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Gary S. Terhune

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

<BG> The lady has plenty of practice uninstalling and installing Avast!,
PCR! With lots of expert help. Besides, if she has an older version, it can
easily be updated using the taskbar icon's menu. I still use setupeng from
1/27/07. In fact, I *think* it automatically updates during install but I
can't be sure. Anyway, there are two update choices in the menu, for the
engine and for the defs.

As for using the proxy, seems to me that doing so already caused problems
for Ginny, but I can't recall for sure. Still, IMO, if an app needs a proxy
it should deal with it during Setup. Otherwise, it definitely won't get
UNdealt with during an uninstall, and that eventuality might cause all kinds
of grief. WebShield's a secondary layer of idiot-proofing, er, defense,
anyway. Besides, the lady seems to be a safe surfer.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:ePz6oaFxIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I see where you posted your Startup Group. It will take some study for
> me to decipher. In the meantime-- absolutely clicking avast! should not
> do the things you say. You must go to Add/Remove Programs & uninstall
> it...
>
> (a) "START button, Find, F/F, SetupEng"
>
> That is the avast! raw download. How many do you have?
> Delete all but the latest, going by Modification date.
>
> (b) "START, Settings, Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs"
> (c) Double-Click avast! Anti-virus in the list.
> Avast! Antivirus Setup will open.
> (d) Click the Update Components icon.
> Is the version showing... 4.8.1201?
> (e) Click the Uninstall button, & do the uninstall.
>
> (f) If the version was less than mine, delete your remaining
> SetupEng.exe to avoid confusing & save disk space--
> & go download the new one...
> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
>
> (g) Click your latest SetupEng.exe to do the install.
>
> Now, can you click around in avast! & not crash? If so, we may proceed
> with the settings. Let's try the proxy again...
> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869
> Since you have a LAN, do the one that involves the LAN only.
>
> ......Quote instructions when LAN is involved...................
> Proxy server settings for Internet Explorer when using broadband and/or
> local area network (LAN) Internet connection
>
> 1. Start Internet Explorer.
> 2. Select Tools ® Internet Options... from the main menu.
> 3. Switch to page Connections.
> 4. Click on the LAN Settings... button.
> 5. Check the option Use a proxy server for your LAN
> 6. Write localhost into the Address field (alternatively, you can
> enter IP address 127.0.0.1, which is the same as localhost).
> 7. Enter 12080 into the Port field.
> 8. Confirm with OK button.
> .......EOQ instructions when LAN is involved......................
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:4842fe24$0$15204$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> | Without Web Shield. I had a hard time opening it last night to run a
> scan. "An
> | attempt was made to load, ...." when I close that out. the splash
> screen is frozen
> | there and I have to do a ctl alt dlt to 'end task' , then the scanner
> is ther with a
> | simple interface. I can not close it with the x. Again I have to run a
> ctl-alt-dlt.
> | to end task. So I guess it is not running as smoothly as I thought.
> |
> |
> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | news:%23DXhKqAxIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | > "Avast is running smoothly..." Is that WITH the WebShield turned on
> or
> | > without?
> | >
> | > --
> | > Gary S. Terhune
> | > MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > www.grystmill.com
> | >
> | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> | > news:48424910$0$25060$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> | > > Brian asked: What is the exact make/model of the router?
> | > >
> | > > Answer: BELKIN Model # F5D5230-4
> | > >
> | > > Brian A said :if anything you may need to forward the port that
> Avast
> | > > uses in order
> | > > to allow it through.
> | > >
> | > > Reply: Avast is having no problems. Running smoothly. Thanks.
> | > >
> | > > Ginny
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> | > > news:uahHmV6wIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> | > >> news:4840bb81$0$25061$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> | > >> >I did not set anything in Belkin. Perhaps I should have gone to
> my site
> | > >> >and
> | > >> >entered
> | > >> > the Proxy settings for Avast.
> | > >>
> | > >> It's not a site, it's the routers web based configuration. I
> don't
> | > >> believe
> | > >> there is any proxy setting needed at all in the routers
> configuration, .
> | > >>>
> | > >> --
> | > >>
> | > >>
> | > >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
> | > >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> | > >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> | > >>
> | > >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
> | > >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> | > >>
> | > >>
> | > >>
> | > >>
> | > >
> | > >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>
 
P

PCR

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

CdLSRN wrote:
| My Startup group:

Well, this site...
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/startup/
....seems to be fairly excellent! Copy/pste each of your startup programs
into there to know what they do & whether they might be safely removed.
Get back with any further questions. I did the first two...

| Microsoft Office Startup Group "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
| Office\Office\OSA9.EXE" -b -l

That comes in with Microsoft Office Suite to improve performance. You
don't have the OSA9.EXE that is a virus, because yours is in the right
folder it should be in. The site is recommending it be removed, anyhow,
for being a resource hog. It does have this note, though...

Note - if you make use of the Microsoft Office Shortcut Bar outside an
office program this application will need to be enabled for it to show.

If you want to remove it, look in Office Suites various menus to see
whether it has an option to turn that feature off. Otherwise, you would
uncheck that item at "START, Run, MSConfig, Startup tab"-- but Terhune
is against doing it there!

| run Win.ini hpfsched

That one is showing up in your DrWatson report. The site says it's just
reminding you to clean your printer cartridges. To remove it...

(a) "START button, Run, Win.ini"
(b) Remove "hpfsched" from the "run=",
so that it is now just... run=

Doing so "might" get rid of that <unknown>-- IIRC from something glee
said long ago!

| SSBkgdUpdate Registry (Machine Run) "c:\Program Files\Common
| Files\Scansoft Shared\SSBkgdUpdate\SSBkgdupdate.exe" -Embedding -boot

Look uup-- SSBkgdupdate.exe. That is, copy/paste it into the requestor
at that site. Report back, if you can't figure what to do.

| OpwareSE4 Registry (Machine Run) "c:\Program
| Files\ScanSoft\OmniPageSE4.0\OpwareSE4.exe"

Look up-- OpwareSE4.exe.

| ashMaiSv Registry (Machine Run)
| C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\ashmaisv.exe

That is one of the avast! startups & will be replaced when you do that
un/re-install. It will be necessary to keep this one.

| POINTER Registry (Machine Run) point32.exe

Look up-- point32.exe.

| Change Lines Registry (Machine Run) C:\chngline.exe

Look up-- chngline.exe.

| LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Run) Rundll32.exe
| powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme

That one you must keep. It is a normal MS program that loads & exits
quickly during boot.

| ScanRegistry Registry (Machine Run) c:\windows\scanregw.exe /autorun
| SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe

That one too must be kept. It does your Registry backup at boot.

| StillImageMonitor Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE

Look up-- STIMON.EXE.

| SmcService Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
| -startgui

| mdac_runonce Registry (Machine Run)
| C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\runonce.exe

Look up-- runonce.exe. It actually is an MS program-- don't delete the
program! Yours SHOULD be deactivated from the Startup Group, though,
going by that site. Uncheck it in MSConfig, if you can find no other
way.

| avast! Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program Files\Alwil
| Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe

That also is avast!.

| HP Port Resolver Registry (Machine
| Service) $SYSTEM\hpbpro.exe

Look up-- hpbpro.exe.

| HP Status Server
| Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpboid.exe

| winmodem Registry (Machine Service) WINMODEM.101\wmexe.exe

Look up-- wmexe.exe.

| KB918547 Registry (Machine Service)
| C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB918547\KB918547.EXE KB891711

That is an MS critical update. Keep.

| Registry (Machine
| Service) c:\windows\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE

Same here-- keep this critical update. Only Bill in Co. has permission
not to!

| PPRT Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program
| Files\CA\SharedComponents\PPRT\bin\ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe

Look this one up-- ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe.

| LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Service) Rundll32.exe
| powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme

Keep-- it looks like a duplicate, but it is not.

| SmcService Registry (Machine Service) C:\PROGRAM
| FILES\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE

Look up-- SMC.EXE.

|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:Oxn$3kCxIHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|> CdLSRN wrote:
|> | I'm not quite sure where you want me to respond but here I am. As
|> | far as Dr. Watson:
|> | --------------------
|> | <unknown> has altered Windows system files.
|> | Module Name: <unknown>
|> | --------------------
|> | That entry has been in Dr. Watson, as I recall for years. Nothing
|> | new.
|> |
|> | I ran registry checker and it said "No errors found".
|> |
|> | Thank you for telling me how to do a system restore. My question
|> | is, why didn't someone tell me that when I couldn't get online?
|> | Wouldn't that have solved my problem? Ginny
|>
|> I don't recall suggesting a system restore or even a registry
|> restore to you for this specific problem. It could come in handy in
|> the future. You should get something that does a full system backup.
|> Nothing very useful for that comes with Win98. I use...
|>
|> http://www.bootitng.com/ 's BootIt NG, has a variety of backup
|> capabilities & works with all OS: Copy partition(s) to HDD, or Image
|> to HDD or to CD or DVD. Create, move, shrink or expand partitions
|> without data loss. Multi-boot too. To install & use beyond 30 days,
|> $34.95.
|>
|> ..., but there are alternatives that others use & like.
|>
|> As far as that <unknown> in your DrWatson report (yep, this was
|> where to respond for that), I wouldn't want to have it, but frankly
|> I did live with one for a while I think. It may go away on its own
|> some day when you uninstall some package or program. As long as it
|> is not mentioned in a crash report, probably you can live with it.
|> Keep DrWatson in the Tray for that report on your next crash.
|>
|> One way to research it is to boot to Safe Mode (the Startup Group
|> won't start in Safe Mode) or to use "START, Run, MSConfig" to turn
|> off the Startup Group & boot to Normal Mode. If it drops out of that
|> DrWatson Diagnosis window, then it is something in the Startup Group
|> doing it. Then, you turn half of them back on, reboot, & see whether
|> it's returned-- & so on. But it may not really be worth all this
|> trouble, since you've had it forever without incident. OK-- glad all
|> else seems to be just fine. Maybe post your Starup Group, as I
|> suggested somewhere in this thread, for a quick examination.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
P

PCR

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| <BG> The lady has plenty of practice uninstalling and installing
| Avast!, PCR! With lots of expert help. Besides, if she has an older
| version, it can easily be updated using the taskbar icon's menu. I
| still use setupeng from 1/27/07. In fact, I *think* it automatically
| updates during install but I can't be sure. Anyway, there are two
| update choices in the menu, for the engine and for the defs.

True, but she reports crashes when clicking avast! icons. Might be best
to un/re-install in this circumstance, if she won't crash trying.

| As for using the proxy, seems to me that doing so already caused
| problems for Ginny, but I can't recall for sure. Still, IMO, if an
| app needs a proxy it should deal with it during Setup. Otherwise, it
| definitely won't get UNdealt with during an uninstall, and that
| eventuality might cause all kinds of grief. WebShield's a secondary
| layer of idiot-proofing, er, defense, anyway. Besides, the lady seems
| to be a safe surfer.

I would want to try just once more (because it improves the Eicar
testing), especially as the current install isn't a good one & might be
malfunctioning at the proxy setting for that reason.

I have to go now, will get back tomorrow.

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:ePz6oaFxIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|>I see where you posted your Startup Group. It will take some study for
|> me to decipher. In the meantime-- absolutely clicking avast! should
|> not do the things you say. You must go to Add/Remove Programs &
|> uninstall it...
|>
|> (a) "START button, Find, F/F, SetupEng"
|>
|> That is the avast! raw download. How many do you have?
|> Delete all but the latest, going by Modification date.
|>
|> (b) "START, Settings, Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs"
|> (c) Double-Click avast! Anti-virus in the list.
|> Avast! Antivirus Setup will open.
|> (d) Click the Update Components icon.
|> Is the version showing... 4.8.1201?
|> (e) Click the Uninstall button, & do the uninstall.
|>
|> (f) If the version was less than mine, delete your remaining
|> SetupEng.exe to avoid confusing & save disk space--
|> & go download the new one...
|> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
|>
|> (g) Click your latest SetupEng.exe to do the install.
|>
|> Now, can you click around in avast! & not crash? If so, we may
|> proceed with the settings. Let's try the proxy again...
|> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869
|> Since you have a LAN, do the one that involves the LAN only.
|>
|> ......Quote instructions when LAN is involved...................
|> Proxy server settings for Internet Explorer when using broadband
|> and/or local area network (LAN) Internet connection
|>
|> 1. Start Internet Explorer.
|> 2. Select Tools ® Internet Options... from the main menu.
|> 3. Switch to page Connections.
|> 4. Click on the LAN Settings... button.
|> 5. Check the option Use a proxy server for your LAN
|> 6. Write localhost into the Address field (alternatively, you can
|> enter IP address 127.0.0.1, which is the same as localhost).
|> 7. Enter 12080 into the Port field.
|> 8. Confirm with OK button.
|> .......EOQ instructions when LAN is involved......................
|>
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
|> news:4842fe24$0$15204$607ed4bc@cv.net...
|> | Without Web Shield. I had a hard time opening it last night to
|> | run a scan. "An attempt was made to load, ...." when I close that
|> | out. the splash screen is frozen there and I have to do a ctl alt
|> | dlt to 'end task' , then the scanner is ther with a simple
|> | interface. I can not close it with the x. Again I have to run a
|> | ctl-alt-dlt. to end task. So I guess it is not running as smoothly
|> | as I thought.
|> |
|> |
|> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|> | news:%23DXhKqAxIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|> | > "Avast is running smoothly..." Is that WITH the WebShield turned
|> | > on or without?
|> | >
|> | > --
|> | > Gary S. Terhune
|> | > MS-MVP Shell/User
|> | > www.grystmill.com
|> | >
|> | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
|> | > news:48424910$0$25060$607ed4bc@cv.net...
|> | > > Brian asked: What is the exact make/model of the router?
|> | > >
|> | > > Answer: BELKIN Model # F5D5230-4
|> | > >
|> | > > Brian A said :if anything you may need to forward the port
|> | > > that Avast uses in order
|> | > > to allow it through.
|> | > >
|> | > > Reply: Avast is having no problems. Running smoothly. Thanks.
|> | > >
|> | > > Ginny
|> | > >
|> | > >
|> | > >
|> | > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
|> | > > news:uahHmV6wIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|> | > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
|> | > >> news:4840bb81$0$25061$607ed4bc@cv.net...
|> | > >> >I did not set anything in Belkin. Perhaps I should have gone
|> | > >> >to my site and
|> | > >> >entered
|> | > >> > the Proxy settings for Avast.
|> | > >>
|> | > >> It's not a site, it's the routers web based configuration.
|> | > >> I don't believe
|> | > >> there is any proxy setting needed at all in the routers
|> | > >> configuration, .
|> | > >>>
|> | > >> --
|> | > >>
|> | > >>
|> | > >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
|> | > >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
|> | > >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
|> | > >>
|> | > >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
|> | > >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
M

MEB

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

NO I didn't....

