Duplicated Posts Showing in OE

P

PCR

Wait a minute! A reset & compact didn't cure it-- I STILL have
duplicates! However, now I am noticing they aren't precisely duplicated.
The first seems always to have this note at the bottom...

Posted via http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway

So, I guess whoever uses that forum gets to have his post appear here
TWICE! Or are they, themselves, posting it twice-- once to there & once
to here -- & causing me & P.A. Bear to see double!!? MEB! What about
you...?...

From: MEB <Guest.399ho6@nntp.nospam.local>
Subject: Login issues Live.com
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 03:14:18 -0500
Message-ID: <Guest.399ho6@nntp.nospam.local>
Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
X-Originating-IP: meb@not here@ho
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
72.36.151.58
Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
Lines: 1
Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840176
X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

From: "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
Subject: Login issues Live.com
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 04:14:18 -0400
Lines: 8
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080509-0, 05/09/2008), Outbound message
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
Message-ID: <O6ITaXnsIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
NNTP-Posting-Host: ACA6986D.ipt.aol.com 172.166.152.109
Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840024
X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems the
| first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE. In some
| case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination is to
reset
| the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
|
| The posts are identical, but their Properties are different. Here is
an
| example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected directly
| to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the dates seem to
| indicate different time zones?
|
| From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
| Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
| Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
| User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
| X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
| X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
| 72.36.151.58
| Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
| Lines: 1
| Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
| X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
| X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
|
| From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
| Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
| Organization: http://groups.google.com
| Lines: 15
| Message-ID:
| <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
| NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
| Mime-Version: 1.0
| Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
| Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr 2008
| 08:49:51 GMT)
| X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
| Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
| posting-host=212.179.33.130
| posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
| User-Agent: G2/1.0
| X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT 5.1
| SV1 .NET
| CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322 InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
| Bytes: 1606
| Path:
|
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
| -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.go
og
| le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
| Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
| X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
| X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net
|
|
 
P

PCR

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%23RfrgfJtIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| You're acting as if I really care what happened to the server, <bg>. I
| don't. It puked, it didn't provide any new messages that I would care
about,
| end of story.

I'm putting it on your head & Bear's head & even Brian A.'s head as
MVP's to find an actual MS personage & hold his feet to the fire for a
cure! Did someone spill bear on the server?

| But... Your two samples were sent using different email addresses and
are
| posted at the same time but off by four hours. My bet is that whoever
made
| this one: Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local, was setting up an nntp
server and
| screwed up, resulting in his server reposting the messages, using the
| different email address and wrong time stamp.

I'm beginning to discover each duplicated post has one difference-- the
1st one has a note on the bottom stating...

Posted via http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway

What could it mean? As far as the time, actually OE shows them in its
display to be the same exact time-- it only looks different in the
Properties.

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:O6NySNJtIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > news:%23M$tV7ItIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | Ctrl-A in Outlook Express, marks All messages as Read.
| >
| > Alright. I did the reset & then the equivalent of that. Oh, no! It's
| > much the same as before. What's up??? It took about an hour for me
to
| > read in 3030 posts! Here's another sample...!...
| >
| > From: dave xnet <Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local>
| > Subject: Folder double-click or Open doesn't do anything
| > Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 19:54:46 -0500
| > Message-ID: <Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local>
| > Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
| > User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
| > X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
| > X-Originating-IP: davexnet02DEL@E
| > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| > NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
| > 72.36.151.58
| > Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
| > Lines: 1
| > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840170
| > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message
| > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| >
| > From: dave xnet <davexnet02DEL@ETEyahoo.com>
| > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| > Subject: Folder double-click or Open doesn't do anything
| > Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 17:54:46 -0700
| > Message-ID: <p3v12417boi890viht782bejbmhki7t1j9@4ax.com>
| > X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118
| > MIME-Version: 1.0
| > Content-Type: text/plain charset=us-ascii
| > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| > Lines: 12
| > Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com
| > NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.169.242.207
| > X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com
| > Path:
| >
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS01.phx.gbl!newsf
| >
eed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giga
| >
news.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69
| >
..16.185.51.MISMATCH!tmp-post01.iad!news.highwinds-media.com!roadrunner.c
| > om!not-for-mail
| > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839942
| > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message
| > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| >
| >
| > | --
| > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | www.grystmill.com
| > |
| > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > | news:eIhtblItIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | > Uhuh-- hundreds of unread duplicates! But, in most/many cases,
it
| > seemed
| > | > to be just the initial post of certain threads that was
duplicated.
| > If
| > | > it was due to drunkenness & puking, can it be they had put Brian
A.
| > | > temporarily in charge? What did Ctrl-A do? Do you mean, instead,
you
| > | > highlighted the duplicates & pressed Ctrl-D? I lean toward a
reset,
| > | > which I see did cure Zabcar.
| > | >
| > | > Anyhow, I see it wasn't just me &/or P.A. Bear that was
affected. I
| > see
| > | > it doesn't matter what news reader is used, by Stapley's &
Zabcar's
| > | > words. The phenomenon hasn't affected my other (non-MS) NG,
either--
| > so,
| > | > it's something screwy at the MS Server going on, though I'm not
| > | > convinced it's the same shenanigan that MEB recently encountered
| > with
| > | > his HotMail.
| > | >
| > | > I guess I'll reset the NG. OK, thanks.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | > Should things get worse after this,
| > | > PCR
| > | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | > news:ebEcUx%23sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > | > | Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation:
| > Sometime
| > | > this
| > | > | morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden
there
| > | > were
| > | > | hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure
they
| > | > weren't
| > | > | "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
| > | > |
| > | > | --
| > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > | www.grystmill.com
| > | > |
| > | > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > | > | news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It
seems
| > the
| > | > | > first post in many threads are showing the initial post
TWICE.
| > In
| > | > some
| > | > | > case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination
is
| > to
| > | > reset
| > | > | > the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
| > | > | >
| > | > | > The posts are identical, but their Properties are different.
| > Here is
| > | > an
| > | > | > example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am
connected
| > | > directly
| > | > | > to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the
dates
| > seem
| > | > to
| > | > | > indicate different time zones?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| > | > | > Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
| > | > | > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
| > | > | > Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| > | > | > Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
| > | > | > User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
| > | > | > X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
| > | > | > X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
| > | > | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| > | > | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
| > | > | > 72.36.151.58
| > | > | > Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
| > | > | > Lines: 1
| > | > | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| > | > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
| > | > | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound
message
| > | > | > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| > | > | >
| > | > | > From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
| > | > | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| > | > | > Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
| > | > | > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
| > | > | > Organization: http://groups.google.com
| > | > | > Lines: 15
| > | > | > Message-ID:
| > | > | >
| > <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
| > | > | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
| > | > | > Mime-Version: 1.0
| > | > | > Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
| > | > | > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| > | > | > X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29
Apr
| > 2008
| > | > | > 08:49:51 GMT)
| > | > | > X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| > | > | > NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
| > | > | > Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| > | > | > Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
| > | > | > posting-host=212.179.33.130
| > | > | > posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
| > | > | > User-Agent: G2/1.0
| > | > | > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows
NT
| > 5.1
| > | > | > SV1 .NET
| > | > | > CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322
| > InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
| > | > | > Bytes: 1606
| > | > | > Path:
| > | > | >
| > | >
| >
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
| > | > |
| > |
|
>>> -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.
g
| > o
| > | > og
| > | > | > le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
| > | > | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| > | > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
| > | > | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound
message
| > | > | > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | > | > Should things get worse after this,
| > | > | > PCR
| > | > | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| >
| >
|
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

