Duplicated Posts Showing in OE

M

MEB

Could it be the *block* segment you attempted to post.....

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"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O54$EzZtIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| Tried posting your messages myself, haven't gone through yet, so [though
the
| CERT did, which was posted afterwards] ...
|
| Why did you try aioe.org, just as a test?
|
| Did you attempt to use some other server/service, rather than
| internode.on.net [which came through]?
|
| --
| MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| --
| _________
|
| "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
| news:rmvk245d0fht5jj0613d3rpofbvigm4b4f@4ax.com...
| | On Wed, 14 May 2008 15:39:14 +1000, Franc Zabkar
| | <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:
| |
| | >On Wed, 14 May 2008 01:09:26 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| | >put finger to keyboard and composed:
| | >
| | >>Got through twice,,, are you not seeing it?
| | >>
| | >>--
| | >>MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| | >
| | >Yes I saw both copies. I intentionally sent it twice just to see if
| | >the MS news server would baulk. The aioe.org news server (which went
| | >off-line yesterday because the domain name registration expired)
| | >doesn't allow duplicate posts and lets me know if I try to resend the
| | >same post.
| | >
| | >This is my 7th post to this thread. Neither of my two attempts at a
| | >reply to Gary appear in my newsfeed. However, my newsreader seems to
| | >think that the messages went through.
| | >
| | >This is really weird. I still can't respond to the "PC not firing up"
| | >thread, either.
| | >
| | >- Franc Zabkar
| |
| | There was also one reply to glee that didn't get through. Just in case
| | there was something peculiar about the content of my posts, I sent
| | them to alt.test. They all got through. <shrug>
| |
| | Here they are:
| |
| | PC not firing up:
| |
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.test/msg/fe69a2d3e2250293?dmode=source
| |
| | Duplicated Posts Showing in OE:
| |
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.test/msg/c97fc7a12aecbd9f?dmode=source
| |
| | - Franc Zabkar
| | --
| | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
|
|
 
M

MEB

Nope, re-looking at the messages [headers etc.], that doesn't appear to be
the issue...
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Your reply to Glen got through just fine, sent Monday evening, your time. I
see no replies to me from you in this thread.

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Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:rmvk245d0fht5jj0613d3rpofbvigm4b4f@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 14 May 2008 15:39:14 +1000, Franc Zabkar
> <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>On Wed, 14 May 2008 01:09:26 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
>>put finger to keyboard and composed:
>>
>>>Got through twice,,, are you not seeing it?
>>>
>>>--
>>>MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>>
>>Yes I saw both copies. I intentionally sent it twice just to see if
>>the MS news server would baulk. The aioe.org news server (which went
>>off-line yesterday because the domain name registration expired)
>>doesn't allow duplicate posts and lets me know if I try to resend the
>>same post.
>>
>>This is my 7th post to this thread. Neither of my two attempts at a
>>reply to Gary appear in my newsfeed. However, my newsreader seems to
>>think that the messages went through.
>>
>>This is really weird. I still can't respond to the "PC not firing up"
>>thread, either.
>>
>>- Franc Zabkar
>
> There was also one reply to glee that didn't get through. Just in case
> there was something peculiar about the content of my posts, I sent
> them to alt.test. They all got through. <shrug>
>
> Here they are:
>
> PC not firing up:
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.test/msg/fe69a2d3e2250293?dmode=source
>
> Duplicated Posts Showing in OE:
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.test/msg/c97fc7a12aecbd9f?dmode=source
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
M

MEB

There was another attempt, the one Franc attempted to post, and I attempted
to post for Franc [cutting and pasting from the alt.test, removing much of
the header {leaving only the references} using my access], which will not
post. The other Franc listed, was attempted at posting by me, NOT in the
original thread but in one presently running [Dan's computer] however, that
ALSO will not post.

There appears to be nothing contained within the message which would cause
the issue, UNLESS it might deal with his posting ORG or otherwise.

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MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
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"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%23EH$TMdtIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| Your reply to Glen got through just fine, sent Monday evening, your time.
I
| see no replies to me from you in this thread.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
| news:rmvk245d0fht5jj0613d3rpofbvigm4b4f@4ax.com...
| > On Wed, 14 May 2008 15:39:14 +1000, Franc Zabkar
| > <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:
| >
| >>On Wed, 14 May 2008 01:09:26 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| >>put finger to keyboard and composed:
| >>
| >>>Got through twice,,, are you not seeing it?
| >>>
| >>>--
| >>>MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| >>
| >>Yes I saw both copies. I intentionally sent it twice just to see if
| >>the MS news server would baulk. The aioe.org news server (which went
| >>off-line yesterday because the domain name registration expired)
| >>doesn't allow duplicate posts and lets me know if I try to resend the
| >>same post.
| >>
| >>This is my 7th post to this thread. Neither of my two attempts at a
| >>reply to Gary appear in my newsfeed. However, my newsreader seems to
| >>think that the messages went through.
| >>
| >>This is really weird. I still can't respond to the "PC not firing up"
| >>thread, either.
| >>
| >>- Franc Zabkar
| >
| > There was also one reply to glee that didn't get through. Just in case
| > there was something peculiar about the content of my posts, I sent
| > them to alt.test. They all got through. <shrug>
| >
| > Here they are:
| >
| > PC not firing up:
| >
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.test/msg/fe69a2d3e2250293?dmode=source
| >
| > Duplicated Posts Showing in OE:
| >
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.test/msg/c97fc7a12aecbd9f?dmode=source
| >
| > - Franc Zabkar
| > --
| > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
|
 
P

PCR

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:eFE4D2VtIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| At least!

