Duplicated Posts Showing in OE

P

PCR

Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems the
first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE. In some
case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination is to reset
the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!

The posts are identical, but their Properties are different. Here is an
example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected directly
to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the dates seem to
indicate different time zones?

From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
72.36.151.58
Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
Lines: 1
Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 15
Message-ID:
<3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr 2008
08:49:51 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
posting-host=212.179.33.130
posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
User-Agent: G2/1.0
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT 5.1
SV1 .NET
CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322 InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
Bytes: 1606
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
-online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.goog
le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation: Sometime this
morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden there were
hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they weren't
"missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems the
> first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE. In some
> case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination is to reset
> the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
>
> The posts are identical, but their Properties are different. Here is an
> example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected directly
> to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the dates seem to
> indicate different time zones?
>
> From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
> Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
> Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
> Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
> User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
> X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
> X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
> 72.36.151.58
> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> Lines: 1
> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>
> From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
> Organization: http://groups.google.com
> Lines: 15
> Message-ID:
> <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr 2008
> 08:49:51 GMT)
> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
> posting-host=212.179.33.130
> posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
> User-Agent: G2/1.0
> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT 5.1
> SV1 .NET
> CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322 InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> Bytes: 1606
> Path:
> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
> -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.goog
> le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
 
N

Nigel Stapley

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation: Sometime
> this morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden there
> were hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they
> weren't "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
>

Yep - I saw the same in Thunderbird, and wondered wtf was going on.

--
Regards

Nigel Stapley

www.thejudge.me.uk

<reply-to will bounce>
 
F

Franc Zabkar

On Mon, 12 May 2008 07:06:22 +0100, Nigel Stapley
<unet@judgemental.plus.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation: Sometime
>> this morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden there
>> were hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they
>> weren't "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
>>
>
>Yep - I saw the same in Thunderbird, and wondered wtf was going on.

I saw the same in Agent. After purging and compacting the newsgroup,
everything was back to normal.

Now I have an unrelated problem in that I can't see my replies to the
"PC not firing up" thread. This has happened to me several times in
the past and I've never managed to find the cause. I've even tried a
third server, aioe.org, which sometimes fixed the problem, but not
this time.

Everything looks OK when I post the message. Agent thinks all went
well. However the messages don't show up in my newsfeed from
msnews.microsoft.com or news.internode.on.net, nor do they show up at
Google Groups. If I try to resend the same message to the aioe.org
news server, it is rejected with an error to the effect that it is
identical to a previously received message, so obviously the messages
are reaching the respective news servers. From there they seem to go
into some kind of bit bucket.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Obviously, some of your messages are getting through. The one I'm replying
to, for instance.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:9rtf249h6eei0gsf6ccpl574cik5h4r7nv@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 12 May 2008 07:06:22 +0100, Nigel Stapley
> <unet@judgemental.plus.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>>> Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation: Sometime
>>> this morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden there
>>> were hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they
>>> weren't "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
>>>
>>
>>Yep - I saw the same in Thunderbird, and wondered wtf was going on.
>
> I saw the same in Agent. After purging and compacting the newsgroup,
> everything was back to normal.
>
> Now I have an unrelated problem in that I can't see my replies to the
> "PC not firing up" thread. This has happened to me several times in
> the past and I've never managed to find the cause. I've even tried a
> third server, aioe.org, which sometimes fixed the problem, but not
> this time.
>
> Everything looks OK when I post the message. Agent thinks all went
> well. However the messages don't show up in my newsfeed from
> msnews.microsoft.com or news.internode.on.net, nor do they show up at
> Google Groups. If I try to resend the same message to the aioe.org
> news server, it is rejected with an error to the effect that it is
> identical to a previously received message, so obviously the messages
> are reaching the respective news servers. From there they seem to go
> into some kind of bit bucket.
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

And here I thought it was just me so I didn't mention it!

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation: Sometime this
> morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden there were
> hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they weren't
> "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
>
>
> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems the
>> first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE. In some
>> case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination is to reset
>> the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
>>
>> The posts are identical, but their Properties are different. Here is an
>> example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected directly
>> to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the dates seem to
>> indicate different time zones?
>>
>> From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
>> Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
>> Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
>> Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
>> User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
>> X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
>> X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
>> 72.36.151.58
>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
>> Lines: 1
>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>>
>> From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>> Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
>> Organization: http://groups.google.com
>> Lines: 15
>> Message-ID:
>> <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
>> Mime-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr 2008
>> 08:49:51 GMT)
>> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
>> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
>> Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
>> posting-host=212.179.33.130
>> posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
>> User-Agent: G2/1.0
>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT 5.1
>> SV1 .NET
>> CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322 InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>> Bytes: 1606
>> Path:
>> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
>> -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.goog
>> le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks or Good Luck,
>> There may be humor in this post, and,
>> Naturally, you will not sue,
>> Should things get worse after this,
>> PCR
>> pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