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:umYKylCxIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| | What system restore? There is no System Restore in Windows 98. Unless
| | you make full system backups using a third-party app, the closest you
| | can get with Win98 is to restore a Registry Backup. That would not
| | have gotten you back online. Your old firewall was what kept you
| | offline.
|
| I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any of the others!
| Maybe MEB said it!
|
| | --
| | Gary S. Terhune
| | MS-MVP Shell/User
| | www.grystmill.com
| |
| | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
| | news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...
| |> I'm not quite sure where you want me to respond but here I am. As
| |> far as Dr. Watson:
| |> --------------------
| |> <unknown> has altered Windows system files.
| |> Module Name: <unknown>
| |> --------------------
| |> That entry has been in Dr. Watson, as I recall for years. Nothing
| |> new.
| |>
| |> I ran registry checker and it said "No errors found".
| |>
| |> Thank you for telling me how to do a system restore. My question
| |> is, why didn't
| |> someone tell me that when I couldn't get online? Wouldn't that have
| |> solved my
| |> problem? Ginny
| |>
| |>
| |>
| |> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| |> news:OUluF34wIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| |>> As Jim has said, absolutely the 2 "KB" entries are fine. I tend to
| |>> think the Adobe Type Manager entry can remain as well. But this
| |>> one...
| |>>
| |>> --------------------
| |>> <unknown> has altered Windows system files.
| |>> Module Name: <unknown>
| |>> --------------------
| |>>
| |>> ...needs to be investigated! It could be innocent, but anyway I
| |>> wouldn't want one there myself. (I dimly recall once I did have it,
| |>> but it isn't there now. Could be it came/went with some
| |>> in/uninstall I did-- maybe NetZero's NET-search thing?) Anyway, I'm
| |>> looking at Google for some ideas, but that is a difficult one to
| |>> figure. In the meantime, maybe post your Startup Group...
| |>>
| |>> (a) "START button, Run, MSInfo32, Software Environment, Startup
| |>> Programs".
| |>> (b) Use the Edit menu to select all, copy, & then post it.
| |>>
| |>> But, STILL, it may be a good idea to finish up with Terhune before
| |>> investigating this-- for my safety & yours! I think he's almost done
| |>> arguing with MEB!
| |>>
| |>> CdLSRN wrote:
| |>> | --------------------
| |>> | Windows KB891711 component has altered Windows system files.
| |>> |
| |>> | Module Name: KB891711.EXE
| |>> | Description: Windows KB891711 component
| |>> | Version: 4.10.2223
| |>> | Product: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
| |>> | Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation
| |>> |
| |>> | --------------------
| |>> | Adobe Type Manager has altered Windows system files.
| |>> |
| |>> | Module Name: ATMSYS.DRV
| |>> | Description: Adobe Type Manager
| |>> | Version: R v4.00-32S058G06NN
| |>> | Product: Adobe Type Manager
| |>> | Manufacturer: Adobe Systems Incorporated
| |>> |
| |>> | --------------------
| |>> | <unknown> has altered Windows system files.
| |>> |
| |>> | Module Name: <unknown>
| |>> |
| |>> | --------------------
| |>> | Windows KB918547 EXE component has altered Windows system files.
| |>> |
| |>> | Module Name: KB918547.EXE
| |>> | Description: Windows KB918547 EXE component
| |>> | Version: 4.10.2224
| |>> | Product: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
| |>> | Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation
| |>> |
| |>> |
| |>> |
| |>> |
| |>> |> To get a bit more diagnostic info about such crashes...
| |>> |>
| |>> |> "START button, Run, DRWATSON"
| |>> |> now, D-Clk it's button in the Tray.
| |>> |>
| |>> |> What diagnosis is on the first tab? Copy/paste it's contents,
| |>> |> using the menu. Close DrWatson, but leave it in the Tray. It sits
| |>> |> waiting for a crash, then traps it, putting info into the
| |>> |> Diagnosis tab.
| |>> |>
| |>> |> (a) "START button, Find, F/F, DrWatson.exe".
| |>> |> (Should be in "C:\Windows".)
| |>> |> (b) R-Clk it, point to "Send to" & click "Desktop (Create
| |>> |> shortcut)". (c) R-Clk the shortcut on the Desktop, & select
| |>> |> "Cut". (d) Open Explorer to "C:\WINDOWS\Start
| |>> |> Menu\Programs\StartUp" (e) R-Clk in the R-Pane, & select "Paste".
| |>> |>
| |>> |> Now, it will always boot to the Tray, waiting for a crash or a
| |>> |> D-Clk. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=275481
| |>> |> How to troubleshoot
| |>> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| |>> | news:ecF6cAswIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| |>> |> CdLSRN wrote:
| |>> |> | I am here and you can get me to test it. Tell me what you want
| |>> |> | me to do. Gin
| |>> |>
| |>> |> Well, (turn on DrWatson now, but) best finish up with Terhune in
| |>> |> all threads first, I think-- I'd rather he battle with MEB than
| |>> |> me! He isn't quite as mellow as he had once become anymore!
| |>> |> After that, as I posted elsewhere...
| |>> |>
| |>> |> I wouldn't necessarily give up on the avast! proxy yet.
| |>> |>
| |>> |> (a) Was it working until you set something in Belkin?
| |>> |> (b) Can you remember anything more about the fatal exception,
| |>> |> like did it mention any programs & what was the last thing
| |>> |> you clicked before it happened?
| |>> |> (c) Did you ever have one like that before setting avast!'s
| |>> |> proxy?
| |>> |>
| |>> | program faults with DrWatson
| |>> |>
| |>> |>
| |>> |> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| |>> |> | news:ODYJ3lqwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| |>> |> |> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| |>> |> |> | OK, so Web Shield doesn't work on Win98 without the proxy.
| |>> |> |> | Didn't know that.
| |>> |> |>
| |>> |> |> That appears to be so. Athough it appears to involve sites
| |>> |> |> only -- the stuff that begins "http:" & probably "https:" &
| |>> |> |> possibly others -- there could be multiples involved when
| |>> |> |> clicking a single URL. I can see 4 http:'s flash by in
| |>> |> |> pop-ups when I click that avast! URL I posted earlier-- & the
| |>> |> |> Scanned Count increased from 17 to 22!
| |>> |> |>
| |>> |> |> TIFs STILL were scanned (seen in pop-ups) as they entered,
| |>> |> |> even with Web Shield paused. Scanned Count did not increased
| |>> |> |> for them.
| |>> |> |>
| |>> |> |> | Well, IMO, that ain't worth it.
| |>> |> |>
| |>> |> |> Well, it DOES seem to improve virus detection at that Eicar
| |>> |> |> site, as I said. Checking again (& this is a bit different
| |>> |> |> from first remembered)...
| |>> |> |>
| |>> |> |> With Web Shield PAUSED... none of the 8 clicked at Eicar
| |>> |> |> sound an alarm. The download box is offered instead, & the
| |>> |> |> download is allowed. The downloaded file has to be R-Clkd &
| |>> |> |> scanned or clicked to run or open for avast! to detect a
| |>> |> |> virus.
| |>> |> |>
| |>> |> |> With Web Shield RESUMED... the all 4 HTTP viruses get
| |>> |> |> detected as soon as they are clicked at the site. The
| |>> |> |> download box is not offererd. All 4 HTTPS viruses behaved as
| |>> |> |> with WS paused.
| |>> |> |>
| |>> |> |> Now, I see (Web Shield on or off), the HTTPS eicar.com.txt
| |>> |> |> file will open when clicked. Even downloaded, it also will
| |>> |> |> open when clicked. For a virus to be detected-- it must be
| |>> |> |> R-Clkd & explicitly scanned! SO... avast! isn't perfect! (The
| |>> |> |> HTTP text file will get detected when clicked at the site--
| |>> |> |> usually! If it stops detecting that one, clear TIFs of all
| |>> |> |> things Eicar. Sheesh.)
| |>> |> |>
| |>> |> |> For all of that, it didn't seem to matter whether On-Access
| |>> |> |> Scan was set to Normal or to High.
| |>> |> |>
| |>> |> |> | It can just sit there and
| |>> |> |> | do nothing so long as it stays out of the way. What I don't
| |>> |> |> | get is that it causes Ginny problems, even with no firewall
| |>> |> |> | installed on Windows (just the Belkin router.) Unless maybe
| |>> |> |> | I've undone enough now that it WILL just sit there and do
| |>> |> |> | nothing. I can't get her to test it, <g>.
| |>> |> |>
| |>> |> |> I see she's done a bit of testing but had a crash. I'll try to
| |>> |> |> figure it, if I can.
| |>> |> |>
| |>> |> |> | --
| |>> |> |> | Gary S. Terhune
| |>> |> |> | MS-MVP Shell/User
| |>> |> |> | www.grystmill.com
| |>> |> |> |
| |>> |> |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| |>> |> |> | news:uyun5JewIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| |>> |> |> |> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| |>> |> |> |> | As noted, the problem was solved. And if we want to
| |>> |> |> |> | enable WebShield, Brian A. has provided the support
| |>> |> |> |> | pages that explain how to do it in Windows 98 (different
| |>> |> |> |> | from later versions.) Not sure WHICH one of these
| |>> |> |> |> | threads it's in, but perhaps you could find those
| |>> |> |> |> | messages. Brian didn't contribute TOO much to the
| |>> |> |> |> | threads, so it should be easy to find them.
| |>> |> |> |> |
| |>> |> |> |> | All I know is that I installed Avast! on a relatively new
| |>> |> |> |> | install of 98, didn't have to change the firewall
| |>> |> |> |> | settings in my router (don't have any other firewall),
| |>> |> |> |> | didn't have to do any of the things suggested in the
| |>> |> |> |> | articles cited by Brian, and it is causing no problems.
| |>> |> |> |> | Never HAVE had to disable the WebShield, that I can
| |>> |> |> |> | recall, and I've not only been using it for at least a
| |>> |> |> |> | few years, but have installed it on numerous machines
| |>> |> |> |> | with WebShield enabled (including several '9x machines)
| |>> |> |> |> | and had no problems. Which just goes to show you that it
| |>> |> |> |> | ain't all that simple.
| |>> |> |> |>
| |>> |> |> |> You didn't set the WebShield HTTP proxy...?...
| |>> |> |> |> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869
| |>> |> |> |>
| |>> |> |> |> I've implemented that, as it seemed to improve avast!'s
| |>> |> |> |> performance at...
| |>> |> |> |> http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm
| |>> |> |> |> (Although, STILL it didn't appear to be as perfect as
| |>> |> |> |> McAfee was, which reported a visus for all 8 of the bogus
| |>> |> |> |> viruses there when clicked. With avast!, some of the
| |>> |> |> |> double-zips had to be opened after download before an
| |>> |> |> |> alarm would sound-- not simply clicked for download. )
| |>> |> |> |>
| |>> |> |> |> So...
| |>> |> |> |>
| |>> |> |> |> (a) Click the avast! icon in the tray.
| |>> |> |> |> (b) Select Web Shield in the Installed Providers box.
| |>> |> |> |>
| |>> |> |> |> What shows for Scanned Count, & does it increase for each
| |>> |> |> |> site you visit? Also...
| |>> |> |> |>
| |>> |> |> |> (c) Click the Customise button.
| |>> |> |> |> (d) Basic tab-- ensure both items are checked.
| |>> |> |> |> (e) Web Scanning tab-- ensure Scan All Files is bolted.
| |>> |> |> |> (f) Advanced tab-- Check Show Detailed Info on
| |>> |> |> |> Performed Action
| |>> |> |> |>
| |>> |> |> |> Now, do you see a TON of HTTP's & TIFs getting scanned in
| |>> |> |> |> pop-up windows at the bottom of your screen for each site
| |>> |> |> |> you visit?
| |>> |> |> |>
| |>> |> |> |> One thing about that HTTP Proxy...
| |>> |> |> |>
| |>> |> |> |> On the one occasion I temporarily uninstalled an earlier
| |>> |> |> |> sub-version of avast!, the setting was not automatically
| |>> |> |> |> undone. That makes sense, since it was manually
| |>> |> |> |> implemented in the first place on this Win98 machine-- but
| |>> |> |> |> one must remember to undo it manually (I guess), in the
| |>> |> |> |> event one wants to uninstall avast! for good. If not
| |>> |> |> |> undone, I'm thinking the NET won't work!
| |>> |> |> |>
| |>> |> |> |>
| |>> |> |> |> | --
| |>> |> |> |> | Gary S. Terhune
| |>> |> |> |> | MS-MVP Shell/User
| |>> |> |> |> | www.grystmill.com
| |>> |>
| |>> |> ...snip
| |>> |> --
| |>> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
| |>> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
| |>> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
| |>> |> Should things get worse after this,
| |>> |> PCR
| |>> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
| |>>
| |>> --
| |>> Thanks or Good Luck,
| |>> There may be humor in this post, and,
| |>> Naturally, you will not sue,
| |>> Should things get worse after this,
| |>> PCR
| |>> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net
|
|
 
M

MEB

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Do the startup review, she has some things which could be removed..

How much free memory is left/what's the load? Don't see a post with that
info..

--
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--
_________

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:%23EcxUQGxIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| | <BG> The lady has plenty of practice uninstalling and installing
| | Avast!, PCR! With lots of expert help. Besides, if she has an older
| | version, it can easily be updated using the taskbar icon's menu. I
| | still use setupeng from 1/27/07. In fact, I *think* it automatically
| | updates during install but I can't be sure. Anyway, there are two
| | update choices in the menu, for the engine and for the defs.
|
| True, but she reports crashes when clicking avast! icons. Might be best
| to un/re-install in this circumstance, if she won't crash trying.
|
| | As for using the proxy, seems to me that doing so already caused
| | problems for Ginny, but I can't recall for sure. Still, IMO, if an
| | app needs a proxy it should deal with it during Setup. Otherwise, it
| | definitely won't get UNdealt with during an uninstall, and that
| | eventuality might cause all kinds of grief. WebShield's a secondary
| | layer of idiot-proofing, er, defense, anyway. Besides, the lady seems
| | to be a safe surfer.
|
| I would want to try just once more (because it improves the Eicar
| testing), especially as the current install isn't a good one & might be
| malfunctioning at the proxy setting for that reason.
|
| I have to go now, will get back tomorrow.
|
| | --
| | Gary S. Terhune
| | MS-MVP Shell/User
| | www.grystmill.com
| |
| |
| | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| | news:ePz6oaFxIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| |>I see where you posted your Startup Group. It will take some study for
| |> me to decipher. In the meantime-- absolutely clicking avast! should
| |> not do the things you say. You must go to Add/Remove Programs &
| |> uninstall it...
| |>
| |> (a) "START button, Find, F/F, SetupEng"
| |>
| |> That is the avast! raw download. How many do you have?
| |> Delete all but the latest, going by Modification date.
| |>
| |> (b) "START, Settings, Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs"
| |> (c) Double-Click avast! Anti-virus in the list.
| |> Avast! Antivirus Setup will open.
| |> (d) Click the Update Components icon.
| |> Is the version showing... 4.8.1201?
| |> (e) Click the Uninstall button, & do the uninstall.
| |>
| |> (f) If the version was less than mine, delete your remaining
| |> SetupEng.exe to avoid confusing & save disk space--
| |> & go download the new one...
| |> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
| |>
| |> (g) Click your latest SetupEng.exe to do the install.
| |>
| |> Now, can you click around in avast! & not crash? If so, we may
| |> proceed with the settings. Let's try the proxy again...
| |> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869
| |> Since you have a LAN, do the one that involves the LAN only.
| |>
| |> ......Quote instructions when LAN is involved...................
| |> Proxy server settings for Internet Explorer when using broadband
| |> and/or local area network (LAN) Internet connection
| |>
| |> 1. Start Internet Explorer.
| |> 2. Select Tools ® Internet Options... from the main menu.
| |> 3. Switch to page Connections.
| |> 4. Click on the LAN Settings... button.
| |> 5. Check the option Use a proxy server for your LAN
| |> 6. Write localhost into the Address field (alternatively, you can
| |> enter IP address 127.0.0.1, which is the same as localhost).
| |> 7. Enter 12080 into the Port field.
| |> 8. Confirm with OK button.
| |> .......EOQ instructions when LAN is involved......................
| |>
| |>
| |> --
| |> Thanks or Good Luck,
| |> There may be humor in this post, and,
| |> Naturally, you will not sue,
| |> Should things get worse after this,
| |> PCR
| |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
| |> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
| |> news:4842fe24$0$15204$607ed4bc@cv.net...
| |> | Without Web Shield. I had a hard time opening it last night to
| |> | run a scan. "An attempt was made to load, ...." when I close that
| |> | out. the splash screen is frozen there and I have to do a ctl alt
| |> | dlt to 'end task' , then the scanner is ther with a simple
| |> | interface. I can not close it with the x. Again I have to run a
| |> | ctl-alt-dlt. to end task. So I guess it is not running as smoothly
| |> | as I thought.
| |> |
| |> |
| |> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| |> | news:%23DXhKqAxIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| |> | > "Avast is running smoothly..." Is that WITH the WebShield turned
| |> | > on or without?
| |> | >
| |> | > --
| |> | > Gary S. Terhune
| |> | > MS-MVP Shell/User
| |> | > www.grystmill.com
| |> | >
| |> | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
| |> | > news:48424910$0$25060$607ed4bc@cv.net...
| |> | > > Brian asked: What is the exact make/model of the router?
| |> | > >
| |> | > > Answer: BELKIN Model # F5D5230-4
| |> | > >
| |> | > > Brian A said :if anything you may need to forward the port
| |> | > > that Avast uses in order
| |> | > > to allow it through.
| |> | > >
| |> | > > Reply: Avast is having no problems. Running smoothly. Thanks.
| |> | > >
| |> | > > Ginny
| |> | > >
| |> | > >
| |> | > >
| |> | > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
| |> | > > news:uahHmV6wIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| |> | > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
| |> | > >> news:4840bb81$0$25061$607ed4bc@cv.net...
| |> | > >> >I did not set anything in Belkin. Perhaps I should have gone
| |> | > >> >to my site and
| |> | > >> >entered
| |> | > >> > the Proxy settings for Avast.
| |> | > >>
| |> | > >> It's not a site, it's the routers web based configuration.
| |> | > >> I don't believe
| |> | > >> there is any proxy setting needed at all in the routers
| |> | > >> configuration, .
| |> | > >>>
| |> | > >> --
| |> | > >>
| |> | > >>
| |> | > >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
| |> | > >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
| |> | > >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
| |> | > >>
| |> | > >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
| |> | > >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net
|
|
 
