IE Running well so far

[Gary S. Terhune]

"...note the date..." Note what about the date?

And it just goes to show you how much you can trust any particular write-up
by MS to be complete.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O%23kHsJUwIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Just some further info for those who might be interested.
>
> Though previous 98SE iuhist.xml-s did include the update, here's excerpts
> from the download page I have saved from 02/09/2006 {note the date}:
>
> Download details: Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 Service
> Pack 1 (KB823353)
>
> Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1
> (KB823353)
> This update addresses the vulnerability discussed in Microsoft
> Security Bulletin MS04-018. To find out if other security updates
> are available for you, see the Overview section of this page.
>
> Quick Info
> File Name:IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe
> Download Size:1950 KB
> Date Published:7/14/2004
> Version:OE6
>
> Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6
> Service Pack 1 (KB823353)
> English
>
> Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018
>
> System Requirements
> Supported Operating Systems: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2,
> Windows 2000 Service Pack 3, Windows 2000 Service Pack 4,
> Windows NT, Windows XP, Windows XP Service Pack 1
> This update applies to Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
> with the following operating systems:
>
> Windows XP SP1
> Windows XP
> Windows 2000 SP2
> Windows 2000 SP3
> Windows 2000 SP4
> Windows NT 4.0 SP6A
> ------
>
> The file I have saved with a date of 11/23/04 was also saved with the
> download page [same date] which reflects the above information.:
> Compare to the below date.
>
> As example of one of the old iuhist containment {the < have been removed}:
>
> itemStatus xmlns="" timestamp="2004-08-03T05:23:24">
> identity
> itemID="ie60x.internetexplorer6x.ver_platform_win32_windows.4.10.x86.en.....
> .com_microsoft.q823353_oe6_sp1." name="Q823353_OE6_SP1">
> publisherName>com_microsoft</publisherName>
> language>en</language>
> /identity>
> description hidden="0">
> descriptionText>
> title>Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 SP1
> (KB823353)</title>
> eula href="/msdownload/update/v3/static/eula/en/eula.htm"/>
> details href="http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=19527"/>
> /descriptionText>
> /description>
> platform name="ver_platform_win32_windows">
> processorArchitecture>x86</processorArchitecture>
> version major="4" minor="10" build="" servicePackMajor=""
> servicePackMinor=""/>
> /platform>
> <downloadStatus value="COMPLETE"/>
> <downloadPath>c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q823353_OE6_SP1</downloadPath>
> <client>IU_Site</client>
> <installStatus value="COMPLETE" needsReboot="0"/>
> </itemStatus>
>
> {I was wrong it wasn't part of the December update debacle.}
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Remove it.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Microsoft XML Parser and SDK
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:%23cuv73TwIHA.4488@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Add/Remove Programs
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:483e1925$0$15180$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >I want to be clear before I do this. When you say "write down any entry
>> >that includes
>> > MSXML and post it here, and uninstall it"......please tell me where am
>> > I
>> > getting this
>> > "entry" from? Ginny
>> >
>> >
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> > news:u44BNBOwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> You still have MSXML 4.0 SP1. Here's some updates you might want to
>> >> consider:
>> >> First, uninstall that Update we installed that includes the SDK. If
>> >> you're
>> >> not sure which one, write down any entry that includes MSXML and post
>> >> it
>> >> here. After uninstalling that, then get:
>> >>
>> >> MSXML 4.0 Service Pack 2 http://tinyurl.com/59qer
>> >>
>> >> then this patch:
>> >> http://tinyurl.com/y6a2sl
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >>
>> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:483cf7f0$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> > All three are version 4.10.9404.0 and they were all created 2/4/02.
>> >> > msxml4.dll is 80.5 KB, msxml4r.dll is 1.17 MB, msxml4a.dll is 43.5
>> >> > KB.
>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> >> > news:uJmnbUIwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> The date isn't as useful as the version number, Ginny.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:483ce3f6$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> >> > My msxml4.dll, msxml4a.dll, and msxml4r.dll, were all modified on
>> >> >> > February
>> >> >> > 4,2002. I
>> >> >> > bought the machine from Dell in 1999. XPS T450, desktop.
>> >> >> > Ginny
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Etal" <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:g1hu1r$ad1$1@aioe.org...
>> >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from,
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> If you think it is of importance to find out, and if the
>> >> >> >> [msXML4*.*] files haven't been (security-)updated since
>> >> >> >> originally installed.
>> >> >> >> Then i would check their creation date, and then search the
>> >> >> >> HardDiskVolumes for files created that date. If there are many
>> >> >> >> files created that day, i'd sort files by modification-date.
>> >> >> >> Unfortunately the result-list doesn't have a Creation-date
>> >> >> >> column
>> >> >> >> but many times, sometimes even if the application responsible
>> >> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> installing the files under investigation have been uninstalled,
>> >> >> >> there are other tell-tale files left behind that can shed light
>> >> >> >> on it.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> "They can be a terror to your mind and show you how to hold your
>> >> >> >> tongue
>> >> >> >> They got mystery written all over their forehead"
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

 

[MEB]

Re: What is Quick Time

Let's just end this with a fact:

Microsoft is attempting to foster open source for its proposed newer
operating systems... think you can guess WHY... and that pretty much ends
any debate about just how good XP and Vista are....

Sorry not really in this type of debating mood at the moment, still stuck
in Legal mode [local and distant]...

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
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|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:e39giUSwIHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| >
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > news:O6TJ5MPwIHA.4564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | news:OWeKt3OwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | > news:%23k1oCnOwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | > | Windows XP is no more a POS than 98. I don't use Vista so I can't
| > | > comment,
| > | > | but I imagine it's the same thing, though I tend to think of Vista
| > as
| > | > XP's
| > | > | ME. As for your hardware argument, that's total BS. Windows 98
lost
| > it's
| > | > | market share (dropped into the low single-digits) long before new
| > | > hardware
| > | > | stopped supporting it.
| > | > |
| > | > | People LIKE operating systems that just work. Windows XP is and
| > always
| > | > has
| > | > | been more robust than 98. That's why IT people like it (go ahead,
| > show
| > | > me
| > | > a
| > | > | survey of IT's where 98 is compared favorably with other systems.)
| > | > That's
| > | > | why home users and SOHO users and everyone else like XP. As for
| > | > security,
| > | > | the only difference between now on XP and then on 98 is in the
| > details.
| > | >
| > | > IT goes for what's EASY to use, what seems to be hot, and are just
as
| > | > easily mislead as any other party.
| > | > Just as the home user THOUGHT they were getting a much more secure
| > system,
| > | > so did IT. Just as the home user doesn't want to spend much time
| > learning
| > | > how to use a computer, so does IT.
| > | > The relational charcturistics between home and IT or other
| > professionals
| > | > runs parallel. Look on the one hand at IT trying to secure their
| > systems,
| > | > and the other the web development department attempting to create
new
| > | > ways
| > | > to garner more information via script and other... how smart is
this.
| > |
| > | And your point is? What you describe is how it's always been, and in
| > fact
| > I
| > | DO say that XP makes ALL of those tasks easier. And what makes you
think
| > | that IT or home users consider Security the main consideration when
| > | purchasing a new system? If they know anything, they know it's a
| > constant
| > | battle no matter what system you're using, particularly if it's the OS
| > that
| > | has 80% of the market and makes such a nice big target. They rely upon
| > MS
| > | and third parties to protect their systems. If they are just as savvy
in
| > | other things, they'll never have to deal with malware. I certainly
| > don't,
| > | and only one or two recalcitrants amongst my clientelle have any
serious
| > | problems with their XP systems once I give them "the talk". On the
other
| > | hand, I have a few 9x clients left, and they are STILL calling me
every
| > few
| > | months, asking if I can come and clean up some mess.
| >
| > Due to>>>> their improper use, same for XP. Because they can't take the
| > time to learn what they are doing..
| > I referenced what was occurring years ago {1992} its called
Stupification
| > [yeah that's mis-spelled.
|
| Why should every car driver be a mechanic (I shudder to think...) Should
| every eater also be a full time farmer? What chaos! Computers are
| appliances, nothing more. They feed the needs of society, not the reverse.
| They just need to work in the real world, and only the *heavily*
restricted
| Apple offerings do that better than Windows PCs.
|
| > |
| > | > The market you reference, showing usage reflects only that people
CAN
| > be
| > | > convinced to use products which they actually know nothing about,
just
| > | > because its easier to use and happens to be widely accepted, and
| > hardware
| > | > support has NOT been provided in the previous OS, though much of it
| > could
| > | > have been by simple updates.... so it isn't necessarily a
| > | > better/easier/just
| > | > works OS, its a forced upgrade to get what you want or think you
need,
| > or
| > | > does some more setup FOR YOU.
| > |
| > | Blah, blah. The consumer market tends to buy what's new when they look
| > for
| > | replacements after a few years of using the old one. That's capitalism
| > for
| > | you, not a reasonable comparison of OSes. Again, that's the way it's
| > always
| > | been, and Luddite is the term for people who refuse to participate.
| > Wanna
| > be
| > | a Luddite, OK, but the above is a false argument if you're comparing
the
| > | OSes on their own merits. When it comes to a decision between XP and
98
| > (and
| > | I'm talking about when XP first came out): Hardware support and
| > installation
| > | is a snap. BSODs are rare, (yes, even in those early days.) After the
| > | nightmares in Win9x and NT4 (even Win2K) up to that point in time,
just
| > | those two items probably sold half the units. The whole point is that
| > for
| > | most people, they can run Windows without any major problems, with
about
| > as
| > | much learning involved as most people can stand, and the support is
| > second
| > | only to Apple. People who don't trust Windows use Apple, which has its
| > own
| > | multitude of drawbacks. Just who is going to support your Linux
distros.
| >
| > DUUUUUUUHHHHH, the people who work with it, write the drivers, produce
the
| > applications,, THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD... seems that's like in here and
on
| > the XP and VISTA suport forums, only in those Linux groups you're likely
| > discussing the issues with the actual programmer [error, okay wait
minute
| > I
| > think I know what needs changed,,, okay try this and see if that
corrects
| > the issue *or* that particular chip has a bug in it, I can't fix it
| > without
| > breaking others, but here's a work around Bob worked out which addresses
| > it].......
|
| Have you ever learned the concept of scale? What happens when your distro
| writer gets sick, or just sick of people, or even dead? I know, you'll say
| that if the distro has "legs" it will develop a decent cadre of people
| willing to help with it, but will there also be an ever widening circle of
| happy *programmers* ready to do the same? Or will we pay them via PayPal?
|
| The Linux concept may some day mature (though I personally think it has
some
| fatal flaws), but that day is still far off. Until then, Windows is it.
|
| > SO where's your ludite comparison now... in the toilet... being one of
the
| > cattle has never been my strong suit.
|
| Luddite is the perfect word. Your entire spiel brings to mind
clippety-clop
| music and horse & carriage, though nicely pastoral, scenes (I'm an
American,
| after all). Whether you "moo" or not is up to you.
|
| > And YEEEEAAAAHHHHHH, they can *barely* run Windows, until they mess
| > something up, or Microsoft breaks something in one of is updates [as
| > usual]///// and then we try to help, like we like to do.
|
| If you lived in the real world, you'd know that you just reaffirmed my
| entire thesis. IME, once they learn the basics, MOST people don't need
much
| programming/hardware help with their Windows XP systems. Not from other
| people. Certainly not as much as they need(ed) with Win9x, by orders of
| magnitude. And, again by orders of magnitude, not nearly as much as any
| other OS -- except Mac, because you pay through the nose for stability.
|
| > | > If they actually knew much or had an actual desire to learn, they'd
be
| > | > using one of the Linux clones or other OS. Were it not for the DEEP
| > | > relationship with manufacturers that Microsoft now has, Windows
| > wouldn't
| > | > be
| > | > anywhere near the usage level that it is between the two FORCING
| > Windows
| > | > usage
| > |
| > | Hey, you seem to know a lot. Why are you using Windows? You've got so
| > many
| > | other choices and you already KNOW that all versions of Windows are
POS.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | www.grystmill.com
| >
| > Right, the usual "well you're running Windows" so STF, but I also ran
| > Linux, Xenix, and several other OSs... but I suppose I'm supposed to be
a
| > mindless Windows junky, blindly following the masses, lauding the
VIRTUES
| > of
| > the newest release or whatever is the supposed best version. Don't you
see
| > the comparison to what's occurring now,,, the resistence to move to
VISTA,
| > the spouting of the VALUE of XP as it draws near to support end, its
| > already
| > marked for death,,, how can you FAIL to see the comparison to 98 and
what
| > occurred... what then, spouting how VISTA is now the OS of choice,the
| > super
| > sophisicated, unfailingly superior,, or maybe the new Version 7,, yep...
| > ride that train, or stand back and look at what is occurring
|
| Hey, I just figured you'd have much better places to be. Where you could
| help other users with your *preferred* OS/distro. Sheesh! My question was
| serious: If Windows is such a POS in general, why do you devote so much
time
| to it? Now that I think about it, and from what you've said, I can't
believe
| you actually run it. You wouldn't be that, er, imprudent. But... then....
|
| Vista will be passed over much like ME, and for much the same reasons,
| though perhaps with a better numbers showing than ME, even in relative
| terms. It's a mongrel. Can't really DO anything that XP can't, and what
they
| DID add that isn't just eye-candy, what they actually did at the system
| level, they did very poorly, and I'm not talking about the kinds of things
| you fix with a patch or even an SP. XP Professional can certainly handle
| basic hardware developments for some time to come.
|
| The next Windows system will, as I said, have to be an entirely new
| paradigm. If it can't be that, we may as well stay with WinXP or switch
| provider altogether. But any replacement for Microsoft will have to deal
| with scale and capitalism* as well as Microsoft. Got any candidates?
|
| (*Mass capitalism, where "easy" and "convenient" are the ruling paradigms,
| not "cheap" and certainly not "quality". In fact, now that I think about
it,
| your notions are more than a little communistic, and while I won't debate
| you capitalism vs. communism (we'd probably agree too much to make the
| conversation worth it), we live in a raw, capitalistic world.)
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
|
| > | > | As for security, the main issues involve IE and OE and if Win9x
was
| > | > | supported, they'd be getting just as many patches. As for other
| > things
| > | > that
| > | > | needed fixing, 9x had just as many in relative terms.
| > | > |
| > | > | Look, ANY argument that compares OS security and DOESN'T take into
| > | > account
| > | > | market share, the "biggest bang for the buck" operational theory
of
| > | > malware
| > | > | writers, etc., is pure sophistry.
| > | > |
| > | > | And you didn't deny my original premise, did you?
| > | >
| > | > It wouldn't do any good, but I can see you would be willing to
defend
| > your
| > | > position, I knew you would -]..
| > | >
| > | > |
| > | > | --
| > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > | www.grystmill.com
| > | > |
| > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | news:%23l7eJaOwIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > QT can be used locally, or one can find codex to handle that
| > format
| > in
| > | > | > some
| > | > | > other player which IS being supported.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Right, you DO say that constantly, and you also attempt to
foster
| > the
| > | > | > notion that XP has become the world's favorite because its just
so
| > | > good
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > secure, BS, the reason for increased usage is that it is
difficult
| > to
| > | > find
| > | > | > computer's to support 9X, leaving the only viable Windows choice
| > as
| > | > XP,
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > VISTA is still such a PITA. Try not to buy into the garbage
spewed
| > by
| > | > | > media
| > | > | > and others... OR if you wish, we CAN discuss the POS XP which I
| > DID
| > | > spend
| > | > | > considerable time testing and monitoring... how good its,,, look
| > HERE:
| > | > | >
| > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946480/en-us
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Think everything is fixed,,, guess again...
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > _________
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > --
| > | > _________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:uKoNOPOwIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > | I already told you, that machine has had EVERYTHING installed
on
| > it
| > | > at
| > | > | > one
| > | > | > | time or another, and been through several ISPs and their
| > | > | > branding/helpful
| > | > | > | software, etc.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | But what should she do if she needs QT to play something?
After
| > all,
| > | > | > what
| > | > | > | you say about QT on Windows 98 could be said about Win98
itself.
| > In
| > | > | > fact,
| > | > | > I
| > | > | > | say it fairly regularly in places where people might actually
| > | > listen.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | --
| > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > | > | www.grystmill.com
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | news:uzyZhGOwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > | > Apple's QuickTime for 98 has not been supported for some
time.
| > It
| > | > is
| > | > a
| > | > | > | > security risk, and is severely outdated.
| > | > | > | > Unless you have some special need to use it online, do not
| > allow
| > | > it
| > | > | > access
| > | > | > | > to the Internet.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Are you using AOL or some other ISP which installed this for
| > you?
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > _________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > news:fa1r3490ic78jqm9d8p4mkkvf84r0rcg82@4ax.com...
| > | > | > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote:
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | >Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is? Sygate
| > says
| > it
| > | > was
| > | > | > | > critical that I
| > | > | > | > | >had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time,
and
| > I
| > | > don't
| > | > | > even
| > | > | > | > remember what
| > | > | > | > | >it is. Ginny
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | QuickTime is Apple's video player. It plays *.mov and
*.mp4
| > | > files,
| > | > | > | > | which Windows Media Player will not. Installing it will
also
| > get
| > | > you
| > | > | > | > | endless nags from Apple to upgrade it and iTunes (whether
| > you
| > | > have
| > | > | > | > | iTunes or not).
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | --
| > | > | > | > | Tim Slattery
| > | > | > | > | MS MVP(Shell/User)
| > | > | > | > | Slattery_T@bls.gov
| > | > | > | > | http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
| >
| >
| >
|