I started to look for "missing messages" and then realized I didn't care,
<g>.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uEoDTYEtIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> And here I thought it was just me so I didn't mention it!
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation: Sometime
>> this
>> morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden there were
>> hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they weren't
>> "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
>>
>>
>> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems the
>>> first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE. In some
>>> case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination is to reset
>>> the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
>>>
>>> The posts are identical, but their Properties are different. Here is an
>>> example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected directly
>>> to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the dates seem to
>>> indicate different time zones?
>>>
>>> From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
>>> Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
>>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
>>> Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
>>> Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
>>> User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
>>> X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
>>> X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
>>> 72.36.151.58
>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
>>> Lines: 1
>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
>>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
>>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>>>
>>> From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>> Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
>>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
>>> Organization: http://groups.google.com
>>> Lines: 15
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
>>> Mime-Version: 1.0
>>> Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr 2008
>>> 08:49:51 GMT)
>>> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
>>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
>>> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
>>> Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
>>> posting-host=212.179.33.130
>>> posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
>>> User-Agent: G2/1.0
>>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT 5.1
>>> SV1 .NET
>>> CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322 InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>>> Bytes: 1606
>>> Path:
>>> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
>>> -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.goog
>>> le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
>>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
>>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks or Good Luck,
>>> There may be humor in this post, and,
>>> Naturally, you will not sue,
>>> Should things get worse after this,
>>> PCR
>>> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

PA, have you seen Chris Quirke? We've got a little problem that is perfect
for him but I haven't gotten any responses and he apparently hasn't been
active in the groups for a while. Did he change his handle? Any ideas who
else might know lots about the topic? Thread is above: "Missing prgs-
files -updates" if you feel like taking a look.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uEoDTYEtIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> And here I thought it was just me so I didn't mention it!
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation: Sometime
>> this
>> morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden there were
>> hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they weren't
>> "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
>>
>>
>> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems the
>>> first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE. In some
>>> case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination is to reset
>>> the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
>>>
>>> The posts are identical, but their Properties are different. Here is an
>>> example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected directly
>>> to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the dates seem to
>>> indicate different time zones?
>>>
>>> From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
>>> Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
>>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
>>> Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
>>> Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
>>> User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
>>> X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
>>> X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
>>> 72.36.151.58
>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
>>> Lines: 1
>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
>>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
>>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>>>
>>> From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>> Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
>>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
>>> Organization: http://groups.google.com
>>> Lines: 15
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
>>> Mime-Version: 1.0
>>> Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr 2008
>>> 08:49:51 GMT)
>>> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
>>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
>>> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
>>> Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
>>> posting-host=212.179.33.130
>>> posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
>>> User-Agent: G2/1.0
>>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT 5.1
>>> SV1 .NET
>>> CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322 InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>>> Bytes: 1606
>>> Path:
>>> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
>>> -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.goog
>>> le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
>>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
>>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks or Good Luck,
>>> There may be humor in this post, and,
>>> Naturally, you will not sue,
>>> Should things get worse after this,
>>> PCR
>>> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
 
M

MEB

No, I got them also, apparently in addition to the changes in Live [now
apparently being modified] they have also been changing the other server
coding. The message reset appeared to date back to around the 12th [April]
though not ALL of the posts [206 reset messages were downloaded].

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uEoDTYEtIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| And here I thought it was just me so I didn't mention it!
|
| Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| > Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation: Sometime
this
| > morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden there were
| > hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they
weren't
| > "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
| >
| >
| > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| >> Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems the
| >> first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE. In some
| >> case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination is to reset
| >> the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
| >>
| >> The posts are identical, but their Properties are different. Here is an
| >> example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected directly
| >> to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the dates seem to
| >> indicate different time zones?
| >>
| >> From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| >> Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
| >> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
| >> Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| >> Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
| >> User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
| >> X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
| >> X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
| >> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
| >> 72.36.151.58
| >> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
| >> Lines: 1
| >> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
| >> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
| >> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| >>
| >> From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
| >> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| >> Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
| >> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
| >> Organization: http://groups.google.com
| >> Lines: 15
| >> Message-ID:
| >> <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
| >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
| >> Mime-Version: 1.0
| >> Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
| >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| >> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr 2008
| >> 08:49:51 GMT)
| >> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| >> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
| >> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| >> Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
| >> posting-host=212.179.33.130
| >> posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
| >> User-Agent: G2/1.0
| >> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT 5.1
| >> SV1 .NET
| >> CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322 InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
| >> Bytes: 1606
| >> Path:
| >>
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
|
>> -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.goog
| >> le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
| >> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
| >> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
| >> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| >>
| >>
| >> --
| >> Thanks or Good Luck,
| >> There may be humor in this post, and,
| >> Naturally, you will not sue,
| >> Should things get worse after this,
| >> PCR
| >> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

He drops in on DTS-L and MVPSecTalk lists from time to time (usually in
spurts) so he's around, yes cquirke[AT]the usual.