C

CdLSRN

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

I have 3.46 GB freed up now.
Gary and I uninstalled and installed the Avast Virus Scanner this evening. Now it's
running fine. opens fine. I don't need Web scanning. I am working on the startup
items. I disabled some that I knew could be. List of what's running now, below.

ashMaiSv Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\ashmaisv.exe
POINTER Registry (Machine Run) point32.exe
Change Lines Registry (Machine Run) C:\chngline.exe
LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Run) Rundll32.exe
powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
ScanRegistry Registry (Machine Run) c:\windows\scanregw.exe /autorun
SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe
StillImageMonitor Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
SmcService Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE -startgui
mdac_runonce Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\runonce.exe
avast! Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
HP Port Resolver Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpbpro.exe
HP Status Server Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpboid.exe
KB918547 Registry (Machine Service) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB918547\KB918547.EXE
KB891711 Registry (Machine Service) c:\windows\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE
PPRT Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program
Files\CA\SharedComponents\PPRT\bin\ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe
LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Service) Rundll32.exe
powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
SmcService Registry (Machine Service) C:\PROGRAM FILES\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE



"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uO1AXSHxIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Do the startup review, she has some things which could be removed..
>
> How much free memory is left/what's the load? Don't see a post with that
> info..
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:%23EcxUQGxIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> | | <BG> The lady has plenty of practice uninstalling and installing
> | | Avast!, PCR! With lots of expert help. Besides, if she has an older
> | | version, it can easily be updated using the taskbar icon's menu. I
> | | still use setupeng from 1/27/07. In fact, I *think* it automatically
> | | updates during install but I can't be sure. Anyway, there are two
> | | update choices in the menu, for the engine and for the defs.
> |
> | True, but she reports crashes when clicking avast! icons. Might be best
> | to un/re-install in this circumstance, if she won't crash trying.
> |
> | | As for using the proxy, seems to me that doing so already caused
> | | problems for Ginny, but I can't recall for sure. Still, IMO, if an
> | | app needs a proxy it should deal with it during Setup. Otherwise, it
> | | definitely won't get UNdealt with during an uninstall, and that
> | | eventuality might cause all kinds of grief. WebShield's a secondary
> | | layer of idiot-proofing, er, defense, anyway. Besides, the lady seems
> | | to be a safe surfer.
> |
> | I would want to try just once more (because it improves the Eicar
> | testing), especially as the current install isn't a good one & might be
> | malfunctioning at the proxy setting for that reason.
> |
> | I have to go now, will get back tomorrow.
> |
> | | --
> | | Gary S. Terhune
> | | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | | www.grystmill.com
> | |
> | |
> | | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | | news:ePz6oaFxIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | |>I see where you posted your Startup Group. It will take some study for
> | |> me to decipher. In the meantime-- absolutely clicking avast! should
> | |> not do the things you say. You must go to Add/Remove Programs &
> | |> uninstall it...
> | |>
> | |> (a) "START button, Find, F/F, SetupEng"
> | |>
> | |> That is the avast! raw download. How many do you have?
> | |> Delete all but the latest, going by Modification date.
> | |>
> | |> (b) "START, Settings, Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs"
> | |> (c) Double-Click avast! Anti-virus in the list.
> | |> Avast! Antivirus Setup will open.
> | |> (d) Click the Update Components icon.
> | |> Is the version showing... 4.8.1201?
> | |> (e) Click the Uninstall button, & do the uninstall.
> | |>
> | |> (f) If the version was less than mine, delete your remaining
> | |> SetupEng.exe to avoid confusing & save disk space--
> | |> & go download the new one...
> | |> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
> | |>
> | |> (g) Click your latest SetupEng.exe to do the install.
> | |>
> | |> Now, can you click around in avast! & not crash? If so, we may
> | |> proceed with the settings. Let's try the proxy again...
> | |> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869
> | |> Since you have a LAN, do the one that involves the LAN only.
> | |>
> | |> ......Quote instructions when LAN is involved...................
> | |> Proxy server settings for Internet Explorer when using broadband
> | |> and/or local area network (LAN) Internet connection
> | |>
> | |> 1. Start Internet Explorer.
> | |> 2. Select Tools ® Internet Options... from the main menu.
> | |> 3. Switch to page Connections.
> | |> 4. Click on the LAN Settings... button.
> | |> 5. Check the option Use a proxy server for your LAN
> | |> 6. Write localhost into the Address field (alternatively, you can
> | |> enter IP address 127.0.0.1, which is the same as localhost).
> | |> 7. Enter 12080 into the Port field.
> | |> 8. Confirm with OK button.
> | |> .......EOQ instructions when LAN is involved......................
> | |>
> | |>
> | |> --
> | |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> | |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> | |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> | |> Should things get worse after this,
> | |> PCR
> | |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | |> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> | |> news:4842fe24$0$15204$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> | |> | Without Web Shield. I had a hard time opening it last night to
> | |> | run a scan. "An attempt was made to load, ...." when I close that
> | |> | out. the splash screen is frozen there and I have to do a ctl alt
> | |> | dlt to 'end task' , then the scanner is ther with a simple
> | |> | interface. I can not close it with the x. Again I have to run a
> | |> | ctl-alt-dlt. to end task. So I guess it is not running as smoothly
> | |> | as I thought.
> | |> |
> | |> |
> | |> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | |> | news:%23DXhKqAxIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | |> | > "Avast is running smoothly..." Is that WITH the WebShield turned
> | |> | > on or without?
> | |> | >
> | |> | > --
> | |> | > Gary S. Terhune
> | |> | > MS-MVP Shell/User
> | |> | > www.grystmill.com
> | |> | >
> | |> | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> | |> | > news:48424910$0$25060$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> | |> | > > Brian asked: What is the exact make/model of the router?
> | |> | > >
> | |> | > > Answer: BELKIN Model # F5D5230-4
> | |> | > >
> | |> | > > Brian A said :if anything you may need to forward the port
> | |> | > > that Avast uses in order
> | |> | > > to allow it through.
> | |> | > >
> | |> | > > Reply: Avast is having no problems. Running smoothly. Thanks.
> | |> | > >
> | |> | > > Ginny
> | |> | > >
> | |> | > >
> | |> | > >
> | |> | > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> | |> | > > news:uahHmV6wIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | |> | > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> | |> | > >> news:4840bb81$0$25061$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> | |> | > >> >I did not set anything in Belkin. Perhaps I should have gone
> | |> | > >> >to my site and
> | |> | > >> >entered
> | |> | > >> > the Proxy settings for Avast.
> | |> | > >>
> | |> | > >> It's not a site, it's the routers web based configuration.
> | |> | > >> I don't believe
> | |> | > >> there is any proxy setting needed at all in the routers
> | |> | > >> configuration, .
> | |> | > >>>
> | |> | > >> --
> | |> | > >>
> | |> | > >>
> | |> | > >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
> | |> | > >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> | |> | > >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> | |> | > >>
> | |> | > >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
> | |> | > >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> |
> | --
> | Thanks or Good Luck,
> | There may be humor in this post, and,
> | Naturally, you will not sue,
> | Should things get worse after this,
> | PCR
> | pcrrcp@netzero.net
> |
> |
>
>
 
C

CdLSRN

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

My open space is 3.46 GB.

I deleted the hp string after run= in Win ini but it did not get rid of that string
"unknown caused, etc". Here are Dr. Watson reports I just ran:


-----------------
Windows KB891711 component has altered Windows system files.

Module Name: KB891711.EXE
Description: Windows KB891711 component
Version: 4.10.2223
Product: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation

--------------------
Adobe Type Manager has altered Windows system files.

Module Name: ATMSYS.DRV
Description: Adobe Type Manager
Version: R v4.00-32S058G06NN
Product: Adobe Type Manager
Manufacturer: Adobe Systems Incorporated

--------------------
<unknown> has altered Windows system files.

Module Name: <unknown>

--------------------
Windows KB918547 EXE component has altered Windows system files.

Module Name: KB918547.EXE
Description: Windows KB918547 EXE component
Version: 4.10.2224
Product: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation

It will take some time to go through all those startup items but I disabled the ones
that I knew could be done safely. Here are the ones left running.

ashMaiSv Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\ashmaisv.exe
POINTER Registry (Machine Run) point32.exe
Change Lines Registry (Machine Run) C:\chngline.exe
LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Run) Rundll32.exe
powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
ScanRegistry Registry (Machine Run) c:\windows\scanregw.exe /autorun
SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe
StillImageMonitor Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
SmcService Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE -startgui
mdac_runonce Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\runonce.exe
avast! Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
HP Port Resolver Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpbpro.exe
HP Status Server Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpboid.exe
KB918547 Registry (Machine Service) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB918547\KB918547.EXE
KB891711 Registry (Machine Service) c:\windows\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE
PPRT Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program
Files\CA\SharedComponents\PPRT\bin\ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe
LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Service) Rundll32.exe
powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
SmcService Registry (Machine Service) C:\PROGRAM FILES\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE



"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:eqT1sMGxIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> CdLSRN wrote:
> | My Startup group:
>
> Well, this site...
> http://www.pcreview.co.uk/startup/
> ...seems to be fairly excellent! Copy/pste each of your startup programs
> into there to know what they do & whether they might be safely removed.
> Get back with any further questions. I did the first two...
>
> | Microsoft Office Startup Group "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
> | Office\Office\OSA9.EXE" -b -l
>
> That comes in with Microsoft Office Suite to improve performance. You
> don't have the OSA9.EXE that is a virus, because yours is in the right
> folder it should be in. The site is recommending it be removed, anyhow,
> for being a resource hog. It does have this note, though...
>
> Note - if you make use of the Microsoft Office Shortcut Bar outside an
> office program this application will need to be enabled for it to show.
>
> If you want to remove it, look in Office Suites various menus to see
> whether it has an option to turn that feature off. Otherwise, you would
> uncheck that item at "START, Run, MSConfig, Startup tab"-- but Terhune
> is against doing it there!
>
> | run Win.ini hpfsched
>
> That one is showing up in your DrWatson report. The site says it's just
> reminding you to clean your printer cartridges. To remove it...
>
> (a) "START button, Run, Win.ini"
> (b) Remove "hpfsched" from the "run=",
> so that it is now just... run=
>
> Doing so "might" get rid of that <unknown>-- IIRC from something glee
> said long ago!
>
> | SSBkgdUpdate Registry (Machine Run) "c:\Program Files\Common
> | Files\Scansoft Shared\SSBkgdUpdate\SSBkgdupdate.exe" -Embedding -boot
>
> Look uup-- SSBkgdupdate.exe. That is, copy/paste it into the requestor
> at that site. Report back, if you can't figure what to do.
>
> | OpwareSE4 Registry (Machine Run) "c:\Program
> | Files\ScanSoft\OmniPageSE4.0\OpwareSE4.exe"
>
> Look up-- OpwareSE4.exe.
>
> | ashMaiSv Registry (Machine Run)
> | C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\ashmaisv.exe
>
> That is one of the avast! startups & will be replaced when you do that
> un/re-install. It will be necessary to keep this one.
>
> | POINTER Registry (Machine Run) point32.exe
>
> Look up-- point32.exe.
>
> | Change Lines Registry (Machine Run) C:\chngline.exe
>
> Look up-- chngline.exe.
>
> | LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Run) Rundll32.exe
> | powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
>
> That one you must keep. It is a normal MS program that loads & exits
> quickly during boot.
>
> | ScanRegistry Registry (Machine Run) c:\windows\scanregw.exe /autorun
> | SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe
>
> That one too must be kept. It does your Registry backup at boot.
>
> | StillImageMonitor Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
>
> Look up-- STIMON.EXE.
>
> | SmcService Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
> | -startgui
>
> | mdac_runonce Registry (Machine Run)
> | C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\runonce.exe
>
> Look up-- runonce.exe. It actually is an MS program-- don't delete the
> program! Yours SHOULD be deactivated from the Startup Group, though,
> going by that site. Uncheck it in MSConfig, if you can find no other
> way.
>
> | avast! Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program Files\Alwil
> | Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
>
> That also is avast!.
>
> | HP Port Resolver Registry (Machine
> | Service) $SYSTEM\hpbpro.exe
>
> Look up-- hpbpro.exe.
>
> | HP Status Server
> | Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpboid.exe
>
> | winmodem Registry (Machine Service) WINMODEM.101\wmexe.exe
>
> Look up-- wmexe.exe.
>
> | KB918547 Registry (Machine Service)
> | C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB918547\KB918547.EXE KB891711
>
> That is an MS critical update. Keep.
>
> | Registry (Machine
> | Service) c:\windows\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE
>
> Same here-- keep this critical update. Only Bill in Co. has permission
> not to!
>
> | PPRT Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program
> | Files\CA\SharedComponents\PPRT\bin\ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe
>
> Look this one up-- ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe.
>
> | LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Service) Rundll32.exe
> | powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
>
> Keep-- it looks like a duplicate, but it is not.
>
> | SmcService Registry (Machine Service) C:\PROGRAM
> | FILES\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
>
> Look up-- SMC.EXE.
>
> |
> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:Oxn$3kCxIHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> |> CdLSRN wrote:
> |> | I'm not quite sure where you want me to respond but here I am. As
> |> | far as Dr. Watson:
> |> | --------------------
> |> | <unknown> has altered Windows system files.
> |> | Module Name: <unknown>
> |> | --------------------
> |> | That entry has been in Dr. Watson, as I recall for years. Nothing
> |> | new.
> |> |
> |> | I ran registry checker and it said "No errors found".
> |> |
> |> | Thank you for telling me how to do a system restore. My question
> |> | is, why didn't someone tell me that when I couldn't get online?
> |> | Wouldn't that have solved my problem? Ginny
> |>
> |> I don't recall suggesting a system restore or even a registry
> |> restore to you for this specific problem. It could come in handy in
> |> the future. You should get something that does a full system backup.
> |> Nothing very useful for that comes with Win98. I use...
> |>
> |> http://www.bootitng.com/ 's BootIt NG, has a variety of backup
> |> capabilities & works with all OS: Copy partition(s) to HDD, or Image
> |> to HDD or to CD or DVD. Create, move, shrink or expand partitions
> |> without data loss. Multi-boot too. To install & use beyond 30 days,
> |> $34.95.
> |>
> |> ..., but there are alternatives that others use & like.
> |>
> |> As far as that <unknown> in your DrWatson report (yep, this was
> |> where to respond for that), I wouldn't want to have it, but frankly
> |> I did live with one for a while I think. It may go away on its own
> |> some day when you uninstall some package or program. As long as it
> |> is not mentioned in a crash report, probably you can live with it.
> |> Keep DrWatson in the Tray for that report on your next crash.
> |>
> |> One way to research it is to boot to Safe Mode (the Startup Group
> |> won't start in Safe Mode) or to use "START, Run, MSConfig" to turn
> |> off the Startup Group & boot to Normal Mode. If it drops out of that
> |> DrWatson Diagnosis window, then it is something in the Startup Group
> |> doing it. Then, you turn half of them back on, reboot, & see whether
> |> it's returned-- & so on. But it may not really be worth all this
> |> trouble, since you've had it forever without incident. OK-- glad all
> |> else seems to be just fine. Maybe post your Starup Group, as I
> |> suggested somewhere in this thread, for a quick examination.
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
 
