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Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus-
Can not get online. Will change proxy setting back where they were.
"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Yes you can. I just changed those proxy settings , but the Web button has disappear
> in Avast. Did we remove it in some way? (finished my other project).
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:uTBcxEfwIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > OK, so Web Shield doesn't work on Win98 without the proxy. Didn't know that.
> > Well, IMO, that ain't worth it. It can just sit there and do nothing so long
> > as it stays out of the way. What I don't get is that it causes Ginny
> > problems, even with no firewall installed on Windows (just the Belkin
> > router.) Unless maybe I've undone enough now that it WILL just sit there and
> > do nothing. I can't get her to test it, <g>.
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS-MVP Shell/User
> > www.grystmill.com
> >
> > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> > news:uyun5JewIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > > Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> > > | As noted, the problem was solved. And if we want to enable WebShield,
> > > | Brian A. has provided the support pages that explain how to do it in
> > > | Windows 98 (different from later versions.) Not sure WHICH one of
> > > | these threads it's in, but perhaps you could find those messages.
> > > | Brian didn't contribute TOO much to the threads, so it should be easy
> > > | to find them.
> > > |
> > > | All I know is that I installed Avast! on a relatively new install of
> > > | 98, didn't have to change the firewall settings in my router (don't
> > > | have any other firewall), didn't have to do any of the things
> > > | suggested in the articles cited by Brian, and it is causing no
> > > | problems. Never HAVE had to disable the WebShield, that I can recall,
> > > | and I've not only been using it for at least a few years, but have
> > > | installed it on numerous machines with WebShield enabled (including
> > > | several '9x machines) and had no problems. Which just goes to show
> > > | you that it ain't all that simple.
> > >
> > > You didn't set the WebShield HTTP proxy...?...
> > > http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869
> > >
> > > I've implemented that, as it seemed to improve avast!'s performance
> > > at...
> > > http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm
> > > (Although, STILL it didn't appear to be as perfect as McAfee was,
> > > which reported a visus for all 8 of the bogus viruses there when
> > > clicked. With avast!, some of the double-zips had to be opened
> > > after download before an alarm would sound-- not simply clicked
> > > for download. )
> > >
> > > So...
> > >
> > > (a) Click the avast! icon in the tray.
> > > (b) Select Web Shield in the Installed Providers box.
> > >
> > > What shows for Scanned Count, & does it increase for each site you
> > > visit? Also...
> > >
> > > (c) Click the Customise button.
> > > (d) Basic tab-- ensure both items are checked.
> > > (e) Web Scanning tab-- ensure Scan All Files is bolted.
> > > (f) Advanced tab-- Check Show Detailed Info on
> > > Performed Action
> > >
> > > Now, do you see a TON of HTTP's & TIFs getting scanned in pop-up
> > > windows at the bottom of your screen for each site you visit?
> > >
> > > One thing about that HTTP Proxy...
> > >
> > > On the one occasion I temporarily uninstalled an earlier sub-version of
> > > avast!, the setting was not automatically undone. That makes sense,
> > > since it was manually implemented in the first place on this Win98
> > > machine-- but one must remember to undo it manually (I guess), in the
> > > event one wants to uninstall avast! for good. If not undone, I'm
> > > thinking the NET won't work!
> > >
> > >
> > > | --
> > > | Gary S. Terhune
> > > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> > > | www.grystmill.com
> > > |
> > > |
> > > | "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> > > | news:O4HUVPPwIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > > |> The standard shield is most important. The webshield is add
> > > |> protection and may be redundant. The logging on the standard shield
> > > |> exceeds the webshield.
> > > |> The webshield acts like a "transparent proxy server"or application
> > > |> level FW
> > > |> for Avast database only. I do not know if it needs server rights or
> > > |> not. Most programs do not. I have no program alerts with these
> > > |> settings and ZA set such that webshield has access rights only.
> > > |> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> > > |> news:euOs3bOwIHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > > |>> I know that. The doesn't now and never did have ZA installed,
> > > |>> AFAIK. (Maybe had it installed a long time ago.)