 

[CdLSRN]

Well I am doing 2 things at once and not quite sure how to either one. My Quick Time
extensions have disappeared and I can not run any of my little movies (.mov). I get
an Open With box. I need quick time to play them. If there is a more updated Quick
Time, will it work with my machine? After you install Quick Time (any version) from a
cd, can't you just get updates for it? Doesn't it update automatically??
I will follow up with the other msxml question - next.
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
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> This is the post you're talking about elsewhere, Ginny. What's the problem?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:483e04fb$0$15193$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> > Sorry, Gary I got side tracked trying to get online again. I will
> > uninstall that
> > update(4.0sdk).
> > The 2 Q Times are in Internet Options- Control Panel. Q time says if I
> > uninstall it I
> > will uninstall the program it came with. I haven't the slightest idea what
> > it came
> > with . It is not in any of my Programs under Start. Further investigation
> > shows that
> > the version is 2.1.2.59 (Quick Time for Windows) It says it is for
> > Window 95 and is missing QT32INST.EXE AND QTW32EEL.EXE....which is why I
> > can't open
> > it. It says I should uninstall and reinstall but I don't know what CD it
> > would be on
> > to re-install.
> >
> > I will uninstall the 4.0sp1 now, after I make sure I can get online. Gin
> >
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> > news:u44BNBOwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> You still have MSXML 4.0 SP1. Here's some updates you might want to
> >> consider:
> >> First, uninstall that Update we installed that includes the SDK. If
> >> you're
> >> not sure which one, write down any entry that includes MSXML and post it
> >> here. After uninstalling that, then get:
> >>
> >> MSXML 4.0 Service Pack 2 http://tinyurl.com/59qer
> >>
> >> then this patch:
> >> http://tinyurl.com/y6a2sl
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> www.grystmill.com
> >>
> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> news:483cf7f0$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> >> > All three are version 4.10.9404.0 and they were all created 2/4/02.
> >> > msxml4.dll is 80.5 KB, msxml4r.dll is 1.17 MB, msxml4a.dll is 43.5 KB.
> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> >> > news:uJmnbUIwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> >> The date isn't as useful as the version number, Ginny.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> >> www.grystmill.com
> >> >>
> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:483ce3f6$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> >> >> > My msxml4.dll, msxml4a.dll, and msxml4r.dll, were all modified on
> >> >> > February
> >> >> > 4,2002. I
> >> >> > bought the machine from Dell in 1999. XPS T450, desktop.
> >> >> > Ginny
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Etal" <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:g1hu1r$ad1$1@aioe.org...
> >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from,
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If you think it is of importance to find out, and if the
> >> >> >> [msXML4*.*] files haven't been (security-)updated since
> >> >> >> originally installed.
> >> >> >> Then i would check their creation date, and then search the
> >> >> >> HardDiskVolumes for files created that date. If there are many
> >> >> >> files created that day, i'd sort files by modification-date.
> >> >> >> Unfortunately the result-list doesn't have a Creation-date column
> >> >> >> but many times, sometimes even if the application responsible for
> >> >> >> installing the files under investigation have been uninstalled,
> >> >> >> there are other tell-tale files left behind that can shed light
> >> >> >> on it.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> "They can be a terror to your mind and show you how to hold your
> >> >> >> tongue
> >> >> >> They got mystery written all over their forehead"
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

 

[MEB]

11-23-04 about two months after it was issued/offered, then 02-09-06 four
months prior to end.

Well, I don't know why it was removed, it isn't like several other updates
that I have large amounts of error reports saved for.
Your guess is as good as mine, it obviously wasn't completely superceded or
the older outdated update would have been removed as well.

However, looking IN the 11-23-04 IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe offering, it
has no direct indication of 9X support that was normally included. The INFs
are not the usual, yet, as I was doing at that time, it was what I got when
re-downloading whatever iuhist showed was installed for future use. Be
interesting to see if anyone had the actual original offering. Or was that
what you used?

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:OmMmxNUwIHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| "...note the date..." Note what about the date?
|
| And it just goes to show you how much you can trust any particular
write-up
| by MS to be complete.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:O%23kHsJUwIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > Just some further info for those who might be interested.
| >
| > Though previous 98SE iuhist.xml-s did include the update, here's
excerpts
| > from the download page I have saved from 02/09/2006 {note the date}:
| >
| > Download details: Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6
Service
| > Pack 1 (KB823353)
| >
| > Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1
| > (KB823353)
| > This update addresses the vulnerability discussed in Microsoft
| > Security Bulletin MS04-018. To find out if other security updates
| > are available for you, see the Overview section of this page.
| >
| > Quick Info
| > File Name:IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe
| > Download Size:1950 KB
| > Date Published:7/14/2004
| > Version:OE6
| >
| > Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6
| > Service Pack 1 (KB823353)
| > English
| >
| > Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018
| >
| > System Requirements
| > Supported Operating Systems: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2,
| > Windows 2000 Service Pack 3, Windows 2000 Service Pack 4,
| > Windows NT, Windows XP, Windows XP Service Pack 1
| > This update applies to Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
| > with the following operating systems:
| >
| > Windows XP SP1
| > Windows XP
| > Windows 2000 SP2
| > Windows 2000 SP3
| > Windows 2000 SP4
| > Windows NT 4.0 SP6A
| > ------
| >
| > The file I have saved with a date of 11/23/04 was also saved with the
| > download page [same date] which reflects the above information.:
| > Compare to the below date.
| >
| > As example of one of the old iuhist containment {the < have been
removed}:
| >
| > itemStatus xmlns="" timestamp="2004-08-03T05:23:24">
| > identity
| >
itemID="ie60x.internetexplorer6x.ver_platform_win32_windows.4.10.x86.en.....
| > .com_microsoft.q823353_oe6_sp1." name="Q823353_OE6_SP1">
| > publisherName>com_microsoft</publisherName>
| > language>en</language>
| > /identity>
| > description hidden="0">
| > descriptionText>
| > title>Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 SP1
| > (KB823353)</title>
| > eula href="/msdownload/update/v3/static/eula/en/eula.htm"/>
| > details href="http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=19527"/>
| > /descriptionText>
| > /description>
| > platform name="ver_platform_win32_windows">
| > processorArchitecture>x86</processorArchitecture>
| > version major="4" minor="10" build="" servicePackMajor=""
| > servicePackMinor=""/>
| > /platform>
| > <downloadStatus value="COMPLETE"/>
| > <downloadPath>c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q823353_OE6_SP1</downloadPath>
| > <client>IU_Site</client>
| > <installStatus value="COMPLETE" needsReboot="0"/>
| > </itemStatus>
| >
| > {I was wrong it wasn't part of the December update debacle.}
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
| >
| >
|

 

[MEB]

Re: What is Quick Time

Oh right, a cumulative thing, sorry, I missed that.. yeah I guess then I
did, though not into Gary's portion which threw me off....
Can't think of retirement without capitalism in the mix....

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:eUilCHTwIHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| Well yeah, you sorta did when you said how could one quit working?
| And I (essentially) replied, "it's simple - you just downscale")
|
| MEB wrote:
| > Ah ,YOU brought capitalism as an issue, I see NO WHERE in my posts that
| > indicates that.
|
|

 

[CdLSRN]

Spam blocker was not working so I deleted all of Computer Associates, including the
Spam Blocker.

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:483d0f58$0$25057$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>
> I repaired the C.A.spam blocker instead of removing it. I downloaded Sygate5.5.2577
> as 5.6.2808 doesn't support Win 98se.
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Re: What is Quick Time

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O7NB9RUwIHA.576@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Let's just end this with a fact:
>
> Microsoft is attempting to foster open source for its proposed newer
> operating systems... think you can guess WHY... and that pretty much ends
> any debate about just how good XP and Vista are....

Don't be obtuse. That's about as ridiculous a piece of logic as you've
launched all day. IF MS is trying to coopt the open source community (which
is what you claim amounts to), it's because they can't come up with what
they WANTED Vista to be, a whole new OS with a whole new file system and
everything else that everyone, including me, knows are weak points in 2K/XP.

Whereas the "debate" we *were* having, until you changed it again, was one
of comparative OSes that NOW EXIST. I never claimed that XP was the cat's
meow, that it doesn't need replacing, and teh sooner the better. It's just a
LOT better than Windows 9x in almost all respects, and, for the mass
consumer, the only reasonable choice available. (Careful, well-off persons
might choose Mac, instead, especially since they made it run Windows
decently, but only geeks run Linux distros.)

Doesn't mean I think XP is bad, either. I've been using XP since before RTM
and for a lot of various types of real work, using lots of major apps and
minor apps, updating, etc., etc. There have been some stumbles, but nothing
so catastrophic as I'd regularly run into using Win9x, nor as frequent, etc.
I have an abiding appreciation for XP's robustness and breadth of possible
functionality compared to 9x, based upon real use. Lastly, like I said, I
used them both for real work, and didn't have time to figure out anything of
the Linux flavor.

I learned 98 when I was disabled and living in a tiny travel trailer. Once I
found them in the beginning of '99, I had time to participate in the groups,
tear 98 apart, try all kinds of apps, all kinds of cinfigurations, some
hardware changes, even ran a virus just to see what it did, to report to
this group. I used my 98 Upgrade CD, purchased the day it came out, to
reinstall my P200 system many hundreds of times in just a few short months.
Etc., etc. But then I had to go back to work, and didn't have time for much
of that (relatively). And now my brain doesn't work well enough to learn. No
retention. Which is why I haven't even moved to supporting XP. Not qualified
and not up to becoming so.

Once I get a bit more on my feet (maybe next winter), I'll see how Linux has
matured. Last time I tried it (before XP came out) every distro I tried was
a misrerable failure. I don't want to HAVE to build the entire OS from
scratch, practically, just to get my machine running. Didn't even get to
find out if I could get real work done on them. (I was in the publishing
business. Lots of graphics work. I also made money building Access apps and
other odd but very demanding projects.) So, you think any of the distros are
going to make me happy? Will any of them run Photoshop? (No, there is NO
replacement for Photoshop!)

> Sorry not really in this type of debating mood at the moment, still stuck
> in Legal mode [local and distant]...