Odd case, that. Hijackware? Try reinstalling Windows?

Only one hit of any mention for that error:

How To Troubleshoot Run-Time Error '429' in DCOM Applications:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177394

Otherwise, take your pick:
http://support.microsoft.com/search...talog=LCID=1033&spid=&mode=r&lsc=0&range=1-70
--
~PA Bear


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> PA, have you seen Chris Quirke? We've got a little problem that is perfect
> for him but I haven't gotten any responses and he apparently hasn't been
> active in the groups for a while. Did he change his handle? Any ideas who
> else might know lots about the topic? Thread is above: "Missing prgs-
> files -updates" if you feel like taking a look.
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uEoDTYEtIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> And here I thought it was just me so I didn't mention it!
>>
>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>>> Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation: Sometime
>>> this
>>> morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden there were
>>> hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they
>>> weren't
>>> "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
>>>
>>>
>>> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
>>> news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems the
>>>> first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE. In some
>>>> case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination is to reset
>>>> the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
>>>>
>>>> The posts are identical, but their Properties are different. Here is an
>>>> example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected directly
>>>> to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the dates seem to
>>>> indicate different time zones?
>>>>
>>>> From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
>>>> Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
>>>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
>>>> Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
>>>> Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
>>>> User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
>>>> X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
>>>> X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
>>>> 72.36.151.58
>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
>>>> Lines: 1
>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
>>>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
>>>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>>>>
>>>> From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>> Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
>>>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
>>>> Organization: http://groups.google.com
>>>> Lines: 15
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
>>>> Mime-Version: 1.0
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>>> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr 2008
>>>> 08:49:51 GMT)
>>>> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
>>>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
>>>> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
>>>> Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
>>>> posting-host=212.179.33.130
>>>> posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
>>>> User-Agent: G2/1.0
>>>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT 5.1
>>>> SV1 .NET
>>>> CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322 InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>>>> Bytes: 1606
>>>> Path:
>>>> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
>>>> -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.goog
>>>> le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
>>>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
>>>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks or Good Luck,
>>>> There may be humor in this post, and,
>>>> Naturally, you will not sue,
>>>> Should things get worse after this,
>>>> PCR
>>>> pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

That's why I want further info on just what it is that disappeared. There's
what looks like a whole partition got wiped, but the OP isn't quite clear on
the details of what's gone from where (he's got three partitions.) Anyway,
waiting for answers.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eCnEpCGtIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> He drops in on DTS-L and MVPSecTalk lists from time to time (usually in
> spurts) so he's around, yes cquirke[AT]the usual.
>
> Odd case, that. Hijackware? Try reinstalling Windows?
>
> Only one hit of any mention for that error:
>
> How To Troubleshoot Run-Time Error '429' in DCOM Applications:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177394
>
> Otherwise, take your pick:
> http://support.microsoft.com/search...talog=LCID=1033&spid=&mode=r&lsc=0&range=1-70
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> PA, have you seen Chris Quirke? We've got a little problem that is
>> perfect
>> for him but I haven't gotten any responses and he apparently hasn't been
>> active in the groups for a while. Did he change his handle? Any ideas who
>> else might know lots about the topic? Thread is above: "Missing prgs-
>> files -updates" if you feel like taking a look.
>>
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uEoDTYEtIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> And here I thought it was just me so I didn't mention it!
>>>
>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>>>> Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation: Sometime
>>>> this
>>>> morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden there were
>>>> hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they
>>>> weren't
>>>> "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems the
>>>>> first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE. In some
>>>>> case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination is to
>>>>> reset
>>>>> the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
>>>>>
>>>>> The posts are identical, but their Properties are different. Here is
>>>>> an
>>>>> example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected directly
>>>>> to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the dates seem to
>>>>> indicate different time zones?
>>>>>
>>>>> From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
>>>>> Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
>>>>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
>>>>> Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
>>>>> Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
>>>>> User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
>>>>> X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
>>>>> X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
>>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
>>>>> 72.36.151.58
>>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
>>>>> Lines: 1
>>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
>>>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
>>>>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
>>>>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>>>>>
>>>>> From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
>>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>>> Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
>>>>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>> Organization: http://groups.google.com
>>>>> Lines: 15
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
>>>>> Mime-Version: 1.0
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>>>> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr 2008
>>>>> 08:49:51 GMT)
>>>>> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
>>>>> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
>>>>> Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
>>>>> posting-host=212.179.33.130
>>>>> posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
>>>>> User-Agent: G2/1.0
>>>>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT 5.1
>>>>> SV1 .NET
>>>>> CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322 InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>>>>> Bytes: 1606
>>>>> Path:
>>>>> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
>>>>> -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.goog
>>>>> le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
>>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
>>>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
>>>>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
>>>>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Thanks or Good Luck,
>>>>> There may be humor in this post, and,
>>>>> Naturally, you will not sue,
>>>>> Should things get worse after this,
>>>>> PCR
>>>>> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