> > > |>>
> > > |>> --
> > > |>> Gary S. Terhune
> > > |>> MS-MVP Shell/User
> > > |>> www.grystmill.com
> > > |>>
> > > |>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> > > |>> news:eemzPZOwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > > |>> > Sorry, acronyms sometimes overwelm us. By ZA, I meant ZoneAlarm
> > > |>> > firewall.
> > > |>> >
> > > |>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> > > |>> > news:uRrtmSOwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > > |>> >> What ZA? There is no ZA. In any case, the issue has been dealt
> > > |>> >> with in another thread in so far as IE is concerned. The real
> > > |>> >> question is whether to use WebShield at all.
> > > |>> >>
> > > |>> >> I neglected to add to the previous post that we have a "wrap-up"
> > > |>> >> thread
> > > |>> >> going named "IE running well so far". The lady also just started
> > > |>> >> a new thread with a request for help in choosing and using a new
> > > |>> >> firewall, "Which firewall is best for Win98SE". Perhaps you
> > > |>> >> could add something there?
> > > |>> >>
> > > |>> >> --
> > > |>> >> Gary S. Terhune
> > > |>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> > > |>> >> www.grystmill.com
> > > |>> >>
> > > |>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> > > |>> >> news:OU9zcKOwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > > |>> >> > For the ZA Overview>Preferences>General_options: check the
> > > |>> >> > proxy setting and use localhost and port 12080. For MSIE
> > > |>> >> > Internet Options>connections>Lan
> > > |>> >> > Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need to put the
> > > |>> >> > loopback
> > > |>> >> > adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA FW>Zones: use IP address as
> > > |>> >> > the ADD option and name it localhost with IP 127.0.0.1 and
> > > |>> >> > assign it as Trusted.
> > > |>> >> > The Avast webshield should begin scanning and logging.
> > > |>> >> > * I not certain that the ZA setting is as necessary as MSIE,
> > > |>> >> > but seems to be
> > > |>> >> > a good idea to let ZA know that this is working like a
> > > |>> >> > "Transparent Proxy" server.
> > > |>> >> >
> > > |>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> > > |>> >> > news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > > |>> >> >> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll try to
> > > |>> >> >> wrap it
> > > |> up
> > > |>> > in
> > > |>> >> > the
> > > |>> >> >> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils down to
> > > |>> >> >> there was
> > > |> a
> > > |>> >> >> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of it. But
> > > |>> >> >> the REAL issue is that for Avast! Web Shield to function, it
> > > |>> >> >> needs to have port 12080 open. This is from Avast! Support:
> > > |>> >> >> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to access
> > > |>> >> >> > internet in your firewall settings.
> > > |>> >> >> >
> > > |>> >> >> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall,
> > > |>> >> >> > then
> > > |> start
> > > |>> >> > avast
> > > |>> >> >> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check). When
> > > |>> >> >> firewall
> > > |>> >> >> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the
> > > |>> >> >> rule again. If your firewall has option that allowed program
> > > |>> >> >> changes often, set it too.
> > > |>> >> >> >
> > > |>> >> >> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process
> > > |>> >> >> > (ashWebSv.exe or aswWebSv.exe) needs a permission to access
> > > |>> >> >> > the Internet (TCP port 80) and a permission
> > > |>> >> >> to act as a server and accept incoming
> > > |>> >> >> > connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP port
> > > |>> >> >> > 12080.
> > > |>> >> >>
> > > |>> >> >> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be running
> > > |>> >> >> more formal scans for malware, HJT, etc.
> > > |>> >> >>
> > > |>> >> >> --
> > > |>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> > > |>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> > > |>> >> >> www.grystmill.com
> > > |>> >> >>
> > > |>> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > |>> >> >> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> > > |>> >> >> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that still
> > > |>> >> >> > supports Windows 98se for my Dell
> > > |>> >> >> > Dimension desktop?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks or Good Luck,
> > > There may be humor in this post, and,
> > > Naturally, you will not sue,
> > > Should things get worse after this,
> > > PCR
> > > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
Can not get online. Will change proxy setting back where they were.
"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:483f5764$0$15161$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> Yes you can. I just changed those proxy settings , but the Web button has disappear
> in Avast. Did we remove it in some way? (finished my other project).