M

MEB

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

I'm sorry, didn't want to interrupt, they are helping [too many cooks
thing]. Just was wondering what your actual physical memory size was and how
much was free, glad though, that you now have some free hard drive space..
They will likely pickup later today.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:48439970$0$25024$607ed4bc@cv.net...
| I have 3.46 GB freed up now.
| Gary and I uninstalled and installed the Avast Virus Scanner this evening.
Now it's
| running fine. opens fine. I don't need Web scanning. I am working on the
startup
| items. I disabled some that I knew could be. List of what's running now,
below.
|
| ashMaiSv Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\ashmaisv.exe
| POINTER Registry (Machine Run) point32.exe
| Change Lines Registry (Machine Run) C:\chngline.exe
| LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Run) Rundll32.exe
| powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
| ScanRegistry Registry (Machine Run) c:\windows\scanregw.exe /autorun
| SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe
| StillImageMonitor Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
| SmcService Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE -startgui
| mdac_runonce Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\runonce.exe
| avast! Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program Files\Alwil
Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
| HP Port Resolver Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpbpro.exe
| HP Status Server Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpboid.exe
| KB918547 Registry (Machine Service)
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB918547\KB918547.EXE
| KB891711 Registry (Machine Service)
c:\windows\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE
| PPRT Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program
| Files\CA\SharedComponents\PPRT\bin\ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe
| LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Service) Rundll32.exe
| powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
| SmcService Registry (Machine Service) C:\PROGRAM FILES\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
|
|
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:uO1AXSHxIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > Do the startup review, she has some things which could be removed..
| >
| > How much free memory is left/what's the load? Don't see a post with
that
| > info..
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
| >
| > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > news:%23EcxUQGxIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| > | | <BG> The lady has plenty of practice uninstalling and installing
| > | | Avast!, PCR! With lots of expert help. Besides, if she has an older
| > | | version, it can easily be updated using the taskbar icon's menu. I
| > | | still use setupeng from 1/27/07. In fact, I *think* it automatically
| > | | updates during install but I can't be sure. Anyway, there are two
| > | | update choices in the menu, for the engine and for the defs.
| > |
| > | True, but she reports crashes when clicking avast! icons. Might be
best
| > | to un/re-install in this circumstance, if she won't crash trying.
| > |
| > | | As for using the proxy, seems to me that doing so already caused
| > | | problems for Ginny, but I can't recall for sure. Still, IMO, if an
| > | | app needs a proxy it should deal with it during Setup. Otherwise, it
| > | | definitely won't get UNdealt with during an uninstall, and that
| > | | eventuality might cause all kinds of grief. WebShield's a secondary
| > | | layer of idiot-proofing, er, defense, anyway. Besides, the lady
seems
| > | | to be a safe surfer.
| > |
| > | I would want to try just once more (because it improves the Eicar
| > | testing), especially as the current install isn't a good one & might
be
| > | malfunctioning at the proxy setting for that reason.
| > |
| > | I have to go now, will get back tomorrow.
| > |
| > | | --
| > | | Gary S. Terhune
| > | | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | | www.grystmill.com
| > | |
| > | |
| > | | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > | | news:ePz6oaFxIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | |>I see where you posted your Startup Group. It will take some study
for
| > | |> me to decipher. In the meantime-- absolutely clicking avast! should
| > | |> not do the things you say. You must go to Add/Remove Programs &
| > | |> uninstall it...
| > | |>
| > | |> (a) "START button, Find, F/F, SetupEng"
| > | |>
| > | |> That is the avast! raw download. How many do you have?
| > | |> Delete all but the latest, going by Modification date.
| > | |>
| > | |> (b) "START, Settings, Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs"
| > | |> (c) Double-Click avast! Anti-virus in the list.
| > | |> Avast! Antivirus Setup will open.
| > | |> (d) Click the Update Components icon.
| > | |> Is the version showing... 4.8.1201?
| > | |> (e) Click the Uninstall button, & do the uninstall.
| > | |>
| > | |> (f) If the version was less than mine, delete your remaining
| > | |> SetupEng.exe to avoid confusing & save disk space--
| > | |> & go download the new one...
| > | |> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
| > | |>
| > | |> (g) Click your latest SetupEng.exe to do the install.
| > | |>
| > | |> Now, can you click around in avast! & not crash? If so, we may
| > | |> proceed with the settings. Let's try the proxy again...
| > | |> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869
| > | |> Since you have a LAN, do the one that involves the LAN only.
| > | |>
| > | |> ......Quote instructions when LAN is involved...................
| > | |> Proxy server settings for Internet Explorer when using broadband
| > | |> and/or local area network (LAN) Internet connection
| > | |>
| > | |> 1. Start Internet Explorer.
| > | |> 2. Select Tools ® Internet Options... from the main menu.
| > | |> 3. Switch to page Connections.
| > | |> 4. Click on the LAN Settings... button.
| > | |> 5. Check the option Use a proxy server for your LAN
| > | |> 6. Write localhost into the Address field (alternatively, you can
| > | |> enter IP address 127.0.0.1, which is the same as localhost).
| > | |> 7. Enter 12080 into the Port field.
| > | |> 8. Confirm with OK button.
| > | |> .......EOQ instructions when LAN is involved......................
| > | |>
| > | |>
| > | |> --
| > | |> Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | |> There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | |> Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | |> Should things get worse after this,
| > | |> PCR
| > | |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > | |> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
| > | |> news:4842fe24$0$15204$607ed4bc@cv.net...
| > | |> | Without Web Shield. I had a hard time opening it last night to
| > | |> | run a scan. "An attempt was made to load, ...." when I close that
| > | |> | out. the splash screen is frozen there and I have to do a ctl
alt
| > | |> | dlt to 'end task' , then the scanner is ther with a simple
| > | |> | interface. I can not close it with the x. Again I have to run a
| > | |> | ctl-alt-dlt. to end task. So I guess it is not running as
smoothly
| > | |> | as I thought.
| > | |> |
| > | |> |
| > | |> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | |> | news:%23DXhKqAxIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | |> | > "Avast is running smoothly..." Is that WITH the WebShield
turned
| > | |> | > on or without?
| > | |> | >
| > | |> | > --
| > | |> | > Gary S. Terhune
| > | |> | > MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | |> | > www.grystmill.com
| > | |> | >
| > | |> | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
| > | |> | > news:48424910$0$25060$607ed4bc@cv.net...
| > | |> | > > Brian asked: What is the exact make/model of the router?
| > | |> | > >
| > | |> | > > Answer: BELKIN Model # F5D5230-4
| > | |> | > >
| > | |> | > > Brian A said :if anything you may need to forward the port
| > | |> | > > that Avast uses in order
| > | |> | > > to allow it through.
| > | |> | > >
| > | |> | > > Reply: Avast is having no problems. Running smoothly.
Thanks.
| > | |> | > >
| > | |> | > > Ginny
| > | |> | > >
| > | |> | > >
| > | |> | > >
| > | |> | > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
| > | |> | > > news:uahHmV6wIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | |> | > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
| > | |> | > >> news:4840bb81$0$25061$607ed4bc@cv.net...
| > | |> | > >> >I did not set anything in Belkin. Perhaps I should have
gone
| > | |> | > >> >to my site and
| > | |> | > >> >entered
| > | |> | > >> > the Proxy settings for Avast.
| > | |> | > >>
| > | |> | > >> It's not a site, it's the routers web based configuration.
| > | |> | > >> I don't believe
| > | |> | > >> there is any proxy setting needed at all in the routers
| > | |> | > >> configuration, .
| > | |> | > >>>
| > | |> | > >> --
| > | |> | > >>
| > | |> | > >>
| > | |> | > >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
| > | |> | > >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
| > | |> | > >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
| > | |> | > >>
| > | |> | > >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts:
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
| > | |> | > >> How to ask a question:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
| > |
| > | --
| > | Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | Should things get worse after this,
| > | PCR
| > | pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
C

CdLSRN

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

I am still working on it. I got sidetracked with growing files that Apple left in my
computer.
Also, I configured a Dell with XP and the only high end machine they would let me
put XP on was the XPS 630. Thank goodness I found out how MASSIVE that tower is. 22"
long, 19" high, and 8" wide. I cancelled the order. So until I get around to getting
another, I better get this one in better shape and pare down to release more disc
space. Gin
"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:484399e4$0$25066$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> My open space is 3.46 GB.
>
> I deleted the hp string after run= in Win ini but it did not get rid of that string
> "unknown caused, etc". Here are Dr. Watson reports I just ran:
>
>
> -----------------
> Windows KB891711 component has altered Windows system files.
>
> Module Name: KB891711.EXE
> Description: Windows KB891711 component
> Version: 4.10.2223
> Product: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
> Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation
>
> --------------------
> Adobe Type Manager has altered Windows system files.
>
> Module Name: ATMSYS.DRV
> Description: Adobe Type Manager
> Version: R v4.00-32S058G06NN
> Product: Adobe Type Manager
> Manufacturer: Adobe Systems Incorporated
>
> --------------------
> <unknown> has altered Windows system files.
>
> Module Name: <unknown>
>
> --------------------
> Windows KB918547 EXE component has altered Windows system files.
>
> Module Name: KB918547.EXE
> Description: Windows KB918547 EXE component
> Version: 4.10.2224
> Product: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
> Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation
>
> It will take some time to go through all those startup items but I disabled the

ones
> that I knew could be done safely. Here are the ones left running.
>
> ashMaiSv Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\ashmaisv.exe
> POINTER Registry (Machine Run) point32.exe
> Change Lines Registry (Machine Run) C:\chngline.exe
> LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Run) Rundll32.exe
> powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
> ScanRegistry Registry (Machine Run) c:\windows\scanregw.exe /autorun
> SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe
> StillImageMonitor Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
> SmcService Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE -startgui
> mdac_runonce Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\runonce.exe
> avast! Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program Files\Alwil

Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
> HP Port Resolver Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpbpro.exe
> HP Status Server Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpboid.exe
> KB918547 Registry (Machine Service) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB918547\KB918547.EXE
> KB891711 Registry (Machine Service) c:\windows\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE
> PPRT Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program
> Files\CA\SharedComponents\PPRT\bin\ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe
> LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Service) Rundll32.exe
> powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
> SmcService Registry (Machine Service) C:\PROGRAM FILES\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
>
>
>
> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:eqT1sMGxIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > CdLSRN wrote:
> > | My Startup group:
> >
> > Well, this site...
> > http://www.pcreview.co.uk/startup/
> > ...seems to be fairly excellent! Copy/pste each of your startup programs
> > into there to know what they do & whether they might be safely removed.
> > Get back with any further questions. I did the first two...
> >
> > | Microsoft Office Startup Group "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
> > | Office\Office\OSA9.EXE" -b -l
> >
> > That comes in with Microsoft Office Suite to improve performance. You
> > don't have the OSA9.EXE that is a virus, because yours is in the right
> > folder it should be in. The site is recommending it be removed, anyhow,
> > for being a resource hog. It does have this note, though...
> >
> > Note - if you make use of the Microsoft Office Shortcut Bar outside an
> > office program this application will need to be enabled for it to show.
> >
> > If you want to remove it, look in Office Suites various menus to see
> > whether it has an option to turn that feature off. Otherwise, you would
> > uncheck that item at "START, Run, MSConfig, Startup tab"-- but Terhune
> > is against doing it there!
> >
> > | run Win.ini hpfsched
> >
> > That one is showing up in your DrWatson report. The site says it's just
> > reminding you to clean your printer cartridges. To remove it...
> >
> > (a) "START button, Run, Win.ini"
> > (b) Remove "hpfsched" from the "run=",
> > so that it is now just... run=
> >
> > Doing so "might" get rid of that <unknown>-- IIRC from something glee
> > said long ago!
> >
> > | SSBkgdUpdate Registry (Machine Run) "c:\Program Files\Common
> > | Files\Scansoft Shared\SSBkgdUpdate\SSBkgdupdate.exe" -Embedding -boot
> >
> > Look uup-- SSBkgdupdate.exe. That is, copy/paste it into the requestor
> > at that site. Report back, if you can't figure what to do.
> >
> > | OpwareSE4 Registry (Machine Run) "c:\Program
> > | Files\ScanSoft\OmniPageSE4.0\OpwareSE4.exe"
> >
> > Look up-- OpwareSE4.exe.
> >
> > | ashMaiSv Registry (Machine Run)
> > | C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\ashmaisv.exe
> >
> > That is one of the avast! startups & will be replaced when you do that
> > un/re-install. It will be necessary to keep this one.
> >
> > | POINTER Registry (Machine Run) point32.exe
> >
> > Look up-- point32.exe.
> >
> > | Change Lines Registry (Machine Run) C:\chngline.exe
> >
> > Look up-- chngline.exe.
> >
> > | LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Run) Rundll32.exe
> > | powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
> >
> > That one you must keep. It is a normal MS program that loads & exits
> > quickly during boot.
> >
> > | ScanRegistry Registry (Machine Run) c:\windows\scanregw.exe /autorun
> > | SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe
> >
> > That one too must be kept. It does your Registry backup at boot.
> >
> > | StillImageMonitor Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
> >
> > Look up-- STIMON.EXE.
> >
> > | SmcService Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
> > | -startgui
> >
> > | mdac_runonce Registry (Machine Run)
> > | C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\runonce.exe
> >
> > Look up-- runonce.exe. It actually is an MS program-- don't delete the
> > program! Yours SHOULD be deactivated from the Startup Group, though,
> > going by that site. Uncheck it in MSConfig, if you can find no other
> > way.
> >
> > | avast! Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program Files\Alwil
> > | Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
> >
> > That also is avast!.
> >
> > | HP Port Resolver Registry (Machine
> > | Service) $SYSTEM\hpbpro.exe
> >
> > Look up-- hpbpro.exe.
> >
> > | HP Status Server
> > | Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpboid.exe
> >
> > | winmodem Registry (Machine Service) WINMODEM.101\wmexe.exe
> >
> > Look up-- wmexe.exe.
> >
> > | KB918547 Registry (Machine Service)
> > | C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB918547\KB918547.EXE KB891711
> >
> > That is an MS critical update. Keep.
> >
> > | Registry (Machine
> > | Service) c:\windows\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE
> >
> > Same here-- keep this critical update. Only Bill in Co. has permission
> > not to!
> >
> > | PPRT Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program
> > | Files\CA\SharedComponents\PPRT\bin\ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe
> >
> > Look this one up-- ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe.
> >
> > | LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Service) Rundll32.exe
> > | powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
> >
> > Keep-- it looks like a duplicate, but it is not.
> >
> > | SmcService Registry (Machine Service) C:\PROGRAM
> > | FILES\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
> >
> > Look up-- SMC.EXE.
> >
> > |
> > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> > | news:Oxn$3kCxIHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > |> CdLSRN wrote:
> > |> | I'm not quite sure where you want me to respond but here I am. As
> > |> | far as Dr. Watson:
> > |> | --------------------
> > |> | <unknown> has altered Windows system files.
> > |> | Module Name: <unknown>
> > |> | --------------------
> > |> | That entry has been in Dr. Watson, as I recall for years. Nothing
> > |> | new.
> > |> |
> > |> | I ran registry checker and it said "No errors found".
> > |> |
> > |> | Thank you for telling me how to do a system restore. My question
> > |> | is, why didn't someone tell me that when I couldn't get online?
> > |> | Wouldn't that have solved my problem? Ginny
> > |>
> > |> I don't recall suggesting a system restore or even a registry
> > |> restore to you for this specific problem. It could come in handy in
> > |> the future. You should get something that does a full system backup.
> > |> Nothing very useful for that comes with Win98. I use...
> > |>
> > |> http://www.bootitng.com/ 's BootIt NG, has a variety of backup
> > |> capabilities & works with all OS: Copy partition(s) to HDD, or Image
> > |> to HDD or to CD or DVD. Create, move, shrink or expand partitions
> > |> without data loss. Multi-boot too. To install & use beyond 30 days,
> > |> $34.95.
> > |>
> > |> ..., but there are alternatives that others use & like.
> > |>
> > |> As far as that <unknown> in your DrWatson report (yep, this was
> > |> where to respond for that), I wouldn't want to have it, but frankly
> > |> I did live with one for a while I think. It may go away on its own
> > |> some day when you uninstall some package or program. As long as it
> > |> is not mentioned in a crash report, probably you can live with it.
> > |> Keep DrWatson in the Tray for that report on your next crash.
> > |>
> > |> One way to research it is to boot to Safe Mode (the Startup Group
> > |> won't start in Safe Mode) or to use "START, Run, MSConfig" to turn
> > |> off the Startup Group & boot to Normal Mode. If it drops out of that
> > |> DrWatson Diagnosis window, then it is something in the Startup Group
> > |> doing it. Then, you turn half of them back on, reboot, & see whether
> > |> it's returned-- & so on. But it may not really be worth all this
> > |> trouble, since you've had it forever without incident. OK-- glad all
> > |> else seems to be just fine. Maybe post your Starup Group, as I
> > |> suggested somewhere in this thread, for a quick examination.
> >
> > --
> > Thanks or Good Luck,
> > There may be humor in this post, and,
> > Naturally, you will not sue,
> > Should things get worse after this,
> > PCR
> > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> >
> >

>
>
 
P

PCR

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

MEB wrote:
| NO I didn't....

OK. But you 'n Terhune are already arguing about other important stuff
in mile-long threads. So, this couldn't add much more harm, anyhow! :).

| --
| MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| --
| _________
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:umYKylCxIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|| Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|| | What system restore? There is no System Restore in Windows 98.
|| | Unless you make full system backups using a third-party app, the
|| | closest you can get with Win98 is to restore a Registry Backup.
|| | That would not have gotten you back online. Your old firewall was
|| | what kept you offline.
||
|| I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any of the
|| others! Maybe MEB said it!
||
|| | --
|| | Gary S. Terhune
|| | MS-MVP Shell/User
|| | www.grystmill.com
|| |
|| | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
|| | news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...


....snip
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
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PCR

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

CdLSRN wrote:
| My open space is 3.46 GB.

That's really a miraculous recovery of space, considering Terhune said
you started with only a few 100 MBs! I see you are staggled in getting
your XP-irradiated machine & do want to continue fixing this one up in
the meantime. Absolutely, keep at it at that site. It should serve you
well with XP as well. Report back with any questions.

| I deleted the hp string after run= in Win ini but it did not get rid
| of that string "unknown caused, etc".

Oops. I was a little sloppy & hasty thinking hpfsched was in your
DrWatson report & was responsible for the <unknown> in DrWatson. Since
it didn't get rid of it (& even if it had-- we don't know that <unknown>
is actually harming you), it's up to you whether to put hpfsched back
into Win.ini. How good is your memory on cleaning printer cartridges &
stuff?

The thing in your DrWatson that may or may not be responsible for the
<unknown> is ATMSYS.DRV. Here is how to deactivate it...

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/69692
Disabling Adobe Type Manager from Windows

| Here are Dr. Watson reports I
| just ran:
|
|
| -----------------
| Windows KB891711 component has altered Windows system files.
|
| Module Name: KB891711.EXE
| Description: Windows KB891711 component
| Version: 4.10.2223
| Product: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
| Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation
|
| --------------------
| Adobe Type Manager has altered Windows system files.
|
| Module Name: ATMSYS.DRV
| Description: Adobe Type Manager
| Version: R v4.00-32S058G06NN
| Product: Adobe Type Manager
| Manufacturer: Adobe Systems Incorporated
|
| --------------------
| <unknown> has altered Windows system files.
|
| Module Name: <unknown>
|
| --------------------
| Windows KB918547 EXE component has altered Windows system files.
|
| Module Name: KB918547.EXE
| Description: Windows KB918547 EXE component
| Version: 4.10.2224
| Product: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
| Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation
|
| It will take some time to go through all those startup items but I
| disabled the ones that I knew could be done safely. Here are the ones
| left running.
|
| ashMaiSv Registry (Machine Run)
| C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\ashmaisv.exe

| POINTER Registry (Machine Run) point32.exe

| Change Lines Registry (Machine Run) C:\chngline.exe

| LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Run) Rundll32.exe
| powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme

| ScanRegistry Registry (Machine Run) c:\windows\scanregw.exe /autorun

This is the one that does your registry backup at boot-- very important
to keep!

| SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe

This is also important to keep-- it puts the Tray onto the Toolbar.

| StillImageMonitor Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE

| SmcService Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
| -startgui

| mdac_runonce Registry (Machine Run)
| C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\runonce.exe

| avast! Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program Files\Alwil
| Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe

| HP Port Resolver Registry (Machine
| Service) $SYSTEM\hpbpro.exe

| HP Status Server Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpboid.exe

| KB918547 Registry (Machine Service)
| C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB918547\KB918547.EXE

| KB891711 Registry (Machine
| Service) c:\windows\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE

| PPRT Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program
| Files\CA\SharedComponents\PPRT\bin\ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe

| LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Service) Rundll32.exe
| powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme

| SmcService Registry (Machine Service) C:\PROGRAM
| FILES\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
|
|
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:eqT1sMGxIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|> CdLSRN wrote:
|> | My Startup group:
|>
|> Well, this site...
|> http://www.pcreview.co.uk/startup/
|> ...seems to be fairly excellent! Copy/pste each of your startup
|> programs into there to know what they do & whether they might be
|> safely removed. Get back with any further questions. I did the first
|> two...
|>
|> | Microsoft Office Startup Group "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
|> | Office\Office\OSA9.EXE" -b -l
|>
|> That comes in with Microsoft Office Suite to improve performance. You
|> don't have the OSA9.EXE that is a virus, because yours is in the
|> right folder it should be in. The site is recommending it be
|> removed, anyhow, for being a resource hog. It does have this note,
|> though...
|>
|> Note - if you make use of the Microsoft Office Shortcut Bar outside
|> an office program this application will need to be enabled for it to
|> show.
|>
|> If you want to remove it, look in Office Suites various menus to see
|> whether it has an option to turn that feature off. Otherwise, you
|> would uncheck that item at "START, Run, MSConfig, Startup tab"-- but
|> Terhune is against doing it there!
|>
|> | run Win.ini hpfsched
|>
|> That one is showing up in your DrWatson report. The site says it's
|> just reminding you to clean your printer cartridges. To remove it...
|>
|> (a) "START button, Run, Win.ini"
|> (b) Remove "hpfsched" from the "run=",
|> so that it is now just... run=
|>
|> Doing so "might" get rid of that <unknown>-- IIRC from something glee
|> said long ago!
|>
|> | SSBkgdUpdate Registry (Machine Run) "c:\Program Files\Common
|> | Files\Scansoft Shared\SSBkgdUpdate\SSBkgdupdate.exe" -Embedding
|> | -boot
|>
|> Look uup-- SSBkgdupdate.exe. That is, copy/paste it into the
|> requestor at that site. Report back, if you can't figure what to do.
|>
|> | OpwareSE4 Registry (Machine Run) "c:\Program
|> | Files\ScanSoft\OmniPageSE4.0\OpwareSE4.exe"
|>
|> Look up-- OpwareSE4.exe.
|>
|> | ashMaiSv Registry (Machine Run)
|> | C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\ashmaisv.exe
|>
|> That is one of the avast! startups & will be replaced when you do
|> that un/re-install. It will be necessary to keep this one.
|>
|> | POINTER Registry (Machine Run) point32.exe
|>
|> Look up-- point32.exe.
|>
|> | Change Lines Registry (Machine Run) C:\chngline.exe
|>
|> Look up-- chngline.exe.
|>
|> | LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Run) Rundll32.exe
|> | powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
|>
|> That one you must keep. It is a normal MS program that loads & exits
|> quickly during boot.
|>
|> | ScanRegistry Registry (Machine Run) c:\windows\scanregw.exe
|> | /autorun SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe
|>
|> That one too must be kept. It does your Registry backup at boot.
|>
|> | StillImageMonitor Registry (Machine Run)
|> | C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
|>
|> Look up-- STIMON.EXE.
|>
|> | SmcService Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
|> | -startgui
|>
|> | mdac_runonce Registry (Machine Run)
|> | C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\runonce.exe
|>
|> Look up-- runonce.exe. It actually is an MS program-- don't delete
|> the program! Yours SHOULD be deactivated from the Startup Group,
|> though, going by that site. Uncheck it in MSConfig, if you can find
|> no other way.
|>
|> | avast! Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program Files\Alwil
|> | Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
|>
|> That also is avast!.
|>
|> | HP Port Resolver Registry (Machine
|> | Service) $SYSTEM\hpbpro.exe
|>
|> Look up-- hpbpro.exe.
|>
|> | HP Status Server
|> | Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpboid.exe
|>
|> | winmodem Registry (Machine Service) WINMODEM.101\wmexe.exe
|>
|> Look up-- wmexe.exe.
|>
|> | KB918547 Registry (Machine Service)
|> | C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB918547\KB918547.EXE KB891711
|>
|> That is an MS critical update. Keep.
|>
|> | Registry (Machine
|> | Service) c:\windows\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE
|>
|> Same here-- keep this critical update. Only Bill in Co. has
|> permission not to!
|>
|> | PPRT Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program
|> | Files\CA\SharedComponents\PPRT\bin\ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe
|>
|> Look this one up-- ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe.
|>
|> | LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Service) Rundll32.exe
|> | powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
|>
|> Keep-- it looks like a duplicate, but it is not.
|>
|> | SmcService Registry (Machine Service) C:\PROGRAM
|> | FILES\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
|>
|> Look up-- SMC.EXE.
|>
|> |
|> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|> | news:Oxn$3kCxIHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|> |> CdLSRN wrote:
|> |> | I'm not quite sure where you want me to respond but here I am.
|> |> | As far as Dr. Watson:
|> |> | --------------------
|> |> | <unknown> has altered Windows system files.
|> |> | Module Name: <unknown>
|> |> | --------------------
|> |> | That entry has been in Dr. Watson, as I recall for years.
|> |> | Nothing new.
|> |> |
|> |> | I ran registry checker and it said "No errors found".
|> |> |
|> |> | Thank you for telling me how to do a system restore. My
|> |> | question is, why didn't someone tell me that when I couldn't
|> |> | get online? Wouldn't that have solved my problem? Ginny
|> |>
|> |> I don't recall suggesting a system restore or even a registry
|> |> restore to you for this specific problem. It could come in handy
|> |> in the future. You should get something that does a full system
|> |> backup. Nothing very useful for that comes with Win98. I use...
|> |>
|> |> http://www.bootitng.com/ 's BootIt NG, has a variety of backup
|> |> capabilities & works with all OS: Copy partition(s) to HDD, or
|> |> Image to HDD or to CD or DVD. Create, move, shrink or expand
|> |> partitions without data loss. Multi-boot too. To install & use
|> |> beyond 30 days, $34.95.
|> |>
|> |> ..., but there are alternatives that others use & like.
|> |>
|> |> As far as that <unknown> in your DrWatson report (yep, this was
|> |> where to respond for that), I wouldn't want to have it, but
|> |> frankly I did live with one for a while I think. It may go away
|> |> on its own some day when you uninstall some package or program.
|> |> As long as it is not mentioned in a crash report, probably you
|> |> can live with it. Keep DrWatson in the Tray for that report on
|> |> your next crash.
|> |>
|> |> One way to research it is to boot to Safe Mode (the Startup Group
|> |> won't start in Safe Mode) or to use "START, Run, MSConfig" to turn
|> |> off the Startup Group & boot to Normal Mode. If it drops out of
|> |> that DrWatson Diagnosis window, then it is something in the
|> |> Startup Group doing it. Then, you turn half of them back on,
|> |> reboot, & see whether it's returned-- & so on. But it may not
|> |> really be worth all this trouble, since you've had it forever
|> |> without incident. OK-- glad all else seems to be just fine. Maybe
|> |> post your Starup Group, as I suggested somewhere in this thread,
|> |> for a quick examination.
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
P

PCR

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

MEB wrote:
| I'm sorry, didn't want to interrupt, they are helping [too many cooks
| thing]. Just was wondering what your actual physical memory size was
| and how much was free, glad though, that you now have some free hard
| drive space.. They will likely pickup later today.