You have more than enough information to deduce whatever could possibly be
deduced from this end. Someone was doing something at
"http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway" and screwed up.
Microsoft had nothing to do with it except if they want to clean it up,
which I suspect they won't.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:uyDZdxJtIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:%23RfrgfJtIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | You're acting as if I really care what happened to the server, <bg>. I
> | don't. It puked, it didn't provide any new messages that I would care
> about,
> | end of story.
>
> I'm putting it on your head & Bear's head & even Brian A.'s head as
> MVP's to find an actual MS personage & hold his feet to the fire for a
> cure! Did someone spill bear on the server?
>
> | But... Your two samples were sent using different email addresses and
> are
> | posted at the same time but off by four hours. My bet is that whoever
> made
> | this one: Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local, was setting up an nntp
> server and
> | screwed up, resulting in his server reposting the messages, using the
> | different email address and wrong time stamp.
>
> I'm beginning to discover each duplicated post has one difference-- the
> 1st one has a note on the bottom stating...
>
> Posted via http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway
>
> What could it mean? As far as the time, actually OE shows them in its
> display to be the same exact time-- it only looks different in the
> Properties.
>
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:O6NySNJtIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > news:%23M$tV7ItIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | > | Ctrl-A in Outlook Express, marks All messages as Read.
> | >
> | > Alright. I did the reset & then the equivalent of that. Oh, no! It's
> | > much the same as before. What's up??? It took about an hour for me
> to
> | > read in 3030 posts! Here's another sample...!...
> | >
> | > From: dave xnet <Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local>
> | > Subject: Folder double-click or Open doesn't do anything
> | > Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 19:54:46 -0500
> | > Message-ID: <Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local>
> | > Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
> | > User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
> | > X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
> | > X-Originating-IP: davexnet02DEL@E
> | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
> | > 72.36.151.58
> | > Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> | > Lines: 1
> | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840170
> | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message
> | > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> | >
> | > From: dave xnet <davexnet02DEL@ETEyahoo.com>
> | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> | > Subject: Folder double-click or Open doesn't do anything
> | > Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 17:54:46 -0700
> | > Message-ID: <p3v12417boi890viht782bejbmhki7t1j9@4ax.com>
> | > X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118
> | > MIME-Version: 1.0
> | > Content-Type: text/plain charset=us-ascii
> | > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> | > Lines: 12
> | > Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com
> | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.169.242.207
> | > X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com
> | > Path:
> | >
> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS01.phx.gbl!newsf
> | >
> eed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giga
> | >
> news.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69
> | >
> .16.185.51.MISMATCH!tmp-post01.iad!news.highwinds-media.com!roadrunner.c
> | > om!not-for-mail
> | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839942
> | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message
> | > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> | >
> | >
> | > | --
> | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > |
> | > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | > | news:eIhtblItIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | > | > Uhuh-- hundreds of unread duplicates! But, in most/many cases,
> it
> | > seemed
> | > | > to be just the initial post of certain threads that was
> duplicated.
> | > If
> | > | > it was due to drunkenness & puking, can it be they had put Brian
> A.
> | > | > temporarily in charge? What did Ctrl-A do? Do you mean, instead,
> you
> | > | > highlighted the duplicates & pressed Ctrl-D? I lean toward a
> reset,
> | > | > which I see did cure Zabcar.
> | > | >
> | > | > Anyhow, I see it wasn't just me &/or P.A. Bear that was
> affected. I
> | > see
> | > | > it doesn't matter what news reader is used, by Stapley's &
> Zabcar's
> | > | > words. The phenomenon hasn't affected my other (non-MS) NG,
> either--
> | > so,
> | > | > it's something screwy at the MS Server going on, though I'm not
> | > | > convinced it's the same shenanigan that MEB recently encountered
> | > with
> | > | > his HotMail.
> | > | >
> | > | > I guess I'll reset the NG. OK, thanks.
> | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > | > Should things get worse after this,
> | > | > PCR
> | > | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > | > news:ebEcUx%23sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > | > | Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation:
> | > Sometime
> | > | > this
> | > | > | morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden
> there
> | > | > were
> | > | > | hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure
> they
> | > | > weren't
> | > | > | "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | --
> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > | > |
> | > | > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | > | > | news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > | > | > Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It
> seems
> | > the
> | > | > | > first post in many threads are showing the initial post
> TWICE.
> | > In
> | > | > some
> | > | > | > case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination
> is
> | > to
> | > | > reset
> | > | > | > the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > The posts are identical, but their Properties are different.
> | > Here is
> | > | > an
> | > | > | > example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am
> connected
> | > | > directly
> | > | > | > to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the
> dates
> | > seem
> | > | > to
> | > | > | > indicate different time zones?
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
> | > | > | > Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
> | > | > | > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
> | > | > | > Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
> | > | > | > Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
> | > | > | > User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
> | > | > | > X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
> | > | > | > X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
> | > | > | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> | > | > | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
> | > | > | > 72.36.151.58
> | > | > | > Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> | > | > | > Lines: 1
> | > | > | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> | > | > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
> | > | > | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound
> message
> | > | > | > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
> | > | > | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> | > | > | > Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
> | > | > | > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
> | > | > | > Organization: http://groups.google.com
> | > | > | > Lines: 15
> | > | > | > Message-ID:
> | > | > | >
> | > <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
> | > | > | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
> | > | > | > Mime-Version: 1.0
> | > | > | > Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
> | > | > | > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> | > | > | > X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29
> Apr
> | > 2008
> | > | > | > 08:49:51 GMT)
> | > | > | > X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> | > | > | > NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
> | > | > | > Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> | > | > | > Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
> | > | > | > posting-host=212.179.33.130
> | > | > | > posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
> | > | > | > User-Agent: G2/1.0
> | > | > | > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows
> NT
> | > 5.1
> | > | > | > SV1 .NET
> | > | > | > CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322
> | > InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> | > | > | > Bytes: 1606
> | > | > | > Path:
> | > | > | >
> | > | >
> | >
> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
> | > | > |
> | > |
> |
>>>> -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.
> g
> | > o
> | > | > og
> | > | > | > le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> | > | > | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> | > | > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
> | > | > | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound
> message
> | > | > | > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > | > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > | > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > | > | > Should things get worse after this,
> | > | > | > PCR
> | > | > | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | >
> | > | > |
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
>
>
 
M

MEB

Hmm, interesting, you may have found the potential answer.
Not *this* server reset, but another which caused this by reposting the
originals back to the group... didn't notice that,,

FIND provided these results:

199 messages - from 04-12-08 to 05-12-08 with the Posted via
http://computerhelpforums.net

Gee, seems an un-reputable [and likely illegal] way to make a server
*appear* to be the news posting portal of choice by most of the posters
here. Of course this will be reflected on ALL mirrors, so either this was an
honest mistake, or this group and Microsoft just got hacked.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:eC2njsJtIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| Wait a minute! A reset & compact didn't cure it-- I STILL have
| duplicates! However, now I am noticing they aren't precisely duplicated.
| The first seems always to have this note at the bottom...
|
| Posted via http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway
|
| So, I guess whoever uses that forum gets to have his post appear here
| TWICE! Or are they, themselves, posting it twice-- once to there & once
| to here -- & causing me & P.A. Bear to see double!!? MEB! What about
| you...?...
|
| From: MEB <Guest.399ho6@nntp.nospam.local>
| Subject: Login issues Live.com
| Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 03:14:18 -0500
| Message-ID: <Guest.399ho6@nntp.nospam.local>
| Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
| User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
| X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
| X-Originating-IP: meb@not here@ho
| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
| 72.36.151.58
| Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
| Lines: 1
| Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840176
| X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message
| X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
|
| From: "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| Subject: Login issues Live.com
| Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 04:14:18 -0400
| Lines: 8
| X-Priority: 3
| X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
| X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
| X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
| X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080509-0, 05/09/2008), Outbound message
| X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| Message-ID: <O6ITaXnsIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| NNTP-Posting-Host: ACA6986D.ipt.aol.com 172.166.152.109
| Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
| Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840024
| X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message
| X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| | Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems the
| | first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE. In some
| | case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination is to
| reset
| | the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
| |
| | The posts are identical, but their Properties are different. Here is
| an
| | example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected directly
| | to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the dates seem to
| | indicate different time zones?
| |
| | From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| | Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
| | Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
| | Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| | Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
| | User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
| | X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
| | X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
| | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| | NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
| | 72.36.151.58
| | Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
| | Lines: 1
| | Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
| | X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
| | X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| |
| | From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
| | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| | Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
| | Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
| | Organization: http://groups.google.com
| | Lines: 15
| | Message-ID:
| | <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
| | NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
| | Mime-Version: 1.0
| | Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
| | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| | X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr 2008
| | 08:49:51 GMT)
| | X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| | NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
| | Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| | Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
| | posting-host=212.179.33.130
| | posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
| | User-Agent: G2/1.0
| | X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT 5.1
| | SV1 .NET
| | CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322 InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
| | Bytes: 1606
| | Path:
| |
| TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
| | -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.go
| og
| | le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
| | Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
| | X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
| | X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| |
| |
| | --
| | Thanks or Good Luck,
| | There may be humor in this post, and,
| | Naturally, you will not sue,
| | Should things get worse after this,
| | PCR
| | pcrrcp@netzero.net
| |
| |
|
|
 
P

PCR

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| You have more than enough information to deduce whatever could
| possibly be deduced from this end. Someone was doing something at
| "http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway" and screwed
| up. Microsoft had nothing to do with it except if they want to clean
| it up, which I suspect they won't.

Well, I don't see that any new ones came in today. Maybe they've fixed
it. I guess computerhelpforums was sending old posts to the MS server a
second time! The first is dated 4/12/08 12:22 AM by Bill of Co., & the
last is 5/10/08 4:14 AM by MEB. But those both came in yesterday to join
the duplicate already here! I'll hold back on any curse or spell on you
three/four MVPs until I see a new one. I think I owe you that much!