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:uTBcxEfwIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > OK, so Web Shield doesn't work on Win98 without the proxy. Didn't know that.
> > Well, IMO, that ain't worth it. It can just sit there and do nothing so long
> > as it stays out of the way. What I don't get is that it causes Ginny
> > problems, even with no firewall installed on Windows (just the Belkin
> > router.) Unless maybe I've undone enough now that it WILL just sit there and
> > do nothing. I can't get her to test it, <g>.
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS-MVP Shell/User
> > www.grystmill.com
> >
> > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> > news:uyun5JewIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > > Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> > > | As noted, the problem was solved. And if we want to enable WebShield,
> > > | Brian A. has provided the support pages that explain how to do it in
> > > | Windows 98 (different from later versions.) Not sure WHICH one of
> > > | these threads it's in, but perhaps you could find those messages.
> > > | Brian didn't contribute TOO much to the threads, so it should be easy
> > > | to find them.
> > > |
> > > | All I know is that I installed Avast! on a relatively new install of
> > > | 98, didn't have to change the firewall settings in my router (don't
> > > | have any other firewall), didn't have to do any of the things
> > > | suggested in the articles cited by Brian, and it is causing no
> > > | problems. Never HAVE had to disable the WebShield, that I can recall,
> > > | and I've not only been using it for at least a few years, but have
> > > | installed it on numerous machines with WebShield enabled (including
> > > | several '9x machines) and had no problems. Which just goes to show
> > > | you that it ain't all that simple.
> > >
> > > You didn't set the WebShield HTTP proxy...?...
> > > http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869
> > >
> > > I've implemented that, as it seemed to improve avast!'s performance
> > > at...
> > > http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm
> > > (Although, STILL it didn't appear to be as perfect as McAfee was,
> > > which reported a visus for all 8 of the bogus viruses there when
> > > clicked. With avast!, some of the double-zips had to be opened
> > > after download before an alarm would sound-- not simply clicked
> > > for download. )
> > >
> > > So...
> > >
> > > (a) Click the avast! icon in the tray.
> > > (b) Select Web Shield in the Installed Providers box.
> > >
> > > What shows for Scanned Count, & does it increase for each site you
> > > visit? Also...
> > >
> > > (c) Click the Customise button.
> > > (d) Basic tab-- ensure both items are checked.
> > > (e) Web Scanning tab-- ensure Scan All Files is bolted.
> > > (f) Advanced tab-- Check Show Detailed Info on
> > > Performed Action
> > >
> > > Now, do you see a TON of HTTP's & TIFs getting scanned in pop-up
> > > windows at the bottom of your screen for each site you visit?
> > >
> > > One thing about that HTTP Proxy...
> > >
> > > On the one occasion I temporarily uninstalled an earlier sub-version of
> > > avast!, the setting was not automatically undone. That makes sense,
> > > since it was manually implemented in the first place on this Win98
> > > machine-- but one must remember to undo it manually (I guess), in the
> > > event one wants to uninstall avast! for good. If not undone, I'm
> > > thinking the NET won't work!
> > >
> > >
> > > | --
> > > | Gary S. Terhune
> > > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> > > | www.grystmill.com
> > > |
> > > |
> > > | "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> > > | news:O4HUVPPwIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > > |> The standard shield is most important. The webshield is add
> > > |> protection and may be redundant. The logging on the standard shield
> > > |> exceeds the webshield.
> > > |> The webshield acts like a "transparent proxy server"or application
> > > |> level FW
> > > |> for Avast database only. I do not know if it needs server rights or
> > > |> not. Most programs do not. I have no program alerts with these
> > > |> settings and ZA set such that webshield has access rights only.
> > > |> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> > > |> news:euOs3bOwIHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > > |>> I know that. The doesn't now and never did have ZA installed,
> > > |>> AFAIK. (Maybe had it installed a long time ago.)
> > > |>>
> > > |>> --
> > > |>> Gary S. Terhune
> > > |>> MS-MVP Shell/User
> > > |>> www.grystmill.com
> > > |>>
> > > |>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> > > |>> news:eemzPZOwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > > |>> > Sorry, acronyms sometimes overwelm us. By ZA, I meant ZoneAlarm
> > > |>> > firewall.