MEB: Right... Terhune performed a miracle with her hard drive space.
And she continues to work on the Startup Group.

CdLSRN: I responded to your Startup Group elsewhere. OK, fine, if you
are content without Web Shield, I will not push it. Very good that
avast! is reinstalled & no longer crashes.

| --
| MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| --
| _________
|
| "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
| news:48439970$0$25024$607ed4bc@cv.net...
|| I have 3.46 GB freed up now.
|| Gary and I uninstalled and installed the Avast Virus Scanner this
|| evening. Now it's running fine. opens fine. I don't need Web
|| scanning. I am working on the startup items. I disabled some that I
|| knew could be. List of what's running now, below.
||
|| ashMaiSv Registry (Machine Run)
|| C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\ashmaisv.exe POINTER Registry (Machine
|| Run) point32.exe
|| Change Lines Registry (Machine Run) C:\chngline.exe
|| LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Run) Rundll32.exe
|| powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
|| ScanRegistry Registry (Machine Run) c:\windows\scanregw.exe /autorun
|| SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe
|| StillImageMonitor Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
|| SmcService Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
|| -startgui mdac_runonce Registry (Machine Run)
|| C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\runonce.exe
|| avast! Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program Files\Alwil
|| Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe HP Port Resolver Registry (Machine
|| Service) $SYSTEM\hpbpro.exe
|| HP Status Server Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpboid.exe
|| KB918547 Registry (Machine Service)
| C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB918547\KB918547.EXE
|| KB891711 Registry (Machine Service)
| c:\windows\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE
|| PPRT Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program
|| Files\CA\SharedComponents\PPRT\bin\ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe
|| LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Service) Rundll32.exe
|| powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
|| SmcService Registry (Machine Service) C:\PROGRAM
|| FILES\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
||
||
||
|| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| news:uO1AXSHxIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|| > Do the startup review, she has some things which could be removed..
|| >
|| > How much free memory is left/what's the load? Don't see a post
|| > with that info..
|| >
|| > --
|| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| > --
|| > _________
|| >
|| > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|| > news:%23EcxUQGxIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|| > | Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|| > | | <BG> The lady has plenty of practice uninstalling and
|| > | | installing Avast!, PCR! With lots of expert help. Besides, if
|| > | | she has an older version, it can easily be updated using the
|| > | | taskbar icon's menu. I still use setupeng from 1/27/07. In
|| > | | fact, I *think* it automatically updates during install but I
|| > | | can't be sure. Anyway, there are two update choices in the
|| > | | menu, for the engine and for the defs.
|| > |
|| > | True, but she reports crashes when clicking avast! icons. Might
|| > | be best to un/re-install in this circumstance, if she won't
|| > | crash trying.
|| > |
|| > | | As for using the proxy, seems to me that doing so already
|| > | | caused problems for Ginny, but I can't recall for sure. Still,
|| > | | IMO, if an app needs a proxy it should deal with it during
|| > | | Setup. Otherwise, it definitely won't get UNdealt with during
|| > | | an uninstall, and that eventuality might cause all kinds of
|| > | | grief. WebShield's a secondary layer of idiot-proofing, er,
|| > | | defense, anyway. Besides, the lady seems to be a safe surfer.
|| > |
|| > | I would want to try just once more (because it improves the Eicar
|| > | testing), especially as the current install isn't a good one &
|| > | might be malfunctioning at the proxy setting for that reason.
|| > |
|| > | I have to go now, will get back tomorrow.
|| > |
|| > | | --
|| > | | Gary S. Terhune
|| > | | MS-MVP Shell/User
|| > | | www.grystmill.com
|| > | |
|| > | |
|| > | | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|| > | | news:ePz6oaFxIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|| > | |>I see where you posted your Startup Group. It will take some
|| > | |> study for me to decipher. In the meantime-- absolutely
|| > | |> clicking avast! should not do the things you say. You must go
|| > | |> to Add/Remove Programs & uninstall it...
|| > | |>
|| > | |> (a) "START button, Find, F/F, SetupEng"
|| > | |>
|| > | |> That is the avast! raw download. How many do you have?
|| > | |> Delete all but the latest, going by Modification date.
|| > | |>
|| > | |> (b) "START, Settings, Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs"
|| > | |> (c) Double-Click avast! Anti-virus in the list.
|| > | |> Avast! Antivirus Setup will open.
|| > | |> (d) Click the Update Components icon.
|| > | |> Is the version showing... 4.8.1201?
|| > | |> (e) Click the Uninstall button, & do the uninstall.
|| > | |>
|| > | |> (f) If the version was less than mine, delete your remaining
|| > | |> SetupEng.exe to avoid confusing & save disk space--
|| > | |> & go download the new one...
|| > | |> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
|| > | |>
|| > | |> (g) Click your latest SetupEng.exe to do the install.
|| > | |>
|| > | |> Now, can you click around in avast! & not crash? If so, we may
|| > | |> proceed with the settings. Let's try the proxy again...
|| > | |> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869
|| > | |> Since you have a LAN, do the one that involves the LAN only.
|| > | |>
|| > | |> ......Quote instructions when LAN is
|| > | |> involved................... Proxy server settings for
|| > | |> Internet Explorer when using broadband and/or local area
|| > | |> network (LAN) Internet connection
|| > | |>
|| > | |> 1. Start Internet Explorer.
|| > | |> 2. Select Tools ® Internet Options... from the main menu.
|| > | |> 3. Switch to page Connections.
|| > | |> 4. Click on the LAN Settings... button.
|| > | |> 5. Check the option Use a proxy server for your LAN
|| > | |> 6. Write localhost into the Address field (alternatively, you
|| > | |> can enter IP address 127.0.0.1, which is the same as
|| > | |> localhost).
|| > | |> 7. Enter 12080 into the Port field.
|| > | |> 8. Confirm with OK button.
|| > | |> .......EOQ instructions when LAN is
|| > | |> involved......................
|| > | |>
|| > | |>
|| > | |> --
|| > | |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|| > | |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|| > | |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|| > | |> Should things get worse after this,
|| > | |> PCR
|| > | |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|| > | |> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
|| > | |> news:4842fe24$0$15204$607ed4bc@cv.net...
|| > | |> | Without Web Shield. I had a hard time opening it last
|| > | |> | night to run a scan. "An attempt was made to load, ...."
|| > | |> | when I close that out. the splash screen is frozen there
|| > | |> | and I have to do a ctl alt dlt to 'end task' , then the
|| > | |> | scanner is ther with a simple interface. I can not close it
|| > | |> | with the x. Again I have to run a ctl-alt-dlt. to end task.
|| > | |> | So I guess it is not running as smoothly as I thought.
|| > | |> |
|| > | |> |
|| > | |> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|| > | |> | news:%23DXhKqAxIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|| > | |> | > "Avast is running smoothly..." Is that WITH the WebShield
|| > | |> | > turned on or without?
|| > | |> | >
|| > | |> | > --
|| > | |> | > Gary S. Terhune
|| > | |> | > MS-MVP Shell/User
|| > | |> | > www.grystmill.com
|| > | |> | >
|| > | |> | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
|| > | |> | > news:48424910$0$25060$607ed4bc@cv.net...
|| > | |> | > > Brian asked: What is the exact make/model of the
|| > | |> | > > router?
|| > | |> | > >
|| > | |> | > > Answer: BELKIN Model # F5D5230-4
|| > | |> | > >
|| > | |> | > > Brian A said :if anything you may need to forward the
|| > | |> | > > port that Avast uses in order
|| > | |> | > > to allow it through.
|| > | |> | > >
|| > | |> | > > Reply: Avast is having no problems. Running smoothly.
|| > | |> | > > Thanks.
|| > | |> | > >
|| > | |> | > > Ginny
|| > | |> | > >
|| > | |> | > >
|| > | |> | > >
|| > | |> | > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
|| > | |> | > > news:uahHmV6wIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|| > | |> | > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
|| > | |> | > >> news:4840bb81$0$25061$607ed4bc@cv.net...
|| > | |> | > >> >I did not set anything in Belkin. Perhaps I should
|| > | |> | > >> >have gone to my site and
|| > | |> | > >> >entered
|| > | |> | > >> > the Proxy settings for Avast.
|| > | |> | > >>
|| > | |> | > >> It's not a site, it's the routers web based
|| > | |> | > >> configuration. I don't believe
|| > | |> | > >> there is any proxy setting needed at all in the routers
|| > | |> | > >> configuration, .
|| > | |> | > >>>
|| > | |> | > >> --
|| > | |> | > >>
|| > | |> | > >>
|| > | |> | > >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User
|| > | |> | > >> Experience } Conflicts start where information lacks.
|| > | |> | > >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
|| > | |> | > >>
|| > | |> | > >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts:
|| > | |> | > >> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to ask a question:
| http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
|| > |
|| > | --
|| > | Thanks or Good Luck,
|| > | There may be humor in this post, and,
|| > | Naturally, you will not sue,
|| > | Should things get worse after this,
|| > | PCR
|| > | pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
C

CdLSRN

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

My free space is now 4.06 GB. AND here are my Dr. Watson results after I followed
your link and changed 'system.drv=atmsys.drv' to 'system.drv=system.drv', in Win Ini.
and re-booted. After getting the o.k. from Gary, of course.
--------------------
Windows KB891711 component has altered Windows system files.

Module Name: KB891711.EXE
Description: Windows KB891711 component
Version: 4.10.2223
Product: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation

--------------------
Windows KB918547 EXE component has altered Windows system files.

Module Name: KB918547.EXE
Description: Windows KB918547 EXE component
Version: 4.10.2224
Product: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation

Well have a drink on me!! That did the trick. Got rid of the Type Manager has
changed.....AND 'unknown has changed unknown'
Thank you. Ginny

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:uoI4p$QxIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> CdLSRN wrote:
> | My open space is 3.46 GB.
>
> That's really a miraculous recovery of space, considering Terhune said
> you started with only a few 100 MBs! I see you are staggled in getting
> your XP-irradiated machine & do want to continue fixing this one up in
> the meantime. Absolutely, keep at it at that site. It should serve you
> well with XP as well. Report back with any questions.
>
> | I deleted the hp string after run= in Win ini but it did not get rid
> | of that string "unknown caused, etc".
>
> Oops. I was a little sloppy & hasty thinking hpfsched was in your
> DrWatson report & was responsible for the <unknown> in DrWatson. Since
> it didn't get rid of it (& even if it had-- we don't know that <unknown>
> is actually harming you), it's up to you whether to put hpfsched back
> into Win.ini. How good is your memory on cleaning printer cartridges &
> stuff?
>
> The thing in your DrWatson that may or may not be responsible for the
> <unknown> is ATMSYS.DRV. Here is how to deactivate it...
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/69692
> Disabling Adobe Type Manager from Windows
>
> | Here are Dr. Watson reports I
> | just ran:
> |
> |
> | -----------------
> | Windows KB891711 component has altered Windows system files.
> |
> | Module Name: KB891711.EXE
> | Description: Windows KB891711 component
> | Version: 4.10.2223
> | Product: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
> | Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation
> |
> | --------------------
> | Adobe Type Manager has altered Windows system files.
> |
> | Module Name: ATMSYS.DRV
> | Description: Adobe Type Manager
> | Version: R v4.00-32S058G06NN
> | Product: Adobe Type Manager
> | Manufacturer: Adobe Systems Incorporated
> |
> | --------------------
> | <unknown> has altered Windows system files.
> |
> | Module Name: <unknown>
> |
> | --------------------
> | Windows KB918547 EXE component has altered Windows system files.
> |
> | Module Name: KB918547.EXE
> | Description: Windows KB918547 EXE component
> | Version: 4.10.2224
> | Product: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
> | Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation
> |
> | It will take some time to go through all those startup items but I
> | disabled the ones that I knew could be done safely. Here are the ones
> | left running.
> |
> | ashMaiSv Registry (Machine Run)
> | C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\ashmaisv.exe
>
> | POINTER Registry (Machine Run) point32.exe
>
> | Change Lines Registry (Machine Run) C:\chngline.exe
>
> | LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Run) Rundll32.exe
> | powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
>
> | ScanRegistry Registry (Machine Run) c:\windows\scanregw.exe /autorun
>
> This is the one that does your registry backup at boot-- very important
> to keep!
>
> | SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe
>
> This is also important to keep-- it puts the Tray onto the Toolbar.
>
> | StillImageMonitor Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
>
> | SmcService Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
> | -startgui
>
> | mdac_runonce Registry (Machine Run)
> | C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\runonce.exe
>
> | avast! Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program Files\Alwil
> | Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
>
> | HP Port Resolver Registry (Machine
> | Service) $SYSTEM\hpbpro.exe
>
> | HP Status Server Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpboid.exe
>
> | KB918547 Registry (Machine Service)
> | C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB918547\KB918547.EXE
>
> | KB891711 Registry (Machine
> | Service) c:\windows\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE
>
> | PPRT Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program
> | Files\CA\SharedComponents\PPRT\bin\ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe
>
> | LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Service) Rundll32.exe
> | powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
>
> | SmcService Registry (Machine Service) C:\PROGRAM
> | FILES\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
> |
> |
> |
> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:eqT1sMGxIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> |> CdLSRN wrote:
> |> | My Startup group:
> |>
> |> Well, this site...
> |> http://www.pcreview.co.uk/startup/
> |> ...seems to be fairly excellent! Copy/pste each of your startup
> |> programs into there to know what they do & whether they might be
> |> safely removed. Get back with any further questions. I did the first
> |> two...
> |>
> |> | Microsoft Office Startup Group "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
> |> | Office\Office\OSA9.EXE" -b -l
> |>
> |> That comes in with Microsoft Office Suite to improve performance. You
> |> don't have the OSA9.EXE that is a virus, because yours is in the
> |> right folder it should be in. The site is recommending it be
> |> removed, anyhow, for being a resource hog. It does have this note,
> |> though...
> |>
> |> Note - if you make use of the Microsoft Office Shortcut Bar outside
> |> an office program this application will need to be enabled for it to
> |> show.
> |>
> |> If you want to remove it, look in Office Suites various menus to see
> |> whether it has an option to turn that feature off. Otherwise, you
> |> would uncheck that item at "START, Run, MSConfig, Startup tab"-- but
> |> Terhune is against doing it there!
> |>
> |> | run Win.ini hpfsched
> |>
> |> That one is showing up in your DrWatson report. The site says it's
> |> just reminding you to clean your printer cartridges. To remove it...
> |>
> |> (a) "START button, Run, Win.ini"
> |> (b) Remove "hpfsched" from the "run=",
> |> so that it is now just... run=
> |>
> |> Doing so "might" get rid of that <unknown>-- IIRC from something glee
> |> said long ago!
> |>
> |> | SSBkgdUpdate Registry (Machine Run) "c:\Program Files\Common
> |> | Files\Scansoft Shared\SSBkgdUpdate\SSBkgdupdate.exe" -Embedding
> |> | -boot
> |>
> |> Look uup-- SSBkgdupdate.exe. That is, copy/paste it into the
> |> requestor at that site. Report back, if you can't figure what to do.
> |>
> |> | OpwareSE4 Registry (Machine Run) "c:\Program
> |> | Files\ScanSoft\OmniPageSE4.0\OpwareSE4.exe"
> |>
> |> Look up-- OpwareSE4.exe.
> |>
> |> | ashMaiSv Registry (Machine Run)
> |> | C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\ashmaisv.exe
> |>
> |> That is one of the avast! startups & will be replaced when you do
> |> that un/re-install. It will be necessary to keep this one.
> |>
> |> | POINTER Registry (Machine Run) point32.exe
> |>
> |> Look up-- point32.exe.
> |>
> |> | Change Lines Registry (Machine Run) C:\chngline.exe
> |>
> |> Look up-- chngline.exe.
> |>
> |> | LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Run) Rundll32.exe
> |> | powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
> |>
> |> That one you must keep. It is a normal MS program that loads & exits
> |> quickly during boot.
> |>
> |> | ScanRegistry Registry (Machine Run) c:\windows\scanregw.exe
> |> | /autorun SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe
> |>
> |> That one too must be kept. It does your Registry backup at boot.
> |>
> |> | StillImageMonitor Registry (Machine Run)
> |> | C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
> |>
> |> Look up-- STIMON.EXE.
> |>
> |> | SmcService Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
> |> | -startgui
> |>
> |> | mdac_runonce Registry (Machine Run)
> |> | C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\runonce.exe
> |>
> |> Look up-- runonce.exe. It actually is an MS program-- don't delete
> |> the program! Yours SHOULD be deactivated from the Startup Group,
> |> though, going by that site. Uncheck it in MSConfig, if you can find
> |> no other way.
> |>
> |> | avast! Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program Files\Alwil
> |> | Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
> |>
> |> That also is avast!.
> |>
> |> | HP Port Resolver Registry (Machine
> |> | Service) $SYSTEM\hpbpro.exe
> |>
> |> Look up-- hpbpro.exe.
> |>
> |> | HP Status Server
> |> | Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpboid.exe
> |>
> |> | winmodem Registry (Machine Service) WINMODEM.101\wmexe.exe
> |>
> |> Look up-- wmexe.exe.
> |>
> |> | KB918547 Registry (Machine Service)
> |> | C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB918547\KB918547.EXE KB891711
> |>
> |> That is an MS critical update. Keep.
> |>
> |> | Registry (Machine
> |> | Service) c:\windows\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE
> |>
> |> Same here-- keep this critical update. Only Bill in Co. has
> |> permission not to!
> |>
> |> | PPRT Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program
> |> | Files\CA\SharedComponents\PPRT\bin\ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe
> |>
> |> Look this one up-- ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe.
> |>
> |> | LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Service) Rundll32.exe
> |> | powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
> |>
> |> Keep-- it looks like a duplicate, but it is not.
> |>
> |> | SmcService Registry (Machine Service) C:\PROGRAM
> |> | FILES\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
> |>
> |> Look up-- SMC.EXE.
> |>
> |> |
> |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> |> | news:Oxn$3kCxIHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> |> |> CdLSRN wrote:
> |> |> | I'm not quite sure where you want me to respond but here I am.
> |> |> | As far as Dr. Watson:
> |> |> | --------------------
> |> |> | <unknown> has altered Windows system files.
> |> |> | Module Name: <unknown>
> |> |> | --------------------
> |> |> | That entry has been in Dr. Watson, as I recall for years.
> |> |> | Nothing new.
> |> |> |
> |> |> | I ran registry checker and it said "No errors found".
> |> |> |
> |> |> | Thank you for telling me how to do a system restore. My
> |> |> | question is, why didn't someone tell me that when I couldn't
> |> |> | get online? Wouldn't that have solved my problem? Ginny
> |> |>
> |> |> I don't recall suggesting a system restore or even a registry
> |> |> restore to you for this specific problem. It could come in handy
> |> |> in the future. You should get something that does a full system
> |> |> backup. Nothing very useful for that comes with Win98. I use...
> |> |>
> |> |> http://www.bootitng.com/ 's BootIt NG, has a variety of backup
> |> |> capabilities & works with all OS: Copy partition(s) to HDD, or
> |> |> Image to HDD or to CD or DVD. Create, move, shrink or expand
> |> |> partitions without data loss. Multi-boot too. To install & use
> |> |> beyond 30 days, $34.95.
> |> |>
> |> |> ..., but there are alternatives that others use & like.
> |> |>
> |> |> As far as that <unknown> in your DrWatson report (yep, this was
> |> |> where to respond for that), I wouldn't want to have it, but
> |> |> frankly I did live with one for a while I think. It may go away
> |> |> on its own some day when you uninstall some package or program.
> |> |> As long as it is not mentioned in a crash report, probably you
> |> |> can live with it. Keep DrWatson in the Tray for that report on
> |> |> your next crash.
> |> |>
> |> |> One way to research it is to boot to Safe Mode (the Startup Group
> |> |> won't start in Safe Mode) or to use "START, Run, MSConfig" to turn
> |> |> off the Startup Group & boot to Normal Mode. If it drops out of
> |> |> that DrWatson Diagnosis window, then it is something in the
> |> |> Startup Group doing it. Then, you turn half of them back on,
> |> |> reboot, & see whether it's returned-- & so on. But it may not
> |> |> really be worth all this trouble, since you've had it forever
> |> |> without incident. OK-- glad all else seems to be just fine. Maybe
> |> |> post your Starup Group, as I suggested somewhere in this thread,
> |> |> for a quick examination.
> |>
> |> --
> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> PCR
> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
 