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:uyDZdxJtIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|> news:%23RfrgfJtIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|> | You're acting as if I really care what happened to the server,
|> | <bg>. I don't. It puked, it didn't provide any new messages that I
|> | would care about, end of story.
|>
|> I'm putting it on your head & Bear's head & even Brian A.'s head as
|> MVP's to find an actual MS personage & hold his feet to the fire for
|> a cure! Did someone spill bear on the server?
|>
|> | But... Your two samples were sent using different email addresses
|> | and are posted at the same time but off by four hours. My bet is
|> | that whoever made this one: Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local, was
|> | setting up an nntp server and screwed up, resulting in his server
|> | reposting the messages, using the different email address and
|> | wrong time stamp.
|>
|> I'm beginning to discover each duplicated post has one difference--
|> the 1st one has a note on the bottom stating...
|>
|> Posted via http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway
|>
|> What could it mean? As far as the time, actually OE shows them in its
|> display to be the same exact time-- it only looks different in the
|> Properties.
|>
|> | --
|> | Gary S. Terhune
|> | MS-MVP Shell/User
|> | www.grystmill.com
|> |
|> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|> | news:O6NySNJtIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|> | > news:%23M$tV7ItIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|> | > | Ctrl-A in Outlook Express, marks All messages as Read.
|> | >
|> | > Alright. I did the reset & then the equivalent of that. Oh, no!
|> | > It's much the same as before. What's up??? It took about an hour
|> | > for me to read in 3030 posts! Here's another sample...!...
|> | >
|> | > From: dave xnet <Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local>
|> | > Subject: Folder double-click or Open doesn't do anything
|> | > Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 19:54:46 -0500
|> | > Message-ID: <Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local>
|> | > Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
|> | > User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
|> | > X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
|> | > X-Originating-IP: davexnet02DEL@E
|> | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
|> | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
|> | > 72.36.151.58
|> | > Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
|> | > Lines: 1
|> | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
|> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840170
|> | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message
|> | > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
|> | >
|> | > From: dave xnet <davexnet02DEL@ETEyahoo.com>
|> | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
|> | > Subject: Folder double-click or Open doesn't do anything
|> | > Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 17:54:46 -0700
|> | > Message-ID: <p3v12417boi890viht782bejbmhki7t1j9@4ax.com>
|> | > X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118
|> | > MIME-Version: 1.0
|> | > Content-Type: text/plain charset=us-ascii
|> | > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
|> | > Lines: 12
|> | > Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com
|> | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.169.242.207
|> | > X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com
|> | > Path:
|> | >
|>
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS01.phx.gbl!newsf
|> | >
|>
eed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giga
|> | >
|>
news.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69
|> | >
|>
..16.185.51.MISMATCH!tmp-post01.iad!news.highwinds-media.com!roadrunner.c
|> | > om!not-for-mail
|> | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
|> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839942
|> | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message
|> | > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
|> | >
|> | >
|> | > | --
|> | > | Gary S. Terhune
|> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
|> | > | www.grystmill.com
|> | > |
|> | > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|> | > | news:eIhtblItIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|> | > | > Uhuh-- hundreds of unread duplicates! But, in most/many
|> | > | > cases, it seemed to be just the initial post of certain
|> | > | > threads that was duplicated. If it was due to drunkenness &
|> | > | > puking, can it be they had put Brian A. temporarily in
|> | > | > charge? What did Ctrl-A do? Do you mean, instead, you
|> | > | > highlighted the duplicates & pressed Ctrl-D? I lean toward a
|> | > | > reset, which I see did cure Zabcar.
|> | > | >
|> | > | > Anyhow, I see it wasn't just me &/or P.A. Bear that was
|> | > | > affected. I see it doesn't matter what news reader is used,
|> | > | > by Stapley's & Zabcar's words. The phenomenon hasn't
|> | > | > affected my other (non-MS) NG, either-- so, it's something
|> | > | > screwy at the MS Server going on, though I'm not convinced
|> | > | > it's the same shenanigan that MEB recently encountered with
|> | > | > his HotMail.
|> | > | >
|> | > | > I guess I'll reset the NG. OK, thanks.
|> | > | >
|> | > | > --
|> | > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
|> | > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
|> | > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
|> | > | > Should things get worse after this,
|> | > | > PCR
|> | > | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
|> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|> | > | > news:ebEcUx%23sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|> | > | > | Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical
|> | > | > | explanation: Sometime this morning, the server puked.
|> | > | > | During a refresh, all of a sudden there were hundreds of
|> | > | > | unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they
|> | > | > | weren't "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
|> | > | > |
|> | > | > | --
|> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
|> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
|> | > | > | www.grystmill.com
|> | > | > |
|> | > | > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|> | > | > | news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|> | > | > | > Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!?
|> | > | > | > It seems the first post in many threads are showing the
|> | > | > | > initial post
|> TWICE.
|> | > In
|> | > | > some
|> | > | > | > case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My
|> | > | > | > inclination
|> is
|> | > to
|> | > | > reset
|> | > | > | > the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
|> | > | > | >
|> | > | > | > The posts are identical, but their Properties are
|> | > | > | > different. Here is an example. Can the posts be coming
|> | > | > | > into this NG (I am connected directly to the MS Server)
|> | > | > | > from two different sources? Why do the
|> dates
|> | > seem
|> | > | > to
|> | > | > | > indicate different time zones?
|> | > | > | >
|> | > | > | > From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
|> | > | > | > Subject: wise install new product version on an old
|> | > | > | > version Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
|> | > | > | > Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
|> | > | > | > Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
|> | > | > | > User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
|> | > | > | > X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
|> | > | > | > X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
|> | > | > | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
|> | > | > | > NNTP-Posting-Host:
|> | > | > | > 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
|> | > | > | > 72.36.151.58
|> | > | > | > Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
|> | > | > | > Lines: 1
|> | > | > | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
|> | > | > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
|> | > | > | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound
|> | > | > | > message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
|> | > | > | >
|> | > | > | > From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
|> | > | > | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
|> | > | > | > Subject: wise install new product version on an old
|> | > | > | > version Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
|> | > | > | > Organization: http://groups.google.com
|> | > | > | > Lines: 15
|> | > | > | > Message-ID:
|> | > | > | >
|> | >
<3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
|> | > | > | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
|> | > | > | > Mime-Version: 1.0
|> | > | > | > Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
|> | > | > | > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
|> | > | > | > X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1
|> | > | > | > (29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 GMT)
|> | > | > | > X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
|> | > | > | > NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
|> | > | > | > Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
|> | > | > | > Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
|> | > | > | > posting-host=212.179.33.130
|> | > | > | > posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
|> | > | > | > User-Agent: G2/1.0
|> | > | > | > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0
|> | > | > | > Windows NT 5.1 SV1 .NET
|> | > | > | > CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322
|> | > InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
|> | > | > | > Bytes: 1606
|> | > | > | > Path:
|> | > | > | >
|> | > | >
|> | >
|>
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
|> | > | > |
|> | > |
|> |
|>>>> -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnew
s.
|> g
|> | > o
|> | > | > og
|> | > | > | > le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
|> | > | > | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
|> | > | > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
|> | > | > | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound
|> | > | > | > message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
|> | > | > | >
|> | > | > | >
|> | > | > | > --
|> | > | > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
|> | > | > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
|> | > | > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
|> | > | > | > Should things get worse after this,
|> | > | > | > PCR
|> | > | > | > pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

At least!