> > > |>> >
> > > |>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> > > |>> > news:uRrtmSOwIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > > |>> >> What ZA? There is no ZA. In any case, the issue has been dealt
> > > |>> >> with in another thread in so far as IE is concerned. The real
> > > |>> >> question is whether to use WebShield at all.
> > > |>> >>
> > > |>> >> I neglected to add to the previous post that we have a "wrap-up"
> > > |>> >> thread
> > > |>> >> going named "IE running well so far". The lady also just started
> > > |>> >> a new thread with a request for help in choosing and using a new
> > > |>> >> firewall, "Which firewall is best for Win98SE". Perhaps you
> > > |>> >> could add something there?
> > > |>> >>
> > > |>> >> --
> > > |>> >> Gary S. Terhune
> > > |>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> > > |>> >> www.grystmill.com
> > > |>> >>
> > > |>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> > > |>> >> news:OU9zcKOwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > > |>> >> > For the ZA Overview>Preferences>General_options: check the
> > > |>> >> > proxy setting and use localhost and port 12080. For MSIE
> > > |>> >> > Internet Options>connections>Lan
> > > |>> >> > Settings> same basic choices as ZA. Next you need to put the
> > > |>> >> > loopback
> > > |>> >> > adapter in the Trusted zone of ZA FW>Zones: use IP address as
> > > |>> >> > the ADD option and name it localhost with IP 127.0.0.1 and
> > > |>> >> > assign it as Trusted.
> > > |>> >> > The Avast webshield should begin scanning and logging.
> > > |>> >> > * I not certain that the ZA setting is as necessary as MSIE,
> > > |>> >> > but seems to be
> > > |>> >> > a good idea to let ZA know that this is working like a
> > > |>> >> > "Transparent Proxy" server.
> > > |>> >> >
> > > |>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> > > |>> >> > news:eC3CbG6vIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > > |>> >> >> This issue has spanned four threads, now, and we'll try to
> > > |>> >> >> wrap it
> > > |> up
> > > |>> > in
> > > |>> >> > the
> > > |>> >> >> thread "IE Running well so far". However, it boils down to
> > > |>> >> >> there was
> > > |> a
> > > |>> >> >> thirty-day trial firewall installed, so we got rid of it. But
> > > |>> >> >> the REAL issue is that for Avast! Web Shield to function, it
> > > |>> >> >> needs to have port 12080 open. This is from Avast! Support:
> > > |>> >> >> > You should allow web shield avast! provider to access
> > > |>> >> >> > internet in your firewall settings.
> > > |>> >> >> >
> > > |>> >> >> > You can remove existing rules for avast in your firewall,
> > > |>> >> >> > then
> > > |> start
> > > |>> >> > avast
> > > |>> >> >> update (or restart Windows to trigger auto-update check). When
> > > |>> >> >> firewall
> > > |>> >> >> asks, allow avast.setup access to internet and create the
> > > |>> >> >> rule again. If your firewall has option that allowed program
> > > |>> >> >> changes often, set it too.
> > > |>> >> >> >
> > > |>> >> >> > For the correct operation the Web Shield process
> > > |>> >> >> > (ashWebSv.exe or aswWebSv.exe) needs a permission to access
> > > |>> >> >> > the Internet (TCP port 80) and a permission
> > > |>> >> >> to act as a server and accept incoming
> > > |>> >> >> > connections from localhost (the local machine) on TCP port
> > > |>> >> >> > 12080.
> > > |>> >> >>
> > > |>> >> >> There are still outstanding questions, and she'll be running
> > > |>> >> >> more formal scans for malware, HJT, etc.
> > > |>> >> >>
> > > |>> >> >> --
> > > |>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> > > |>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> > > |>> >> >> www.grystmill.com
> > > |>> >> >>
> > > |>> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > |>> >> >> news:48363e4c$0$15202$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> > > |>> >> >> > Is there a antivirus that I can download that still
> > > |>> >> >> > supports Windows 98se for my Dell
> > > |>> >> >> > Dimension desktop?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks or Good Luck,
> > > There may be humor in this post, and,
> > > Naturally, you will not sue,
> > > Should things get worse after this,
> > > PCR
> > > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>