I guess I must be grateful all my posts to this thread are posting,
anyhow. I see Zabcar is having trouble. It's happened to me in others
threads, though! I don't see a response from him to you in here-- & yet
he has proven he did so!

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:ONC94zVtIHA.3604@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| > | You have more than enough information to deduce whatever could
| > | possibly be deduced from this end. Someone was doing something at
| > | "http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway" and
screwed
| > | up. Microsoft had nothing to do with it except if they want to
clean
| > | it up, which I suspect they won't.
| >
| > Well, I don't see that any new ones came in today. Maybe they've
fixed
| > it. I guess computerhelpforums was sending old posts to the MS
server a
| > second time! The first is dated 4/12/08 12:22 AM by Bill of Co., &
the
| > last is 5/10/08 4:14 AM by MEB. But those both came in yesterday to
join
| > the duplicate already here! I'll hold back on any curse or spell on
you
| > three/four MVPs until I see a new one. I think I owe you that much!
| >
| > | --
| > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | www.grystmill.com
| > |
| > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > | news:uyDZdxJtIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > |> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > |> news:%23RfrgfJtIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > |> | You're acting as if I really care what happened to the server,
| > |> | <bg>. I don't. It puked, it didn't provide any new messages
that I
| > |> | would care about, end of story.
| > |>
| > |> I'm putting it on your head & Bear's head & even Brian A.'s head
as
| > |> MVP's to find an actual MS personage & hold his feet to the fire
for
| > |> a cure! Did someone spill bear on the server?
| > |>
| > |> | But... Your two samples were sent using different email
addresses
| > |> | and are posted at the same time but off by four hours. My bet
is
| > |> | that whoever made this one: Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local, was
| > |> | setting up an nntp server and screwed up, resulting in his
server
| > |> | reposting the messages, using the different email address and
| > |> | wrong time stamp.
| > |>
| > |> I'm beginning to discover each duplicated post has one
difference--
| > |> the 1st one has a note on the bottom stating...
| > |>
| > |> Posted via http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway
| > |>
| > |> What could it mean? As far as the time, actually OE shows them in
its
| > |> display to be the same exact time-- it only looks different in
the
| > |> Properties.
| > |>
| > |> | --
| > |> | Gary S. Terhune
| > |> | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > |> | www.grystmill.com
| > |> |
| > |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > |> | news:O6NySNJtIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > |> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > |> | > news:%23M$tV7ItIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > |> | > | Ctrl-A in Outlook Express, marks All messages as Read.
| > |> | >
| > |> | > Alright. I did the reset & then the equivalent of that. Oh,
no!
| > |> | > It's much the same as before. What's up??? It took about an
hour
| > |> | > for me to read in 3030 posts! Here's another sample...!...
| > |> | >
| > |> | > From: dave xnet <Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local>
| > |> | > Subject: Folder double-click or Open doesn't do anything
| > |> | > Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 19:54:46 -0500
| > |> | > Message-ID: <Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local>
| > |> | > Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
| > |> | > User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
| > |> | > X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
| > |> | > X-Originating-IP: davexnet02DEL@E
| > |> | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| > |> | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
| > |> | > 72.36.151.58
| > |> | > Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
| > |> | > Lines: 1
| > |> | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| > |> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840170
| > |> | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound
message
| > |> | > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| > |> | >
| > |> | > From: dave xnet <davexnet02DEL@ETEyahoo.com>
| > |> | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| > |> | > Subject: Folder double-click or Open doesn't do anything
| > |> | > Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 17:54:46 -0700
| > |> | > Message-ID: <p3v12417boi890viht782bejbmhki7t1j9@4ax.com>
| > |> | > X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118
| > |> | > MIME-Version: 1.0
| > |> | > Content-Type: text/plain charset=us-ascii
| > |> | > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| > |> | > Lines: 12
| > |> | > Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com
| > |> | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.169.242.207
| > |> | > X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com
| > |> | > Path:
| > |> | >
| > |>
| >
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS01.phx.gbl!newsf
| > |> | >
| > |>
| >
eed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giga
| > |> | >
| > |>
| >
news.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69
| > |> | >
| > |>
| >
..16.185.51.MISMATCH!tmp-post01.iad!news.highwinds-media.com!roadrunner.c
| > |> | > om!not-for-mail
| > |> | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| > |> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839942
| > |> | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound
message
| > |> | > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| > |> | >
| > |> | >
| > |> | > | --
| > |> | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > |> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > |> | > | www.grystmill.com
| > |> | > |
| > |> | > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > |> | > | news:eIhtblItIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > |> | > | > Uhuh-- hundreds of unread duplicates! But, in most/many
| > |> | > | > cases, it seemed to be just the initial post of certain
| > |> | > | > threads that was duplicated. If it was due to drunkenness
&
| > |> | > | > puking, can it be they had put Brian A. temporarily in
| > |> | > | > charge? What did Ctrl-A do? Do you mean, instead, you
| > |> | > | > highlighted the duplicates & pressed Ctrl-D? I lean
toward a