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:ONC94zVtIHA.3604@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> | You have more than enough information to deduce whatever could
> | possibly be deduced from this end. Someone was doing something at
> | "http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway" and screwed
> | up. Microsoft had nothing to do with it except if they want to clean
> | it up, which I suspect they won't.
>
> Well, I don't see that any new ones came in today. Maybe they've fixed
> it. I guess computerhelpforums was sending old posts to the MS server a
> second time! The first is dated 4/12/08 12:22 AM by Bill of Co., & the
> last is 5/10/08 4:14 AM by MEB. But those both came in yesterday to join
> the duplicate already here! I'll hold back on any curse or spell on you
> three/four MVPs until I see a new one. I think I owe you that much!
>
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:uyDZdxJtIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> |> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> |> news:%23RfrgfJtIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> |> | You're acting as if I really care what happened to the server,
> |> | <bg>. I don't. It puked, it didn't provide any new messages that I
> |> | would care about, end of story.
> |>
> |> I'm putting it on your head & Bear's head & even Brian A.'s head as
> |> MVP's to find an actual MS personage & hold his feet to the fire for
> |> a cure! Did someone spill bear on the server?
> |>
> |> | But... Your two samples were sent using different email addresses
> |> | and are posted at the same time but off by four hours. My bet is
> |> | that whoever made this one: Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local, was
> |> | setting up an nntp server and screwed up, resulting in his server
> |> | reposting the messages, using the different email address and
> |> | wrong time stamp.
> |>
> |> I'm beginning to discover each duplicated post has one difference--
> |> the 1st one has a note on the bottom stating...
> |>
> |> Posted via http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway
> |>
> |> What could it mean? As far as the time, actually OE shows them in its
> |> display to be the same exact time-- it only looks different in the
> |> Properties.
> |>
> |> | --
> |> | Gary S. Terhune
> |> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> |> | www.grystmill.com
> |> |
> |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> |> | news:O6NySNJtIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> |> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> |> | > news:%23M$tV7ItIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> |> | > | Ctrl-A in Outlook Express, marks All messages as Read.
> |> | >
> |> | > Alright. I did the reset & then the equivalent of that. Oh, no!
> |> | > It's much the same as before. What's up??? It took about an hour
> |> | > for me to read in 3030 posts! Here's another sample...!...
> |> | >
> |> | > From: dave xnet <Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local>
> |> | > Subject: Folder double-click or Open doesn't do anything
> |> | > Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 19:54:46 -0500
> |> | > Message-ID: <Guest.399ho0@nntp.nospam.local>
> |> | > Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
> |> | > User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
> |> | > X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
> |> | > X-Originating-IP: davexnet02DEL@E
> |> | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> |> | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
> |> | > 72.36.151.58
> |> | > Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> |> | > Lines: 1
> |> | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> |> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840170
> |> | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message
> |> | > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> |> | >
> |> | > From: dave xnet <davexnet02DEL@ETEyahoo.com>
> |> | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> |> | > Subject: Folder double-click or Open doesn't do anything
> |> | > Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 17:54:46 -0700
> |> | > Message-ID: <p3v12417boi890viht782bejbmhki7t1j9@4ax.com>
> |> | > X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118
> |> | > MIME-Version: 1.0
> |> | > Content-Type: text/plain charset=us-ascii
> |> | > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> |> | > Lines: 12
> |> | > Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com
> |> | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.169.242.207
> |> | > X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com
> |> | > Path:
> |> | >
> |>
> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS01.phx.gbl!newsf
> |> | >
> |>
> eed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giga
> |> | >
> |>
> news.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69
> |> | >
> |>
> .16.185.51.MISMATCH!tmp-post01.iad!news.highwinds-media.com!roadrunner.c
> |> | > om!not-for-mail
> |> | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> |> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839942
> |> | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message
> |> | > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> |> | >
> |> | >
> |> | > | --
> |> | > | Gary S. Terhune
> |> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> |> | > | www.grystmill.com
> |> | > |
> |> | > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> |> | > | news:eIhtblItIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> |> | > | > Uhuh-- hundreds of unread duplicates! But, in most/many
> |> | > | > cases, it seemed to be just the initial post of certain
> |> | > | > threads that was duplicated. If it was due to drunkenness &
> |> | > | > puking, can it be they had put Brian A. temporarily in
> |> | > | > charge? What did Ctrl-A do? Do you mean, instead, you
> |> | > | > highlighted the duplicates & pressed Ctrl-D? I lean toward a
> |> | > | > reset, which I see did cure Zabcar.
> |> | > | >
> |> | > | > Anyhow, I see it wasn't just me &/or P.A. Bear that was
> |> | > | > affected. I see it doesn't matter what news reader is used,
> |> | > | > by Stapley's & Zabcar's words. The phenomenon hasn't
> |> | > | > affected my other (non-MS) NG, either-- so, it's something
> |> | > | > screwy at the MS Server going on, though I'm not convinced
> |> | > | > it's the same shenanigan that MEB recently encountered with
> |> | > | > his HotMail.
> |> | > | >
> |> | > | > I guess I'll reset the NG. OK, thanks.
> |> | > | >
> |> | > | > --
> |> | > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> | > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> | > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> | > | > Should things get worse after this,
> |> | > | > PCR
> |> | > | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> |> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> |> | > | > news:ebEcUx%23sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> |> | > | > | Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical
> |> | > | > | explanation: Sometime this morning, the server puked.
> |> | > | > | During a refresh, all of a sudden there were hundreds of
> |> | > | > | unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they
> |> | > | > | weren't "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
> |> | > | > |
> |> | > | > | --
> |> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
> |> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> |> | > | > | www.grystmill.com
> |> | > | > |
> |> | > | > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> |> | > | > | news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> |> | > | > | > Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!?
> |> | > | > | > It seems the first post in many threads are showing the
> |> | > | > | > initial post
> |> TWICE.
> |> | > In
> |> | > | > some
> |> | > | > | > case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My
> |> | > | > | > inclination
> |> is
> |> | > to
> |> | > | > reset
> |> | > | > | > the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
> |> | > | > | >
> |> | > | > | > The posts are identical, but their Properties are
> |> | > | > | > different. Here is an example. Can the posts be coming
> |> | > | > | > into this NG (I am connected directly to the MS Server)
> |> | > | > | > from two different sources? Why do the
> |> dates
> |> | > seem
> |> | > | > to
> |> | > | > | > indicate different time zones?
> |> | > | > | >
> |> | > | > | > From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
> |> | > | > | > Subject: wise install new product version on an old
> |> | > | > | > version Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
> |> | > | > | > Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
> |> | > | > | > Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
> |> | > | > | > User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
> |> | > | > | > X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
> |> | > | > | > X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
> |> | > | > | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> |> | > | > | > NNTP-Posting-Host:
> |> | > | > | > 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
> |> | > | > | > 72.36.151.58
> |> | > | > | > Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> |> | > | > | > Lines: 1
> |> | > | > | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> |> | > | > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
> |> | > | > | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound
> |> | > | > | > message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> |> | > | > | >
> |> | > | > | > From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
> |> | > | > | > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> |> | > | > | > Subject: wise install new product version on an old
> |> | > | > | > version Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
> |> | > | > | > Organization: http://groups.google.com
> |> | > | > | > Lines: 15
> |> | > | > | > Message-ID:
> |> | > | > | >
> |> | >
> <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
> |> | > | > | > NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
> |> | > | > | > Mime-Version: 1.0
> |> | > | > | > Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
> |> | > | > | > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> |> | > | > | > X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1
> |> | > | > | > (29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 GMT)
> |> | > | > | > X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> |> | > | > | > NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
> |> | > | > | > Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> |> | > | > | > Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
> |> | > | > | > posting-host=212.179.33.130
> |> | > | > | > posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
> |> | > | > | > User-Agent: G2/1.0
> |> | > | > | > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0
> |> | > | > | > Windows NT 5.1 SV1 .NET
> |> | > | > | > CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322
> |> | > InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> |> | > | > | > Bytes: 1606
> |> | > | > | > Path:
> |> | > | > | >
> |> | > | >
> |> | >
> |>
> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
> |> | > | > |
> |> | > |
> |> |
> |>>>> -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnew
> s.
> |> g
> |> | > o
> |> | > | > og
> |> | > | > | > le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> |> | > | > | > Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> |> | > | > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
> |> | > | > | > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound
> |> | > | > | > message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> |> | > | > | >
> |> | > | > | >
> |> | > | > | > --
> |> | > | > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> | > | > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> | > | > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> | > | > | > Should things get worse after this,
> |> | > | > | > PCR
> |> | > | > | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
 
P

PCR

MEB wrote:
| Hmm, interesting, you may have found the potential answer.
| Not *this* server reset, but another which caused this by reposting
| the originals back to the group... didn't notice that,,

Yep. Looks like these are old posts coming in a 2nd time.

| FIND provided these results:
|
| 199 messages - from 04-12-08 to 05-12-08 with the Posted via
| http://computerhelpforums.net

I see 202 that way, but it's also showing replies to posts that contain
that. Odd, I thought there were 100 more than that yesterday. I guess
the reset I did adjusted it somewhat.

| Gee, seems an un-reputable [and likely illegal] way to make a server
| *appear* to be the news posting portal of choice by most of the
| posters here. Of course this will be reflected on ALL mirrors, so
| either this was an honest mistake, or this group and Microsoft just
| got hacked.