Sorry, you started it. You want it finished, just stop replying. As for the
legal blah blah, best wishes.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:uHaakITwIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> |
> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:e39giUSwIHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | >
> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > news:O6TJ5MPwIHA.4564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > | news:OWeKt3OwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > | > news:%23k1oCnOwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > | > | Windows XP is no more a POS than 98. I don't use Vista so I
> can't
> | > | > comment,
> | > | > | but I imagine it's the same thing, though I tend to think of
> Vista
> | > as
> | > | > XP's
> | > | > | ME. As for your hardware argument, that's total BS. Windows 98
> lost
> | > it's
> | > | > | market share (dropped into the low single-digits) long before
> new
> | > | > hardware
> | > | > | stopped supporting it.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | People LIKE operating systems that just work. Windows XP is and
> | > always
> | > | > has
> | > | > | been more robust than 98. That's why IT people like it (go
> ahead,
> | > show
> | > | > me
> | > | > a
> | > | > | survey of IT's where 98 is compared favorably with other
> systems.)
> | > | > That's
> | > | > | why home users and SOHO users and everyone else like XP. As for
> | > | > security,
> | > | > | the only difference between now on XP and then on 98 is in the
> | > details.
> | > | >
> | > | > IT goes for what's EASY to use, what seems to be hot, and are just
> as
> | > | > easily mislead as any other party.
> | > | > Just as the home user THOUGHT they were getting a much more secure
> | > system,
> | > | > so did IT. Just as the home user doesn't want to spend much time
> | > learning
> | > | > how to use a computer, so does IT.
> | > | > The relational charcturistics between home and IT or other
> | > professionals
> | > | > runs parallel. Look on the one hand at IT trying to secure their
> | > systems,
> | > | > and the other the web development department attempting to create
> new
> | > | > ways
> | > | > to garner more information via script and other... how smart is
> this.
> | > |
> | > | And your point is? What you describe is how it's always been, and in
> | > fact
> | > I
> | > | DO say that XP makes ALL of those tasks easier. And what makes you
> think
> | > | that IT or home users consider Security the main consideration when
> | > | purchasing a new system? If they know anything, they know it's a
> | > constant
> | > | battle no matter what system you're using, particularly if it's the
> OS
> | > that
> | > | has 80% of the market and makes such a nice big target. They rely
> upon
> | > MS
> | > | and third parties to protect their systems. If they are just as
> savvy
> in
> | > | other things, they'll never have to deal with malware. I certainly
> | > don't,
> | > | and only one or two recalcitrants amongst my clientelle have any
> serious
> | > | problems with their XP systems once I give them "the talk". On the
> other
> | > | hand, I have a few 9x clients left, and they are STILL calling me
> every
> | > few
> | > | months, asking if I can come and clean up some mess.
> | >
> | > Due to>>>> their improper use, same for XP. Because they can't take
> the
> | > time to learn what they are doing..
> | > I referenced what was occurring years ago {1992} its called
> Stupification
> | > [yeah that's mis-spelled.
> |
> | Why should every car driver be a mechanic (I shudder to think...) Should
> | every eater also be a full time farmer? What chaos! Computers are
> | appliances, nothing more. They feed the needs of society, not the
> reverse.
> | They just need to work in the real world, and only the *heavily*
> restricted
> | Apple offerings do that better than Windows PCs.
> |
> | > |
> | > | > The market you reference, showing usage reflects only that people
> CAN
> | > be
> | > | > convinced to use products which they actually know nothing about,
> just
> | > | > because its easier to use and happens to be widely accepted, and
> | > hardware
> | > | > support has NOT been provided in the previous OS, though much of
> it
> | > could
> | > | > have been by simple updates.... so it isn't necessarily a
> | > | > better/easier/just
> | > | > works OS, its a forced upgrade to get what you want or think you
> need,
> | > or
> | > | > does some more setup FOR YOU.
> | > |
> | > | Blah, blah. The consumer market tends to buy what's new when they
> look
> | > for
> | > | replacements after a few years of using the old one. That's
> capitalism
> | > for
> | > | you, not a reasonable comparison of OSes. Again, that's the way it's
> | > always
> | > | been, and Luddite is the term for people who refuse to participate.
> | > Wanna
> | > be
> | > | a Luddite, OK, but the above is a false argument if you're comparing
> the
> | > | OSes on their own merits. When it comes to a decision between XP and
> 98
> | > (and
> | > | I'm talking about when XP first came out): Hardware support and
> | > installation
> | > | is a snap. BSODs are rare, (yes, even in those early days.) After
> the
> | > | nightmares in Win9x and NT4 (even Win2K) up to that point in time,
> just
> | > | those two items probably sold half the units. The whole point is
> that
> | > for
> | > | most people, they can run Windows without any major problems, with
> about
> | > as
> | > | much learning involved as most people can stand, and the support is
> | > second
> | > | only to Apple. People who don't trust Windows use Apple, which has
> its
> | > own
> | > | multitude of drawbacks. Just who is going to support your Linux
> distros.
> | >
> | > DUUUUUUUHHHHH, the people who work with it, write the drivers, produce
> the
> | > applications,, THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD... seems that's like in here
> and
> on
> | > the XP and VISTA suport forums, only in those Linux groups you're
> likely
> | > discussing the issues with the actual programmer [error, okay wait
> minute
> | > I
> | > think I know what needs changed,,, okay try this and see if that
> corrects
> | > the issue *or* that particular chip has a bug in it, I can't fix it
> | > without
> | > breaking others, but here's a work around Bob worked out which
> addresses
> | > it].......
> |
> | Have you ever learned the concept of scale? What happens when your
> distro
> | writer gets sick, or just sick of people, or even dead? I know, you'll
> say
> | that if the distro has "legs" it will develop a decent cadre of people
> | willing to help with it, but will there also be an ever widening circle
> of
> | happy *programmers* ready to do the same? Or will we pay them via
> PayPal?
> |
> | The Linux concept may some day mature (though I personally think it has
> some
> | fatal flaws), but that day is still far off. Until then, Windows is it.
> |
> | > SO where's your ludite comparison now... in the toilet... being one of
> the
> | > cattle has never been my strong suit.
> |
> | Luddite is the perfect word. Your entire spiel brings to mind
> clippety-clop
> | music and horse & carriage, though nicely pastoral, scenes (I'm an
> American,
> | after all). Whether you "moo" or not is up to you.
> |
> | > And YEEEEAAAAHHHHHH, they can *barely* run Windows, until they mess
> | > something up, or Microsoft breaks something in one of is updates [as
> | > usual]///// and then we try to help, like we like to do.
> |
> | If you lived in the real world, you'd know that you just reaffirmed my
> | entire thesis. IME, once they learn the basics, MOST people don't need
> much
> | programming/hardware help with their Windows XP systems. Not from other
> | people. Certainly not as much as they need(ed) with Win9x, by orders of
> | magnitude. And, again by orders of magnitude, not nearly as much as any
> | other OS -- except Mac, because you pay through the nose for stability.
> |
> | > | > If they actually knew much or had an actual desire to learn,
> they'd
> be
> | > | > using one of the Linux clones or other OS. Were it not for the
> DEEP
> | > | > relationship with manufacturers that Microsoft now has, Windows
> | > wouldn't
> | > | > be
> | > | > anywhere near the usage level that it is between the two FORCING
> | > Windows
> | > | > usage
> | > |
> | > | Hey, you seem to know a lot. Why are you using Windows? You've got
> so
> | > many
> | > | other choices and you already KNOW that all versions of Windows are
> POS.
> | > |
> | > | --
> | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | www.grystmill.com
> | >
> | > Right, the usual "well you're running Windows" so STF, but I also ran
> | > Linux, Xenix, and several other OSs... but I suppose I'm supposed to
> be
> a
> | > mindless Windows junky, blindly following the masses, lauding the
> VIRTUES
> | > of
> | > the newest release or whatever is the supposed best version. Don't you
> see
> | > the comparison to what's occurring now,,, the resistence to move to
> VISTA,
> | > the spouting of the VALUE of XP as it draws near to support end, its
> | > already
> | > marked for death,,, how can you FAIL to see the comparison to 98 and
> what
> | > occurred... what then, spouting how VISTA is now the OS of choice,the
> | > super
> | > sophisicated, unfailingly superior,, or maybe the new Version 7,,
> yep...
> | > ride that train, or stand back and look at what is occurring
> |
> | Hey, I just figured you'd have much better places to be. Where you could
> | help other users with your *preferred* OS/distro. Sheesh! My question
> was
> | serious: If Windows is such a POS in general, why do you devote so much
> time
> | to it? Now that I think about it, and from what you've said, I can't
> believe
> | you actually run it. You wouldn't be that, er, imprudent. But...
> then....
> |
> | Vista will be passed over much like ME, and for much the same reasons,
> | though perhaps with a better numbers showing than ME, even in relative
> | terms. It's a mongrel. Can't really DO anything that XP can't, and what
> they
> | DID add that isn't just eye-candy, what they actually did at the system
> | level, they did very poorly, and I'm not talking about the kinds of
> things
> | you fix with a patch or even an SP. XP Professional can certainly handle
> | basic hardware developments for some time to come.
> |
> | The next Windows system will, as I said, have to be an entirely new
> | paradigm. If it can't be that, we may as well stay with WinXP or switch
> | provider altogether. But any replacement for Microsoft will have to deal
> | with scale and capitalism* as well as Microsoft. Got any candidates?
> |
> | (*Mass capitalism, where "easy" and "convenient" are the ruling
> paradigms,
> | not "cheap" and certainly not "quality". In fact, now that I think about
> it,
> | your notions are more than a little communistic, and while I won't
> debate
> | you capitalism vs. communism (we'd probably agree too much to make the
> | conversation worth it), we live in a raw, capitalistic world.)
> |
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> |
> | > | > | As for security, the main issues involve IE and OE and if Win9x
> was
> | > | > | supported, they'd be getting just as many patches. As for other
> | > things
> | > | > that
> | > | > | needed fixing, 9x had just as many in relative terms.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Look, ANY argument that compares OS security and DOESN'T take
> into
> | > | > account
> | > | > | market share, the "biggest bang for the buck" operational theory
> of
> | > | > malware
> | > | > | writers, etc., is pure sophistry.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | And you didn't deny my original premise, did you?
> | > | >
> | > | > It wouldn't do any good, but I can see you would be willing to
> defend
> | > your
> | > | > position, I knew you would -]..
> | > | >
> | > | > |
> | > | > | --
> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > | > |
> | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > | > | news:%23l7eJaOwIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > | > | > QT can be used locally, or one can find codex to handle that
> | > format
> | > in
> | > | > | > some
> | > | > | > other player which IS being supported.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Right, you DO say that constantly, and you also attempt to
> foster
> | > the
> | > | > | > notion that XP has become the world's favorite because its
> just
> so
> | > | > good
> | > | > | > and
> | > | > | > secure, BS, the reason for increased usage is that it is
> difficult
> | > to
> | > | > find
> | > | > | > computer's to support 9X, leaving the only viable Windows
> choice
> | > as
> | > | > XP,
> | > | > | > and
> | > | > | > VISTA is still such a PITA. Try not to buy into the garbage
> spewed
> | > by
> | > | > | > media
> | > | > | > and others... OR if you wish, we CAN discuss the POS XP which
> I
> | > DID
> | > | > spend
> | > | > | > considerable time testing and monitoring... how good its,,,
> look
> | > HERE:
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946480/en-us
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Think everything is fixed,,, guess again...
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > _________
> | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > | > --
> | > | > _________
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > | > | > news:uKoNOPOwIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > | > | > | I already told you, that machine has had EVERYTHING
> installed
> on
> | > it
> | > | > at
> | > | > | > one
> | > | > | > | time or another, and been through several ISPs and their
> | > | > | > branding/helpful
> | > | > | > | software, etc.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | But what should she do if she needs QT to play something?
> After
> | > all,
> | > | > | > what
> | > | > | > | you say about QT on Windows 98 could be said about Win98
> itself.
> | > In
> | > | > | > fact,
> | > | > | > I
> | > | > | > | say it fairly regularly in places where people might
> actually
> | > | > listen.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | --
> | > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | > | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > | > | > | news:uzyZhGOwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | > | > | > | > Apple's QuickTime for 98 has not been supported for some
> time.
> | > It
> | > | > is
> | > | > a
> | > | > | > | > security risk, and is severely outdated.
> | > | > | > | > Unless you have some special need to use it online, do not
> | > allow
> | > | > it
> | > | > | > access
> | > | > | > | > to the Internet.
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > Are you using AOL or some other ISP which installed this
> for
> | > you?
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > | > _________
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
> | > | > | > | > news:fa1r3490ic78jqm9d8p4mkkvf84r0rcg82@4ax.com...
> | > | > | > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote:
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | >Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is? Sygate
> | > says
> | > it
> | > | > was
> | > | > | > | > critical that I
> | > | > | > | > | >had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick Time,
> and
> | > I
> | > | > don't
> | > | > | > even
> | > | > | > | > remember what
> | > | > | > | > | >it is. Ginny
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | QuickTime is Apple's video player. It plays *.mov and
> *.mp4
> | > | > files,
> | > | > | > | > | which Windows Media Player will not. Installing it will
> also
> | > get
> | > | > you
> | > | > | > | > | endless nags from Apple to upgrade it and iTunes
> (whether
> | > you
> | > | > have
> | > | > | > | > | iTunes or not).
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | --
> | > | > | > | > | Tim Slattery
> | > | > | > | > | MS MVP(Shell/User)
> | > | > | > | > | Slattery_T@bls.gov
> | > | > | > | > | http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > --
> | > _________
> | >
> | >
> | >
> |
>
>

 

[CdLSRN]

Re: What is Quick Time

I googled one of the missing Quick Time files QT32INST.EXE downloaded it and ran it
and it repaired Quick Time. It even installed the QTW32DEL.EXE that was missing. Now
I have both of the Quick Time logos QT & QT32 in my add/remove programs and in
Control Panel. I don't believe the QT one works but my movies are playing well,
automatically with the Quick Time 32. So I am leaving it alone as I am sure there are
shared files. Unless anyone has any ideas as to how to get rid of it without hurting
Quick Time 32.


"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:uPfCyEUwIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> I need YOU to be more patient. And to stop posting wherever you feel like
> it. I know this is a long and multi-threaded issue, but it's your
> responsibility to find the proper thread and post to respond to. If you
> think it's missing, then at least go back to the top of this thread ("IE
> works so far", not "What is Quick Time") to post your "I'm lost" post. While
> this was intended to be a wrap-up thread for the original issue, you're now
> tacking new issues onto it, like this whole Sygate/QT thread. No need to
> further muck up the works by adding more to this sub-thread.
>
> So be patient, I have had to answer lots of posts today and some in depth,
> and I've done a lot of research on your part and on the part of others. I
> also had to rebuild my 98 machine, eat, etc., etc. And because you posted
> these MSXML questions here instead of where they belong, *I* have to go
> searching for wherever in this mess the posts regarding MSXML update, etc.,
> is located. I'll post/repost there and answer your question(s) there.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
>
> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:483e2660$0$25036$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> >I need you to read my most recent postings.
> > !. I am confused about the MSXML4sp2 updated and what to delete. I need it
> > explained more clearly, please.
> > 2. Quick Time doesn't have an uninstaller. When I hit add/remove programs
> > it
> > said it was uninstalling my Camedia (the program I attach my digital
> > camera
> > to the computer...that was o.k.
> > But, there is nothing that says uninstall quick Time, It only gives the
> > option to remove extensions. (in add/remove programs) and it says that I
> > shouldn't do that.
> > In Internet Options when I click it. It tells me that I should uninstall
> > and
> > install again as I am missing 2 exe files.
> > If I put the CD in the drive....will that give me an option to uninstall?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gary S. Terhune" <none>
> > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: IE Running well so far
> >
> >
> >> Then you DO have that very old version MEB was talking about. You should
> >> uninstall it, then hope your banking site doesn't require it. Might just
> >> look different but still work. (I thought I had a link to the last
> >> version
> >> that worked with Win98, but I'll have to look deeper.)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> www.grystmill.com
> >>
> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> news:483e04fb$0$15193$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> >> > Sorry, Gary I got side tracked trying to get online again. I will
> >> > uninstall that
> >> > update(4.0sdk).
> >> > The 2 Q Times are in Internet Options- Control Panel. Q time says if I
> >> > uninstall it I
> >> > will uninstall the program it came with. I haven't the slightest idea
> > what
> >> > it came
> >> > with . It is not in any of my Programs under Start. Further
> > investigation
> >> > shows that
> >> > the version is 2.1.2.59 (Quick Time for Windows) It says it is for
> >> > Window 95 and is missing QT32INST.EXE AND QTW32EEL.EXE....which is why
> >> > I
> >> > can't open
> >> > it. It says I should uninstall and reinstall but I don't know what CD
> > it
> >> > would be on
> >> > to re-install.
> >> >
> >> > I will uninstall the 4.0sp1 now, after I make sure I can get online.
> > Gin
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> >> > news:u44BNBOwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> You still have MSXML 4.0 SP1. Here's some updates you might want to
> >> >> consider:
> >> >> First, uninstall that Update we installed that includes the SDK. If
> >> >> you're
> >> >> not sure which one, write down any entry that includes MSXML and post
> > it
> >> >> here. After uninstalling that, then get:
> >> >>
> >> >> MSXML 4.0 Service Pack 2 http://tinyurl.com/59qer
> >> >>
> >> >> then this patch:
> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/y6a2sl
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> >> www.grystmill.com
> >> >>
> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:483cf7f0$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> >> >> > All three are version 4.10.9404.0 and they were all created 2/4/02.
> >> >> > msxml4.dll is 80.5 KB, msxml4r.dll is 1.17 MB, msxml4a.dll is 43.5
> > KB.
> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:483e234b$0$25024$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> >> One of my posts has 'gone missing' and I'm sitting here unclear about how
> >> to do
> > this
> >> service patch . I downloaded msxml4-KB927978-enu.exe (file version
> >> 1)....., (I
> > typed
> >> in tinyurl.com/y6a2sl and it redirected me to this MSXML 4.0 Service
> >> Pack2
> >> (Microsoft XML Core Services) - I think that is what I downloaded. Is
> >> that the
> > first
> >> one or the second one??
> >> Also....What am I supposed to post here and uninstall from my system???
> >> I am
> >> confused. Thanks. Gin
> >>
> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> >> news:eVflMSTwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> > Sygate uses a database that started out blank. *Everything* you do for
> >> > a
> >> > while will be a "change" to Sygate. If it's a program you recognize,
> >> > then,
> >> > short of doing a lot more research, you have no choice but to trust
> >> > that
> >> > it's not a malware DLL in disguise, and approve the update to Sygate's
> >> > database. Once you've finished training it, then when it says "change"
> >> > it
> >> > will almost always actually mean "change". Then you are expected to be
> >> > able
> >> > to remember recent changes to your system and update Sygate
> >> > appropriately.
> >> >
> >> > If it's a question you have about the program that is being cited, like
> >> > you
> >> > did with QT, then you do as you did: ask about it, do some research.
> >> > But try
> >> > to refrain from acting on our advice, or even stuff you read elsewhere
> >> > using
> >> > Google, etc., too quickly, not even mine, in case there's an important
> >> > (or
> >> > even minor) correction, contradiction or addendum to that advice in the
> >> > near
> >> > future.
> >> >
> >> > In this case, besides just what QT stands for, you should have learned
> >> > enough in this thread to ask yourself, "Just how old IS that QuickTime
> >> > of
> >> > mine, anyway?" and "Maybe I should uninstall it and then install the
> >> > latest
> >> > version if I find I need it later." So, in a way, Sygate is teaching
> >> > you,
> >> > too.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Gary S. Terhune
> >> > MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> > www.grystmill.com
> >> >
> >> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:483df8c8$0$25052$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> >> > >I don't mind training something. I simply dont know if it is o.k. to
> >> > >allow
> >> > >every
> >> > > program to add new .dlls to my Internet Explorer and Outlook
> >> > > Express. If
> >> > > it is
> >> > > harmless, I will simply say yes. and go about my business. But it
> >> > > seems to
> >> > > me we
> >> > > spent an awful lot of time getting rid of .dlls that didn't belong
> >> > > and
> >> > > putting in
> >> > > .dlls that had disappeared. My question was simple. Do I allow my
> >> > > Internet
> >> > > Explorer
> >> > > and Outlook Express to be changed by my programs.
> >> > > It doesn't say that Sygate is changing anything. It is Sygate
> >> > > reporting to
> >> > > me that
> >> > > these programs are changing my IE & OE. I assumed that before Sygate,
> >> > > my
> >> > > programs
> >> > > were doing this but I just didn't know. Am I making any sense?
> >> > >
> >> > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> >> > > news:%239wnV0RwIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> > >> My guess is that the page you went to includes items that are viewed
> >> > >> using a
> >> > >> QT plugin. What you describe (QT and QT32) sound like plugins and
> >> > >> they
> >> > >> are
> >> > >> just different versions of the same thing (16-bit and 32-bit),
> >> > >> installed
> >> > >> by
> >> > >> the same installer. Where are these things listed in Internet
> >> > >> Options? On
> >> > >> what tab, under what button? (Sorry, I can't check against my system
> >> > >> as I
> >> > >> am
> >> > >> in the process of rebuilding it.) Anyway, if it bugs you, just
> >> > >> uninstall
> >> > >> QT
> >> > >> in Add/Remove Programs and see what happens. You can always go back
> >> > >> and
> >> > >> reinstall it if you discover you need it.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> But your biggest problem is that you can't stand having to train
> >> > >> that
> >> > >> firewall. If you aren't willing to go through that process,
> >> > >> uninstall it
> >> > >> and
> >> > >> either use something else or nothing at all. You already have pretty
> >> > >> decent
> >> > >> protection against intrusion. Believe me, that firewall isn't done
> >> > >> bugging
> >> > >> you, not by a LONG shot.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> > >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> > >> www.grystmill.com
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:483de66d$0$11610$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> >> > >> >I have Quick Time and Quick Time32 in my Internet Options. I have
> >> > >> >Quick
> >> > >> >Time in
> >> > >> > Add/Remove programs. I went to Chase to transfer some money to my
> >> > >> > son
> >> > >> > and
> >> > >> > another
> >> > >> > popup occurred saying: "Quick Time has install the following (long
> >> > >> > list)
> >> > >> > of
> >> > >> > components to your system, do you want them to access the
> >> > >> > internet."
> >> > >> > Why
> >> > >> > would I want
> >> > >> > them to access the internet and change my Internet Explorer while
> >> > >> > I am
> >> > >> > trying to do
> >> > >> > banking??? When I said 'no' , I was unable to continue. I would
> >> > >> > like to
> >> > >> > uninstall
> >> > >> > both of them. (I only have uninstall for QT) and I don't know what
> >> > >> > QT32
> >> > >> > is!!! A
> >> > >> > little hint please. I am going to try again to get into my bank.
> >> > >> > Ginny
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> >> > >> > news:utbNAQRwIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> > >> >> Don't be. It's not your fault MEB got up on the wrong side of the
> >> > >> >> bed
> >> > >> >> this
> >> > >> >> morning and/or is otherwise distracted, or so it seems. Though I
> >> > >> >> must
> >> > >> >> say
> >> > >> >> it's interesting to see his true colors when it comes to his
> >> > >> >> feelings
> >> > >> >> about
> >> > >> >> XP.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> --
> >> > >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> > >> >> www.grystmill.com
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> > >> >> news:483dd8cc$1$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> >> > >> >> > Sorry I asked!!! Ginny
> >> > >> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Re: What is Quick Time