| > |> | > | > reset, which I see did cure Zabcar.
| > |> | > | >
| > |> | > | > Anyhow, I see it wasn't just me &/or P.A. Bear that was
| > |> | > | > affected. I see it doesn't matter what news reader is
used,
| > |> | > | > by Stapley's & Zabcar's words. The phenomenon hasn't
| > |> | > | > affected my other (non-MS) NG, either-- so, it's
something
| > |> | > | > screwy at the MS Server going on, though I'm not
convinced
| > |> | > | > it's the same shenanigan that MEB recently encountered
with
| > |> | > | > his HotMail.
| > |> | > | >
| > |> | > | > I guess I'll reset the NG. OK, thanks.
| > |> | > | >
| > |> | > | > --
| > |> | > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > |> | > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > |> | > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > |> | > | > Should things get worse after this,
| > |> | > | > PCR
| > |> | > | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > |> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > |> | > | > news:ebEcUx%23sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > |> | > | > | Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical
| > |> | > | > | explanation: Sometime this morning, the server puked.
| > |> | > | > | During a refresh, all of a sudden there were hundreds
of
| > |> | > | > | unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they
| > |> | > | > | weren't "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
| > |> | > | > |
| > |> | > | > | --
| > |> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > |> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > |> | > | > | www.grystmill.com
| > |> | > | > |
| > |> | > | > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > |> | > | > | news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > |> | > | > | > Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this
NG!?
| > |> | > | > | > It seems the first post in many threads are showing
the
| > |> | > | > | > initial post
| > |> TWICE.
| > |> | > In
| > |> | > | > some
| > |> | > | > | > case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My
| > |> | > | > | > inclination
| > |> is
| > |> | > to
| > |> | > | > reset
| > |> | > | > | > the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even
investigate!
| > |> | > | > | >
| > |> | > | > | > The posts are identical, but their Properties are
| > |> | > | > | > different. Here is an example. Can the posts be
coming
| > |> | > | > | > into this NG (I am connected directly to the MS
Server)
| > |> | > | > | > from two different sources? Why do the
| > |> dates
| > |> | > seem
| > |> | > | > to
| > |> | > | > | > indicate different time zones?
| > |> | > | > | >
| > |> | > | > | > From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| > |> | > | > | > Subject: wise install new product version on an old
| > |> | > | > | > version Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
| > |> | > | > | > Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| > |> | > | > | > Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
| > |> | > | > | > User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
| > |> | > | > | > X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
| > |> | > | > | > X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
| > |> | > | > | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| > |> | > | > | > NNTP-Posting-Host:
| > |> | > | > | > 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
| > |> | > | > | > 72.36.151.58
| > |> | > | > | > Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
| > |> | > | > | > Lines: 1
| > |> | > | > | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| > |> | > | > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
| > |> | > | > | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008),
Inbound
| > |> | > | > | > message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| > |> | > | > | >
| > |> | > | > | > From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
| > |> | > | > | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| > |> | > | > | > Subject: wise install new product version on an old
| > |> | > | > | > version Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
| > |> | > | > | > Organization: http://groups.google.com
| > |> | > | > | > Lines: 15
| > |> | > | > | > Message-ID:
| > |> | > | > | >
| > |> | >
| > <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
| > |> | > | > | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
| > |> | > | > | > Mime-Version: 1.0
| > |> | > | > | > Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
| > |> | > | > | > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| > |> | > | > | > X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365
127.0.0.1
| > |> | > | > | > (29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 GMT)
| > |> | > | > | > X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| > |> | > | > | > NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000
(UTC)
| > |> | > | > | > Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| > |> | > | > | > Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
| > |> | > | > | > posting-host=212.179.33.130
| > |> | > | > | > posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
| > |> | > | > | > User-Agent: G2/1.0
| > |> | > | > | > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0
| > |> | > | > | > Windows NT 5.1 SV1 .NET
| > |> | > | > | > CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322
| > |> | > InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
| > |> | > | > | > Bytes: 1606
| > |> | > | > | > Path:
| > |> | > | > | >
| > |> | > | >
| > |> | >
| > |>
| >
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
| > |> | > | > |
| > |> | > |
| > |> |
| >
|>>>> -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnew
| > s.
| > |> g
| > |> | > o
| > |> | > | > og
| > |> | > | > | > le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
| > |> | > | > | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| > |> | > | > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
| > |> | > | > | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008),
Inbound
| > |> | > | > | > message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| > |> | > | > | >
| > |> | > | > | >
| > |> | > | > | > --
| > |> | > | > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > |> | > | > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > |> | > | > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > |> | > | > | > Should things get worse after this,
| > |> | > | > | > PCR
| > |> | > | > | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > Should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| >
| >
|
 