I don't mind them appending the advertisement-- if only they'll send it
just once! I notice this current post of yours does not contain it. So--
you sent this one here directly? Or can I expect the other to come in a
week or two?

| --
| MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| --
| _________
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:eC2njsJtIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|| Wait a minute! A reset & compact didn't cure it-- I STILL have
|| duplicates! However, now I am noticing they aren't precisely
|| duplicated. The first seems always to have this note at the bottom...
||
|| Posted via http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway
||
|| So, I guess whoever uses that forum gets to have his post appear here
|| TWICE! Or are they, themselves, posting it twice-- once to there &
|| once to here -- & causing me & P.A. Bear to see double!!? MEB! What
|| about you...?...
||
|| From: MEB <Guest.399ho6@nntp.nospam.local>
|| Subject: Login issues Live.com
|| Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 03:14:18 -0500
|| Message-ID: <Guest.399ho6@nntp.nospam.local>
|| Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
|| User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
|| X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
|| X-Originating-IP: meb@not here@ho
|| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
|| NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
|| 72.36.151.58
|| Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
|| Lines: 1
|| Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
|| microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840176 X-Antivirus: avast!
|| (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
||
|| From: "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
|| Subject: Login issues Live.com
|| Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 04:14:18 -0400
|| Lines: 8
|| X-Priority: 3
|| X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
|| X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
|| X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
|| X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080509-0, 05/09/2008), Outbound message
|| X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
|| Message-ID: <O6ITaXnsIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
|| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
|| NNTP-Posting-Host: ACA6986D.ipt.aol.com 172.166.152.109
|| Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
|| Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
|| microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840024 X-Antivirus: avast!
|| (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
||
||
|| --
|| Thanks or Good Luck,
|| There may be humor in this post, and,
|| Naturally, you will not sue,
|| Should things get worse after this,
|| PCR
|| pcrrcp@netzero.net
|| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|| news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|| | Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems the
|| | first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE. In
|| | some case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination
|| | is to
|| reset
|| | the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
|| |
|| | The posts are identical, but their Properties are different. Here
|| | is
|| an
|| | example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected
|| | directly to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the
|| | dates seem to indicate different time zones?
|| |
|| | From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
|| | Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
|| | Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
|| | Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
|| | Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
|| | User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
|| | X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
|| | X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
|| | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
|| | NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
|| | 72.36.151.58
|| | Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
|| | Lines: 1
|| | Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
|| microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
|| | X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
|| | X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
|| |
|| | From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
|| | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
|| | Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
|| | Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
|| | Organization: http://groups.google.com
|| | Lines: 15
|| | Message-ID:
|| | <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
|| | NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
|| | Mime-Version: 1.0
|| | Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
|| | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
|| | X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr 2008
|| | 08:49:51 GMT)
|| | X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
|| | NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
|| | Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
|| | Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
|| | posting-host=212.179.33.130
|| | posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
|| | User-Agent: G2/1.0
|| | X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT
|| | 5.1 SV1 .NET
|| | CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322 InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
|| | Bytes: 1606
|| | Path:
|| |
||
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
||
| -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.go
|| | og le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
|| | Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
|| microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
|| | X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
|| | X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
|| |
|| |
|| | --
|| | Thanks or Good Luck,
|| | There may be humor in this post, and,
|| | Naturally, you will not sue,
|| | Should things get worse after this,
|| | PCR
|| | pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
M

MEB

What has apparently escaped many is:

This would be considered as a hack. Be it for advertising, increasing net
presence [and yes spiders search for this type of info as well] or other.
It would be interesting to see if this was done in the other forums as
well. That would potential increase the NET presence for this service by
thousands of users *supposedly* using the service. Think potential
revenue/advertising.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________


"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:ej9Lg3VtIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| MEB wrote:
| | Hmm, interesting, you may have found the potential answer.
| | Not *this* server reset, but another which caused this by reposting
| | the originals back to the group... didn't notice that,,
|
| Yep. Looks like these are old posts coming in a 2nd time.
|
| | FIND provided these results:
| |
| | 199 messages - from 04-12-08 to 05-12-08 with the Posted via
| | http://computerhelpforums.net
|
| I see 202 that way, but it's also showing replies to posts that contain
| that. Odd, I thought there were 100 more than that yesterday. I guess
| the reset I did adjusted it somewhat.
|
| | Gee, seems an un-reputable [and likely illegal] way to make a server
| | *appear* to be the news posting portal of choice by most of the
| | posters here. Of course this will be reflected on ALL mirrors, so
| | either this was an honest mistake, or this group and Microsoft just
| | got hacked.
|
| I don't mind them appending the advertisement-- if only they'll send it
| just once! I notice this current post of yours does not contain it. So--
| you sent this one here directly? Or can I expect the other to come in a
| week or two?
|
| | --
| | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| | --
| | _________
| |
| | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| | news:eC2njsJtIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| || Wait a minute! A reset & compact didn't cure it-- I STILL have
| || duplicates! However, now I am noticing they aren't precisely
| || duplicated. The first seems always to have this note at the bottom...
| ||
| || Posted via http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway
| ||
| || So, I guess whoever uses that forum gets to have his post appear here
| || TWICE! Or are they, themselves, posting it twice-- once to there &
| || once to here -- & causing me & P.A. Bear to see double!!? MEB! What
| || about you...?...
| ||
| || From: MEB <Guest.399ho6@nntp.nospam.local>
| || Subject: Login issues Live.com
| || Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 03:14:18 -0500
| || Message-ID: <Guest.399ho6@nntp.nospam.local>
| || Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
| || User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
| || X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
| || X-Originating-IP: meb@not here@ho
| || Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| || NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
| || 72.36.151.58
| || Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
| || Lines: 1
| || Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840176 X-Antivirus: avast!
| || (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| ||
| || From: "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| || Subject: Login issues Live.com
| || Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 04:14:18 -0400
| || Lines: 8
| || X-Priority: 3
| || X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
| || X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
| || X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
| || X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080509-0, 05/09/2008), Outbound message
| || X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| || Message-ID: <O6ITaXnsIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
| || Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| || NNTP-Posting-Host: ACA6986D.ipt.aol.com 172.166.152.109
| || Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
| || Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840024 X-Antivirus: avast!
| || (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| ||
| ||
| || --
| || Thanks or Good Luck,
| || There may be humor in this post, and,
| || Naturally, you will not sue,
| || Should things get worse after this,
| || PCR
| || pcrrcp@netzero.net
| || "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| || news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| || | Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems the
| || | first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE. In
| || | some case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination
| || | is to
| || reset
| || | the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
| || |
| || | The posts are identical, but their Properties are different. Here
| || | is
| || an
| || | example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected
| || | directly to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the
| || | dates seem to indicate different time zones?
| || |
| || | From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| || | Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
| || | Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
| || | Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| || | Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
| || | User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
| || | X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
| || | X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
| || | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| || | NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
| || | 72.36.151.58
| || | Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
| || | Lines: 1
| || | Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
| || | X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
| || | X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| || |
| || | From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
| || | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| || | Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
| || | Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
| || | Organization: http://groups.google.com
| || | Lines: 15
| || | Message-ID:
| || | <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
| || | NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
| || | Mime-Version: 1.0
| || | Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
| || | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| || | X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr 2008
| || | 08:49:51 GMT)
| || | X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| || | NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
| || | Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| || | Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
| || | posting-host=212.179.33.130
| || | posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
| || | User-Agent: G2/1.0
| || | X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT
| || | 5.1 SV1 .NET
| || | CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322 InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
| || | Bytes: 1606
| || | Path:
| || |
| ||
| TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
| ||
| | -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.go
| || | og le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
| || | Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
| || | X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
| || | X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| || |
| || |
| || | --
| || | Thanks or Good Luck,
| || | There may be humor in this post, and,
| || | Naturally, you will not sue,
| || | Should things get worse after this,
| || | PCR
| || | pcrrcp@netzero.net
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net
|
|
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Only happened in this one, out of all the Win98 groups. Others who would
know and who have posted to this thread, who attend a lot more groups than I
do on this server and elsewhere, didn't mention anything...