Capitalism is the elephant in the room when you start comparing OSes. Sits
there and laughs at the Open Source people. Open Source, lacking the backing
of HUGE amounts of capital, will never make it into Dick & Jane's living
room, home office, pocket, what have you. Without Microsoft and the PC, both
primo examples of Capitalism with a capital C, we'd still be living in the
computer stone ages.

When it comes to mass sales of computers as appliances, 9x is the past,
2K/XP/Vista (and Mac) is the now, and NOBODY has any good idea what the
future will bring, which means whatever it is ain't gettin' here any time
soon.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uLI$0fUwIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Oh right, a cumulative thing, sorry, I missed that.. yeah I guess then I
> did, though not into Gary's portion which threw me off....
> Can't think of retirement without capitalism in the mix....
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:eUilCHTwIHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | Well yeah, you sorta did when you said how could one quit working?
> | And I (essentially) replied, "it's simple - you just downscale")
> |
> | MEB wrote:
> | > Ah ,YOU brought capitalism as an issue, I see NO WHERE in my posts
> that
> | > indicates that.
> |
> |
>
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Good idea.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:483e479a$0$25066$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> Spam blocker was not working so I deleted all of Computer Associates,
> including the
> Spam Blocker.
>
> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:483d0f58$0$25057$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>
>> I repaired the C.A.spam blocker instead of removing it. I downloaded
>> Sygate5.5.2577
>> as 5.6.2808 doesn't support Win 98se.
>>
>
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Re: What is Quick Time

Leave it for now. I'll have you a full answer tomorrow if I can. What you've
probably got is the same ancient, dangerous, version that MEB was
complaining about. We need to find the latest version that will still run on
9x. I'm may have it, but I'm in the middle of rebuilding my 98 box so I
can't test and make sure, know how to instruct you in its installation, etc.

(Actually, I coulda sworn I found v.6 on the QT site and that it works with
Win98, but I guess I'll have to go through my History to find it. Assuming I
don't already have it. Latest version I could find quickly was one I
downloaded in late '05.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:483e4acf$0$25060$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>I googled one of the missing Quick Time files QT32INST.EXE downloaded it
>and ran it
> and it repaired Quick Time. It even installed the QTW32DEL.EXE that was
> missing. Now
> I have both of the Quick Time logos QT & QT32 in my add/remove programs
> and in
> Control Panel. I don't believe the QT one works but my movies are playing
> well,
> automatically with the Quick Time 32. So I am leaving it alone as I am
> sure there are
> shared files. Unless anyone has any ideas as to how to get rid of it
> without hurting
> Quick Time 32.
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:uPfCyEUwIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> I need YOU to be more patient. And to stop posting wherever you feel like
>> it. I know this is a long and multi-threaded issue, but it's your
>> responsibility to find the proper thread and post to respond to. If you
>> think it's missing, then at least go back to the top of this thread ("IE
>> works so far", not "What is Quick Time") to post your "I'm lost" post.
>> While
>> this was intended to be a wrap-up thread for the original issue, you're
>> now
>> tacking new issues onto it, like this whole Sygate/QT thread. No need to
>> further muck up the works by adding more to this sub-thread.
>>
>> So be patient, I have had to answer lots of posts today and some in
>> depth,
>> and I've done a lot of research on your part and on the part of others. I
>> also had to rebuild my 98 machine, eat, etc., etc. And because you posted
>> these MSXML questions here instead of where they belong, *I* have to go
>> searching for wherever in this mess the posts regarding MSXML update,
>> etc.,
>> is located. I'll post/repost there and answer your question(s) there.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>>
>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:483e2660$0$25036$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >I need you to read my most recent postings.
>> > !. I am confused about the MSXML4sp2 updated and what to delete. I need
>> > it
>> > explained more clearly, please.
>> > 2. Quick Time doesn't have an uninstaller. When I hit add/remove
>> > programs
>> > it
>> > said it was uninstalling my Camedia (the program I attach my digital
>> > camera
>> > to the computer...that was o.k.
>> > But, there is nothing that says uninstall quick Time, It only gives the
>> > option to remove extensions. (in add/remove programs) and it says that
>> > I
>> > shouldn't do that.
>> > In Internet Options when I click it. It tells me that I should
>> > uninstall
>> > and
>> > install again as I am missing 2 exe files.
>> > If I put the CD in the drive....will that give me an option to
>> > uninstall?
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Gary S. Terhune" <none>
>> > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:21 PM
>> > Subject: Re: IE Running well so far
>> >
>> >
>> >> Then you DO have that very old version MEB was talking about. You
>> >> should
>> >> uninstall it, then hope your banking site doesn't require it. Might
>> >> just
>> >> look different but still work. (I thought I had a link to the last
>> >> version
>> >> that worked with Win98, but I'll have to look deeper.)
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >>
>> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:483e04fb$0$15193$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> > Sorry, Gary I got side tracked trying to get online again. I will
>> >> > uninstall that
>> >> > update(4.0sdk).
>> >> > The 2 Q Times are in Internet Options- Control Panel. Q time says if
>> >> > I
>> >> > uninstall it I
>> >> > will uninstall the program it came with. I haven't the slightest
>> >> > idea
>> > what
>> >> > it came
>> >> > with . It is not in any of my Programs under Start. Further
>> > investigation
>> >> > shows that
>> >> > the version is 2.1.2.59 (Quick Time for Windows) It says it is for
>> >> > Window 95 and is missing QT32INST.EXE AND QTW32EEL.EXE....which is
>> >> > why
>> >> > I
>> >> > can't open
>> >> > it. It says I should uninstall and reinstall but I don't know what
>> >> > CD
>> > it
>> >> > would be on
>> >> > to re-install.
>> >> >
>> >> > I will uninstall the 4.0sp1 now, after I make sure I can get online.
>> > Gin
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> >> > news:u44BNBOwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> You still have MSXML 4.0 SP1. Here's some updates you might want to
>> >> >> consider:
>> >> >> First, uninstall that Update we installed that includes the SDK. If
>> >> >> you're
>> >> >> not sure which one, write down any entry that includes MSXML and
>> >> >> post
>> > it
>> >> >> here. After uninstalling that, then get:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> MSXML 4.0 Service Pack 2 http://tinyurl.com/59qer
>> >> >>
>> >> >> then this patch:
>> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/y6a2sl
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:483cf7f0$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> >> > All three are version 4.10.9404.0 and they were all created
>> >> >> > 2/4/02.
>> >> >> > msxml4.dll is 80.5 KB, msxml4r.dll is 1.17 MB, msxml4a.dll is
>> >> >> > 43.5
>> > KB.
>> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> > news:483e234b$0$25024$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> One of my posts has 'gone missing' and I'm sitting here unclear about
>> >> how
>> >> to do
>> > this
>> >> service patch . I downloaded msxml4-KB927978-enu.exe (file version
>> >> 1)....., (I
>> > typed
>> >> in tinyurl.com/y6a2sl and it redirected me to this MSXML 4.0 Service
>> >> Pack2
>> >> (Microsoft XML Core Services) - I think that is what I downloaded. Is
>> >> that the
>> > first
>> >> one or the second one??
>> >> Also....What am I supposed to post here and uninstall from my
>> >> system???
>> >> I am
>> >> confused. Thanks. Gin
>> >>
>> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> >> news:eVflMSTwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Sygate uses a database that started out blank. *Everything* you do
>> >> > for
>> >> > a
>> >> > while will be a "change" to Sygate. If it's a program you recognize,
>> >> > then,
>> >> > short of doing a lot more research, you have no choice but to trust
>> >> > that
>> >> > it's not a malware DLL in disguise, and approve the update to
>> >> > Sygate's
>> >> > database. Once you've finished training it, then when it says
>> >> > "change"
>> >> > it
>> >> > will almost always actually mean "change". Then you are expected to
>> >> > be
>> >> > able
>> >> > to remember recent changes to your system and update Sygate
>> >> > appropriately.
>> >> >
>> >> > If it's a question you have about the program that is being cited,
>> >> > like
>> >> > you
>> >> > did with QT, then you do as you did: ask about it, do some research.
>> >> > But try
>> >> > to refrain from acting on our advice, or even stuff you read
>> >> > elsewhere
>> >> > using
>> >> > Google, etc., too quickly, not even mine, in case there's an
>> >> > important
>> >> > (or
>> >> > even minor) correction, contradiction or addendum to that advice in
>> >> > the
>> >> > near
>> >> > future.
>> >> >
>> >> > In this case, besides just what QT stands for, you should have
>> >> > learned
>> >> > enough in this thread to ask yourself, "Just how old IS that
>> >> > QuickTime
>> >> > of
>> >> > mine, anyway?" and "Maybe I should uninstall it and then install the
>> >> > latest
>> >> > version if I find I need it later." So, in a way, Sygate is teaching
>> >> > you,
>> >> > too.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Gary S. Terhune
>> >> > MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> > www.grystmill.com
>> >> >
>> >> > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:483df8c8$0$25052$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> > >I don't mind training something. I simply dont know if it is o.k.
>> >> > >to
>> >> > >allow
>> >> > >every
>> >> > > program to add new .dlls to my Internet Explorer and Outlook
>> >> > > Express. If
>> >> > > it is
>> >> > > harmless, I will simply say yes. and go about my business. But it
>> >> > > seems to
>> >> > > me we
>> >> > > spent an awful lot of time getting rid of .dlls that didn't belong
>> >> > > and
>> >> > > putting in
>> >> > > .dlls that had disappeared. My question was simple. Do I allow my
>> >> > > Internet
>> >> > > Explorer
>> >> > > and Outlook Express to be changed by my programs.
>> >> > > It doesn't say that Sygate is changing anything. It is Sygate
>> >> > > reporting to
>> >> > > me that
>> >> > > these programs are changing my IE & OE. I assumed that before
>> >> > > Sygate,
>> >> > > my
>> >> > > programs
>> >> > > were doing this but I just didn't know. Am I making any sense?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> >> > > news:%239wnV0RwIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> > >> My guess is that the page you went to includes items that are
>> >> > >> viewed
>> >> > >> using a
>> >> > >> QT plugin. What you describe (QT and QT32) sound like plugins and
>> >> > >> they
>> >> > >> are
>> >> > >> just different versions of the same thing (16-bit and 32-bit),
>> >> > >> installed
>> >> > >> by
>> >> > >> the same installer. Where are these things listed in Internet
>> >> > >> Options? On
>> >> > >> what tab, under what button? (Sorry, I can't check against my
>> >> > >> system
>> >> > >> as I
>> >> > >> am
>> >> > >> in the process of rebuilding it.) Anyway, if it bugs you, just
>> >> > >> uninstall
>> >> > >> QT
>> >> > >> in Add/Remove Programs and see what happens. You can always go
>> >> > >> back
>> >> > >> and
>> >> > >> reinstall it if you discover you need it.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> But your biggest problem is that you can't stand having to train
>> >> > >> that
>> >> > >> firewall. If you aren't willing to go through that process,
>> >> > >> uninstall it
>> >> > >> and
>> >> > >> either use something else or nothing at all. You already have
>> >> > >> pretty
>> >> > >> decent
>> >> > >> protection against intrusion. Believe me, that firewall isn't
>> >> > >> done
>> >> > >> bugging
>> >> > >> you, not by a LONG shot.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> --
>> >> > >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> > >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> > >> www.grystmill.com
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> > >> news:483de66d$0$11610$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> > >> >I have Quick Time and Quick Time32 in my Internet Options. I
>> >> > >> >have
>> >> > >> >Quick
>> >> > >> >Time in
>> >> > >> > Add/Remove programs. I went to Chase to transfer some money to
>> >> > >> > my
>> >> > >> > son
>> >> > >> > and
>> >> > >> > another
>> >> > >> > popup occurred saying: "Quick Time has install the following
>> >> > >> > (long
>> >> > >> > list)
>> >> > >> > of
>> >> > >> > components to your system, do you want them to access the
>> >> > >> > internet."
>> >> > >> > Why
>> >> > >> > would I want
>> >> > >> > them to access the internet and change my Internet Explorer
>> >> > >> > while
>> >> > >> > I am
>> >> > >> > trying to do
>> >> > >> > banking??? When I said 'no' , I was unable to continue. I would
>> >> > >> > like to
>> >> > >> > uninstall
>> >> > >> > both of them. (I only have uninstall for QT) and I don't know
>> >> > >> > what
>> >> > >> > QT32
>> >> > >> > is!!! A
>> >> > >> > little hint please. I am going to try again to get into my
>> >> > >> > bank.
>> >> > >> > Ginny
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> >> > >> > news:utbNAQRwIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> > >> >> Don't be. It's not your fault MEB got up on the wrong side of
>> >> > >> >> the
>> >> > >> >> bed
>> >> > >> >> this
>> >> > >> >> morning and/or is otherwise distracted, or so it seems. Though
>> >> > >> >> I
>> >> > >> >> must
>> >> > >> >> say
>> >> > >> >> it's interesting to see his true colors when it comes to his
>> >> > >> >> feelings
>> >> > >> >> about
>> >> > >> >> XP.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> --
>> >> > >> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> > >> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> > >> >> news:483dd8cc$1$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> > >> >> > Sorry I asked!!! Ginny
>> >> > >> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

No, we downloaded it last night or the night before, whenever it was.

As for it's 9x compatibility, all I knew was that it had been installed on a
9x system and that the trail of KB + Security Bulletin led to a link that
said, "For IESP1, all versions of Windows." And it worked. Makes me want to
check a few other supposedly non-9x Updates. Not enough to actually do it,
but just a little.