If OP's done a runner, not much you can do about it (except argue with
Maurice/MEB!)

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> That's why I want further info on just what it is that disappeared.
> There's
> what looks like a whole partition got wiped, but the OP isn't quite clear
> on
> the details of what's gone from where (he's got three partitions.) Anyway,
> waiting for answers.
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eCnEpCGtIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> He drops in on DTS-L and MVPSecTalk lists from time to time (usually in
>> spurts) so he's around, yes cquirke[AT]the usual.
>>
>> Odd case, that. Hijackware? Try reinstalling Windows?
>>
>> Only one hit of any mention for that error:
>>
>> How To Troubleshoot Run-Time Error '429' in DCOM Applications:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177394
>>
>> Otherwise, take your pick:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/search...talog=LCID=1033&spid=&mode=r&lsc=0&range=1-70
>> --
>> ~PA Bear
>>
>>
>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>>> PA, have you seen Chris Quirke? We've got a little problem that is
>>> perfect
>>> for him but I haven't gotten any responses and he apparently hasn't been
>>> active in the groups for a while. Did he change his handle? Any ideas
>>> who
>>> else might know lots about the topic? Thread is above: "Missing prgs-
>>> files -updates" if you feel like taking a look.
>>>
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uEoDTYEtIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> And here I thought it was just me so I didn't mention it!
>>>>
>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>>>>> Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation: Sometime
>>>>> this
>>>>> morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden there
>>>>> were
>>>>> hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they
>>>>> weren't
>>>>> "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems the
>>>>>> first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE. In
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination is to
>>>>>> reset
>>>>>> the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The posts are identical, but their Properties are different. Here is
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected
>>>>>> directly
>>>>>> to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the dates seem
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> indicate different time zones?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
>>>>>> Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
>>>>>> Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
>>>>>> Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
>>>>>> User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
>>>>>> X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
>>>>>> X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
>>>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
>>>>>> 72.36.151.58
>>>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
>>>>>> Lines: 1
>>>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
>>>>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
>>>>>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
>>>>>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>>>> Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>> Organization: http://groups.google.com
>>>>>> Lines: 15
>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>> <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
>>>>>> Mime-Version: 1.0
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>>>>> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr 2008
>>>>>> 08:49:51 GMT)
>>>>>> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
>>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
>>>>>> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
>>>>>> Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
>>>>>> posting-host=212.179.33.130
>>>>>> posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
>>>>>> User-Agent: G2/1.0
>>>>>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT 5.1
>>>>>> SV1 .NET
>>>>>> CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322 InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>>>>>> Bytes: 1606
>>>>>> Path:
>>>>>> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
>>>>>> -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.goog
>>>>>> le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
>>>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
>>>>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
>>>>>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
>>>>>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Thanks or Good Luck,
>>>>>> There may be humor in this post, and,
>>>>>> Naturally, you will not sue,
>>>>>> Should things get worse after this,
>>>>>> PCR
>>>>>> pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
P

PCR

Uhuh-- hundreds of unread duplicates! But, in most/many cases, it seemed
to be just the initial post of certain threads that was duplicated. If
it was due to drunkenness & puking, can it be they had put Brian A.
temporarily in charge? What did Ctrl-A do? Do you mean, instead, you
highlighted the duplicates & pressed Ctrl-D? I lean toward a reset,
which I see did cure Zabcar.

Anyhow, I see it wasn't just me &/or P.A. Bear that was affected. I see
it doesn't matter what news reader is used, by Stapley's & Zabcar's
words. The phenomenon hasn't affected my other (non-MS) NG, either-- so,
it's something screwy at the MS Server going on, though I'm not
convinced it's the same shenanigan that MEB recently encountered with
his HotMail.