Evidence is scanty. In any case, I'm sure the server managers are aware of
the issue and hard at work. Or not. Maybe the supposed hack has been dealt
with and they're just letting the messages age off the server.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23wV$HDWtIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> What has apparently escaped many is:
>
> This would be considered as a hack. Be it for advertising, increasing net
> presence [and yes spiders search for this type of info as well] or other.
> It would be interesting to see if this was done in the other forums as
> well. That would potential increase the NET presence for this service by
> thousands of users *supposedly* using the service. Think potential
> revenue/advertising.
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
>
> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:ej9Lg3VtIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | MEB wrote:
> | | Hmm, interesting, you may have found the potential answer.
> | | Not *this* server reset, but another which caused this by reposting
> | | the originals back to the group... didn't notice that,,
> |
> | Yep. Looks like these are old posts coming in a 2nd time.
> |
> | | FIND provided these results:
> | |
> | | 199 messages - from 04-12-08 to 05-12-08 with the Posted via
> | | http://computerhelpforums.net
> |
> | I see 202 that way, but it's also showing replies to posts that contain
> | that. Odd, I thought there were 100 more than that yesterday. I guess
> | the reset I did adjusted it somewhat.
> |
> | | Gee, seems an un-reputable [and likely illegal] way to make a server
> | | *appear* to be the news posting portal of choice by most of the
> | | posters here. Of course this will be reflected on ALL mirrors, so
> | | either this was an honest mistake, or this group and Microsoft just
> | | got hacked.
> |
> | I don't mind them appending the advertisement-- if only they'll send it
> | just once! I notice this current post of yours does not contain it. So--
> | you sent this one here directly? Or can I expect the other to come in a
> | week or two?
> |
> | | --
> | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | | --
> | | _________
> | |
> | | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | | news:eC2njsJtIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | || Wait a minute! A reset & compact didn't cure it-- I STILL have
> | || duplicates! However, now I am noticing they aren't precisely
> | || duplicated. The first seems always to have this note at the bottom...
> | ||
> | || Posted via http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway
> | ||
> | || So, I guess whoever uses that forum gets to have his post appear here
> | || TWICE! Or are they, themselves, posting it twice-- once to there &
> | || once to here -- & causing me & P.A. Bear to see double!!? MEB! What
> | || about you...?...
> | ||
> | || From: MEB <Guest.399ho6@nntp.nospam.local>
> | || Subject: Login issues Live.com
> | || Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 03:14:18 -0500
> | || Message-ID: <Guest.399ho6@nntp.nospam.local>
> | || Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
> | || User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
> | || X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
> | || X-Originating-IP: meb@not here@ho
> | || Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> | || NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
> | || 72.36.151.58
> | || Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> | || Lines: 1
> | || Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> | || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840176 X-Antivirus: avast!
> | || (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> | ||
> | || From: "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
> | || Subject: Login issues Live.com
> | || Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 04:14:18 -0400
> | || Lines: 8
> | || X-Priority: 3
> | || X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> | || X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
> | || X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
> | || X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080509-0, 05/09/2008), Outbound message
> | || X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> | || Message-ID: <O6ITaXnsIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
> | || Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> | || NNTP-Posting-Host: ACA6986D.ipt.aol.com 172.166.152.109
> | || Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
> | || Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> | || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840024 X-Antivirus: avast!
> | || (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> | ||
> | ||
> | || --
> | || Thanks or Good Luck,
> | || There may be humor in this post, and,
> | || Naturally, you will not sue,
> | || Should things get worse after this,
> | || PCR
> | || pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | || "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | || news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | || | Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems the
> | || | first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE. In
> | || | some case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination
> | || | is to
> | || reset
> | || | the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
> | || |
> | || | The posts are identical, but their Properties are different. Here
> | || | is
> | || an
> | || | example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected
> | || | directly to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the
> | || | dates seem to indicate different time zones?
> | || |
> | || | From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
> | || | Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
> | || | Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
> | || | Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
> | || | Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
> | || | User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
> | || | X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
> | || | X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
> | || | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> | || | NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
> | || | 72.36.151.58
> | || | Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> | || | Lines: 1
> | || | Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> | || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
> | || | X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
> | || | X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> | || |
> | || | From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
> | || | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> | || | Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
> | || | Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
> | || | Organization: http://groups.google.com
> | || | Lines: 15
> | || | Message-ID:
> | || | <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
> | || | NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
> | || | Mime-Version: 1.0
> | || | Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
> | || | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> | || | X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr 2008
> | || | 08:49:51 GMT)
> | || | X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> | || | NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
> | || | Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> | || | Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
> | || | posting-host=212.179.33.130
> | || | posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
> | || | User-Agent: G2/1.0
> | || | X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT
> | || | 5.1 SV1 .NET
> | || | CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322 InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> | || | Bytes: 1606
> | || | Path:
> | || |
> | ||
> | TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
> | ||
> | | -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.go
> | || | og le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> | || | Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> | || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
> | || | X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
> | || | X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> | || |
> | || |
> | || | --
> | || | Thanks or Good Luck,
> | || | There may be humor in this post, and,
> | || | Naturally, you will not sue,
> | || | Should things get worse after this,
> | || | PCR
> | || | pcrrcp@netzero.net
> |
> | --
> | Thanks or Good Luck,
> | There may be humor in this post, and,
> | Naturally, you will not sue,
> | Should things get worse after this,
> | PCR
> | pcrrcp@netzero.net
> |
> |
>
>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Never mind, that was a total brain fart.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:ezG7FREtIHA.1316@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Obviously, some of your messages are getting through. The one I'm replying
> to, for instance.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
> news:9rtf249h6eei0gsf6ccpl574cik5h4r7nv@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 12 May 2008 07:06:22 +0100, Nigel Stapley
>> <unet@judgemental.plus.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>>
>>>Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>>>> Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation: Sometime
>>>> this morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden there
>>>> were hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they
>>>> weren't "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yep - I saw the same in Thunderbird, and wondered wtf was going on.
>>
>> I saw the same in Agent. After purging and compacting the newsgroup,
>> everything was back to normal.
>>
>> Now I have an unrelated problem in that I can't see my replies to the
>> "PC not firing up" thread. This has happened to me several times in
>> the past and I've never managed to find the cause. I've even tried a
>> third server, aioe.org, which sometimes fixed the problem, but not
>> this time.
>>
>> Everything looks OK when I post the message. Agent thinks all went
>> well. However the messages don't show up in my newsfeed from
>> msnews.microsoft.com or news.internode.on.net, nor do they show up at
>> Google Groups. If I try to resend the same message to the aioe.org
>> news server, it is rejected with an error to the effect that it is
>> identical to a previously received message, so obviously the messages
>> are reaching the respective news servers. From there they seem to go
>> into some kind of bit bucket.
>>
>> - Franc Zabkar
>> --
>> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>
 
G

glee

Hmm, thought I smelled something.... <eg>
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/


"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%23Cr7GPXtIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Never mind, that was a total brain fart.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:ezG7FREtIHA.1316@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Obviously, some of your messages are getting through. The one I'm replying to,
>> for instance.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
>> news:9rtf249h6eei0gsf6ccpl574cik5h4r7nv@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 12 May 2008 07:06:22 +0100, Nigel Stapley
>>> <unet@judgemental.plus.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>>>
>>>>Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>>>>> Here's my highly intricate, extremely technical explanation: Sometime
>>>>> this morning, the server puked. During a refresh, all of a sudden there
>>>>> were hundreds of unread duplicates. I checked a couple to be sure they
>>>>> weren't "missing posts", then pressed Ctrl-A.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yep - I saw the same in Thunderbird, and wondered wtf was going on.
>>>
>>> I saw the same in Agent. After purging and compacting the newsgroup,
>>> everything was back to normal.
>>>
>>> Now I have an unrelated problem in that I can't see my replies to the
>>> "PC not firing up" thread. This has happened to me several times in
>>> the past and I've never managed to find the cause. I've even tried a
>>> third server, aioe.org, which sometimes fixed the problem, but not
>>> this time.
>>>
>>> Everything looks OK when I post the message. Agent thinks all went
>>> well. However the messages don't show up in my newsfeed from
>>> msnews.microsoft.com or news.internode.on.net, nor do they show up at
>>> Google Groups. If I try to resend the same message to the aioe.org
>>> news server, it is rejected with an error to the effect that it is
>>> identical to a previously received message, so obviously the messages
>>> are reaching the respective news servers. From there they seem to go
>>> into some kind of bit bucket.
>>>
>>> - Franc Zabkar
>>> --
>>> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>>
>
 
M

MEB

Could be. Though one would certainly hope the server operators DID plug this
hole. There should be NO way to replace original messages, but only NEW
postings.