Actually, sounds like a job for you, <eg>.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%234qcxcUwIHA.5448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> 11-23-04 about two months after it was issued/offered, then 02-09-06 four
> months prior to end.
>
> Well, I don't know why it was removed, it isn't like several other updates
> that I have large amounts of error reports saved for.
> Your guess is as good as mine, it obviously wasn't completely superceded
> or
> the older outdated update would have been removed as well.
>
> However, looking IN the 11-23-04 IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe offering,
> it
> has no direct indication of 9X support that was normally included. The
> INFs
> are not the usual, yet, as I was doing at that time, it was what I got
> when
> re-downloading whatever iuhist showed was installed for future use. Be
> interesting to see if anyone had the actual original offering. Or was that
> what you used?
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:OmMmxNUwIHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | "...note the date..." Note what about the date?
> |
> | And it just goes to show you how much you can trust any particular
> write-up
> | by MS to be complete.
> |
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:O%23kHsJUwIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > Just some further info for those who might be interested.
> | >
> | > Though previous 98SE iuhist.xml-s did include the update, here's
> excerpts
> | > from the download page I have saved from 02/09/2006 {note the date}:
> | >
> | > Download details: Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6
> Service
> | > Pack 1 (KB823353)
> | >
> | > Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1
> | > (KB823353)
> | > This update addresses the vulnerability discussed in Microsoft
> | > Security Bulletin MS04-018. To find out if other security updates
> | > are available for you, see the Overview section of this page.
> | >
> | > Quick Info
> | > File Name:IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe
> | > Download Size:1950 KB
> | > Date Published:7/14/2004
> | > Version:OE6
> | >
> | > Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6
> | > Service Pack 1 (KB823353)
> | > English
> | >
> | > Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018
> | >
> | > System Requirements
> | > Supported Operating Systems: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2,
> | > Windows 2000 Service Pack 3, Windows 2000 Service Pack 4,
> | > Windows NT, Windows XP, Windows XP Service Pack 1
> | > This update applies to Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
> | > with the following operating systems:
> | >
> | > Windows XP SP1
> | > Windows XP
> | > Windows 2000 SP2
> | > Windows 2000 SP3
> | > Windows 2000 SP4
> | > Windows NT 4.0 SP6A
> | > ------
> | >
> | > The file I have saved with a date of 11/23/04 was also saved with the
> | > download page [same date] which reflects the above information.:
> | > Compare to the below date.
> | >
> | > As example of one of the old iuhist containment {the < have been
> removed}:
> | >
> | > itemStatus xmlns="" timestamp="2004-08-03T05:23:24">
> | > identity
> | >
> itemID="ie60x.internetexplorer6x.ver_platform_win32_windows.4.10.x86.en.....
> | > .com_microsoft.q823353_oe6_sp1." name="Q823353_OE6_SP1">
> | > publisherName>com_microsoft</publisherName>
> | > language>en</language>
> | > /identity>
> | > description hidden="0">
> | > descriptionText>
> | > title>Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 SP1
> | > (KB823353)</title>
> | > eula href="/msdownload/update/v3/static/eula/en/eula.htm"/>
> | > details href="http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=19527"/>
> | > /descriptionText>
> | > /description>
> | > platform name="ver_platform_win32_windows">
> | > processorArchitecture>x86</processorArchitecture>
> | > version major="4" minor="10" build="" servicePackMajor=""
> | > servicePackMinor=""/>
> | > /platform>
> | > <downloadStatus value="COMPLETE"/>
> | > <downloadPath>c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q823353_OE6_SP1</downloadPath>
> | > <client>IU_Site</client>
> | > <installStatus value="COMPLETE" needsReboot="0"/>
> | > </itemStatus>
> | >
> | > {I was wrong it wasn't part of the December update debacle.}
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > --
> | > _________
> | >
> | >
> |
>
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

This message is obsolete, right? You fixed your QT? Or did that other report
of success turn out to be a false alarm?

In any case, please don't reply here, keep the discussion in the other
thread, the one that is labeled appropriately. I'll come back to it
tomorrow.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:483e3288$0$15174$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> Well I am doing 2 things at once and not quite sure how to either one. My
> Quick Time
> extensions have disappeared and I can not run any of my little movies
> (.mov). I get
> an Open With box. I need quick time to play them. If there is a more
> updated Quick
> Time, will it work with my machine? After you install Quick Time (any
> version) from a
> cd, can't you just get updates for it? Doesn't it update automatically??
> I will follow up with the other msxml question - next.
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:eZbqyEUwIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> This is the post you're talking about elsewhere, Ginny. What's the
>> problem?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:483e04fb$0$15193$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> > Sorry, Gary I got side tracked trying to get online again. I will
>> > uninstall that
>> > update(4.0sdk).
>> > The 2 Q Times are in Internet Options- Control Panel. Q time says if I
>> > uninstall it I
>> > will uninstall the program it came with. I haven't the slightest idea
>> > what
>> > it came
>> > with . It is not in any of my Programs under Start. Further
>> > investigation
>> > shows that
>> > the version is 2.1.2.59 (Quick Time for Windows) It says it is for
>> > Window 95 and is missing QT32INST.EXE AND QTW32EEL.EXE....which is why
>> > I
>> > can't open
>> > it. It says I should uninstall and reinstall but I don't know what CD
>> > it
>> > would be on
>> > to re-install.
>> >
>> > I will uninstall the 4.0sp1 now, after I make sure I can get online.
>> > Gin
>> >
>> >
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> > news:u44BNBOwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> You still have MSXML 4.0 SP1. Here's some updates you might want to
>> >> consider:
>> >> First, uninstall that Update we installed that includes the SDK. If
>> >> you're
>> >> not sure which one, write down any entry that includes MSXML and post
>> >> it
>> >> here. After uninstalling that, then get:
>> >>
>> >> MSXML 4.0 Service Pack 2 http://tinyurl.com/59qer
>> >>
>> >> then this patch:
>> >> http://tinyurl.com/y6a2sl
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >>
>> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:483cf7f0$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> > All three are version 4.10.9404.0 and they were all created 2/4/02.
>> >> > msxml4.dll is 80.5 KB, msxml4r.dll is 1.17 MB, msxml4a.dll is 43.5
>> >> > KB.
>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> >> > news:uJmnbUIwIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> The date isn't as useful as the version number, Ginny.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:483ce3f6$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> >> > My msxml4.dll, msxml4a.dll, and msxml4r.dll, were all modified on
>> >> >> > February
>> >> >> > 4,2002. I
>> >> >> > bought the machine from Dell in 1999. XPS T450, desktop.
>> >> >> > Ginny
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Etal" <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:g1hu1r$ad1$1@aioe.org...
>> >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from,
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> If you think it is of importance to find out, and if the
>> >> >> >> [msXML4*.*] files haven't been (security-)updated since
>> >> >> >> originally installed.
>> >> >> >> Then i would check their creation date, and then search the
>> >> >> >> HardDiskVolumes for files created that date. If there are many
>> >> >> >> files created that day, i'd sort files by modification-date.
>> >> >> >> Unfortunately the result-list doesn't have a Creation-date
>> >> >> >> column
>> >> >> >> but many times, sometimes even if the application responsible
>> >> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> installing the files under investigation have been uninstalled,
>> >> >> >> there are other tell-tale files left behind that can shed light
>> >> >> >> on it.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> "They can be a terror to your mind and show you how to hold your
>> >> >> >> tongue
>> >> >> >> They got mystery written all over their forehead"
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Re: What is Quick Time

This is already old, but...

Reinstall Cammedia Master 4.2 and DO NOT install the QT on the CD. That is
not the version you have currently installed.