P

PCR

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23wV$HDWtIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| What has apparently escaped many is:
|
| This would be considered as a hack. Be it for advertising, increasing
net
| presence [and yes spiders search for this type of info as well] or
other.
| It would be interesting to see if this was done in the other forums
as
| well. That would potential increase the NET presence for this service
by
| thousands of users *supposedly* using the service. Think potential
| revenue/advertising.

I'm thinking it's just a horrible mistake or someone spilt beer on the
MS server or on computerhelpforums. I haven't seen new duplicates for
two days I think. And I'm still waiting for Otis Campbell to come to for
questioning! That's Brian A.'s drinking buddy!

| --
| MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| --
| _________
|
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:ej9Lg3VtIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| | MEB wrote:
| | | Hmm, interesting, you may have found the potential answer.
| | | Not *this* server reset, but another which caused this by
reposting
| | | the originals back to the group... didn't notice that,,
| |
| | Yep. Looks like these are old posts coming in a 2nd time.
| |
| | | FIND provided these results:
| | |
| | | 199 messages - from 04-12-08 to 05-12-08 with the Posted via
| | | http://computerhelpforums.net
| |
| | I see 202 that way, but it's also showing replies to posts that
contain
| | that. Odd, I thought there were 100 more than that yesterday. I
guess
| | the reset I did adjusted it somewhat.
| |
| | | Gee, seems an un-reputable [and likely illegal] way to make a
server
| | | *appear* to be the news posting portal of choice by most of the
| | | posters here. Of course this will be reflected on ALL mirrors, so
| | | either this was an honest mistake, or this group and Microsoft
just
| | | got hacked.
| |
| | I don't mind them appending the advertisement-- if only they'll send
it
| | just once! I notice this current post of yours does not contain it.
So--
| | you sent this one here directly? Or can I expect the other to come
in a
| | week or two?
| |
| | | --
| | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| | | --
| | | _________
| | |
| | | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| | | news:eC2njsJtIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| | || Wait a minute! A reset & compact didn't cure it-- I STILL have
| | || duplicates! However, now I am noticing they aren't precisely
| | || duplicated. The first seems always to have this note at the
bottom...
| | ||
| | || Posted via http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway
| | ||
| | || So, I guess whoever uses that forum gets to have his post appear
here
| | || TWICE! Or are they, themselves, posting it twice-- once to there
&
| | || once to here -- & causing me & P.A. Bear to see double!!? MEB!
What
| | || about you...?...
| | ||
| | || From: MEB <Guest.399ho6@nntp.nospam.local>
| | || Subject: Login issues Live.com
| | || Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 03:14:18 -0500
| | || Message-ID: <Guest.399ho6@nntp.nospam.local>
| | || Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
| | || User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
| | || X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
| | || X-Originating-IP: meb@not here@ho
| | || Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| | || NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
| | || 72.36.151.58
| | || Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
| | || Lines: 1
| | || Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| | || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840176 X-Antivirus: avast!
| | || (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message X-Antivirus-Status:
Clean
| | ||
| | || From: "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| | || Subject: Login issues Live.com
| | || Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 04:14:18 -0400
| | || Lines: 8
| | || X-Priority: 3
| | || X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
| | || X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
| | || X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
| | || X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080509-0, 05/09/2008), Outbound message
| | || X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| | || Message-ID: <O6ITaXnsIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
| | || Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| | || NNTP-Posting-Host: ACA6986D.ipt.aol.com 172.166.152.109
| | || Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
| | || Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| | || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840024 X-Antivirus: avast!
| | || (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message X-Antivirus-Status:
Clean
| | ||
| | ||
| | || --
| | || Thanks or Good Luck,
| | || There may be humor in this post, and,
| | || Naturally, you will not sue,
| | || Should things get worse after this,
| | || PCR
| | || pcrrcp@netzero.net
| | || "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| | || news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| | || | Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems
the
| | || | first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE.
In
| | || | some case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My
inclination
| | || | is to
| | || reset
| | || | the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
| | || |
| | || | The posts are identical, but their Properties are different.
Here
| | || | is
| | || an
| | || | example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected
| | || | directly to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do
the
| | || | dates seem to indicate different time zones?
| | || |
| | || | From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| | || | Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
| | || | Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
| | || | Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| | || | Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
| | || | User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
| | || | X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
| | || | X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
| | || | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| | || | NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
| | || | 72.36.151.58
| | || | Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
| | || | Lines: 1
| | || | Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| | || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
| | || | X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
| | || | X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| | || |
| | || | From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
| | || | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| | || | Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
| | || | Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
| | || | Organization: http://groups.google.com
| | || | Lines: 15
| | || | Message-ID:
| | || |
<3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
| | || | NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
| | || | Mime-Version: 1.0
| | || | Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
| | || | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| | || | X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr
2008
| | || | 08:49:51 GMT)
| | || | X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| | || | NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
| | || | Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| | || | Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
| | || | posting-host=212.179.33.130
| | || | posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
| | || | User-Agent: G2/1.0
| | || | X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT
| | || | 5.1 SV1 .NET
| | || | CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322
InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
| | || | Bytes: 1606
| | || | Path:
| | || |
| | ||
| |
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
| | ||
| |
| -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.go
| | || | og le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
| | || | Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| | || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
| | || | X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
| | || | X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