M

MEB

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Well that's true,,, pro and con, near and far... but it wasn't really an
argument.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:eCj4FfQxIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| MEB wrote:
| | NO I didn't....
|
| OK. But you 'n Terhune are already arguing about other important stuff
| in mile-long threads. So, this couldn't add much more harm, anyhow! :).
|
| | --
| | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| | --
| | _________
| |
| | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| | news:umYKylCxIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| || Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| || | What system restore? There is no System Restore in Windows 98.
| || | Unless you make full system backups using a third-party app, the
| || | closest you can get with Win98 is to restore a Registry Backup.
| || | That would not have gotten you back online. Your old firewall was
| || | what kept you offline.
| ||
| || I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any of the
| || others! Maybe MEB said it!
| ||
| || | --
| || | Gary S. Terhune
| || | MS-MVP Shell/User
| || | www.grystmill.com
| || |
| || | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
| || | news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...
|
|
| ...snip
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net
|
|
 
P

PCR

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

CdLSRN wrote:
| My free space is now 4.06 GB. AND here are my Dr. Watson results
| after I followed your link and changed 'system.drv=atmsys.drv' to
| 'system.drv=system.drv', in Win Ini. and re-booted. After getting the
| o.k. from Gary, of course. --------------------
| Windows KB891711 component has altered Windows system files.
|
| Module Name: KB891711.EXE
| Description: Windows KB891711 component
| Version: 4.10.2223
| Product: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
| Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation
|
| --------------------
| Windows KB918547 EXE component has altered Windows system files.
|
| Module Name: KB918547.EXE
| Description: Windows KB918547 EXE component
| Version: 4.10.2224
| Product: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
| Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation
|
| Well have a drink on me!! That did the trick. Got rid of the Type
| Manager has changed.....AND 'unknown has changed unknown'
| Thank you. Ginny

Glad to hear it! What a success! Well done! OK-- let me go see if I can
find Brian A. & swipe a can of barley pop beer!

|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:uoI4p$QxIHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|> CdLSRN wrote:
|> | My open space is 3.46 GB.
|>
|> That's really a miraculous recovery of space, considering Terhune
|> said you started with only a few 100 MBs! I see you are staggled in
|> getting your XP-irradiated machine & do want to continue fixing this
|> one up in the meantime. Absolutely, keep at it at that site. It
|> should serve you well with XP as well. Report back with any
|> questions.
|>
|> | I deleted the hp string after run= in Win ini but it did not get
|> | rid of that string "unknown caused, etc".
|>
|> Oops. I was a little sloppy & hasty thinking hpfsched was in your
|> DrWatson report & was responsible for the <unknown> in DrWatson.
|> Since it didn't get rid of it (& even if it had-- we don't know that
|> <unknown> is actually harming you), it's up to you whether to put
|> hpfsched back into Win.ini. How good is your memory on cleaning
|> printer cartridges & stuff?
|>
|> The thing in your DrWatson that may or may not be responsible for the
|> <unknown> is ATMSYS.DRV. Here is how to deactivate it...
|>
|> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/69692
|> Disabling Adobe Type Manager from Windows
|>
|> | Here are Dr. Watson reports I
|> | just ran:
|> |
|> |
|> | -----------------
|> | Windows KB891711 component has altered Windows system files.
|> |
|> | Module Name: KB891711.EXE
|> | Description: Windows KB891711 component
|> | Version: 4.10.2223
|> | Product: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
|> | Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation
|> |
|> | --------------------
|> | Adobe Type Manager has altered Windows system files.
|> |
|> | Module Name: ATMSYS.DRV
|> | Description: Adobe Type Manager
|> | Version: R v4.00-32S058G06NN
|> | Product: Adobe Type Manager
|> | Manufacturer: Adobe Systems Incorporated
|> |
|> | --------------------
|> | <unknown> has altered Windows system files.
|> |
|> | Module Name: <unknown>
|> |
|> | --------------------
|> | Windows KB918547 EXE component has altered Windows system files.
|> |
|> | Module Name: KB918547.EXE
|> | Description: Windows KB918547 EXE component
|> | Version: 4.10.2224
|> | Product: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
|> | Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation
|> |
|> | It will take some time to go through all those startup items but I
|> | disabled the ones that I knew could be done safely. Here are the
|> | ones left running.
|> |
|> | ashMaiSv Registry (Machine Run)
|> | C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\ashmaisv.exe
|>
|> | POINTER Registry (Machine Run) point32.exe
|>
|> | Change Lines Registry (Machine Run) C:\chngline.exe
|>
|> | LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Run) Rundll32.exe
|> | powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
|>
|> | ScanRegistry Registry (Machine Run) c:\windows\scanregw.exe
|> | /autorun
|>
|> This is the one that does your registry backup at boot-- very
|> important to keep!
|>
|> | SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe
|>
|> This is also important to keep-- it puts the Tray onto the Toolbar.
|>
|> | StillImageMonitor Registry (Machine Run)
|> | C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
|>
|> | SmcService Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
|> | -startgui
|>
|> | mdac_runonce Registry (Machine Run)
|> | C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\runonce.exe
|>
|> | avast! Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program Files\Alwil
|> | Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
|>
|> | HP Port Resolver Registry (Machine
|> | Service) $SYSTEM\hpbpro.exe
|>
|> | HP Status Server Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpboid.exe
|>
|> | KB918547 Registry (Machine Service)
|> | C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB918547\KB918547.EXE
|>
|> | KB891711 Registry (Machine
|> | Service) c:\windows\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE
|>
|> | PPRT Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program
|> | Files\CA\SharedComponents\PPRT\bin\ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe
|>
|> | LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Service) Rundll32.exe
|> | powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
|>
|> | SmcService Registry (Machine Service) C:\PROGRAM
|> | FILES\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
|> |
|> |
|> |
|> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|> | news:eqT1sMGxIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|> |> CdLSRN wrote:
|> |> | My Startup group:
|> |>
|> |> Well, this site...
|> |> http://www.pcreview.co.uk/startup/
|> |> ...seems to be fairly excellent! Copy/pste each of your startup
|> |> programs into there to know what they do & whether they might be
|> |> safely removed. Get back with any further questions. I did the
|> |> first two...
|> |>
|> |> | Microsoft Office Startup Group "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
|> |> | Office\Office\OSA9.EXE" -b -l
|> |>
|> |> That comes in with Microsoft Office Suite to improve performance.
|> |> You don't have the OSA9.EXE that is a virus, because yours is in
|> |> the right folder it should be in. The site is recommending it be
|> |> removed, anyhow, for being a resource hog. It does have this note,
|> |> though...
|> |>
|> |> Note - if you make use of the Microsoft Office Shortcut Bar
|> |> outside an office program this application will need to be
|> |> enabled for it to show.
|> |>
|> |> If you want to remove it, look in Office Suites various menus to
|> |> see whether it has an option to turn that feature off. Otherwise,
|> |> you would uncheck that item at "START, Run, MSConfig, Startup
|> |> tab"-- but Terhune is against doing it there!
|> |>
|> |> | run Win.ini hpfsched
|> |>
|> |> That one is showing up in your DrWatson report. The site says it's
|> |> just reminding you to clean your printer cartridges. To remove
|> |> it...
|> |>
|> |> (a) "START button, Run, Win.ini"
|> |> (b) Remove "hpfsched" from the "run=",
|> |> so that it is now just... run=
|> |>
|> |> Doing so "might" get rid of that <unknown>-- IIRC from something
|> |> glee said long ago!
|> |>
|> |> | SSBkgdUpdate Registry (Machine Run) "c:\Program Files\Common
|> |> | Files\Scansoft Shared\SSBkgdUpdate\SSBkgdupdate.exe" -Embedding
|> |> | -boot
|> |>
|> |> Look uup-- SSBkgdupdate.exe. That is, copy/paste it into the
|> |> requestor at that site. Report back, if you can't figure what to
|> |> do.
|> |>
|> |> | OpwareSE4 Registry (Machine Run) "c:\Program
|> |> | Files\ScanSoft\OmniPageSE4.0\OpwareSE4.exe"
|> |>
|> |> Look up-- OpwareSE4.exe.
|> |>
|> |> | ashMaiSv Registry (Machine Run)
|> |> | C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\ashmaisv.exe
|> |>
|> |> That is one of the avast! startups & will be replaced when you do
|> |> that un/re-install. It will be necessary to keep this one.
|> |>
|> |> | POINTER Registry (Machine Run) point32.exe
|> |>
|> |> Look up-- point32.exe.
|> |>
|> |> | Change Lines Registry (Machine Run) C:\chngline.exe
|> |>
|> |> Look up-- chngline.exe.
|> |>
|> |> | LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Run) Rundll32.exe
|> |> | powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
|> |>
|> |> That one you must keep. It is a normal MS program that loads &
|> |> exits quickly during boot.
|> |>
|> |> | ScanRegistry Registry (Machine Run) c:\windows\scanregw.exe
|> |> | /autorun SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe
|> |>
|> |> That one too must be kept. It does your Registry backup at boot.
|> |>
|> |> | StillImageMonitor Registry (Machine Run)
|> |> | C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
|> |>
|> |> Look up-- STIMON.EXE.
|> |>
|> |> | SmcService Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRA~1\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
|> |> | -startgui
|> |>
|> |> | mdac_runonce Registry (Machine Run)
|> |> | C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\runonce.exe
|> |>
|> |> Look up-- runonce.exe. It actually is an MS program-- don't
|> |> delete the program! Yours SHOULD be deactivated from the Startup
|> |> Group, though, going by that site. Uncheck it in MSConfig, if you
|> |> can find no other way.
|> |>
|> |> | avast! Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program Files\Alwil
|> |> | Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
|> |>
|> |> That also is avast!.
|> |>
|> |> | HP Port Resolver Registry (Machine
|> |> | Service) $SYSTEM\hpbpro.exe
|> |>
|> |> Look up-- hpbpro.exe.
|> |>
|> |> | HP Status Server
|> |> | Registry (Machine Service) $SYSTEM\hpboid.exe
|> |>
|> |> | winmodem Registry (Machine Service) WINMODEM.101\wmexe.exe
|> |>
|> |> Look up-- wmexe.exe.
|> |>
|> |> | KB918547 Registry (Machine Service)
|> |> | C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB918547\KB918547.EXE KB891711
|> |>
|> |> That is an MS critical update. Keep.
|> |>
|> |> | Registry (Machine
|> |> | Service) c:\windows\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE
|> |>
|> |> Same here-- keep this critical update. Only Bill in Co. has
|> |> permission not to!
|> |>
|> |> | PPRT Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program
|> |> | Files\CA\SharedComponents\PPRT\bin\ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe
|> |>
|> |> Look this one up-- ITMRTSVC_Launcher.exe.
|> |>
|> |> | LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Service) Rundll32.exe
|> |> | powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
|> |>
|> |> Keep-- it looks like a duplicate, but it is not.
|> |>
|> |> | SmcService Registry (Machine Service) C:\PROGRAM
|> |> | FILES\SYGATE\SPF\SMC.EXE
|> |>
|> |> Look up-- SMC.EXE.
|> |>
|> |> |
|> |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|> |> | news:Oxn$3kCxIHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|> |> |> CdLSRN wrote:
|> |> |> | I'm not quite sure where you want me to respond but here I
|> |> |> | am. As far as Dr. Watson:
|> |> |> | --------------------
|> |> |> | <unknown> has altered Windows system files.
|> |> |> | Module Name: <unknown>
|> |> |> | --------------------
|> |> |> | That entry has been in Dr. Watson, as I recall for years.
|> |> |> | Nothing new.
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> | I ran registry checker and it said "No errors found".
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> | Thank you for telling me how to do a system restore. My
|> |> |> | question is, why didn't someone tell me that when I couldn't
|> |> |> | get online? Wouldn't that have solved my problem? Ginny
|> |> |>
|> |> |> I don't recall suggesting a system restore or even a registry
|> |> |> restore to you for this specific problem. It could come in
|> |> |> handy in the future. You should get something that does a full
|> |> |> system backup. Nothing very useful for that comes with Win98.
|> |> |> I use...
|> |> |>
|> |> |> http://www.bootitng.com/ 's BootIt NG, has a variety of backup
|> |> |> capabilities & works with all OS: Copy partition(s) to HDD, or
|> |> |> Image to HDD or to CD or DVD. Create, move, shrink or expand
|> |> |> partitions without data loss. Multi-boot too. To install & use
|> |> |> beyond 30 days, $34.95.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> ..., but there are alternatives that others use & like.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> As far as that <unknown> in your DrWatson report (yep, this was
|> |> |> where to respond for that), I wouldn't want to have it, but
|> |> |> frankly I did live with one for a while I think. It may go away
|> |> |> on its own some day when you uninstall some package or program.
|> |> |> As long as it is not mentioned in a crash report, probably you
|> |> |> can live with it. Keep DrWatson in the Tray for that report on
|> |> |> your next crash.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> One way to research it is to boot to Safe Mode (the Startup
|> |> |> Group won't start in Safe Mode) or to use "START, Run,
|> |> |> MSConfig" to turn off the Startup Group & boot to Normal Mode.
|> |> |> If it drops out of that DrWatson Diagnosis window, then it is
|> |> |> something in the Startup Group doing it. Then, you turn half
|> |> |> of them back on, reboot, & see whether it's returned-- & so
|> |> |> on. But it may not really be worth all this trouble, since
|> |> |> you've had it forever without incident. OK-- glad all else
|> |> |> seems to be just fine. Maybe post your Starup Group, as I
|> |> |> suggested somewhere in this thread, for a quick examination.
|> |>
|> |> --
|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> PCR
|> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
P