We'll leave the rest in re QT for tomorrow.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:483e2e1c$0$15163$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>I uninstalled Camedia Master 4.2, but the Quick Time that came with it (the
>CD came
> with my Olympus digital camera) stayed behind. It says it needs 2 exe
> files. If I
> put the CD IN will I be able to remove the quick time. I remember I do
> have files
> that run with quick time. Little movies of Frankie (less than a minute),
> but
> priceless. I wouldn't want to lose them.
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:%23i%23gN2TwIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Don't reinstall it. If you need it for anything, there are much more
>> recent
>> versions that will work on Win98.
>>
>> As for your camera, I don't understand. What application is it that you
>> use?
>> What's the name? Did the CD come with the camera? Does it possibly just
>> also
>> happen to have QT the CD? Can you install the viewer separately?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:483e12de$0$15193$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> > That's what I thought! But when I went to 'Chase', Sygate told me that
>> > a
>> > whole list
>> > of about 10 .dlls HAD BEEN INSTALLED by Quick Time and asked if I want
>> > to
>> > allow them
>> > through the firewall, online. I said 'no' and got a message that the
>> > page
>> > was
>> > unavailable. I had to do my banking...so the next time I said yes and
>> > did
>> > my banking.
>> > I guess I just have to assume that Sygate knows what it's doing
>> >
>> > Then I went into a clean boot, went to add/remove programs and tried to
>> > uninstall
>> > Quick Time (it recommends uninstalling and reinstalling.) When I
>> > clicked
>> > on it to
>> > uninstall, It said that "the program it came with would be
>> > uninstalled'.
>> > Since I
>> > didn't know which program, I backed out. I looked through my CD's and
>> > found the
>> > program that downloads my pictures from my digital camera to the
>> > computer
>> > came with
>> > Quick Time. But from there I store my pictures on my C drive. So I
>> > will
>> > not lose any
>> > pictures by removing it and reinstalling it, so I will go ahead and do
>> > that.
>> > If you have any other ideas about the dlls and Sygagte, let me know
>> > Ginny
>> >
>> > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:OiXKs2SwIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> Not to take Gary's place, but are these actually being changed or are
>> >> they
>> >> just being called for?
>> >> DLLs are dynamic link libraries which generally are NOT changed that
>> >> much
>> >> but by updates applied by YOU. If you're finished updating then they
>> >> should
>> >> be stable.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>> >> --
>> >> _________
>> >>
>> >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:483df8c8$0$25052$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> | I don't mind training something. I simply dont know if it is o.k.
>> >> to
>> >> allow every
>> >> | program to add new .dlls to my Internet Explorer and Outlook
>> >> Express.
>> >> If
>> >> it is
>> >> | harmless, I will simply say yes. and go about my business. But it
>> >> seems
>> >> to
>> >> me we
>> >> | spent an awful lot of time getting rid of .dlls that didn't belong
>> >> and
>> >> putting in
>> >> | .dlls that had disappeared. My question was simple. Do I allow my
>> >> Internet
>> >> Explorer
>> >> | and Outlook Express to be changed by my programs.
>> >> | It doesn't say that Sygate is changing anything. It is Sygate
>> >> reporting
>> >> to me that
>> >> | these programs are changing my IE & OE. I assumed that before
>> >> Sygate,
>> >> my
>> >> programs
>> >> | were doing this but I just didn't know. Am I making any sense?
>> >> |
>> >> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> >> | news:%239wnV0RwIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> | > My guess is that the page you went to includes items that are
>> >> viewed
>> >> using a
>> >> | > QT plugin. What you describe (QT and QT32) sound like plugins and
>> >> they
>> >> are
>> >> | > just different versions of the same thing (16-bit and 32-bit),
>> >> installed
>> >> by
>> >> | > the same installer. Where are these things listed in Internet
>> >> Options?
>> >> On
>> >> | > what tab, under what button? (Sorry, I can't check against my
>> >> system
>> >> as
>> >> I am
>> >> | > in the process of rebuilding it.) Anyway, if it bugs you, just
>> >> uninstall
>> >> QT
>> >> | > in Add/Remove Programs and see what happens. You can always go
>> >> back
>> >> and
>> >> | > reinstall it if you discover you need it.
>> >> | >
>> >> | > But your biggest problem is that you can't stand having to train
>> >> that
>> >> | > firewall. If you aren't willing to go through that process,
>> >> uninstall
>> >> it
>> >> and
>> >> | > either use something else or nothing at all. You already have
>> >> pretty
>> >> decent
>> >> | > protection against intrusion. Believe me, that firewall isn't done
>> >> bugging
>> >> | > you, not by a LONG shot.
>> >> | >
>> >> | > --
>> >> | > Gary S. Terhune
>> >> | > MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> | > www.grystmill.com
>> >> | >
>> >> | >
>> >> | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> | > news:483de66d$0$11610$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> | > >I have Quick Time and Quick Time32 in my Internet Options. I have
>> >> Quick
>> >> | > >Time in
>> >> | > > Add/Remove programs. I went to Chase to transfer some money to
>> >> my
>> >> son
>> >> and
>> >> | > > another
>> >> | > > popup occurred saying: "Quick Time has install the following
>> >> (long
>> >> list)
>> >> | > > of
>> >> | > > components to your system, do you want them to access the
>> >> internet."
>> >> Why
>> >> | > > would I want
>> >> | > > them to access the internet and change my Internet Explorer
>> >> while I
>> >> am
>> >> | > > trying to do
>> >> | > > banking??? When I said 'no' , I was unable to continue. I would
>> >> like
>> >> to
>> >> | > > uninstall
>> >> | > > both of them. (I only have uninstall for QT) and I don't know
>> >> what
>> >> QT32
>> >> | > > is!!! A
>> >> | > > little hint please. I am going to try again to get into my bank.
>> >> Ginny
>> >> | > >
>> >> | > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> >> | > > news:utbNAQRwIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> | > >> Don't be. It's not your fault MEB got up on the wrong side of
>> >> the
>> >> bed
>> >> | > >> this
>> >> | > >> morning and/or is otherwise distracted, or so it seems. Though
>> >> I
>> >> must
>> >> say
>> >> | > >> it's interesting to see his true colors when it comes to his
>> >> feelings
>> >> | > >> about
>> >> | > >> XP.
>> >> | > >>
>> >> | > >> --
>> >> | > >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> | > >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> | > >> www.grystmill.com
>> >> | > >>
>> >> | > >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> | > >> news:483dd8cc$1$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> | > >> > Sorry I asked!!! Ginny
>> >> | > >> >
>> >> | > >> >
>> >> | > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> >> | > >> > news:OtdhcSQwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> | > >> >> I've simply been answering your questions. You're the one
>> >> acting
>> >> | > >> >> strangely
>> >> | > >> >> today. And you most certainly did make a judgment and
>> >> recommendations
>> >> | > >> >> about
>> >> | > >> >> what was installed without finding out the facts first, such
>> >> as
>> >> what
>> >> | > >> >> was
>> >> | > >> >> really installed. That's what I called you on.
>> >> | > >> >>
>> >> | > >> >> No, I'd say you are the one on a tear, today. Note your
>> >> full-frontal
>> >> | > >> >> assault
>> >> | > >> >> on me in the other sub-thread on this topic.
>> >> | > >> >>
>> >> | > >> >> --
>> >> | > >> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> | > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> | > >> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >> | > >> >>
>> >> | > >> >>
>> >> | > >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> | > >> >> news:Ocmk67OwIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> | > >> >> > I didn't make a judgement, its what we generally do,
>> >> double
>> >> check
>> >> | > >> >> > each
>> >> | > >> >> > other...
>> >> | > >> >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > And you're right, one does remove the actual entries and
>> >> files
>> >> if
>> >> | > >> >> > possible.
>> >> | > >> >> > But MSCONFIG is your normal choice to use for these
>> >> things,
>> >> for
>> >> | > >> >> > testing
>> >> | > >> >> > purposes. I USE autoruns or other tools... and I DID
>> >> mention
>> >> AOL
>> >> as
>> >> | > >> >> > being
>> >> | > >> >> > a
>> >> | > >> >> > possible issue...
>> >> | > >> >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > Forget it Gary, seems I've touched a nerve today...
>> >> | > >> >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > --
>> >> | > >> >> > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>> >> | > >> >> > --
>> >> | > >> >> > _________
>> >> | > >> >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> >> | > >> >> > news:OpJp60OwIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> | > >> >> > | What gets me is that you would assume that some old
>> >> version
>> >> of
>> >> QT
>> >> | > >> >> > was
>> >> | > >> >> > | installed and never updated. That you didn't take into
>> >> account
>> >> the
>> >> | > >> >> > | possibility that it is an updated version or that the
>> >> tray
>> >> stub
>> >> | > >> >> > had
>> >> | > >> >> > been
>> >> | > >> >> > | disabled as is (or at least was) so often recommended in
>> >> this
>> >> | > >> >> > group.
>> >> | > >> >> > (Same
>> >> | > >> >> > | for RP and any number of other such nuisances.) You
>> >> failed
>> >> in
>> >> | > >> >> > something
>> >> | > >> >> > you
>> >> | > >> >> > | usually do so well -- finding out the whole story before
>> >> making
>> >> | > >> >> > any
>> >> | > >> >> > | judgments and issuing advice.
>> >> | > >> >> > |
>> >> | > >> >> > | --
>> >> | > >> >> > | Gary S. Terhune
>> >> | > >> >> > | MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> | > >> >> > | www.grystmill.com
>> >> | > >> >> > |
>> >> | > >> >> > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> | > >> >> > | news:Oc4KUjOwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> | > >> >> > | > So right, you check for the loader/tray stub with
>> >> MSCONFIG,
>> >> and
>> >> | > >> >> > disabled
>> >> | > >> >> > | > it
>> >> | > >> >> > | > if its not presently part of a current AOL ISP
>> >> package.
>> >> If
>> >> it
>> >> | > >> >> > is,
>> >> | > >> >> > then
>> >> | > >> >> > a
>> >> | > >> >> > | > different course might be needed
>> >> | > >> >> > | > Same for Real Player.
>> >> | > >> >> > | >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > Also disable Check for Updates..
>> >> | > >> >> > | >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > --
>> >> | > >> >> > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>> >> | > >> >> > | > --
>> >> | > >> >> > | > _________
>> >> | > >> >> > | >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> >> | > >> >> > | > news:OqfkOdOwIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | Correct me if I'm wrong, but IME it only nags if you
>> >> leave
>> >> | > >> >> > that
>> >> | > >> >> > thing
>> >> | > >> >> > in
>> >> | > >> >> > | > the
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | tray. We removed it.
>> >> | > >> >> > | > |
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | --
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | Gary S. Terhune
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | www.grystmill.com
>> >> | > >> >> > | > |
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | news:483d7e53$0$11627$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | > Could someone please tell me what Quick Time is?
>> >> Sygate
>> >> says
>> >> | > >> >> > it
>> >> | > >> >> > was
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | > critical that I
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | > had approved a whole bunch of new dlls for Quick
>> >> Time,
>> >> and I
>> >> | > >> >> > don't
>> >> | > >> >> > | > even
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | > remember what
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | > it is. Ginny
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | > "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | > news:483d706f$0$11621$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> Good morning. Since I installed Sygate, every
>> >> time I
>> >> go
>> >> to
>> >> | > >> >> > one
>> >> | > >> >> > of
>> >> | > >> >> > my
>> >> | > >> >> > | > OE
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> accounts,
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | > or
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> a IE page it wants to install new dlls or it
>> >> won't
>> >> let
>> >> me
>> >> | > >> >> > go
>> >> | > >> >> > there.
>> >> | > >> >> > I
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> will try to
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> stop Sygate and see what happens. Is this a
>> >> normal
>> >> thing
>> >> | > >> >> > since
>> >> | > >> >> > I
>> >> | > >> >> > used
>> >> | > >> >> > | > the
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> IE6sp1
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> installer? Should I allow all these dlls (much
>> >> more
>> >> than I
>> >> | > >> >> > posted
>> >> | > >> >> > | > last
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> night.
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> So in summary, my computer works but only if I
>> >> let
>> >> it
>> >> | > >> >> > add a
>> >> | > >> >> > LOT
>> >> | > >> >> > of
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> dlls.
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | > Ginny
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >>
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> news:483d0f58$0$25057$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > I repaired the C.A.spam blocker instead of
>> >> removing
>> >> it. I
>> >> | > >> >> > | > downloaded
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | > Sygate5.5.2577
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > as 5.6.2808 doesn't support Win 98se.
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > After installation it said IE was loading a new
>> >> dll
>> >> for
>> >> | > >> >> > Avast,
>> >> | > >> >> > so
>> >> | > >> >> > I
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > said o.k. but
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | > I
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > didn't write it down.
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Then it said IE is loading new
>> >> dll.....C:\WINDOWS\System
>> >> | > >> >> > | > MFC42LOC.DLL
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > FILE VERSION: 6.002800.1106
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > FILE I.E.
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > PROCESS ID FF872F29
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (heximal)4287049513 (decimal)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > TCP t
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (This happened when I opened Internet Explorer)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Then when I opened Outlook Express Mail I got
>> >> this
>> >> :
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > A new DLL has been loaded to Outlook Express.
>> >> This
>> >> is
>> >> | > >> >> > common
>> >> | > >> >> > if
>> >> | > >> >> > you
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > have updated
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> O.E.
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > lately. (because of firewall)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > The new DLLs have been loaded:
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT
>> >> | > >> >> > SHARED\PROOF\MSSPELL3.DLL
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the
>> >> security
>> >> tab
>> >> | > >> >> > under
>> >> | > >> >> > the
>> >> | > >> >> > | > Tools,
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Options
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> menu.
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Version :
>> >> 6.00.2800.1123
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Description : Outlook
>> >> Express
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Path :
>> >> C:\Program
>> >> | > >> >> > Files\Outlook
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | > Express\msimn.exe
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Process ID :
>> >> 0xFFF8E2D5
>> >> | > >> >> > (Heximal)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > 4294501077
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (Decimal)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Connection origin : local initiated
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol : TCP
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Local Port : 1094
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Name :
>> >> mail.optonline.net
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Address : 167.206.5.250
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Port : 25 (SMTP -
>> >> Simple
>> >> | > >> >> > Mail
>> >> | > >> >> > Transfer
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet packet details:
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination:
>> >> 00-30-bd-20-ef-95
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source:
>> >> 00-04-75-ad-62-4d
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Type: IP (0x0800)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Internet Protocol
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Version: 4
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header Length: 20 bytes
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .1.. = Don't
>> >> fragment:
>> >> | > >> >> > Set
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. = More
>> >> fragments:
>> >> | > >> >> > Not
>> >> | > >> >> > set
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Fragment offset:0
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Time to live: 128
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP -
>> >> Transmission
>> >> Control
>> >> | > >> >> > Protocol)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header checksum: 0x5018
>> >> (Correct)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source: 192.168.2.3
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination: 167.206.5.250
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source port: 1094
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination port: 25
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Sequence number: 2040560
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Acknowledgment number: 0
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header length: 28
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0... .... =
>> >> Congestion
>> >> | > >> >> > Window
>> >> | > >> >> > | > Reduce
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (CWR): Not
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | > set
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .0.. .... =
>> >> ECN-Echo:
>> >> Not
>> >> | > >> >> > set
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. .... =
>> >> Urgent:
>> >> Not
>> >> | > >> >> > set
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ...0 .... =
>> >> | > >> >> > Acknowledgment:
>> >> | > >> >> > Not
>> >> | > >> >> > set
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... 0... =
>> >> Push:
>> >> Not
>> >> set
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... .0.. =
>> >> Reset:
>> >> Not
>> >> | > >> >> > set
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... ..1. =
>> >> Syn:
>> >> Set
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... ...0 =
>> >> Fin:
>> >> Not
>> >> set
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Checksum: 0x45cb (Correct)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Data (0 Bytes)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Binary dump of the packet:
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08
>> >> 00
>> >> 45
>> >> 00
>> >> | > >> >> > |
>> >> | > >> >> > .0.
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ....u.bM..E.
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0010: 00 30 72 04 40 00 80 06 : 18 50 C0 A8 02
>> >> 03
>> >> A7
>> >> CE
>> >> | > >> >> > |
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .0r.@....P......
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0020: 05 FA 04 46 00 19 00 1F : 22 F0 00 00 00
>> >> 00
>> >> 70
>> >> 02
>> >> | > >> >> > |
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ...F....".....p.
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0030: 20 00 CB 45 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04
>> >> 02
>> >> C5
>> >> CE
>> >> | > >> >> > |
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ..E............
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >>
>> >> | > >> >> > | > |
>> >> | > >> >> > |
>> >> | > >> >>
>> >> >>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> -
>> >> | > >> >> > -
>> >> | > >> >> > | > ----------
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> --
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >>
>> >> | > >> >> > | > |
>> >> | > >> >> > |
>> >> | > >> >>
>> >> >>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> -
>> >> | > >> >> > -
>> >> | > >> >> > | > ----------
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> --
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > -----
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Then when I opened the newsgroup I got this:
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Outlook Express has added 2 dll files
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > The new DLLs have been loaded:
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT
>> >> | > >> >> > | > SHARED\TEXTCONV\MSCONV97.DLL
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT
>> >> | > >> >> > SHARED\TEXTCONV\HTML32.CNV
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > To disable DLL Authentication go to the
>> >> security
>> >> tab
>> >> | > >> >> > under
>> >> | > >> >> > the
>> >> | > >> >> > | > Tools,
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Options
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | > menu.
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Version :
>> >> 6.00.2800.1123
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Description : Outlook
>> >> Express
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > File Path :
>> >> C:\Program
>> >> | > >> >> > Files\Outlook
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | > Express\msimn.exe
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Process ID :
>> >> 0xFFF8E2D5
>> >> | > >> >> > (Heximal)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > 4294501077
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (Decimal)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Connection origin : local initiated
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol : TCP
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Local Address : 192.168.2.3
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Local Port : 1101
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Name :
>> >> news.optonline.net
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Address : 209.197.15.254
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Remote Port : 119 (NNTP -
>> >> Network
>> >> | > >> >> > News
>> >> | > >> >> > | > Transfer
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet packet details:
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Ethernet II (Packet Length: 64)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination:
>> >> 00-30-bd-20-ef-95
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source:
>> >> 00-04-75-ad-62-4d
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Type: IP (0x0800)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Internet Protocol
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Version: 4
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header Length: 20 bytes
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .1.. = Don't
>> >> fragment:
>> >> | > >> >> > Set
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. = More
>> >> fragments:
>> >> | > >> >> > Not
>> >> | > >> >> > set
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Fragment offset:0
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Time to live: 128
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Protocol: 0x6 (TCP -
>> >> Transmission
>> >> Control
>> >> | > >> >> > Protocol)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header checksum: 0x5499
>> >> (Correct)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source: 192.168.2.3
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination: 209.197.15.254
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Source port: 1101
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Destination port: 119
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Sequence number: 2582083
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Acknowledgment number: 0
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Header length: 28
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Flags:
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0... .... =
>> >> Congestion
>> >> | > >> >> > Window
>> >> | > >> >> > | > Reduce
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > (CWR): Not
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | > set
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .0.. .... =
>> >> ECN-Echo:
>> >> Not
>> >> | > >> >> > set
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ..0. .... =
>> >> Urgent:
>> >> Not
>> >> | > >> >> > set
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ...0 .... =
>> >> | > >> >> > Acknowledgment:
>> >> | > >> >> > Not
>> >> | > >> >> > set
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... 0... =
>> >> Push:
>> >> Not
>> >> set
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... .0.. =
>> >> Reset:
>> >> Not
>> >> | > >> >> > set
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... ..1. =
>> >> Syn:
>> >> Set
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .... ...0 =
>> >> Fin:
>> >> Not
>> >> set
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Checksum: 0x8a53 (Correct)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Data (0 Bytes)
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > Binary dump of the packet:
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0000: 00 30 BD 20 EF 95 00 04 : 75 AD 62 4D 08
>> >> 00
>> >> 45
>> >> 00
>> >> | > >> >> > |
>> >> | > >> >> > .0.
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ....u.bM..E.
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0010: 00 30 BD 04 40 00 80 06 : 99 54 C0 A8 02
>> >> 03
>> >> D1
>> >> C5
>> >> | > >> >> > |
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .0..@....T......
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
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>> >> 00
>> >> 70
>> >> 02
>> >> | > >> >> > |
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > ...M.w.'fC....p.
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > 0030: 20 00 53 8A 00 00 02 04 : 05 AC 01 01 04
>> >> 02
>> >> 6F
>> >> 2F
>> >> | > >> >> > |
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> > .S...........
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >> >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >>
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >>
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > | >
>> >> | > >> >> > | > |
>> >> | > >> >> > | >
>> >> | > >> >> > | >
>> >> | > >> >> > |
>> >> | > >> >> >
>> >> | > >> >> >
>> >> | > >> >>
>> >> | > >> >
>> >> | > >> >
>> >> | > >>
>> >> | > >
>> >> | > >
>> >> | >
>> >> |
>> >> |
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

 

[Bill in Co.]