I guess I'll reset the NG. OK, thanks.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:ebEcUx%23sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation: Sometime
this
| morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden there
were
| hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they
weren't
| "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems the
| > first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE. In
some
| > case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination is to
reset
| > the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
| >
| > The posts are identical, but their Properties are different. Here is
an
| > example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected
directly
| > to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the dates seem
to
| > indicate different time zones?
| >
| > From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| > Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
| > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
| > Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| > Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
| > User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
| > X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
| > X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
| > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| > NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
| > 72.36.151.58
| > Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
| > Lines: 1
| > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
| > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
| > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| >
| > From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
| > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| > Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
| > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
| > Organization: http://groups.google.com
| > Lines: 15
| > Message-ID:
| > <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
| > NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
| > Mime-Version: 1.0
| > Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
| > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| > X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr 2008
| > 08:49:51 GMT)
| > X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| > NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
| > Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| > Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
| > posting-host=212.179.33.130
| > posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
| > User-Agent: G2/1.0
| > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT 5.1
| > SV1 .NET
| > CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322 InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
| > Bytes: 1606
| > Path:
| >
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
|
> -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.go
og
| > le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
| > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
| > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
| > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > Should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| >
| >
|
 
G

glee

The OP replied to PCR yesterday that "The prg with the activeX thing has been
reinstalled and running" but I dunno if that means he is no longer getting the
runtime error, as he hasn't been back in the thread since.

Too many variables and not enough info to determine the cause of the missing files.
It could as easily be hardware-related data loss, user error, malware, or.......
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eCnEpCGtIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> He drops in on DTS-L and MVPSecTalk lists from time to time (usually in spurts) so
> he's around, yes cquirke[AT]the usual.
>
> Odd case, that. Hijackware? Try reinstalling Windows?
>
> Only one hit of any mention for that error:
>
> How To Troubleshoot Run-Time Error '429' in DCOM Applications:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177394
>
> Otherwise, take your pick:
> http://support.microsoft.com/search...talog=LCID=1033&spid=&mode=r&lsc=0&range=1-70
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> PA, have you seen Chris Quirke? We've got a little problem that is perfect
>> for him but I haven't gotten any responses and he apparently hasn't been
>> active in the groups for a while. Did he change his handle? Any ideas who
>> else might know lots about the topic? Thread is above: "Missing prgs-
>> files -updates" if you feel like taking a look.
>>
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uEoDTYEtIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> And here I thought it was just me so I didn't mention it!
>>>
>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>>>> Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation: Sometime
>>>> this
>>>> morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden there were
>>>> hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they weren't
>>>> "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems the
>>>>> first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE. In some
>>>>> case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination is to reset
>>>>> the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
>>>>>
>>>>> The posts are identical, but their Properties are different. Here is an
>>>>> example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected directly
>>>>> to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the dates seem to
>>>>> indicate different time zones?
>>>>>
>>>>> From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
>>>>> Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
>>>>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
>>>>> Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
>>>>> Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
>>>>> User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
>>>>> X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
>>>>> X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
>>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
>>>>> 72.36.151.58
>>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
>>>>> Lines: 1
>>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
>>>>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
>>>>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>>>>>
>>>>> From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
>>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>>> Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
>>>>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>> Organization: http://groups.google.com
>>>>> Lines: 15
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
>>>>> Mime-Version: 1.0
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>>>> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr 2008
>>>>> 08:49:51 GMT)
>>>>> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
>>>>> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
>>>>> Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
>>>>> posting-host=212.179.33.130
>>>>> posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
>>>>> User-Agent: G2/1.0
>>>>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT 5.1
>>>>> SV1 .NET
>>>>> CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322 InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>>>>> Bytes: 1606
>>>>> Path:
>>>>> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
>>>>> -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.goog
>>>>> le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
>>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
>>>>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
>>>>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Thanks or Good Luck,
>>>>> There may be humor in this post, and,
>>>>> Naturally, you will not sue,
>>>>> Should things get worse after this,
>>>>> PCR
>>>>> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