....snip
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

I'm not really following the details.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:%23rR998gtIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:eFE4D2VtIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | At least!
>
> I guess I must be grateful all my posts to this thread are posting,
> anyhow. I see Zabcar is having trouble. It's happened to me in others
> threads, though! I don't see a response from him to you in here-- & yet
> he has proven he did so!
>
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:ONC94zVtIHA.3604@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> | > | You have more than enough information to deduce whatever could
> | > | possibly be deduced from this end. Someone was doing something at
> | > | "http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway" and
> screwed
> | > | up. Microsoft had nothing to do with it except if they want to
> clean
> | > | it up, which I suspect they won't.
> | >
> | > Well, I don't see that any new ones came in today. Maybe they've
> fixed
> | > it. I guess computerhelpforums was sending old posts to the MS
> server a
> | > second time! The first is dated 4/12/08 12:22 AM by Bill of Co., &
> the
> | > last is 5/10/08 4:14 AM by MEB. But those both came in yesterday to
> join
> | > the duplicate already here! I'll hold back on any curse or spell on
> you
> | > three/four MVPs until I see a new one. I think I owe you that much!
> | >
> | > | --
> | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > |
> | > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | > | news:uyDZdxJtIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | > |> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > |> news:%23RfrgfJtIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | > |> | You're acting as if I really care what happened to the server,
> | > |> | <bg>. I don't. It puked, it didn't provide any new messages
> that I
> | > |> | would care about, end of story.
> | > |>
> | > |> I'm putting it on your head & Bear's head & even Brian A.'s head
> as
> | > |> MVP's to find an actual MS personage & hold his feet to the fire
> for
> | > |> a cure! Did someone spill bear on the server?
> | > |>
> | > |> | But... Your two samples were sent using different email
> addresses
> | > |> | and are posted at the same time but off by four hours. My bet
> is
> | > |> | that whoever made this one: Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local, was
> | > |> | setting up an nntp server and screwed up, resulting in his
> server
> | > |> | reposting the messages, using the different email address and
> | > |> | wrong time stamp.
> | > |>
> | > |> I'm beginning to discover each duplicated post has one
> difference--
> | > |> the 1st one has a note on the bottom stating...
> | > |>
> | > |> Posted via http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway
> | > |>
> | > |> What could it mean? As far as the time, actually OE shows them in
> its
> | > |> display to be the same exact time-- it only looks different in
> the
> | > |> Properties.
> | > |>
> | > |> | --
> | > |> | Gary S. Terhune
> | > |> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > |> | www.grystmill.com
> | > |> |
> | > |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | > |> | news:O6NySNJtIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | > |> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > |> | > news:%23M$tV7ItIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | > |> | > | Ctrl-A in Outlook Express, marks All messages as Read.
> | > |> | >
> | > |> | > Alright. I did the reset & then the equivalent of that. Oh,
> no!
> | > |> | > It's much the same as before. What's up??? It took about an
> hour
> | > |> | > for me to read in 3030 posts! Here's another sample...!...
> | > |> | >
> | > |> | > From: dave xnet <Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local>
> | > |> | > Subject: Folder double-click or Open doesn't do anything
> | > |> | > Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 19:54:46 -0500
> | > |> | > Message-ID: <Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local>
> | > |> | > Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
> | > |> | > User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
> | > |> | > X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
> | > |> | > X-Originating-IP: davexnet02DEL@E
> | > |> | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> | > |> | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
> | > |> | > 72.36.151.58
> | > |> | > Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> | > |> | > Lines: 1
> | > |> | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> | > |> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840170
> | > |> | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound
> message
> | > |> | > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> | > |> | >
> | > |> | > From: dave xnet <davexnet02DEL@ETEyahoo.com>
> | > |> | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> | > |> | > Subject: Folder double-click or Open doesn't do anything
> | > |> | > Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 17:54:46 -0700
> | > |> | > Message-ID: <p3v12417boi890viht782bejbmhki7t1j9@4ax.com>
> | > |> | > X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118
> | > |> | > MIME-Version: 1.0
> | > |> | > Content-Type: text/plain charset=us-ascii
> | > |> | > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> | > |> | > Lines: 12
> | > |> | > Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com
> | > |> | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.169.242.207
> | > |> | > X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com
> | > |> | > Path:
> | > |> | >
> | > |>
> | >
> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS01.phx.gbl!newsf
> | > |> | >
> | > |>
> | >
> eed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giga
> | > |> | >
> | > |>
> | >
> news.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69
> | > |> | >
> | > |>
> | >
> .16.185.51.MISMATCH!tmp-post01.iad!news.highwinds-media.com!roadrunner.c
> | > |> | > om!not-for-mail
> | > |> | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> | > |> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839942
> | > |> | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound
> message
> | > |> | > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> | > |> | >
> | > |> | >
> | > |> | > | --
> | > |> | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > |> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > |> | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > |> | > |
> | > |> | > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | > |> | > | news:eIhtblItIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | > |> | > | > Uhuh-- hundreds of unread duplicates! But, in most/many
> | > |> | > | > cases, it seemed to be just the initial post of certain
> | > |> | > | > threads that was duplicated. If it was due to drunkenness
> &
> | > |> | > | > puking, can it be they had put Brian A. temporarily in
> | > |> | > | > charge? What did Ctrl-A do? Do you mean, instead, you