Re: What is Quick Time

I do know that QT version 5 at least works on Win98SE. I stopped there,
as I started getting tired of the bloat (as is so often the case) with the
newer versions.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> Leave it for now. I'll have you a full answer tomorrow if I can. What
> you've
> probably got is the same ancient, dangerous, version that MEB was
> complaining about. We need to find the latest version that will still run
> on
> 9x. I'm may have it, but I'm in the middle of rebuilding my 98 box so I
> can't test and make sure, know how to instruct you in its installation,
> etc.
>
> (Actually, I coulda sworn I found v.6 on the QT site and that it works
> with
> Win98, but I guess I'll have to go through my History to find it. Assuming
> I
> don't already have it. Latest version I could find quickly was one I
> downloaded in late '05.)
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:483e4acf$0$25060$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> I googled one of the missing Quick Time files QT32INST.EXE downloaded it
>> and ran it
>> and it repaired Quick Time. It even installed the QTW32DEL.EXE that was
>> missing. Now
>> I have both of the Quick Time logos QT & QT32 in my add/remove programs
>> and in
>> Control Panel. I don't believe the QT one works but my movies are playing
>> well,
>> automatically with the Quick Time 32. So I am leaving it alone as I am
>> sure there are
>> shared files. Unless anyone has any ideas as to how to get rid of it
>> without hurting
>> Quick Time 32.
>>
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:uPfCyEUwIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> I need YOU to be more patient. And to stop posting wherever you feel
>>> like
>>> it. I know this is a long and multi-threaded issue, but it's your
>>> responsibility to find the proper thread and post to respond to. If you
>>> think it's missing, then at least go back to the top of this thread ("IE
>>> works so far", not "What is Quick Time") to post your "I'm lost" post.
>>> While
>>> this was intended to be a wrap-up thread for the original issue, you're
>>> now
>>> tacking new issues onto it, like this whole Sygate/QT thread. No need to
>>> further muck up the works by adding more to this sub-thread.
>>>
>>> So be patient, I have had to answer lots of posts today and some in
>>> depth,
>>> and I've done a lot of research on your part and on the part of others.
>>> I
>>> also had to rebuild my 98 machine, eat, etc., etc. And because you
>>> posted
>>> these MSXML questions here instead of where they belong, *I* have to go
>>> searching for wherever in this mess the posts regarding MSXML update,
>>> etc.,
>>> is located. I'll post/repost there and answer your question(s) there.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>
>>>
>>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:483e2660$0$25036$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>> I need you to read my most recent postings.
>>>> !. I am confused about the MSXML4sp2 updated and what to delete. I need
>>>> it
>>>> explained more clearly, please.
>>>> 2. Quick Time doesn't have an uninstaller. When I hit add/remove
>>>> programs
>>>> it
>>>> said it was uninstalling my Camedia (the program I attach my digital
>>>> camera
>>>> to the computer...that was o.k.
>>>> But, there is nothing that says uninstall quick Time, It only gives the
>>>> option to remove extensions. (in add/remove programs) and it says that
>>>> I
>>>> shouldn't do that.
>>>> In Internet Options when I click it. It tells me that I should
>>>> uninstall
>>>> and
>>>> install again as I am missing 2 exe files.
>>>> If I put the CD in the drive....will that give me an option to
>>>> uninstall?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gary S. Terhune" <none>
>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:21 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: IE Running well so far
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Then you DO have that very old version MEB was talking about. You
>>>>> should
>>>>> uninstall it, then hope your banking site doesn't require it. Might
>>>>> just
>>>>> look different but still work. (I thought I had a link to the last
>>>>> version
>>>>> that worked with Win98, but I'll have to look deeper.)
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:483e04fb$0$15193$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>>>> Sorry, Gary I got side tracked trying to get online again. I will
>>>>>> uninstall that
>>>>>> update(4.0sdk).
>>>>>> The 2 Q Times are in Internet Options- Control Panel. Q time says if
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> uninstall it I
>>>>>> will uninstall the program it came with. I haven't the slightest
>>>>>> idea
>>>> what
>>>>>> it came
>>>>>> with . It is not in any of my Programs under Start. Further
>>>>>> investigation
>>>>>> shows that
>>>>>> the version is 2.1.2.59 (Quick Time for Windows) It says it is for
>>>>>> Window 95 and is missing QT32INST.EXE AND QTW32EEL.EXE....which is
>>>>>> why
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> can't open
>>>>>> it. It says I should uninstall and reinstall but I don't know what
>>>>>> CD
>>>> it
>>>>>> would be on
>>>>>> to re-install.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will uninstall the 4.0sp1 now, after I make sure I can get online.
>>>>>> Gin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:u44BNBOwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> You still have MSXML 4.0 SP1. Here's some updates you might want to
>>>>>>> consider:
>>>>>>> First, uninstall that Update we installed that includes the SDK. If
>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>> not sure which one, write down any entry that includes MSXML and
>>>>>>> post
>>>> it
>>>>>>> here. After uninstalling that, then get:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MSXML 4.0 Service Pack 2 http://tinyurl.com/59qer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> then this patch:
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/y6a2sl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:483cf7f0$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>>>>>> All three are version 4.10.9404.0 and they were all created
>>>>>>>> 2/4/02.
>>>>>>>> msxml4.dll is 80.5 KB, msxml4r.dll is 1.17 MB, msxml4a.dll is
>>>>>>>> 43.5
>>>> KB.
>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:483e234b$0$25024$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>>> One of my posts has 'gone missing' and I'm sitting here unclear about
>>>>> how
>>>>> to do
>>>> this
>>>>> service patch . I downloaded msxml4-KB927978-enu.exe (file version
>>>>> 1)....., (I
>>>> typed
>>>>> in tinyurl.com/y6a2sl and it redirected me to this MSXML 4.0 Service
>>>>> Pack2
>>>>> (Microsoft XML Core Services) - I think that is what I downloaded. Is
>>>>> that the
>>>> first
>>>>> one or the second one??
>>>>> Also....What am I supposed to post here and uninstall from my
>>>>> system???
>>>>> I am
>>>>> confused. Thanks. Gin
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eVflMSTwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Sygate uses a database that started out blank. *Everything* you do
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> while will be a "change" to Sygate. If it's a program you recognize,
>>>>>> then,
>>>>>> short of doing a lot more research, you have no choice but to trust
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> it's not a malware DLL in disguise, and approve the update to
>>>>>> Sygate's
>>>>>> database. Once you've finished training it, then when it says
>>>>>> "change"
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> will almost always actually mean "change". Then you are expected to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> able
>>>>>> to remember recent changes to your system and update Sygate
>>>>>> appropriately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it's a question you have about the program that is being cited,
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> did with QT, then you do as you did: ask about it, do some research.
>>>>>> But try
>>>>>> to refrain from acting on our advice, or even stuff you read
>>>>>> elsewhere
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> Google, etc., too quickly, not even mine, in case there's an
>>>>>> important
>>>>>> (or
>>>>>> even minor) correction, contradiction or addendum to that advice in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> near
>>>>>> future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In this case, besides just what QT stands for, you should have
>>>>>> learned
>>>>>> enough in this thread to ask yourself, "Just how old IS that
>>>>>> QuickTime
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> mine, anyway?" and "Maybe I should uninstall it and then install the
>>>>>> latest
>>>>>> version if I find I need it later." So, in a way, Sygate is teaching
>>>>>> you,
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:483df8c8$0$25052$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>>>>> I don't mind training something. I simply dont know if it is o.k.
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> allow
>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>> program to add new .dlls to my Internet Explorer and Outlook
>>>>>>> Express. If
>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>> harmless, I will simply say yes. and go about my business. But it
>>>>>>> seems to
>>>>>>> me we
>>>>>>> spent an awful lot of time getting rid of .dlls that didn't belong
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> putting in
>>>>>>> .dlls that had disappeared. My question was simple. Do I allow my
>>>>>>> Internet
>>>>>>> Explorer
>>>>>>> and Outlook Express to be changed by my programs.
>>>>>>> It doesn't say that Sygate is changing anything. It is Sygate
>>>>>>> reporting to
>>>>>>> me that
>>>>>>> these programs are changing my IE & OE. I assumed that before
>>>>>>> Sygate,
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> programs
>>>>>>> were doing this but I just didn't know. Am I making any sense?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:%239wnV0RwIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> My guess is that the page you went to includes items that are
>>>>>>>> viewed
>>>>>>>> using a
>>>>>>>> QT plugin. What you describe (QT and QT32) sound like plugins and
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> just different versions of the same thing (16-bit and 32-bit),
>>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> the same installer. Where are these things listed in Internet
>>>>>>>> Options? On
>>>>>>>> what tab, under what button? (Sorry, I can't check against my
>>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>>> as I
>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>> in the process of rebuilding it.) Anyway, if it bugs you, just
>>>>>>>> uninstall
>>>>>>>> QT
>>>>>>>> in Add/Remove Programs and see what happens. You can always go
>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> reinstall it if you discover you need it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But your biggest problem is that you can't stand having to train
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> firewall. If you aren't willing to go through that process,
>>>>>>>> uninstall it
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> either use something else or nothing at all. You already have
>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>> decent
>>>>>>>> protection against intrusion. Believe me, that firewall isn't
>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>> bugging
>>>>>>>> you, not by a LONG shot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:483de66d$0$11610$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>>>>>>> I have Quick Time and Quick Time32 in my Internet Options. I
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> Quick
>>>>>>>>> Time in
>>>>>>>>> Add/Remove programs. I went to Chase to transfer some money to
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> son
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>> popup occurred saying: "Quick Time has install the following
>>>>>>>>> (long
>>>>>>>>> list)
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> components to your system, do you want them to access the
>>>>>>>>> internet."
>>>>>>>>> Why
>>>>>>>>> would I want
>>>>>>>>> them to access the internet and change my Internet Explorer
>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>> I am
>>>>>>>>> trying to do
>>>>>>>>> banking??? When I said 'no' , I was unable to continue. I would
>>>>>>>>> like to
>>>>>>>>> uninstall
>>>>>>>>> both of them. (I only have uninstall for QT) and I don't know
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> QT32
>>>>>>>>> is!!! A
>>>>>>>>> little hint please. I am going to try again to get into my
>>>>>>>>> bank.
>>>>>>>>> Ginny
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:utbNAQRwIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Don't be. It's not your fault MEB got up on the wrong side of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> bed
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> morning and/or is otherwise distracted, or so it seems. Though
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>>>>> it's interesting to see his true colors when it comes to his
>>>>>>>>>> feelings
>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> XP.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:483dd8cc$1$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I asked!!! Ginny

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Re: What is Quick Time

Decided to run the latest installer I have to see if it tells you up front
what version... There it was in huge letters. 6.5.1. And it was released
prior to December '04, not '05. Another of my many brain farts today. What
IS strange is that I have no versions prior to that in the places I'd expect
to find them. I'm a true packrat when it comes to that kind of stuff. Gotta
be earlier versions here, somewhere. Ahh, here we go. Versions 4 & 5... All
I'm missing is 3 and I just didn't feel like waiting for Search to complete
inspection of my vast ZIPped archives, my backups of backups, etc.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:u0r7OqVwIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I do know that QT version 5 at least works on Win98SE. I stopped there,
>as I started getting tired of the bloat (as is so often the case) with the
>newer versions.
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> Leave it for now. I'll have you a full answer tomorrow if I can. What
>> you've
>> probably got is the same ancient, dangerous, version that MEB was
>> complaining about. We need to find the latest version that will still run
>> on
>> 9x. I'm may have it, but I'm in the middle of rebuilding my 98 box so I
>> can't test and make sure, know how to instruct you in its installation,
>> etc.
>>
>> (Actually, I coulda sworn I found v.6 on the QT site and that it works
>> with
>> Win98, but I guess I'll have to go through my History to find it.
>> Assuming I
>> don't already have it. Latest version I could find quickly was one I
>> downloaded in late '05.)
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:483e4acf$0$25060$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>> I googled one of the missing Quick Time files QT32INST.EXE downloaded it
>>> and ran it
>>> and it repaired Quick Time. It even installed the QTW32DEL.EXE that was
>>> missing. Now
>>> I have both of the Quick Time logos QT & QT32 in my add/remove programs
>>> and in
>>> Control Panel. I don't believe the QT one works but my movies are
>>> playing
>>> well,
>>> automatically with the Quick Time 32. So I am leaving it alone as I am
>>> sure there are
>>> shared files. Unless anyone has any ideas as to how to get rid of it
>>> without hurting
>>> Quick Time 32.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>> news:uPfCyEUwIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> I need YOU to be more patient. And to stop posting wherever you feel
>>>> like
>>>> it. I know this is a long and multi-threaded issue, but it's your
>>>> responsibility to find the proper thread and post to respond to. If you
>>>> think it's missing, then at least go back to the top of this thread
>>>> ("IE
>>>> works so far", not "What is Quick Time") to post your "I'm lost" post.
>>>> While
>>>> this was intended to be a wrap-up thread for the original issue, you're
>>>> now
>>>> tacking new issues onto it, like this whole Sygate/QT thread. No need
>>>> to
>>>> further muck up the works by adding more to this sub-thread.
>>>>
>>>> So be patient, I have had to answer lots of posts today and some in
>>>> depth,
>>>> and I've done a lot of research on your part and on the part of others.
>>>> I
>>>> also had to rebuild my 98 machine, eat, etc., etc. And because you
>>>> posted
>>>> these MSXML questions here instead of where they belong, *I* have to go
>>>> searching for wherever in this mess the posts regarding MSXML update,
>>>> etc.,
>>>> is located. I'll post/repost there and answer your question(s) there.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:483e2660$0$25036$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>>> I need you to read my most recent postings.
>>>>> !. I am confused about the MSXML4sp2 updated and what to delete. I
>>>>> need
>>>>> it
>>>>> explained more clearly, please.
>>>>> 2. Quick Time doesn't have an uninstaller. When I hit add/remove
>>>>> programs
>>>>> it
>>>>> said it was uninstalling my Camedia (the program I attach my digital
>>>>> camera
>>>>> to the computer...that was o.k.
>>>>> But, there is nothing that says uninstall quick Time, It only gives
>>>>> the
>>>>> option to remove extensions. (in add/remove programs) and it says that
>>>>> I
>>>>> shouldn't do that.
>>>>> In Internet Options when I click it. It tells me that I should
>>>>> uninstall
>>>>> and
>>>>> install again as I am missing 2 exe files.
>>>>> If I put the CD in the drive....will that give me an option to
>>>>> uninstall?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Gary S. Terhune" <none>
>>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:21 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: IE Running well so far
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Then you DO have that very old version MEB was talking about. You
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> uninstall it, then hope your banking site doesn't require it. Might
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> look different but still work. (I thought I had a link to the last
>>>>>> version
>>>>>> that worked with Win98, but I'll have to look deeper.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:483e04fb$0$15193$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>>>>> Sorry, Gary I got side tracked trying to get online again. I will
>>>>>>> uninstall that
>>>>>>> update(4.0sdk).
>>>>>>> The 2 Q Times are in Internet Options- Control Panel. Q time says if
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> uninstall it I
>>>>>>> will uninstall the program it came with. I haven't the slightest
>>>>>>> idea
>>>>> what
>>>>>>> it came
>>>>>>> with . It is not in any of my Programs under Start. Further
>>>>>>> investigation
>>>>>>> shows that
>>>>>>> the version is 2.1.2.59 (Quick Time for Windows) It says it is for
>>>>>>> Window 95 and is missing QT32INST.EXE AND QTW32EEL.EXE....which is
>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> can't open
>>>>>>> it. It says I should uninstall and reinstall but I don't know what
>>>>>>> CD
>>>>> it
>>>>>>> would be on
>>>>>>> to re-install.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will uninstall the 4.0sp1 now, after I make sure I can get online.
>>>>>>> Gin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:u44BNBOwIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> You still have MSXML 4.0 SP1. Here's some updates you might want to
>>>>>>>> consider:
>>>>>>>> First, uninstall that Update we installed that includes the SDK. If
>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>> not sure which one, write down any entry that includes MSXML and
>>>>>>>> post
>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> here. After uninstalling that, then get:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> MSXML 4.0 Service Pack 2 http://tinyurl.com/59qer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> then this patch:
>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/y6a2sl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:483cf7f0$0$15192$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>>>>>>> All three are version 4.10.9404.0 and they were all created
>>>>>>>>> 2/4/02.
>>>>>>>>> msxml4.dll is 80.5 KB, msxml4r.dll is 1.17 MB, msxml4a.dll is
>>>>>>>>> 43.5
>>>>> KB.
>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:483e234b$0$25024$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>>>> One of my posts has 'gone missing' and I'm sitting here unclear about
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> to do
>>>>> this
>>>>>> service patch . I downloaded msxml4-KB927978-enu.exe (file version
>>>>>> 1)....., (I
>>>>> typed
>>>>>> in tinyurl.com/y6a2sl and it redirected me to this MSXML 4.0 Service
>>>>>> Pack2
>>>>>> (Microsoft XML Core Services) - I think that is what I downloaded. Is
>>>>>> that the
>>>>> first
>>>>>> one or the second one??
>>>>>> Also....What am I supposed to post here and uninstall from my
>>>>>> system???
>>>>>> I am
>>>>>> confused. Thanks. Gin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eVflMSTwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Sygate uses a database that started out blank. *Everything* you do
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> while will be a "change" to Sygate. If it's a program you recognize,
>>>>>>> then,
>>>>>>> short of doing a lot more research, you have no choice but to trust
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> it's not a malware DLL in disguise, and approve the update to
>>>>>>> Sygate's
>>>>>>> database. Once you've finished training it, then when it says
>>>>>>> "change"
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> will almost always actually mean "change". Then you are expected to
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>> to remember recent changes to your system and update Sygate
>>>>>>> appropriately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it's a question you have about the program that is being cited,
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> did with QT, then you do as you did: ask about it, do some research.
>>>>>>> But try
>>>>>>> to refrain from acting on our advice, or even stuff you read
>>>>>>> elsewhere
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> Google, etc., too quickly, not even mine, in case there's an
>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>> even minor) correction, contradiction or addendum to that advice in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> near
>>>>>>> future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In this case, besides just what QT stands for, you should have
>>>>>>> learned
>>>>>>> enough in this thread to ask yourself, "Just how old IS that
>>>>>>> QuickTime
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> mine, anyway?" and "Maybe I should uninstall it and then install the
>>>>>>> latest
>>>>>>> version if I find I need it later." So, in a way, Sygate is teaching
>>>>>>> you,
>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:483df8c8$0$25052$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>>>>>> I don't mind training something. I simply dont know if it is o.k.
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> allow
>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>> program to add new .dlls to my Internet Explorer and Outlook
>>>>>>>> Express. If
>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>> harmless, I will simply say yes. and go about my business. But it
>>>>>>>> seems to
>>>>>>>> me we
>>>>>>>> spent an awful lot of time getting rid of .dlls that didn't belong
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> putting in
>>>>>>>> .dlls that had disappeared. My question was simple. Do I allow my
>>>>>>>> Internet
>>>>>>>> Explorer
>>>>>>>> and Outlook Express to be changed by my programs.
>>>>>>>> It doesn't say that Sygate is changing anything. It is Sygate
>>>>>>>> reporting to
>>>>>>>> me that
>>>>>>>> these programs are changing my IE & OE. I assumed that before
>>>>>>>> Sygate,
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> programs
>>>>>>>> were doing this but I just didn't know. Am I making any sense?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:%239wnV0RwIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> My guess is that the page you went to includes items that are
>>>>>>>>> viewed
>>>>>>>>> using a
>>>>>>>>> QT plugin. What you describe (QT and QT32) sound like plugins and
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> just different versions of the same thing (16-bit and 32-bit),
>>>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>> the same installer. Where are these things listed in Internet
>>>>>>>>> Options? On
>>>>>>>>> what tab, under what button? (Sorry, I can't check against my
>>>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>>>> as I
>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>> in the process of rebuilding it.) Anyway, if it bugs you, just
>>>>>>>>> uninstall
>>>>>>>>> QT
>>>>>>>>> in Add/Remove Programs and see what happens. You can always go
>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> reinstall it if you discover you need it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But your biggest problem is that you can't stand having to train
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> firewall. If you aren't willing to go through that process,
>>>>>>>>> uninstall it
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> either use something else or nothing at all. You already have
>>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>>> decent
>>>>>>>>> protection against intrusion. Believe me, that firewall isn't
>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>> bugging
>>>>>>>>> you, not by a LONG shot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:483de66d$0$11610$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>>>>>>>> I have Quick Time and Quick Time32 in my Internet Options. I
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> Quick
>>>>>>>>>> Time in
>>>>>>>>>> Add/Remove programs. I went to Chase to transfer some money to
>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>> son
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>> popup occurred saying: "Quick Time has install the following
>>>>>>>>>> (long
>>>>>>>>>> list)
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> components to your system, do you want them to access the
>>>>>>>>>> internet."
>>>>>>>>>> Why
>>>>>>>>>> would I want
>>>>>>>>>> them to access the internet and change my Internet Explorer
>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>> I am
>>>>>>>>>> trying to do
>>>>>>>>>> banking??? When I said 'no' , I was unable to continue. I would
>>>>>>>>>> like to
>>>>>>>>>> uninstall
>>>>>>>>>> both of them. (I only have uninstall for QT) and I don't know
>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> QT32
>>>>>>>>>> is!!! A
>>>>>>>>>> little hint please. I am going to try again to get into my
>>>>>>>>>> bank.
>>>>>>>>>> Ginny
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:utbNAQRwIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Don't be. It's not your fault MEB got up on the wrong side of
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> bed
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> morning and/or is otherwise distracted, or so it seems. Though
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>>>>>> it's interesting to see his true colors when it comes to his
>>>>>>>>>>> feelings
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:483dd8cc$1$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I asked!!! Ginny
>
>

 

[Angel]

Yes, I already knew that it will take a while for the pain to subside. Even
the pain pills don't work that well. Gary, I am prepared for a long hall,
but you know I do not give up or in easily. You are not pessimistic only
truthful. This is no picnic, if you know what I mean.