<BG>

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OcBF6SGtIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> If OP's done a runner, not much you can do about it (except argue with
> Maurice/MEB!)
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> That's why I want further info on just what it is that disappeared.
>> There's
>> what looks like a whole partition got wiped, but the OP isn't quite clear
>> on
>> the details of what's gone from where (he's got three partitions.)
>> Anyway,
>> waiting for answers.
>>
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eCnEpCGtIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> He drops in on DTS-L and MVPSecTalk lists from time to time (usually in
>>> spurts) so he's around, yes cquirke[AT]the usual.
>>>
>>> Odd case, that. Hijackware? Try reinstalling Windows?
>>>
>>> Only one hit of any mention for that error:
>>>
>>> How To Troubleshoot Run-Time Error '429' in DCOM Applications:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177394
>>>
>>> Otherwise, take your pick:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/search...talog=LCID=1033&spid=&mode=r&lsc=0&range=1-70
>>> --
>>> ~PA Bear
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>>>> PA, have you seen Chris Quirke? We've got a little problem that is
>>>> perfect
>>>> for him but I haven't gotten any responses and he apparently hasn't
>>>> been
>>>> active in the groups for a while. Did he change his handle? Any ideas
>>>> who
>>>> else might know lots about the topic? Thread is above: "Missing prgs-
>>>> files -updates" if you feel like taking a look.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uEoDTYEtIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> And here I thought it was just me so I didn't mention it!
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>>>>>> Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation: Sometime
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden there
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they
>>>>>> weren't
>>>>>> "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems the
>>>>>>> first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE. In
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination is to
>>>>>>> reset
>>>>>>> the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The posts are identical, but their Properties are different. Here is
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected
>>>>>>> directly
>>>>>>> to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the dates seem
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> indicate different time zones?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
>>>>>>> Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
>>>>>>> Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
>>>>>>> Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
>>>>>>> User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
>>>>>>> X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
>>>>>>> X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
>>>>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
>>>>>>> 72.36.151.58
>>>>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
>>>>>>> Lines: 1
>>>>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
>>>>>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
>>>>>>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
>>>>>>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>>>>> Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>>> Organization: http://groups.google.com
>>>>>>> Lines: 15
>>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>>> <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
>>>>>>> Mime-Version: 1.0
>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>>>>>> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr 2008
>>>>>>> 08:49:51 GMT)
>>>>>>> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
>>>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
>>>>>>> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
>>>>>>> Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> posting-host=212.179.33.130
>>>>>>> posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
>>>>>>> User-Agent: G2/1.0
>>>>>>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT 5.1
>>>>>>> SV1 .NET
>>>>>>> CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322 InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>>>>>>> Bytes: 1606
>>>>>>> Path:
>>>>>>> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
>>>>>>> -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.goog
>>>>>>> le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
>>>>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
>>>>>>> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
>>>>>>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
>>>>>>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Thanks or Good Luck,
>>>>>>> There may be humor in this post, and,
>>>>>>> Naturally, you will not sue,
>>>>>>> Should things get worse after this,
>>>>>>> PCR
>>>>>>> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Ctrl-A in Outlook Express, marks All messages as Read.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:eIhtblItIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Uhuh-- hundreds of unread duplicates! But, in most/many cases, it seemed
> to be just the initial post of certain threads that was duplicated. If
> it was due to drunkenness & puking, can it be they had put Brian A.
> temporarily in charge? What did Ctrl-A do? Do you mean, instead, you
> highlighted the duplicates & pressed Ctrl-D? I lean toward a reset,
> which I see did cure Zabcar.
>
> Anyhow, I see it wasn't just me &/or P.A. Bear that was affected. I see
> it doesn't matter what news reader is used, by Stapley's & Zabcar's
> words. The phenomenon hasn't affected my other (non-MS) NG, either-- so,
> it's something screwy at the MS Server going on, though I'm not
> convinced it's the same shenanigan that MEB recently encountered with
> his HotMail.
>
> I guess I'll reset the NG. OK, thanks.
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:ebEcUx%23sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation: Sometime
> this
> | morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden there
> were
> | hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they
> weren't
> | "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
> |
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems the
> | > first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE. In
> some
> | > case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination is to
> reset
> | > the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
> | >
> | > The posts are identical, but their Properties are different. Here is
> an
> | > example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected
> directly
> | > to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the dates seem
> to
> | > indicate different time zones?
> | >
> | > From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
> | > Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
> | > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
> | > Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
> | > Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
> | > User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
> | > X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
> | > X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
> | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
> | > 72.36.151.58
> | > Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> | > Lines: 1
> | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
> | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
> | > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> | >
> | > From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
> | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> | > Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
> | > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
> | > Organization: http://groups.google.com
> | > Lines: 15
> | > Message-ID:
> | > <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
> | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
> | > Mime-Version: 1.0
> | > Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
> | > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> | > X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr 2008
> | > 08:49:51 GMT)
> | > X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> | > NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
> | > Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> | > Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
> | > posting-host=212.179.33.130
> | > posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
> | > User-Agent: G2/1.0
> | > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT 5.1
> | > SV1 .NET
> | > CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322 InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> | > Bytes: 1606
> | > Path:
> | >
> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
> |
>> -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.go
> og
> | > le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
> | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
> | > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> | >
> | >
> | > --
> | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > Should things get worse after this,
> | > PCR
> | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | >
> | >
> |
>
>
 
B

Brian A.

