC DISTRO.
Unless you are going to argue that the distro package doesn't have any
effect on what the user sees, or is irrelevant to the examples of how
Linux works, then the distro is a critical factor.
We'd have to know which one before talking about anything like
appearance, organization, comprehensiveness, tools, or guidance for new
users.
And I'll expand my comment: video previews are nearly useless for
anything but showing a specific single tool. A potential user should
never be swayed by what is seen in a three-minute video clip,
especially when the source and reliability and plain honesty of that
clip is unknown!
 
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spike1@freenet.co.uk

Re: PCWorld: Linux runs faster than Macs

Mitch <mitch@hawaii.rr> did eloquently scribble:
> Yes, I meant a SPECIFIC DISTRO.
> Unless you are going to argue that the distro package doesn't have any
> effect on what the user sees, or is irrelevant to the examples of how
> Linux works, then the distro is a critical factor.

Well, as long as the distro has a current version of X (probably the last
couple of versions would do too) then yes, any modern distro could do all
the things beryl/compiz/compiz fusion can do.

The only factor might be how difficult it is to get it working, most distros
released recently streamline it in quite nicely, but there are a few that'll
have to have it done manually.

> We'd have to know which one before talking about anything like
> appearance, organization, comprehensiveness, tools, or guidance for new
> users.
> And I'll expand my comment: video previews are nearly useless for
> anything but showing a specific single tool.

The specific, single tool they're showing off is compiz, beryl or the fusion
of the two called compiz fusion. That's what they ARE showing off.
It IS a single tool.
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Cork Soaker

O x f o r d wrote:

> Learn what MAC means... hint: there is no computer called a MAC.

Wow, you must be twelve years old.
 
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Gordon

"Cork Soaker" <Ubuntu@ISeeTitties.invalid> wrote in message
news:fsihc4$9re$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>O x f o r d wrote:
>
>> Learn what MAC means... hint: there is no computer called a MAC.
>
> Wow, you must be twelve years old.


Well mine's called FRED......
 
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NoStop

Cork Soaker wrote:

> O x f o r d wrote:
>
>> Learn what MAC means... hint: there is no computer called a MAC.
>
> Wow, you must be twelve years old.

But there is one called a "MacBook" :)

http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2213035/mac-falls-two-minutes

Cheers.

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George Graves

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:35:32 -0700, Gordon wrote
(in article <e08u09LkIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>):

> "Cork Soaker" <Ubuntu@ISeeTitties.invalid> wrote in message
> news:fsihc4$9re$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> O x f o r d wrote:
>>
>>> Learn what MAC means... hint: there is no computer called a MAC.
>>
>> Wow, you must be twelve years old.
>
>
> Well mine's called FRED......
>

You must have a CHEAP Winbox :->

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