PCR

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

MEB wrote:
| Well that's true,,, pro and con, near and far... but it wasn't really
| an argument.

It had significant similarities to an argument & was long enough for
either of you to have said almost anything in it! But careful review
does show system restore wasn't mentioned-- fine!

| --
| MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| --
| _________
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:eCj4FfQxIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|| MEB wrote:
|| | NO I didn't....
||
|| OK. But you 'n Terhune are already arguing about other important
|| stuff in mile-long threads. So, this couldn't add much more harm,
|| anyhow! :).
||
|| | --
|| | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|| | --
|| | _________
|| |
|| | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|| | news:umYKylCxIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|| || Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|| || | What system restore? There is no System Restore in Windows 98.
|| || | Unless you make full system backups using a third-party app, the
|| || | closest you can get with Win98 is to restore a Registry Backup.
|| || | That would not have gotten you back online. Your old firewall
|| || | was what kept you offline.
|| ||
|| || I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any of the
|| || others! Maybe MEB said it!
|| ||
|| || | --
|| || | Gary S. Terhune
|| || | MS-MVP Shell/User
|| || | www.grystmill.com
|| || |
|| || | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
|| || | news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...
||
||
|| ...snip
|| --
|| Thanks or Good Luck,
|| There may be humor in this post, and,
|| Naturally, you will not sue,
|| Should things get worse after this,
|| PCR
|| pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
C

CdLSRN

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

No "System Restore" wasn't mentioned. What was mentioned was that the registry backs
itself up every few days and that if I booted into Safe Mode and pressed option #5 (I
was then given the words I should type in) and then I would be given my choice of a
few dates I could back up to. (I printed it out somewhere and it is in the string
somewhere). I believe it is not in words but a link I was given. Because at the top
of the printed page it said "untitled", I don't remember who sent it. I didn't
follow those instructions.
And, it was my mistake in thinking these instructions would have restored my
computer to the way it was back on that date. I just thought if that date was before
I put the Avast in, that the problem would have disappeared.
I don't know why anyone would fight over it. So, kiss and make up! Ginny


"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:OSgPGVTxIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> MEB wrote:
> | Well that's true,,, pro and con, near and far... but it wasn't really
> | an argument.
>
> It had significant similarities to an argument & was long enough for
> either of you to have said almost anything in it! But careful review
> does show system restore wasn't mentioned-- fine!
>
> | --
> | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | --
> | _________
> |
> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:eCj4FfQxIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> || MEB wrote:
> || | NO I didn't....
> ||
> || OK. But you 'n Terhune are already arguing about other important
> || stuff in mile-long threads. So, this couldn't add much more harm,
> || anyhow! :).
> ||
> || | --
> || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> || | --
> || | _________
> || |
> || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> || | news:umYKylCxIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> || || Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> || || | What system restore? There is no System Restore in Windows 98.
> || || | Unless you make full system backups using a third-party app, the
> || || | closest you can get with Win98 is to restore a Registry Backup.
> || || | That would not have gotten you back online. Your old firewall
> || || | was what kept you offline.
> || ||
> || || I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any of the
> || || others! Maybe MEB said it!
> || ||
> || || | --
> || || | Gary S. Terhune
> || || | MS-MVP Shell/User
> || || | www.grystmill.com
> || || |
> || || | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> || || | news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> ||
> ||
> || ...snip
> || --
> || Thanks or Good Luck,
> || There may be humor in this post, and,
> || Naturally, you will not sue,
> || Should things get worse after this,
> || PCR
> || pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
 
C

CdLSRN

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

I found the printed papers. They are titled "Restore to a previous date.txt" , a bit
of a misleading title if that isn't what it does. It says : "Windows 98 comes with a
utility called Registry Checker that backs up the registry each time you turn your
computer on , and scans your Registry at every restart. If Registry Checker finds a
problem with your Registry, it will automatically replace it with your most recent
backup copy.

To run the Registry Checker at any time:
Click the Start button. Point to Programs, Accessories and point to system Tools
Click System Information
Click Tools from the menu bar and then click Registry Checker." run the Registry
Checker at any time: etc. etc.

Ginny

To
"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:4844de15$0$15167$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> No "System Restore" wasn't mentioned. What was mentioned was that the registry

backs
> itself up every few days and that if I booted into Safe Mode and pressed option #5

(I
> was then given the words I should type in) and then I would be given my choice of a
> few dates I could back up to. (I printed it out somewhere and it is in the string
> somewhere). I believe it is not in words but a link I was given. Because at the top
> of the printed page it said "untitled", I don't remember who sent it. I didn't
> follow those instructions.
> And, it was my mistake in thinking these instructions would have restored my
> computer to the way it was back on that date. I just thought if that date was

before
> I put the Avast in, that the problem would have disappeared.
> I don't know why anyone would fight over it. So, kiss and make up! Ginny
>
>
> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:OSgPGVTxIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > MEB wrote:
> > | Well that's true,,, pro and con, near and far... but it wasn't really
> > | an argument.
> >
> > It had significant similarities to an argument & was long enough for
> > either of you to have said almost anything in it! But careful review
> > does show system restore wasn't mentioned-- fine!
> >
> > | --
> > | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> > | --
> > | _________
> > |
> > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> > | news:eCj4FfQxIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > || MEB wrote:
> > || | NO I didn't....
> > ||
> > || OK. But you 'n Terhune are already arguing about other important
> > || stuff in mile-long threads. So, this couldn't add much more harm,
> > || anyhow! :).
> > ||
> > || | --
> > || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> > || | --
> > || | _________
> > || |
> > || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> > || | news:umYKylCxIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > || || Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> > || || | What system restore? There is no System Restore in Windows 98.
> > || || | Unless you make full system backups using a third-party app, the
> > || || | closest you can get with Win98 is to restore a Registry Backup.
> > || || | That would not have gotten you back online. Your old firewall
> > || || | was what kept you offline.
> > || ||
> > || || I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any of the
> > || || others! Maybe MEB said it!
> > || ||
> > || || | --
> > || || | Gary S. Terhune
> > || || | MS-MVP Shell/User
> > || || | www.grystmill.com
> > || || |
> > || || | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > || || | news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> > ||
> > ||
> > || ...snip
> > || --
> > || Thanks or Good Luck,
> > || There may be humor in this post, and,
> > || Naturally, you will not sue,
> > || Should things get worse after this,
> > || PCR
> > || pcrrcp@netzero.net
> >
> > --
> > Thanks or Good Luck,
> > There may be humor in this post, and,
> > Naturally, you will not sue,
> > Should things get worse after this,
> > PCR
> > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> >
> >

>
>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

T'was a "colloquy", silly.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:OSgPGVTxIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> MEB wrote:
> | Well that's true,,, pro and con, near and far... but it wasn't really
> | an argument.
>
> It had significant similarities to an argument & was long enough for
> either of you to have said almost anything in it! But careful review
> does show system restore wasn't mentioned-- fine!
>
> | --
> | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | --
> | _________
> |
> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:eCj4FfQxIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> || MEB wrote:
> || | NO I didn't....
> ||
> || OK. But you 'n Terhune are already arguing about other important
> || stuff in mile-long threads. So, this couldn't add much more harm,
> || anyhow! :).
> ||
> || | --
> || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> || | --
> || | _________
> || |
> || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> || | news:umYKylCxIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> || || Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> || || | What system restore? There is no System Restore in Windows 98.
> || || | Unless you make full system backups using a third-party app, the
> || || | closest you can get with Win98 is to restore a Registry Backup.
> || || | That would not have gotten you back online. Your old firewall
> || || | was what kept you offline.
> || ||
> || || I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any of the
> || || others! Maybe MEB said it!
> || ||
> || || | --
> || || | Gary S. Terhune
> || || | MS-MVP Shell/User
> || || | www.grystmill.com
> || || |
> || || | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> || || | news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> ||
> ||
> || ...snip
> || --
> || Thanks or Good Luck,
> || There may be humor in this post, and,
> || Naturally, you will not sue,
> || Should things get worse after this,
> || PCR
> || pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Re: SOLVED(?)Re: need antivirus

Note that there are only five Registry backups, so be careful making new
ones. Might end up with five copies of your currently bad Registry and none
to restore.

With all the frantic back and forth, it's difficult to say for sure what
went wrong with the Avast! installation, but it was probably a combination
of one or both firewalls and the WebShield. Problem was, there was other
confusions that sidetracked us from focusing on the primary issues. I'm also
not convinced that the problem(s) included messes left over by previous
installers, specifically installers from ISPs. (Which should NEVER be
installed!!! Well, almost never.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:4844e3d7$0$15181$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>I found the printed papers. They are titled "Restore to a previous
>date.txt" , a bit
> of a misleading title if that isn't what it does. It says : "Windows 98
> comes with a
> utility called Registry Checker that backs up the registry each time you
> turn your
> computer on , and scans your Registry at every restart. If Registry
> Checker finds a
> problem with your Registry, it will automatically replace it with your
> most recent
> backup copy.
>
> To run the Registry Checker at any time:
> Click the Start button. Point to Programs, Accessories and point to system
> Tools
> Click System Information
> Click Tools from the menu bar and then click Registry Checker." run the
> Registry
> Checker at any time: etc. etc.
>
> Ginny
>
> To
> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:4844de15$0$15167$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> No "System Restore" wasn't mentioned. What was mentioned was that the
>> registry

> backs
>> itself up every few days and that if I booted into Safe Mode and pressed
>> option #5

> (I
>> was then given the words I should type in) and then I would be given my
>> choice of a
>> few dates I could back up to. (I printed it out somewhere and it is in
>> the string
>> somewhere). I believe it is not in words but a link I was given. Because
>> at the top
>> of the printed page it said "untitled", I don't remember who sent it. I
>> didn't
>> follow those instructions.
>> And, it was my mistake in thinking these instructions would have
>> restored my
>> computer to the way it was back on that date. I just thought if that date
>> was

> before
>> I put the Avast in, that the problem would have disappeared.
>> I don't know why anyone would fight over it. So, kiss and make up!
>> Ginny
>>
>>
>> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> news:OSgPGVTxIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> > MEB wrote:
>> > | Well that's true,,, pro and con, near and far... but it wasn't really
>> > | an argument.
>> >
>> > It had significant similarities to an argument & was long enough for
>> > either of you to have said almost anything in it! But careful review
>> > does show system restore wasn't mentioned-- fine!
>> >
>> > | --
>> > | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>> > | --
>> > | _________
>> > |
>> > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> > | news:eCj4FfQxIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> > || MEB wrote:
>> > || | NO I didn't....
>> > ||
>> > || OK. But you 'n Terhune are already arguing about other important
>> > || stuff in mile-long threads. So, this couldn't add much more harm,
>> > || anyhow! :).
>> > ||
>> > || | --
>> > || | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>> > || | --
>> > || | _________
>> > || |
>> > || | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> > || | news:umYKylCxIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> > || || Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> > || || | What system restore? There is no System Restore in Windows 98.
>> > || || | Unless you make full system backups using a third-party app,
>> > the
>> > || || | closest you can get with Win98 is to restore a Registry Backup.
>> > || || | That would not have gotten you back online. Your old firewall
>> > || || | was what kept you offline.
>> > || ||
>> > || || I don't recall mentioning such a thing in thread or any of the
>> > || || others! Maybe MEB said it!
>> > || ||
>> > || || | --
>> > || || | Gary S. Terhune
>> > || || | MS-MVP Shell/User
>> > || || | www.grystmill.com
>> > || || |
>> > || || | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> > || || | news:48424dcd$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> > ||
>> > ||
>> > || ...snip
>> > || --
>> > || Thanks or Good Luck,
>> > || There may be humor in this post, and,
>> > || Naturally, you will not sue,
>> > || Should things get worse after this,
>> > || PCR
>> > || pcrrcp@netzero.net
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks or Good Luck,
>> > There may be humor in this post, and,
>> > Naturally, you will not sue,
>> > Should things get worse after this,
>> > PCR
>> > pcrrcp@netzero.net
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>
 
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