> | > |> | > | > highlighted the duplicates & pressed Ctrl-D? I lean
> toward a
> | > |> | > | > reset, which I see did cure Zabcar.
> | > |> | > | >
> | > |> | > | > Anyhow, I see it wasn't just me &/or P.A. Bear that was
> | > |> | > | > affected. I see it doesn't matter what news reader is
> used,
> | > |> | > | > by Stapley's & Zabcar's words. The phenomenon hasn't
> | > |> | > | > affected my other (non-MS) NG, either-- so, it's
> something
> | > |> | > | > screwy at the MS Server going on, though I'm not
> convinced
> | > |> | > | > it's the same shenanigan that MEB recently encountered
> with
> | > |> | > | > his HotMail.
> | > |> | > | >
> | > |> | > | > I guess I'll reset the NG. OK, thanks.
> | > |> | > | >
> | > |> | > | > --
> | > |> | > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > |> | > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > |> | > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > |> | > | > Should things get worse after this,
> | > |> | > | > PCR
> | > |> | > | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | > |> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > |> | > | > news:ebEcUx%23sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > |> | > | > | Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical
> | > |> | > | > | explanation: Sometime this morning, the server puked.
> | > |> | > | > | During a refresh, all of a sudden there were hundreds
> of
> | > |> | > | > | unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they
> | > |> | > | > | weren't "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
> | > |> | > | > |
> | > |> | > | > | --
> | > |> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > |> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > |> | > | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > |> | > | > |
> | > |> | > | > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | > |> | > | > | news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > |> | > | > | > Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this
> NG!?
> | > |> | > | > | > It seems the first post in many threads are showing
> the
> | > |> | > | > | > initial post
> | > |> TWICE.
> | > |> | > In
> | > |> | > | > some
> | > |> | > | > | > case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My
> | > |> | > | > | > inclination
> | > |> is
> | > |> | > to
> | > |> | > | > reset
> | > |> | > | > | > the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even
> investigate!
> | > |> | > | > | >
> | > |> | > | > | > The posts are identical, but their Properties are
> | > |> | > | > | > different. Here is an example. Can the posts be
> coming
> | > |> | > | > | > into this NG (I am connected directly to the MS
> Server)
> | > |> | > | > | > from two different sources? Why do the
> | > |> dates
> | > |> | > seem
> | > |> | > | > to
> | > |> | > | > | > indicate different time zones?
> | > |> | > | > | >
> | > |> | > | > | > From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
> | > |> | > | > | > Subject: wise install new product version on an old
> | > |> | > | > | > version Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
> | > |> | > | > | > Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
> | > |> | > | > | > Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
> | > |> | > | > | > User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
> | > |> | > | > | > X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
> | > |> | > | > | > X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
> | > |> | > | > | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> | > |> | > | > | > NNTP-Posting-Host:
> | > |> | > | > | > 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
> | > |> | > | > | > 72.36.151.58
> | > |> | > | > | > Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> | > |> | > | > | > Lines: 1
> | > |> | > | > | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> | > |> | > | > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
> | > |> | > | > | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008),
> Inbound
> | > |> | > | > | > message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> | > |> | > | > | >
> | > |> | > | > | > From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
> | > |> | > | > | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> | > |> | > | > | > Subject: wise install new product version on an old
> | > |> | > | > | > version Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
> | > |> | > | > | > Organization: http://groups.google.com
> | > |> | > | > | > Lines: 15
> | > |> | > | > | > Message-ID:
> | > |> | > | > | >
> | > |> | >
> | > <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
> | > |> | > | > | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
> | > |> | > | > | > Mime-Version: 1.0
> | > |> | > | > | > Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
> | > |> | > | > | > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> | > |> | > | > | > X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365
> 127.0.0.1
> | > |> | > | > | > (29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 GMT)
> | > |> | > | > | > X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> | > |> | > | > | > NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000
> (UTC)
> | > |> | > | > | > Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> | > |> | > | > | > Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
> | > |> | > | > | > posting-host=212.179.33.130
> | > |> | > | > | > posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
> | > |> | > | > | > User-Agent: G2/1.0
> | > |> | > | > | > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0
> | > |> | > | > | > Windows NT 5.1 SV1 .NET
> | > |> | > | > | > CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322
> | > |> | > InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> | > |> | > | > | > Bytes: 1606
> | > |> | > | > | > Path:
> | > |> | > | > | >
> | > |> | > | >
> | > |> | >
> | > |>
> | >
> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
> | > |> | > | > |
> | > |> | > |
> | > |> |
> | >
> |>>>> -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnew
> | > s.
> | > |> g
> | > |> | > o
> | > |> | > | > og
> | > |> | > | > | > le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> | > |> | > | > | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> | > |> | > | > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
> | > |> | > | > | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008),
> Inbound
> | > |> | > | > | > message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> | > |> | > | > | >
> | > |> | > | > | >
> | > |> | > | > | > --
> | > |> | > | > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > |> | > | > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > |> | > | > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > |> | > | > | > Should things get worse after this,
> | > |> | > | > | > PCR
> | > |> | > | > | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | >
> | > --
> | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > Should things get worse after this,
> | > PCR
> | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | >
> | >
> |
>
>
 