Would anyone have even noticed, XP gen and networking and Vista gen were
getting hundreds of posts when I was monitoring them. They could have easily
dismissed them as was done originally here.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________


"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:e2qo1UWtIHA.3604@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| Only happened in this one, out of all the Win98 groups. Others who would
| know and who have posted to this thread, who attend a lot more groups than
I
| do on this server and elsewhere, didn't mention anything...
|
| Evidence is scanty. In any case, I'm sure the server managers are aware of
| the issue and hard at work. Or not. Maybe the supposed hack has been dealt
| with and they're just letting the messages age off the server.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:%23wV$HDWtIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > What has apparently escaped many is:
| >
| > This would be considered as a hack. Be it for advertising, increasing
net
| > presence [and yes spiders search for this type of info as well] or
other.
| > It would be interesting to see if this was done in the other forums as
| > well. That would potential increase the NET presence for this service by
| > thousands of users *supposedly* using the service. Think potential
| > revenue/advertising.
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
| >
| >
| > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > news:ej9Lg3VtIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | MEB wrote:
| > | | Hmm, interesting, you may have found the potential answer.
| > | | Not *this* server reset, but another which caused this by reposting
| > | | the originals back to the group... didn't notice that,,
| > |
| > | Yep. Looks like these are old posts coming in a 2nd time.
| > |
| > | | FIND provided these results:
| > | |
| > | | 199 messages - from 04-12-08 to 05-12-08 with the Posted via
| > | | http://computerhelpforums.net
| > |
| > | I see 202 that way, but it's also showing replies to posts that
contain
| > | that. Odd, I thought there were 100 more than that yesterday. I guess
| > | the reset I did adjusted it somewhat.
| > |
| > | | Gee, seems an un-reputable [and likely illegal] way to make a
server
| > | | *appear* to be the news posting portal of choice by most of the
| > | | posters here. Of course this will be reflected on ALL mirrors, so
| > | | either this was an honest mistake, or this group and Microsoft just
| > | | got hacked.
| > |
| > | I don't mind them appending the advertisement-- if only they'll send
it
| > | just once! I notice this current post of yours does not contain it.
So--
| > | you sent this one here directly? Or can I expect the other to come in
a
| > | week or two?
| > |
| > | | --
| > | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | | --
| > | | _________
| > | |
| > | | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > | | news:eC2njsJtIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | || Wait a minute! A reset & compact didn't cure it-- I STILL have
| > | || duplicates! However, now I am noticing they aren't precisely
| > | || duplicated. The first seems always to have this note at the
bottom...
| > | ||
| > | || Posted via http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway
| > | ||
| > | || So, I guess whoever uses that forum gets to have his post appear
here
| > | || TWICE! Or are they, themselves, posting it twice-- once to there &
| > | || once to here -- & causing me & P.A. Bear to see double!!? MEB! What
| > | || about you...?...
| > | ||
| > | || From: MEB <Guest.399ho6@nntp.nospam.local>
| > | || Subject: Login issues Live.com
| > | || Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 03:14:18 -0500
| > | || Message-ID: <Guest.399ho6@nntp.nospam.local>
| > | || Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
| > | || User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
| > | || X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
| > | || X-Originating-IP: meb@not here@ho
| > | || Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| > | || NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
| > | || 72.36.151.58
| > | || Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
| > | || Lines: 1
| > | || Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| > | || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840176 X-Antivirus: avast!
| > | || (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message X-Antivirus-Status:
Clean
| > | ||
| > | || From: "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| > | || Subject: Login issues Live.com
| > | || Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 04:14:18 -0400
| > | || Lines: 8
| > | || X-Priority: 3
| > | || X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
| > | || X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
| > | || X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
| > | || X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080509-0, 05/09/2008), Outbound message
| > | || X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| > | || Message-ID: <O6ITaXnsIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
| > | || Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| > | || NNTP-Posting-Host: ACA6986D.ipt.aol.com 172.166.152.109
| > | || Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
| > | || Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| > | || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840024 X-Antivirus: avast!
| > | || (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message X-Antivirus-Status:
Clean
| > | ||
| > | ||
| > | || --
| > | || Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | || There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | || Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | || Should things get worse after this,
| > | || PCR
| > | || pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > | || "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > | || news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > | || | Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems
the
| > | || | first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE. In
| > | || | some case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My inclination
| > | || | is to
| > | || reset
| > | || | the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
| > | || |
| > | || | The posts are identical, but their Properties are different. Here
| > | || | is
| > | || an
| > | || | example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected
| > | || | directly to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do the
| > | || | dates seem to indicate different time zones?
| > | || |
| > | || | From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| > | || | Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
| > | || | Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
| > | || | Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
| > | || | Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
| > | || | User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
| > | || | X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
| > | || | X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
| > | || | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| > | || | NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
| > | || | 72.36.151.58
| > | || | Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
| > | || | Lines: 1
| > | || | Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| > | || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
| > | || | X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
| > | || | X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| > | || |
| > | || | From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
| > | || | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| > | || | Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
| > | || | Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
| > | || | Organization: http://groups.google.com
| > | || | Lines: 15
| > | || | Message-ID:
| > | || |
<3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
| > | || | NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
| > | || | Mime-Version: 1.0
| > | || | Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
| > | || | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| > | || | X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr
2008
| > | || | 08:49:51 GMT)
| > | || | X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| > | || | NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
| > | || | Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
| > | || | Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
| > | || | posting-host=212.179.33.130
| > | || | posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
| > | || | User-Agent: G2/1.0
| > | || | X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT
| > | || | 5.1 SV1 .NET
| > | || | CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322
InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
| > | || | Bytes: 1606
| > | || | Path:
| > | || |
| > | ||
| > |
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
| > | ||
| > |
| -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.go
| > | || | og le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
| > | || | Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
| > | || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
| > | || | X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
| > | || | X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
| > | || |
| > | || |
| > | || | --
| > | || | Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | || | There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | || | Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | || | Should things get worse after this,
| > | || | PCR
| > | || | pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > |
| > | --
| > | Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | Should things get worse after this,
| > | PCR
| > | pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
 
F

Franc Zabkar

On Tue, 13 May 2008 23:49:11 -0400, "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Hmm, thought I smelled something.... <eg>

I've been trying to reply to this thread but I can't get through. Will
I be lucky this time?