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:eIhtblItIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Uhuh-- hundreds of unread duplicates! But, in most/many cases, it seemed
> to be just the initial post of certain threads that was duplicated. If
> it was due to drunkenness & puking, can it be they had put Brian A.
> temporarily in charge?

No Way!! I was somewhere else that day, just ask my witness Otis Campbell.


--


Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
 
P

PCR

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
news:%23pmAaBJtIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:eIhtblItIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > Uhuh-- hundreds of unread duplicates! But, in most/many cases, it
seemed
| > to be just the initial post of certain threads that was duplicated.
If
| > it was due to drunkenness & puking, can it be they had put Brian A.
| > temporarily in charge?
|
| No Way!! I was somewhere else that day, just ask my witness Otis
Campbell.
|

I'll have to wait for him to climb back up from under the table!

| --
|
|
| Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
| Conflicts start where information lacks.
| http://basconotw.mvps.org/
|
| Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
| How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
|
|
|
|
 
P

PCR

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%23M$tV7ItIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| Ctrl-A in Outlook Express, marks All messages as Read.

Alright. I did the reset & then the equivalent of that. Oh, no! It's
much the same as before. What's up??? It took about an hour for me to
read in 3030 posts! Here's another sample...!...

From: dave xnet <Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local>
Subject: Folder double-click or Open doesn't do anything
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 19:54:46 -0500
Message-ID: <Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local>
Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
X-Originating-IP: davexnet02DEL@E
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
72.36.151.58
Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
Lines: 1
Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840170
X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

From: dave xnet <davexnet02DEL@ETEyahoo.com>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Subject: Folder double-click or Open doesn't do anything
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 17:54:46 -0700
Message-ID: <p3v12417boi890viht782bejbmhki7t1j9@4ax.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 12
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.169.242.207
X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS01.phx.gbl!newsf
eed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giga
news.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69
..16.185.51.MISMATCH!tmp-post01.iad!news.highwinds-media.com!roadrunner.c
om!not-for-mail
Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839942
X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean


| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:eIhtblItIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > Uhuh-- hundreds of unread duplicates! But, in most/many cases, it
seemed
| > to be just the initial post of certain threads that was duplicated.
If
| > it was due to drunkenness & puking, can it be they had put Brian A.
| > temporarily in charge? What did Ctrl-A do? Do you mean, instead, you
| > highlighted the duplicates & pressed Ctrl-D? I lean toward a reset,
| > which I see did cure Zabcar.
| >
| > Anyhow, I see it wasn't just me &/or P.A. Bear that was affected. I
see
| > it doesn't matter what news reader is used, by Stapley's & Zabcar's
| > words. The phenomenon hasn't affected my other (non-MS) NG, either--
so,
| > it's something screwy at the MS Server going on, though I'm not
| > convinced it's the same shenanigan that MEB recently encountered
with
| > his HotMail.
| >
| > I guess I'll reset the NG. OK, thanks.
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > Should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > news:ebEcUx%23sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > | Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation:
Sometime
| > this
| > | morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden there
| > were
| > | hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they
| > weren't
| > | "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | www.grystmill.com
| > |
| > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > | news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > | > Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems
the
| > | > first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE.
In
| > some
| > | > case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination is
to
| > reset
| > | > the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
| > | >
| > | > The posts are identical, but their Properties are different.
Here is
| > an
| > | > example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected
| > directly
| > | > to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the dates
seem
| > to
| > | > indicate different time zones?
| > | >
| > | > From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| > | > Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
| > | > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
| > | > Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| > | > Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
| > | > User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
| > | > X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
| > | > X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
| > | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| > | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
| > | > 72.36.151.58
| > | > Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
| > | > Lines: 1
| > | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
| > | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
| > | > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| > | >
| > | > From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
| > | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| > | > Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
| > | > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
| > | > Organization: http://groups.google.com
| > | > Lines: 15
| > | > Message-ID:
| > | >
<3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
| > | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
| > | > Mime-Version: 1.0
| > | > Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
| > | > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| > | > X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr
2008
| > | > 08:49:51 GMT)
| > | > X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| > | > NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
| > | > Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| > | > Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
| > | > posting-host=212.179.33.130
| > | > posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
| > | > User-Agent: G2/1.0
| > | > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT
5.1
| > | > SV1 .NET
| > | > CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322
InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
| > | > Bytes: 1606
| > | > Path:
| > | >
| >
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
| > |
|
>> -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.g
o
| > og
| > | > le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
| > | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
| > | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
| > | > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | > Should things get worse after this,
| > | > PCR
| > | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| >
| >
|
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

You're acting as if I really care what happened to the server, <bg>. I
don't. It puked, it didn't provide any new messages that I would care about,
end of story.