M

MEB

It may take longer than that,,, was there a convention recently???{erp}

The CERT MIGHT explain a bit of the issue, server updates...

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:%23UZKQDhtIHA.1328@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:%23wV$HDWtIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| | What has apparently escaped many is:
| |
| | This would be considered as a hack. Be it for advertising, increasing
| net
| | presence [and yes spiders search for this type of info as well] or
| other.
| | It would be interesting to see if this was done in the other forums
| as
| | well. That would potential increase the NET presence for this service
| by
| | thousands of users *supposedly* using the service. Think potential
| | revenue/advertising.
|
| I'm thinking it's just a horrible mistake or someone spilt beer on the
| MS server or on computerhelpforums. I haven't seen new duplicates for
| two days I think. And I'm still waiting for Otis Campbell to come to for
| questioning! That's Brian A.'s drinking buddy!
|
| | --
| | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| | --
| | _________
| |
| |
| | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| | news:ej9Lg3VtIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| | | MEB wrote:
| | | | Hmm, interesting, you may have found the potential answer.
| | | | Not *this* server reset, but another which caused this by
| reposting
| | | | the originals back to the group... didn't notice that,,
| | |
| | | Yep. Looks like these are old posts coming in a 2nd time.
| | |
| | | | FIND provided these results:
| | | |
| | | | 199 messages - from 04-12-08 to 05-12-08 with the Posted via
| | | | http://computerhelpforums.net
| | |
| | | I see 202 that way, but it's also showing replies to posts that
| contain
| | | that. Odd, I thought there were 100 more than that yesterday. I
| guess
| | | the reset I did adjusted it somewhat.
| | |
| | | | Gee, seems an un-reputable [and likely illegal] way to make a
| server
| | | | *appear* to be the news posting portal of choice by most of the
| | | | posters here. Of course this will be reflected on ALL mirrors, so
| | | | either this was an honest mistake, or this group and Microsoft
| just
| | | | got hacked.
| | |
| | | I don't mind them appending the advertisement-- if only they'll send
| it
| | | just once! I notice this current post of yours does not contain it.
| So--
| | | you sent this one here directly? Or can I expect the other to come
| in a
| | | week or two?
| | |
| | | | --
| | | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| | | | --
| | | | _________
| | | |
| | | | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| | | | news:eC2njsJtIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| | | || Wait a minute! A reset & compact didn't cure it-- I STILL have
| | | || duplicates! However, now I am noticing they aren't precisely
| | | || duplicated. The first seems always to have this note at the
| bottom...
| | | ||
| | | || Posted via http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway
| | | ||
| | | || So, I guess whoever uses that forum gets to have his post appear
| here
| | | || TWICE! Or are they, themselves, posting it twice-- once to there
| &
| | | || once to here -- & causing me & P.A. Bear to see double!!? MEB!
| What
| | | || about you...?...
| | | ||
| | | || From: MEB <Guest.399ho6@nntp.nospam.local>
| | | || Subject: Login issues Live.com
| | | || Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 03:14:18 -0500
| | | || Message-ID: <Guest.399ho6@nntp.nospam.local>
| | | || Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
| | | || User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
| | | || X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
| | | || X-Originating-IP: meb@not here@ho
| | | || Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| | | || NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
| | | || 72.36.151.58
| | | || Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
| | | || Lines: 1
| | | || Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| | | || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840176 X-Antivirus: avast!
| | | || (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message X-Antivirus-Status:
| Clean
| | | ||
| | | || From: "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| | | || Subject: Login issues Live.com
| | | || Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 04:14:18 -0400
| | | || Lines: 8
| | | || X-Priority: 3
| | | || X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
| | | || X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
| | | || X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
| | | || X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080509-0, 05/09/2008), Outbound message
| | | || X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| | | || Message-ID: <O6ITaXnsIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
| | | || Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| | | || NNTP-Posting-Host: ACA6986D.ipt.aol.com 172.166.152.109
| | | || Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
| | | || Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| | | || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840024 X-Antivirus: avast!
| | | || (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message X-Antivirus-Status:
| Clean
| | | ||
| | | ||
| | | || --
| | | || Thanks or Good Luck,
| | | || There may be humor in this post, and,
| | | || Naturally, you will not sue,
| | | || Should things get worse after this,
| | | || PCR
| | | || pcrrcp@netzero.net
| | | || "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| | | || news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| | | || | Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems
| the
| | | || | first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE.
| In
| | | || | some case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My
| inclination
| | | || | is to
| | | || reset
| | | || | the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
| | | || |
| | | || | The posts are identical, but their Properties are different.
| Here
| | | || | is
| | | || an
| | | || | example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected
| | | || | directly to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do
| the
| | | || | dates seem to indicate different time zones?
| | | || |
| | | || | From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| | | || | Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
| | | || | Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
| | | || | Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| | | || | Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
| | | || | User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
| | | || | X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
| | | || | X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
| | | || | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| | | || | NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
| | | || | 72.36.151.58
| | | || | Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
| | | || | Lines: 1
| | | || | Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| | | || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
| | | || | X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
| | | || | X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| | | || |
| | | || | From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
| | | || | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| | | || | Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
| | | || | Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
| | | || | Organization: http://groups.google.com
| | | || | Lines: 15
| | | || | Message-ID:
| | | || |
| <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
| | | || | NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
| | | || | Mime-Version: 1.0
| | | || | Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
| | | || | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| | | || | X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr
| 2008
| | | || | 08:49:51 GMT)
| | | || | X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| | | || | NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
| | | || | Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| | | || | Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
| | | || | posting-host=212.179.33.130
| | | || | posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
| | | || | User-Agent: G2/1.0
| | | || | X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT
| | | || | 5.1 SV1 .NET
| | | || | CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322
| InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
| | | || | Bytes: 1606
| | | || | Path:
| | | || |
| | | ||
| | |
| TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
| | | ||
| | |
| | -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.go
| | | || | og le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
| | | || | Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| | | || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
| | | || | X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
| | | || | X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
|
| ...snip
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net
|
|
 
B

Brian A.

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:ONC94zVtIHA.3604@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> | You have more than enough information to deduce whatever could
> | possibly be deduced from this end. Someone was doing something at
> | "http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway" and screwed
> | up. Microsoft had nothing to do with it except if they want to clean
> | it up, which I suspect they won't.
>
> Well, I don't see that any new ones came in today. Maybe they've fixed
> it. I guess computerhelpforums was sending old posts to the MS server a
> second time! The first is dated 4/12/08 12:22 AM by Bill of Co., & the
> last is 5/10/08 4:14 AM by MEB. But those both came in yesterday to join
> the duplicate already here! I'll hold back on any curse or spell on you
> three/four MVPs until I see a new one. I think I owe you that much!

In that case I'll try my best to hold back Ernest T. from heading over to your
place, he's quite the wiley one though.



--


Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
 
F

Franc Zabkar

On Wed, 14 May 2008 04:30:21 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Tried posting your messages myself, haven't gone through yet, so [though the
>CERT did, which was posted afterwards] ...