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Just realized, I don't care, <s>. Not my problem.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uPxr8qXtIHA.4924@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Could be. Though one would certainly hope the server operators DID plug
> this
> hole. There should be NO way to replace original messages, but only NEW
> postings.
>
> Would anyone have even noticed, XP gen and networking and Vista gen were
> getting hundreds of posts when I was monitoring them. They could have
> easily
> dismissed them as was done originally here.
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:e2qo1UWtIHA.3604@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | Only happened in this one, out of all the Win98 groups. Others who would
> | know and who have posted to this thread, who attend a lot more groups
> than
> I
> | do on this server and elsewhere, didn't mention anything...
> |
> | Evidence is scanty. In any case, I'm sure the server managers are aware
> of
> | the issue and hard at work. Or not. Maybe the supposed hack has been
> dealt
> | with and they're just letting the messages age off the server.
> |
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:%23wV$HDWtIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > What has apparently escaped many is:
> | >
> | > This would be considered as a hack. Be it for advertising, increasing
> net
> | > presence [and yes spiders search for this type of info as well] or
> other.
> | > It would be interesting to see if this was done in the other forums as
> | > well. That would potential increase the NET presence for this service
> by
> | > thousands of users *supposedly* using the service. Think potential
> | > revenue/advertising.
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > --
> | > _________
> | >
> | >
> | > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | > news:ej9Lg3VtIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | > | MEB wrote:
> | > | | Hmm, interesting, you may have found the potential answer.
> | > | | Not *this* server reset, but another which caused this by
> reposting
> | > | | the originals back to the group... didn't notice that,,
> | > |
> | > | Yep. Looks like these are old posts coming in a 2nd time.
> | > |
> | > | | FIND provided these results:
> | > | |
> | > | | 199 messages - from 04-12-08 to 05-12-08 with the Posted via
> | > | | http://computerhelpforums.net
> | > |
> | > | I see 202 that way, but it's also showing replies to posts that
> contain
> | > | that. Odd, I thought there were 100 more than that yesterday. I
> guess
> | > | the reset I did adjusted it somewhat.
> | > |
> | > | | Gee, seems an un-reputable [and likely illegal] way to make a
> server
> | > | | *appear* to be the news posting portal of choice by most of the
> | > | | posters here. Of course this will be reflected on ALL mirrors, so
> | > | | either this was an honest mistake, or this group and Microsoft
> just
> | > | | got hacked.
> | > |
> | > | I don't mind them appending the advertisement-- if only they'll send
> it
> | > | just once! I notice this current post of yours does not contain it.
> So--
> | > | you sent this one here directly? Or can I expect the other to come
> in
> a
> | > | week or two?
> | > |
> | > | | --
> | > | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > | | --
> | > | | _________
> | > | |
> | > | | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | > | | news:eC2njsJtIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > | || Wait a minute! A reset & compact didn't cure it-- I STILL have
> | > | || duplicates! However, now I am noticing they aren't precisely
> | > | || duplicated. The first seems always to have this note at the
> bottom...
> | > | ||
> | > | || Posted via http://computerhelpforums.net Forum to USENET Gateway
> | > | ||
> | > | || So, I guess whoever uses that forum gets to have his post appear
> here
> | > | || TWICE! Or are they, themselves, posting it twice-- once to there
> &
> | > | || once to here -- & causing me & P.A. Bear to see double!!? MEB!
> What
> | > | || about you...?...
> | > | ||
> | > | || From: MEB <Guest.399ho6@nntp.nospam.local>
> | > | || Subject: Login issues Live.com
> | > | || Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 03:14:18 -0500
> | > | || Message-ID: <Guest.399ho6@nntp.nospam.local>
> | > | || Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
> | > | || User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
> | > | || X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
> | > | || X-Originating-IP: meb@not here@ho
> | > | || Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> | > | || NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
> | > | || 72.36.151.58
> | > | || Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> | > | || Lines: 1
> | > | || Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> | > | || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840176 X-Antivirus: avast!
> | > | || (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message X-Antivirus-Status:
> Clean
> | > | ||
> | > | || From: "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
> | > | || Subject: Login issues Live.com
> | > | || Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 04:14:18 -0400
> | > | || Lines: 8
> | > | || X-Priority: 3
> | > | || X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> | > | || X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
> | > | || X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
> | > | || X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080509-0, 05/09/2008), Outbound message
> | > | || X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> | > | || Message-ID: <O6ITaXnsIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
> | > | || Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> | > | || NNTP-Posting-Host: ACA6986D.ipt.aol.com 172.166.152.109
> | > | || Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
> | > | || Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> | > | || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840024 X-Antivirus: avast!
> | > | || (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Inbound message X-Antivirus-Status:
> Clean
> | > | ||
> | > | ||
> | > | || --
> | > | || Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > | || There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > | || Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > | || Should things get worse after this,
> | > | || PCR
> | > | || pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | > | || "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | > | || news:%23lRWx69sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > | || | Why am I seeing over 300 duplicated posts in this NG!? It seems
> the
> | > | || | first post in many threads are showing the initial post TWICE.
> In
> | > | || | some case, entire thread segments are duplicated. My
> inclination
> | > | || | is to
> | > | || reset
> | > | || | the NG. But I must go now-- no time to even investigate!
> | > | || |
> | > | || | The posts are identical, but their Properties are different.
> Here
> | > | || | is
> | > | || an
> | > | || | example. Can the posts be coming into this NG (I am connected
> | > | || | directly to the MS Server) from two different sources? Why do
> the
> | > | || | dates seem to indicate different time zones?
> | > | || |
> | > | || | From: afz <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
> | > | || | Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
> | > | || | Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:49:51 -0500
> | > | || | Message-ID: <Guest.399hn6@nntp.nospam.local>
> | > | || | Organization: Computer Help Forums Gateway
> | > | || | User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
> | > | || | X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
> | > | || | X-Originating-IP: amit.azizi@gmai
> | > | || | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> | > | || | NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.151.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com
> | > | || | 72.36.151.58
> | > | || | Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> | > | || | Lines: 1
> | > | || | Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> | > | || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:840140
> | > | || | X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080510-0, 05/10/2008), Inbound message
> | > | || | X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> | > | || |
> | > | || | From: afz <amit.azizi@gmail.com>
> | > | || | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> | > | || | Subject: wise install new product version on an old version
> | > | || | Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
> | > | || | Organization: http://groups.google.com
> | > | || | Lines: 15
> | > | || | Message-ID:
> | > | || |
> <3da8a85e-c8f3-46c5-93ae-34aad6591d90@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
> | > | || | NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.179.33.130
> | > | || | Mime-Version: 1.0
> | > | || | Content-Type: text/plain charset=ISO-8859-1
> | > | || | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> | > | || | X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209458991 14365 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr
> 2008
> | > | || | 08:49:51 GMT)
> | > | || | X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> | > | || | NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
> | > | || | Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> | > | || | Injection-Info: a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
> | > | || | posting-host=212.179.33.130
> | > | || | posting-account=qCGXIQoAAACiU37JXfSn1JsDwTuJ43t1
> | > | || | User-Agent: G2/1.0
> | > | || | X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible MSIE 6.0 Windows NT
> | > | || | 5.1 SV1 .NET
> | > | || | CLR 2.0.50727 .NET CLR 1.1.4322
> InfoPath.2),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> | > | || | Bytes: 1606
> | > | || | Path:
> | > | || |
> | > | ||
> | > |
> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t
> | > | ||
> | > |
> | -online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.go
> | > | || | og le.com!a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> | > | || | Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
> | > | || microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion:839549
> | > | || | X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080428-0, 04/28/2008), Inbound message
> | > | || | X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> | > | || |
> | > | || |
> | > | || | --
> | > | || | Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > | || | There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > | || | Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > | || | Should things get worse after this,
> | > | || | PCR
> | > | || | pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | > |
> | > | --
> | > | Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > | There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > | Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > | Should things get worse after this,
> | > | PCR
> | > | pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
>
>
 
F

Franc Zabkar

On Tue, 13 May 2008 23:49:11 -0400, "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Hmm, thought I smelled something.... <eg>

I've been trying to reply to this thread but I can't get through. Will
I be lucky this time?

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
M

MEB

Got through twice,,, are you not seeing it?

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:8osk24pj70d3v3p7sfg66dlc2lmrovuaeb@4ax.com...
| On Tue, 13 May 2008 23:49:11 -0400, "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com>
| put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
| >Hmm, thought I smelled something.... <eg>
|
| I've been trying to reply to this thread but I can't get through. Will
| I be lucky this time?
|
| - Franc Zabkar
| --
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

This one made it. There was a previous one, too, that you posted Monday
evening, your time. Told us all about your replies disappearing, to which I
replied with a totally backwards understanding, for which I apologized, to
which Brian replied...

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:q9sk24l28r1k7sfhd48lj7rqdfb9rav3cl@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 13 May 2008 23:49:11 -0400, "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com>
> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>Hmm, thought I smelled something.... <eg>
>
> I've been trying to reply to this thread but I can't get through. Will
> I be lucky this time?
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
F

Franc Zabkar

On Wed, 14 May 2008 01:09:26 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Got through twice,,, are you not seeing it?
>
>--
>MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

Yes I saw both copies. I intentionally sent it twice just to see if
the MS news server would baulk. The aioe.org news server (which went
off-line yesterday because the domain name registration expired)
doesn't allow duplicate posts and lets me know if I try to resend the
same post.

This is my 7th post to this thread. Neither of my two attempts at a
reply to Gary appear in my newsfeed. However, my newsreader seems to
think that the messages went through.

This is really weird. I still can't respond to the "PC not firing up"
thread, either.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
F

Franc Zabkar

On Wed, 14 May 2008 15:39:14 +1000, Franc Zabkar
<fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>On Wed, 14 May 2008 01:09:26 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
>put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>Got through twice,,, are you not seeing it?
>>
>>--
>>MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>
>Yes I saw both copies. I intentionally sent it twice just to see if
>the MS news server would baulk. The aioe.org news server (which went
>off-line yesterday because the domain name registration expired)
>doesn't allow duplicate posts and lets me know if I try to resend the
>same post.
>
>This is my 7th post to this thread. Neither of my two attempts at a
>reply to Gary appear in my newsfeed. However, my newsreader seems to
>think that the messages went through.
>
>This is really weird. I still can't respond to the "PC not firing up"
>thread, either.
>
>- Franc Zabkar

There was also one reply to glee that didn't get through. Just in case
there was something peculiar about the content of my posts, I sent
them to alt.test. They all got through. <shrug>

Here they are:

PC not firing up:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.test/msg/fe69a2d3e2250293?dmode=source

Duplicated Posts Showing in OE:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.test/msg/c97fc7a12aecbd9f?dmode=source

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
M

MEB

Tried posting your messages myself, haven't gone through yet, so [though the
CERT did, which was posted afterwards] ...

Why did you try aioe.org, just as a test?

Did you attempt to use some other server/service, rather than
internode.on.net [which came through]?

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:rmvk245d0fht5jj0613d3rpofbvigm4b4f@4ax.com...
| On Wed, 14 May 2008 15:39:14 +1000, Franc Zabkar
| <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
| >On Wed, 14 May 2008 01:09:26 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| >put finger to keyboard and composed:
| >
| >>Got through twice,,, are you not seeing it?
| >>
| >>--
| >>MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| >
| >Yes I saw both copies. I intentionally sent it twice just to see if
| >the MS news server would baulk. The aioe.org news server (which went
| >off-line yesterday because the domain name registration expired)
| >doesn't allow duplicate posts and lets me know if I try to resend the
| >same post.
| >
| >This is my 7th post to this thread. Neither of my two attempts at a
| >reply to Gary appear in my newsfeed. However, my newsreader seems to
| >think that the messages went through.
| >
| >This is really weird. I still can't respond to the "PC not firing up"
| >thread, either.
| >
| >- Franc Zabkar
|
| There was also one reply to glee that didn't get through. Just in case
| there was something peculiar about the content of my posts, I sent
| them to alt.test. They all got through. <shrug>
|
| Here they are:
|
| PC not firing up:
| http://groups.google.com/group/alt.test/msg/fe69a2d3e2250293?dmode=source
|
| Duplicated Posts Showing in OE:
| http://groups.google.com/group/alt.test/msg/c97fc7a12aecbd9f?dmode=source
|
| - Franc Zabkar
| --
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
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