My cat is on the footstool I am trying to use. She takes up most of the
footstool. Since I got home, she does not let me out of her sight. I finally
got her to move off the stool. How? I picked her up and put her off. She did
not accept that. I had to do it again. She is stubborn and don't give up
easily neither.

Angel

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:eeK3b$RwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: Sounds like you need someone who can follow instructions and has a good
back
: to get in there and help you rearrange things to your comfort. After all,
: these pains aren't going to go away real soon (sorry to be pessimistic,
but
: I'd rather you got comfy ASAP.)
:
: As for standing on one's head while standing in one's head... I used to do
: that on a regular basis, <bg>.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS-MVP Shell/User
: www.grystmill.com
:
: "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: news:ucwOR8RwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
: > Gary, how would that be possible! "Standing in my head"? I never would
try
: > that! I don't even think I could stand ON my head not alone IN my head!!
: > Have you tried it? HaHaHa!!
: >
: > I do use a foot stool, when I can in front of the computer. My cat and I
: > argue over it. She decided to take it over. I also use the arm of the
: > office
: > chair for my arm, it relieves the shoulder pain some.
: >
: > Angel
: >
: > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > news:e0vC6MRwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > : Knowing Angel the way I do, I think she should try standing in her
head,
: > : <eg>.
: > :
: > : --
: > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : www.grystmill.com
: > :
: > : "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
: > : news:483dd8cc$0$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...
: > : > Angel, If you just put a ottoman or stool with pillow or towel in
: > front
: > of
: > : > you at the
: > : > computer, it can work just as well as above the heart. Of course,
: > laying
: > : > down with
: > : > feet elevated is optimal but no one really expects you to do that.
: > Sorry
: > : > for your
: > : > problems. Ginny R.N.
: > : > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : > news:%23la3KVQwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: > : >> Hi Gary,
: > : >>
: > : >> Doing pretty good. Don't stay on the computer very long at a time.
: > Still
: > : >> trouble with the shoulder not cooperating. The ankle swells up
quite
: > a
: > : >> bit.
: > : >> Supposed to keep the leg elevated above the heart to keep the
: > swelling
: > : >> down,
: > : >> yeah right! Should I stand on my head?
: > : >>
: > : >> When you go to yahoo! mail, you go to Options and follow the
: > directions
: > : >> under Preferences and you get it in text and when you get the mail,
: > you
: > : >> can
: > : >> go to the bottom of the page and hit HTML or at the top of the
email
: > and
: > : >> hit
: > : >> the show images. EASY!
: > : >>
: > : >> Angel
: > : >>
: > : >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : >> news:%23gbu8CHwIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: > : >> : Hi, Angel! How ya doin'? I didn't know that about Yahoo! Mail.
: > : >> :
: > : >> : --
: > : >> : Gary S. Terhune
: > : >> : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : >> : www.grystmill.com
: > : >> :
: > : >> :
: > : >> : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
: > : >> : news:%23IMYJiEwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: > : >> : > Hi all,
: > : >> : > You can also use that method in the yahoo web mail.
: > : >> : > Angel
: > : >> : >
: > : >> : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
: > : >> : > news:OThQZYDwIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: > : >> : > : If you follow proper security habits, including setting email
: > apps
: > : >> to
: > : >> : > only
: > : >> : > : read messages in Plain Text, you never have to worry about
any
: > : >> viruses
: > : >> : > : getting in. Doesn't matter what client you use. If you get a
: > POS
: > : >> HTML
: > : >> : > email
: > : >> : > : that can't be read in PT, and you trust the source, then you
: > can
: > : >> change
: > : >> : > to
: > : >> : > : view in HTML (in OE, anyway.)
: > : >> : > :
: > : >> : > : --
: > : >> : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : >> : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
: > : >> : > : www.grystmill.com
: > : >> : > :
: > : >> : > : <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message
: > : >> : > : news:2ooo34t082va22nc9rv0np3cr5sf9ckjhm@4ax.com...
: > : >> : > : > I should have mentioned that Outlook Express is very poor
: > : >> software
: > : >> : > : > that will allow viruses to infect your computer. I wont
even
: > : >> allow
: > : >> : > : > that POS on my computer. I deleted the entire directory
many
: > : >> years
: > : >> : > : > ago. I'd highly recommend finding another email software
as
: > well
: > : >> as
: > : >> : > : > another usenet software. (some do both, such as the newer
: > : >> versions
: > : >> of
: > : >> : > : > Agent).
: > : >> : > :
: > : >> : >
: > : >> : >
: > : >> :
: > : >>
: > : >>
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: >
: >
:

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

I can send you a poodle or two to chase teh cat. Keep it busy.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
news:uXJrWPZwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Yes, I already knew that it will take a while for the pain to subside.
> Even
> the pain pills don't work that well. Gary, I am prepared for a long hall,
> but you know I do not give up or in easily. You are not pessimistic only
> truthful. This is no picnic, if you know what I mean.
>
> My cat is on the footstool I am trying to use. She takes up most of the
> footstool. Since I got home, she does not let me out of her sight. I
> finally
> got her to move off the stool. How? I picked her up and put her off. She
> did
> not accept that. I had to do it again. She is stubborn and don't give up
> easily neither.
>
> Angel
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:eeK3b$RwIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : Sounds like you need someone who can follow instructions and has a good
> back
> : to get in there and help you rearrange things to your comfort. After
> all,
> : these pains aren't going to go away real soon (sorry to be pessimistic,
> but
> : I'd rather you got comfy ASAP.)
> :
> : As for standing on one's head while standing in one's head... I used to
> do
> : that on a regular basis, <bg>.
> :
> : --
> : Gary S. Terhune
> : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : www.grystmill.com
> :
> : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : news:ucwOR8RwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> : > Gary, how would that be possible! "Standing in my head"? I never would
> try
> : > that! I don't even think I could stand ON my head not alone IN my
> head!!
> : > Have you tried it? HaHaHa!!
> : >
> : > I do use a foot stool, when I can in front of the computer. My cat and
> I
> : > argue over it. She decided to take it over. I also use the arm of the
> : > office
> : > chair for my arm, it relieves the shoulder pain some.
> : >
> : > Angel
> : >
> : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > news:e0vC6MRwIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > : Knowing Angel the way I do, I think she should try standing in her
> head,
> : > : <eg>.
> : > :
> : > : --
> : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > :
> : > : "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
> : > : news:483dd8cc$0$11631$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> : > : > Angel, If you just put a ottoman or stool with pillow or towel in
> : > front
> : > of
> : > : > you at the
> : > : > computer, it can work just as well as above the heart. Of course,
> : > laying
> : > : > down with
> : > : > feet elevated is optimal but no one really expects you to do that.
> : > Sorry
> : > : > for your
> : > : > problems. Ginny R.N.
> : > : > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : > news:%23la3KVQwIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> : > : >> Hi Gary,
> : > : >>
> : > : >> Doing pretty good. Don't stay on the computer very long at a
> time.
> : > Still
> : > : >> trouble with the shoulder not cooperating. The ankle swells up
> quite
> : > a
> : > : >> bit.
> : > : >> Supposed to keep the leg elevated above the heart to keep the
> : > swelling
> : > : >> down,
> : > : >> yeah right! Should I stand on my head?
> : > : >>
> : > : >> When you go to yahoo! mail, you go to Options and follow the
> : > directions
> : > : >> under Preferences and you get it in text and when you get the
> mail,
> : > you
> : > : >> can
> : > : >> go to the bottom of the page and hit HTML or at the top of the
> email
> : > and
> : > : >> hit
> : > : >> the show images. EASY!
> : > : >>
> : > : >> Angel
> : > : >>
> : > : >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : >> news:%23gbu8CHwIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> : > : >> : Hi, Angel! How ya doin'? I didn't know that about Yahoo! Mail.
> : > : >> :
> : > : >> : --
> : > : >> : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : >> : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : >> : www.grystmill.com
> : > : >> :
> : > : >> :
> : > : >> : "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> : > : >> : news:%23IMYJiEwIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> : > : >> : > Hi all,
> : > : >> : > You can also use that method in the yahoo web mail.
> : > : >> : > Angel
> : > : >> : >
> : > : >> : > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> : > : >> : > news:OThQZYDwIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> : > : >> : > : If you follow proper security habits, including setting
> email
> : > apps
> : > : >> to
> : > : >> : > only
> : > : >> : > : read messages in Plain Text, you never have to worry about
> any
> : > : >> viruses
> : > : >> : > : getting in. Doesn't matter what client you use. If you get
> a
> : > POS
> : > : >> HTML
> : > : >> : > email
> : > : >> : > : that can't be read in PT, and you trust the source, then
> you
> : > can
> : > : >> change
> : > : >> : > to
> : > : >> : > : view in HTML (in OE, anyway.)
> : > : >> : > :
> : > : >> : > : --
> : > : >> : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : >> : > : MS-MVP Shell/User
> : > : >> : > : www.grystmill.com
> : > : >> : > :
> : > : >> : > : <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message
> : > : >> : > : news:2ooo34t082va22nc9rv0np3cr5sf9ckjhm@4ax.com...
> : > : >> : > : > I should have mentioned that Outlook Express is very poor
> : > : >> software
> : > : >> : > : > that will allow viruses to infect your computer. I wont
> even
> : > : >> allow
> : > : >> : > : > that POS on my computer. I deleted the entire directory
> many
> : > : >> years
> : > : >> : > : > ago. I'd highly recommend finding another email software
> as
> : > well
> : > : >> as
> : > : >> : > : > another usenet software. (some do both, such as the newer
> : > : >> versions
> : > : >> of
> : > : >> : > : > Agent).
> : > : >> : > :
> : > : >> : >
> : > : >> : >
> : > : >> :
> : > : >>
> : > : >>
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
>
>

 

[MEB]

OH NOOOO, don't assign that one to meeeee, pleeeeeeaaaaassseee.......

But you're right, I will likely need to go back through those old
iuhist.xml and Windows Update.log files and see exactly what was removed..
cross-check for present availability and where to find or if still available
[which many are not], and check to see if they were outdated/superceded.
Maybe,,,, have to see how things go ... of course others could do this as
well..

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:OR8xleVwIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| No, we downloaded it last night or the night before, whenever it was.
|
| As for it's 9x compatibility, all I knew was that it had been installed on
a
| 9x system and that the trail of KB + Security Bulletin led to a link that
| said, "For IESP1, all versions of Windows." And it worked. Makes me want
to
| check a few other supposedly non-9x Updates. Not enough to actually do it,
| but just a little.
|
| Actually, sounds like a job for you, <eg>.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:%234qcxcUwIHA.5448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > 11-23-04 about two months after it was issued/offered, then 02-09-06
four
| > months prior to end.
| >
| > Well, I don't know why it was removed, it isn't like several other
updates
| > that I have large amounts of error reports saved for.
| > Your guess is as good as mine, it obviously wasn't completely superceded
| > or
| > the older outdated update would have been removed as well.
| >
| > However, looking IN the 11-23-04 IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe offering,
| > it
| > has no direct indication of 9X support that was normally included. The
| > INFs
| > are not the usual, yet, as I was doing at that time, it was what I got
| > when
| > re-downloading whatever iuhist showed was installed for future use. Be
| > interesting to see if anyone had the actual original offering. Or was
that
| > what you used?
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
| >
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > news:OmMmxNUwIHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > | "...note the date..." Note what about the date?
| > |
| > | And it just goes to show you how much you can trust any particular
| > write-up
| > | by MS to be complete.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | www.grystmill.com
| > |
| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | news:O%23kHsJUwIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | > Just some further info for those who might be interested.
| > | >
| > | > Though previous 98SE iuhist.xml-s did include the update, here's
| > excerpts
| > | > from the download page I have saved from 02/09/2006 {note the date}:
| > | >
| > | > Download details: Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6
| > Service
| > | > Pack 1 (KB823353)
| > | >
| > | > Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1
| > | > (KB823353)
| > | > This update addresses the vulnerability discussed in Microsoft
| > | > Security Bulletin MS04-018. To find out if other security updates
| > | > are available for you, see the Overview section of this page.
| > | >
| > | > Quick Info
| > | > File Name:IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe
| > | > Download Size:1950 KB
| > | > Date Published:7/14/2004
| > | > Version:OE6
| > | >
| > | > Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6
| > | > Service Pack 1 (KB823353)
| > | > English
| > | >
| > | > Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018
| > | >
| > | > System Requirements
| > | > Supported Operating Systems: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2,
| > | > Windows 2000 Service Pack 3, Windows 2000 Service Pack 4,
| > | > Windows NT, Windows XP, Windows XP Service Pack 1
| > | > This update applies to Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
| > | > with the following operating systems:
| > | >
| > | > Windows XP SP1
| > | > Windows XP
| > | > Windows 2000 SP2
| > | > Windows 2000 SP3
| > | > Windows 2000 SP4
| > | > Windows NT 4.0 SP6A
| > | > ------
| > | >
| > | > The file I have saved with a date of 11/23/04 was also saved with
the
| > | > download page [same date] which reflects the above information.:
| > | > Compare to the below date.
| > | >
| > | > As example of one of the old iuhist containment {the < have been
| > removed}:
| > | >
| > | > itemStatus xmlns="" timestamp="2004-08-03T05:23:24">
| > | > identity
| > | >
| >
itemID="ie60x.internetexplorer6x.ver_platform_win32_windows.4.10.x86.en.....
| > | > .com_microsoft.q823353_oe6_sp1." name="Q823353_OE6_SP1">
| > | > publisherName>com_microsoft</publisherName>
| > | > language>en</language>
| > | > /identity>
| > | > description hidden="0">
| > | > descriptionText>
| > | > title>Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 SP1
| > | > (KB823353)</title>
| > | > eula href="/msdownload/update/v3/static/eula/en/eula.htm"/>
| > | > details href="http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=19527"/>
| > | > /descriptionText>
| > | > /description>
| > | > platform name="ver_platform_win32_windows">
| > | > processorArchitecture>x86</processorArchitecture>
| > | > version major="4" minor="10" build="" servicePackMajor=""
| > | > servicePackMinor=""/>
| > | > /platform>
| > | > <downloadStatus value="COMPLETE"/>
| > | > <downloadPath>c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q823353_OE6_SP1</downloadPath>
| > | > <client>IU_Site</client>
| > | > <installStatus value="COMPLETE" needsReboot="0"/>
| > | > </itemStatus>
| > | >
| > | > {I was wrong it wasn't part of the December update debacle.}
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > --
| > | > _________
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| >
| >
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