OK, so does that mean there is something in the content that is
causing the message to be discarded? I'll try splitting the message
into two parts and sending the parts separately.

> Why did you try aioe.org, just as a test?

I've used aioe.org in the past as a backup news server whenever I've
had problems posting to the others.

> Did you attempt to use some other server/service, rather than
>internode.on.net [which came through]?
>
>--
>MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

I've having problems with all three news servers (Internode, MS,
aioe).

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
F

Franc Zabkar

On Mon, 12 May 2008 08:26:12 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>Obviously, some of your messages are getting through. The one I'm replying
>to, for instance.

That's what makes it even more puzzling.

In fact I tried sending the same problem message on its own in a new
thread, but it also hasn't got through.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
F

Franc Zabkar

On Mon, 12 May 2008 08:26:12 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>Obviously, some of your messages are getting through. The one I'm replying
>to, for instance.

I'm wondering whether there's something in the content that causes it
to be filtered.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
F

Franc Zabkar

On Mon, 12 May 2008 08:26:12 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>Obviously, some of your messages are getting through. The one I'm replying
>to, for instance.

I'll do some more experimenting.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
F

Franc Zabkar

On Mon, 12 May 2008 08:26:12 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>Obviously, some of your messages are getting through. The one I'm replying
>to, for instance.

My apologies in advance if there is a

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
F

Franc Zabkar

On Mon, 12 May 2008 08:26:12 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>Obviously, some of your messages are getting through. The one I'm replying
>to, for instance.

duplicate posts.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
F

Franc Zabkar

On Mon, 12 May 2008 08:26:12 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>Obviously, some of your messages are getting through. The one I'm replying
>to, for instance.

sudden

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
F

Franc Zabkar

On Mon, 12 May 2008 08:26:12 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>Obviously, some of your messages are getting through. The one I'm replying
>to, for instance.

of

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
S

Sunny

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:a9jn249fgq8b9c40a8pec3qipisra3f3gf@4ax.com...
| On Wed, 14 May 2008 04:30:21 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
| >Tried posting your messages myself, haven't gone through yet, so
[though the
| >CERT did, which was posted afterwards] ...
|
| OK, so does that mean there is something in the content that is
| causing the message to be discarded? I'll try splitting the message
| into two parts and sending the parts separately.
|
| > Why did you try aioe.org, just as a test?
|
| I've used aioe.org in the past as a backup news server whenever I've
| had problems posting to the others.

From alt.free.newsservers :
DNS is hosed. Maybe he didn't renew in time and when he did somebody
screwed up.

telnet 194.177.96.78 119

200 aioe.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.4.4 (20080128 snapshot)
ready (posting ok).

listgroup alt.free.newsservers

*****
15152
15153
15154
..article 15154
220 15154 <4828e0da$0$11201$a8266bb1@newsreader.readnews.com> article
Path:
aioe.org!news.mb-net.net!open-news-network.org!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!news
feed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.co
m!198.186.194.249.MISMATCH!transit3.readnews.com!news-xxxfer.readnews.com
!news-out.readnews.com!postnews3.readnews.com!reader61.readnews.com.POSTE
D!not-for-mail
Message-ID:<4828e0da$0$11201$a8266bb1@newsreader.readnews.com>
From: Freebin Support <freebin@readnews.com> Subject: Re: ATTN Avi - It
seems thatFREEBIN iS sending corrupt parts again Newsgroups:
alt.free.newsservers
*****
Xref: aioe.org alt.free.newsservers:15154

*****

quit
205 .

Inbound feeds are working, no outbound prop.


Connection to host lost.

"The news server operating at 194.177.96.78 (web.aioe.org) seems to
function normally, and it is accepting local posts, but it doesn't
display any local posts - not even those posted to the local aioe
groups. It's probably also not propagating any local posts either.

> Maybe he didn't renew in time and when he did somebody
> screwed up.

I think he must be moving to another provider and the DNS records are
either not complete, or not configured.

There was no prior announcement in the local helpdesk group though.

The last post (that was accepted and can still be viewed) happened on
Sunday, May 11 2008 23:25:01 GMT in aioe.news.helpdesk.


|
| > Did you attempt to use some other server/service, rather than
| >internode.on.net [which came through]?
| >
| >--
| >MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|
| I've having problems with all three news servers (Internode, MS,
| aioe).
|
| - Franc Zabkar
| --
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
F

Franc Zabkar

On Wed, 14 May 2008 04:30:21 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Tried posting your messages myself, haven't gone through yet, so [though the
>CERT did, which was posted afterwards] ...

I tried a binary search on my failed reply to Gary, ie split my post
in half and posted the two halves as separate replies. I discovered
that any reply containing the word "F L O O D" doesn't appear in my
news feed.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
M

MEB

Gees,, go figure. Sounds like my incident of 27 posts to get one through,
with a standard, common word [for the Windows security environment anyway]
blocked... [since unblocked]


"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:2iln245suluncp5pq741e46gjgbm56cb9t@4ax.com...
| On Wed, 14 May 2008 04:30:21 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
| >Tried posting your messages myself, haven't gone through yet, so [though
the
| >CERT did, which was posted afterwards] ...
|
| I tried a binary search on my failed reply to Gary, ie split my post
| in half and posted the two halves as separate replies. I discovered
| that any reply containing the word "F L O O D" doesn't appear in my
| news feed.
|
| - Franc Zabkar
| --
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
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