But... Your two samples were sent using different email addresses and are
posted at the same time but off by four hours. My bet is that whoever made
this one: Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local, was setting up an nntp server and
screwed up, resulting in his server reposting the messages, using the
different email address and wrong time stamp.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:O6NySNJtIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:%23M$tV7ItIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | Ctrl-A in Outlook Express, marks All messages as Read.
>
> Alright. I did the reset & then the equivalent of that. Oh, no! It's
> much the same as before. What's up??? It took about an hour for me to
> read in 3030 posts! Here's another sample...!...
>
> From: dave xnet <Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local>
> Subject: Folder double-click or Open doesn't do anything
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 19:54:46 -0500
> Message-ID: <Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local>
> Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
> User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
> X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
> X-Originating-IP: davexnet02DEL@E
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
> 72.36.151.58
> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> Lines: 1
> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840170
> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message
> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>
> From: dave xnet <davexnet02DEL@ETEyahoo.com>
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> Subject: Folder double-click or Open doesn't do anything
> Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 17:54:46 -0700
> Message-ID: <p3v12417boi890viht782bejbmhki7t1j9@4ax.com>
> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Lines: 12
> Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.169.242.207
> X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com
> Path:
> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS01.phx.gbl!newsf
> eed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giga
> news.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69
> .16.185.51.MISMATCH!tmp-post01.iad!news.highwinds-media.com!roadrunner.c
> om!not-for-mail
> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839942
> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message
> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>
>
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:eIhtblItIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | > Uhuh-- hundreds of unread duplicates! But, in most/many cases, it
> seemed
> | > to be just the initial post of certain threads that was duplicated.
> If
> | > it was due to drunkenness & puking, can it be they had put Brian A.
> | > temporarily in charge? What did Ctrl-A do? Do you mean, instead, you
> | > highlighted the duplicates & pressed Ctrl-D? I lean toward a reset,
> | > which I see did cure Zabcar.
> | >
> | > Anyhow, I see it wasn't just me &/or P.A. Bear that was affected. I
> see
> | > it doesn't matter what news reader is used, by Stapley's & Zabcar's
> | > words. The phenomenon hasn't affected my other (non-MS) NG, either--
> so,
> | > it's something screwy at the MS Server going on, though I'm not
> | > convinced it's the same shenanigan that MEB recently encountered
> with
> | > his HotMail.
> | >
> | > I guess I'll reset the NG. OK, thanks.
> | >
> | > --
> | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > Should things get worse after this,
> | > PCR
> | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > news:ebEcUx%23sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > | Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation:
> Sometime
> | > this
> | > | morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden there
> | > were
> | > | hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they
> | > weren't
> | > | "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
> | > |
> | > | --
> | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > |
> | > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | > | news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > | > Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems
> the
> | > | > first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE.
> In
> | > some
> | > | > case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination is
> to
> | > reset
> | > | > the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
> | > | >
> | > | > The posts are identical, but their Properties are different.
> Here is
> | > an
> | > | > example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected
> | > directly
> | > | > to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the dates
> seem
> | > to
> | > | > indicate different time zones?
> | > | >
> | > | > From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
> | > | > Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
> | > | > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
> | > | > Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
> | > | > Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
> | > | > User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
> | > | > X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
> | > | > X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
> | > | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> | > | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
> | > | > 72.36.151.58
> | > | > Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> | > | > Lines: 1
> | > | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> | > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
> | > | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
> | > | > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> | > | >
> | > | > From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
> | > | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> | > | > Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
> | > | > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
> | > | > Organization: http://groups.google.com
> | > | > Lines: 15
> | > | > Message-ID:
> | > | >
> <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
> | > | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
> | > | > Mime-Version: 1.0
> | > | > Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
> | > | > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> | > | > X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr
> 2008
> | > | > 08:49:51 GMT)
> | > | > X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> | > | > NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
> | > | > Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> | > | > Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
> | > | > posting-host=212.179.33.130
> | > | > posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
> | > | > User-Agent: G2/1.0
> | > | > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT
> 5.1
> | > | > SV1 .NET
> | > | > CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322
> InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> | > | > Bytes: 1606
> | > | > Path:
> | > | >
> | >
> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
> | > |
> |
>>> -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.g
> o
> | > og
> | > | > le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> | > | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> | > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
> | > | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
> | > | > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > | > Should things get worse after this,
> | > | > PCR
> | > | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
>
>
 
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